View Full Version : Should post block in ignore feature be dropped
First, this is meant as a method to view member opinion, not as some official call for action.
Based on the complaints over the admin can post when ignored drama.
The post blocking of an ignored member feature was coded in and is not part of the original functionality.
Is it a problem or a solution in your opinion.
Clear and to the point. Voter will not be reading campaign signs on the way to voting booth.
Hazelnut
07-11-2010, 12:31 PM
The ignore feature is the problem, not the quote block coding.
The ignore feature prevents contextual flow between threads. We all know how Amkon works. The famous unithread phenomena that occurs when there is only self-moderation. Being left out of the loop by using the ignore feature eliminates half the fun of hanging out with all you crazy fuckers!
Yeah-well... It's STFU tactic. It's 180 degrees opposed to the spirit of Koidville.
The famous unithread phenomena™
Hazelnut
07-11-2010, 12:33 PM
That was for you, out of deference to your superior mind!
That was for you, out of deference to your superior warped mind! fixt
The ignore feature is the problem, not the quote block coding.
Not sure what that is. I never used the word quote in the OP.
If you do not want to ignore some one, why would you block their posting? Or did you mean both should go?
Hazelnut
07-11-2010, 12:42 PM
Not sure what that is. I never used the word quote in the OP.
If you do not want to ignore some one, why would you block their posting? Or did you mean both should go?
Both should go. It is censorship.
If we are going to go with censorship, let it not be half-assed.
I'll take euthanasia for 500 Alex.
I find it useless.
I just ignore people in the thread.
Or I just make fun of them.
Whatever is best of the whole.
Hazelnut
07-11-2010, 12:53 PM
I'll take euthanasia for 500 Alex.
I find it useless.
I just ignore people in the thread.
Or I just make fun of them.
Whatever is best of the whole.
I think using it then bitching about it makes more sense.
I think using it then bitching about it makes more sense.
It seems using it does cause bitching about it
Chorlton
07-11-2010, 01:03 PM
It seems using it does cause bitching about it
Only when one admin totally ignores it.
Infinite`Eternal`Forever
07-11-2010, 01:04 PM
Most of the faggots that have me on ignore can't hang with the greatness that is me. Royal, Eye, and guy in particular. Fucking faggots.
I think using it then bitching about it makes more sense.
:golf:
Üniversal Ignore is the solution.
Most of the faggots that have me on ignore can't hang with the greatness that is me. Royal, Eye, and guy in particular. Fucking faggots.
Come on you queer use some more FAGGOTS in a sentence you fucking polesmoking faggoty faggot fucker.
Most of the faggots that have me on ignore can't hang with the greatness that is me. Royal, Eye, and guy in particular. Fucking faggots.
Thanks for the useless input.
Actually the solution is removing the Packhack from the Admin team along with his stoopid ignore code.
Chorlton
07-11-2010, 01:11 PM
Most of the faggots that have me on ignore can't hang with the greatness that is me. Royal, Eye, and guy in particular. Fucking faggots.
You are a prick
Live with it.
Chorlton
07-11-2010, 01:12 PM
Come on you queer use some more FAGGOTS in a sentence you fucking polesmoking faggoty faggot fucker.
Faggots are actually quite palatable meatballs usually served with a dark sauce.
This exciting food tip is brought to you courtesy of Chortlon Food Inc. You know it makes sense.
Infinite`Eternal`Forever
07-11-2010, 01:13 PM
Thanks for the useless input.
Yw.
Infinite`Eternal`Forever
07-11-2010, 01:13 PM
You are a prick
Live with it.
And you only have one good eye. Now fuck off.
Well, starting to see why it the feature exists. Trolling is ramping up.
Chorlton
07-11-2010, 01:15 PM
And you only have one good eye. Now fuck off.
Whats that got to do with the price of smoked salmon?
Chorlton
07-11-2010, 01:15 PM
Well, starting to see why it the feature exists. Trolling is ramping up.
Well as the Troll expert, were just following your lead.
Infinite`Eternal`Forever
07-11-2010, 01:15 PM
Whats that got to do with the price of smoked salmon?
Nothing at all.
Chorlton
07-11-2010, 01:16 PM
Nothing at all.
I rest my case.
Guess a demo is in order.
One troll, one troll wrangler.
Thanks for the useless input.
which is exactly why I support the Ignore function. A few folks have me on ignore as well, I do not cry about it, I realize that if they make a thread and do not want to hear my input it is their right, who am I to question it?
Chorlton
07-11-2010, 01:20 PM
which is exactly why I support the Ignore function. A few folks have me on ignore as well, I do not cry about it, I realize that if they make a thread and do not want to hear my input it is their right, who am I to question it?
The problem isnt the Ignore button. Its the problem of the Admin that Ignores it.
Either the Ignore button is for all, or for none. No exceptions
If the ignore / block was thread by thread, it might be more useful.
I here ya Guy. I really never want to total ignore someone but sometimes I would like to see a thread remain more on topic. The food fights can take place in another room.
Well the way I see it- since we've all been condemned to this Icky Feelings Pool by jesus- we're also sentenced to listen to each other's bullshit.
Chorlton
07-11-2010, 01:22 PM
If the ignore / block was thread by thread, it might be more useful.
I here ya Guy. I really never want to total ignore someone but sometimes I would like to see a thread remain more on topic. The food fights can take place in another room.
But thats the Amkon way isnt it? No rules.
The problem isnt the Ignore button. Its the problem of the Admin that Ignores it.
Either the Ignore button is for all, or for none. No exceptions
that sounds fair to me...is it a coding problem, or do the admns intentionally allow it to happen?
Chorlton
07-11-2010, 01:24 PM
that sounds fair to me...is it a coding problem, or do the admns intentionally allow it to happen?
It was alleged that it wasnt possible to change it. I suggested the solution was for Pack to have an Admin presence and a Non Admin presence where he would post with no admin benefits. he turned that down outright.
It was alleged that it wasnt possible to change it. I suggested the solution was for Pack to have an Admin presence and a Non Admin presence where he would post with no admin benefits. he turned that down outright.
hmmm..interesting.
No. It's better to just remove the schmuck's admin privileges period.
Chorlton
07-11-2010, 01:26 PM
hmmm..interesting.
It is indeed interesting that he was not prepared to exist here without privileges.
nixon
07-11-2010, 01:26 PM
The problem isnt the Ignore button. Its the problem of the Admin that Ignores it.
Either the Ignore button is for all, or for none. No exceptions
It is too late for talk of the ignore button.
Chorlton is right...Pack and his continuing implied threats and abuse of the admin caretaker role, makes him unworthy of our trust.
I see mojo and skunk saying no big deal....but this has gone on for months....
A troll admin goes against everything i though Amkon stood for.
we need the putz like we need a carbuncle on our ass.
It could be a problem if the OP ignored every admin, if admins were blockable.
this place should have one admin. Fox.
Chorlton
07-11-2010, 01:28 PM
It could be a problem if the OP ignored every admin, if admins were blockable.
Not if they used my system
A troll admin goes against everything i though Amkon stood for. QFT
Nixon nailed it- even if he can't spell.
Hazelnut
07-11-2010, 01:33 PM
A troll admin goes against everything i though Amkon stood for.
When I was first made aware of the existence of Amkon back in December 09, I understood it to stand for anything goes, grow a thick skin or melt away.
What did you think it stood for? You've been here longer than I have.
The Problem: We have an Admin who threatens members, hacks accounts, recruits ringers from STFU for that purpose, posts personal information, stalks members.
The Solution: Get rid of the prick.
Chorlton
07-11-2010, 01:33 PM
I dont want Pack removed. I just want all posters to be on an even footing.
An Admin should not be able to Ignore someone from his thread then nose into another thread where his is on ignore
If Pack was only allowed to post with normal privileges, he wouldnt be able then to start threads then whimp out when he's losing.
Admin block is a management problem for the board.
May be the answer is if this feature is to exist is that admins post as admins only in official duty.
Cogburn
07-11-2010, 01:34 PM
First, this is meant as a method to view member opinion, not as some official call for action.
Based on the complaints over the admin can post when ignored drama.
The post blocking of an ignored member feature was coded in and is not part of the original functionality.
Is it a problem or a solution in your opinion.
I think it's great.
Watching folks like Chorlton and mur have meltdowns because they've been banned from threads is part of the charm of AmKon.
Chorlton
07-11-2010, 01:35 PM
Admin block is a management problem for the board.
May be the answer is if this feature is to exist is that admins post as admins only in official duty.
Which is what I suggested to pack and he turned it down flat.
THERES your problem.
Or simply get rid of the Ignore feature. It IS censorship
Chorlton
07-11-2010, 01:36 PM
I think it's great.
Watching folks like Chorlton and mur have meltdowns because they've been banned from threads is part of the charm of AmKon.
Almost as charming as your Iquit then coming back as a reborn christion with peace and love and flowers in your hair.
Or simply get rid of the Ignore feature. It IS censorship and strip the guy who implemented it of his admin status.
coming back as a reborn christion with peace and love and flowers in your hair. hahahahaha we were not fooled!
FancyFree
07-11-2010, 01:38 PM
Can't fool a badass GrumpyPants!!! ;)
http://www.penumbra.co.nz/images/choirboy.jpg
Infinite`Eternal`Forever
07-11-2010, 07:09 PM
And yes it should be dropped for two reasons:
1. Certain members who have put me on ignore always wind up taking me off of it. So what's the use in having it if they can't seem to ever use it permenately?
2. I can't pass up fucking with the members who've kept me on it permenately. :D
First, this is meant as a method to view member opinion, not as some official call for action.
Based on the complaints over the admin can post when ignored drama.
The post blocking of an ignored member feature was coded in and is not part of the original functionality.
Is it a problem or a solution in your opinion.
I think anyone that use ignore should be banned . . . .lol . . .stick that in your pipe and smoke it . . . ha ha ha . . . :D If were going to have rule's make them nasty . . . lol :D
Infinite`Eternal`Forever
07-11-2010, 07:29 PM
I think anyone that use ignore should be banned . . . .lol . . .stick that in your pipe and smoke it . . . ha ha ha . . . :D If were going to have rule's make them nasty . . . lol :D
Hahahahahaahahahahahah. This is a quotable. Going in my sig now.
skunk
07-11-2010, 10:56 PM
Well I guess we're going to have to ban IEF. Oh well.
Hissil (http://amkon.net/member.php?u=1479)This message is hidden because Hissil is on your ignore list (http://amkon.net/profile.php?do=ignorelist).
Oh btw, I still have this prick on ignore. Has any progress been made so I can consider taking him off now?
Cogburn
07-12-2010, 12:58 AM
Owned.
+1
Hazelnut
07-12-2010, 01:13 AM
:lol:
Sorry, can't help myself.
:lol:
Infinite`Eternal`Forever
07-12-2010, 02:13 AM
Well I guess we're going to have to ban IEF. Oh well.
And several other members...
pack3tg0st
07-12-2010, 02:13 AM
First, this is meant as a method to view member opinion, not as some official call for action.
Some people are using socks to skew the results HP.
Chorlton
07-12-2010, 04:05 AM
Some people are using socks to skew the results HP.
But thats the Amkon way, as you so courteously ram down people throats week after week
MissSilver
07-12-2010, 04:27 AM
I am fine with the way the ignore works.
I rarely start threads and only have one member on ignore and it is not to censure his free speech, it is to secure my peace of mind.
Those people who scream "censorship" do not even begin to understand the meaning of the word. Having met and talked with a few Pinochet survivors, listening on how censorship meant to literally dissappear, those who right now throw in the censorship card are doing it in order to
1) being unable to troll freely
2) unable to enjoy someone being trolled for he/she has been put on ignore.
As for the Mur episode for it is obvious why this thread was started, Pack overstepping his bound, twice me thinks, shit happens. I was an admin once and it is the most ungrateful job one can have on a BB or forum. It is impossible to please everyone.
The same members who point and scream, "Witch, lets burn her" at the only admin who seems to give a dam about this so called labeled "icky cesspool", the same members who will not hesitate to scream foul on how their so called internet/amkon rights have been stamped on will in the same breath tell other users not to post at Amkon anymore and leave if they feel that they have been unjustly or unfairly treated by other members. Peter and the Wolf comes to mind.
SO we are faced with a member who gloats about
1) Debunking what another fellow said about alien lifeforms who may or may not exist.
2) Beating a dead horse instead of enjoying the kill and have a nice horse loin roast.
3) Boasting on how he is contact with Authority agents (FBI) on a web site where most members claims Anarchy and rejects any authority figures and that member now wonders what he has done wrong and will troll anyone who disagree with his actions (snitching).
Which leads me on authority figure #1 Pack3tGh0st
I use authority because it is what other members who claims that their free speech has been trampled on has this admin as their target. Can't blame myself so I will blame another one has become their favorite game. As I have mentioned earlier, being an admin at a BB or forum is one ungrateful job for there are people who will always find ill will toward you because you have extra options that they do not do.
Being on a board where members could spend weeks if not months on how to define anarchy, that is if they do not mix it with fascism or communism or totalitarianism, it becomes to fucking easy to paint a target who has more board power than they do.
On the Ignore feature, some claims that the creator has broken his own rule. May I ask what rule he broke?
He spent time to make sure that members would be able to moderate their own threads, I never heard anywhere that he was exempt, or any admins for that matter from replying in those threads.
Skunk has resigned his position, so did Mojo and BK is still out there MIA. That leaves FoxO who comes once in a while to remind us of the escare hatch and the last bastion standing is taking more shit that he outta considering he is the last one standing on that mote that is Amkon.
If ones life is so shitty that he/she feels the needs to take it out on the last person who tries to keep this site afloat, then I suggest a break from the internet all together and a long ass walk in nature to listen to the babbling brooks and the chirping of birds, if not the laughter of children.
The ignore feature works just fine as it is and is quite unique from any other bb/forums I frequent or have frequented. We should be proud of it instead of shitting on it for it gives a plus to this site and the people who has put in the time and effort to make it so.
Be it as it may, some people will never be happy as long as they do not have the last word... but that is their lot and their own burden to bear, not mine.
On this, ya'll can keep on bitching or trucking whatever road you may take, Just try to be happy for life is outside this door of ours and not on this board nor the internet.
Peace all.
Just a friendly reminder of a quote I cherish most that it is still in that sig
Originally Posted by Ima Nasshole http://amkon.net/Styles/DARK_VB%20GREEN/dark_vb/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://amkon.net/showthread.php?p=359791#post359791)
The fucking drama and mis-placed selfrighteousness of some around here is absofuckinglutely amazing.
Chorlton
07-12-2010, 04:44 AM
MissSilver. I was modding BB's probably before Pack was born and when that BB was held on one's own server and one had to use a rubber 'condom' on the phone to make the connection. S I think I know a little about them, though I just dont jump up and down boasting about what a Script Kiddie I am (like Pack does 24/7)
Admins, for the most part have respect from the users of most Forums and BB's because they do not overuse their powers. In many cases, Admins wont even post.
The problem one has is when an Admin thinks himself irreplaceable. Then you have mischief.
An Admin is a person and has their own thoughts and ideas on things and as such should be able to post. HOWEVER, when an Admin uses something like an Ignore Button, he excludes a person from posting on that thread. BUT when someone uses an Ignore Button on an Admin, and they DELIBERATLEY ignore it and post on that thread that is total misuse of power.
There is also another problem with the Ignore button. One may simply wish to Ignore someone from, say, one thread, yet the Ignore button here will put that person either fully on Ignore for all threads or fully off ignore for all thread.
As for an Admins misuse of power, I have consistantly stated that there is a very easy solution. Pack has Admin powers but he should NOT be allowed to post as an admin. His admin status is there to work technically on this forum an not to misuse his status. When he wishes to post on any thread, he simply creates another Entity like Pack2, then logs off as admin and logs on as his alter entity with no special admin powers.
This would not have been needed or even brought up at all if pack had not misused his Admin status, but he has and was seen to do so. He is also guilty of other missdeeds and personally I and other have lost trust in him.
What must be seriously considered is, when I put the suggestion to him that he log on without Admin powers, he bluntly refused. Why? what is he afraid of?, being subject to the same rules everyone else is?.
He is not above the rules, he does not make the rules (but he likes to try)
MissSilver
07-12-2010, 04:59 AM
Pack has resigned once over a tempest in a tea cup (the warren incident)
He was asked to come back for some coding and stated that he will remain an admin as long as his job is not finished.
Granted, I did avoid the internet till 1997 ie 22 years old and started to frequent a BB/forum only back in 1999 (napster board) I could have been on sooner but I refused to, I tend to resist new technology.
I will also try very hard not to cast the first stone. You have your own playground and administer it as you see fit, live and let live.
I meant to ask, according to you, what is the "Amkon way"?
Chorlton
07-12-2010, 05:13 AM
Pack has resigned once over a tempest in a tea cup (the warren incident)
He was asked to come back for some coding and stated that he will remain an admin as long as his job is not finished.
Granted, I did avoid the internet till 1997 ie 22 years old and started to frequent a BB/forum only back in 1999 (napster board) I could have been on sooner but I refused to, I tend to resist new technology.
I will also try very hard not to cast the first stone. You have your own playground and administer it as you see fit, live and let live.
I meant to ask, according to you, what is the "Amkon way"?
The 'Amkon Way'? well as it is constantly reminded to us by Pack, and Skunk, its a free for all, self censoring forum.
Problem is, thats a pretty idealistic free thinking objective thats failed.
Every Free thinking, place or Forum needs rules. Without it you have anarchy. Without it you have a bloody decent Forum being ruined by pricks posting threads entitled:
Anarch... why do you act like a bitch in heat? (http://amkon.net/showthread.php?t=27989)
Raped by a pack of niggers...Does it ring a bell IEF? (http://amkon.net/showthread.php?t=27963)
The following female members have "dangerous pussy" (http://amkon.net/showthread.php?t=27972)
Aless...I have doubts about you... (http://amkon.net/showthread.php?t=27990)
Dissapearing Hot Dog Experiment. Photographic Prints. Final part! (http://amkon.net/showthread.php?t=27962)
What are you wearing right now? (http://amkon.net/showthread.php?t=27883)
what amkon member would you like to vacation with? (http://amkon.net/showthread.php?t=27602)
Post a pic of your car. (http://amkon.net/showthread.php?t=27911)
Apart from which you have an admin who likes to enforce his own rules even though, as he constantly droans on about in other Forums, he really doesnt want to be here.
Admins should be subject to the same rules as everyone else.
Cogburn
07-12-2010, 05:29 AM
Problem is, thats a pretty idealistic free thinking objective thats failed.
Every Free thinking, place or Forum needs rules. Without it you have anarchy. Without it you have a bloody decent Forum being ruined by pricks posting threads entitled:
Anarch... why do you act like a bitch in heat? (http://amkon.net/showthread.php?t=27989)
Raped by a pack of niggers...Does it ring a bell IEF? (http://amkon.net/showthread.php?t=27963)
The following female members have "dangerous pussy" (http://amkon.net/showthread.php?t=27972)
Aless...I have doubts about you... (http://amkon.net/showthread.php?t=27990)
Dissapearing Hot Dog Experiment. Photographic Prints. Final part! (http://amkon.net/showthread.php?t=27962)
What are you wearing right now? (http://amkon.net/showthread.php?t=27883)
what amkon member would you like to vacation with? (http://amkon.net/showthread.php?t=27602)
Post a pic of your car. (http://amkon.net/showthread.php?t=27911)
Failed? Looks like it's working as intended.
The wabi-sabi that is AmKon is not always to everyone's taste.
I doubt the day will come when pronouncements of the "failure of AmKon" will cease. It's damn near a weekly occurrence.
Chorlton
07-12-2010, 05:32 AM
Bot could those threads be classified correctly as Amerikan Conspiracy?
or simply, American Flippancy
S1eepy
07-12-2010, 05:42 AM
it would appear that nobody has learned anything yet. . .
if it were up to me initiation rites would be to make a friend in /b. if you can get one of the old fags to take a break from trolling and give you a thumbs up: you should be able to keep your balls off the burner anywhere.
Cogburn
07-12-2010, 05:50 AM
Bot could those threads be classified correctly as Amerikan Conspiracy?
or simply, American Flippancy
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
You could, of course, always start a thread of that which you consider worth and value and skew the percentage back in the direction you deem proper.
Chorlton
07-12-2010, 05:57 AM
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
You could, of course, always start a thread of that which you consider worth and value and skew the percentage back in the direction you deem proper.
Whats the point when it will eventually be trolled by 'awfully nice girly types' who get offended when they fail to understand something or by 'niggers with attitude' or 'nigger haters with attitude' or worse still BE :)
Cogburn
07-12-2010, 06:05 AM
Whats the point when it will eventually be trolled by 'awfully nice girly types' who get offended when they fail to understand something or by 'niggers with attitude' or 'nigger haters with attitude' or worse still BE :)
... and enter the ignore feature to prune such users from your threads when necessary.
I've even put you on ignore for a time when you went on a tear about something and didn't want you to troll until you cooled off. I've done that to quite a few people here from time to time, and I can't say that any of them have ever noticed given it lasted so briefly... except for maybe Jackinthebox.
The raison d'etre of a non/low moderated forum is its own existence. Anything beyond that is what you might bring to the table as a member.
Chorlton
07-12-2010, 06:09 AM
... and enter the ignore feature to prune such users from your threads when necessary.
I've even put you on ignore for a time when you went on a tear about something and didn't want you to troll until you cooled off. I've done that to quite a few people here from time to time, and I can't say that any of them have ever noticed given it lasted so briefly... except for maybe Jackinthebox.
The raison d'etre of a non/low moderated forum is its own existence. Anything beyond that is what you might bring to the table as a member.
But, once again Ive never stated bluntly that I objected to the Ignore button per se. What I object to is its misuse by The Admin.
The Admin is not above the rules of this forum.
Cogburn
07-12-2010, 06:17 AM
But, once again Ive never stated bluntly that I objected to the Ignore button per se. What I object to is its misuse by The Admin.
The Admin is not above the rules of this forum.
What's the hub-bub about being an admin or not, anyway?
Let's be clear: technically speaking, being an admin makes you above the forum rules by default as a function of the software.
Mur was attempting to be a dickhead by using the rules of AmKon to annoy members.
One could very well make the argument that pack did the same thing given he's an admin.
How about we just make a new rule: "Don't piss off the admins because they can annoy you more than you can annoy them."
There's an assumption being made here about how a "proper" forum should operate that simply hasn't been established in regard to AmKon.
Chorlton
07-12-2010, 06:25 AM
How about we just make a new rule: "Don't piss off the admins because they can annoy you more than you can annoy them."
But they cant, maybe on a Forum they could, but they cant annoy me, personally, privately.
But No because that is making the Admin something he isnt. They arent deities with precogniscance of things, they arent superman.
If it was any other Admin I might agree with you but pack has shown he is unstable, has no qualms about threatening people, will happilly post personal information about people and is a drunken lout.
That sort of person garners no respect.
There's an assumption being made here about how a "proper" for, they arent godsum should operate that simply hasn't been established in regard to AmKon.
No, what Pack is attempting to establish is that he is not subject to the same rules as anyone else, which is totally wrong
Cogburn
07-12-2010, 06:40 AM
If it was any other Admin I might agree with you but pack has shown he is unstable, has no qualms about threatening people, will happilly post personal information about people and is a drunken lout.
That sort of person garners no respect.
Not a single one of those things disqualifies an individual from being a perfectly acceptable administrator of an online forum.
Having run my share of forums, I'd even say that a few of them are requirements.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cogburn http://amkon.net/Styles/DARK_VB%20GREEN/dark_vb/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://amkon.net/showthread.php?p=464486#post464486)
How about we just make a new rule: "Don't piss off the admins because they can annoy you more than you can annoy them."
But they cant, maybe on a Forum they could, but they cant annoy me, personally, privately.Isn't this all about a forum...