Seriously people?

[skunk]

Are you proud of yourselves? Does it make you happy to post other people's addresses, names, what have you?

Is this improving the quality of AmKon?

Or have we become what we hate.

This harassment MUST stop. I am seriously considering renaming all the threads with addresses in it, this shit is beyond fucked.

This is a website on the fucking internet. Is it really worth potentially ruining someone else's life over petty bullcrap?

Grow the fuck up.

[Snow Crash]

Are you proud of yourselves? Does it make you happy to post other people's addresses, names, what have you?

Is this improving the quality of AmKon?

Or have we become what we hate.

This harassment MUST stop. I am seriously considering renaming all the threads with addresses in it, this shit is beyond fucked.

This is a website on the fucking internet. Is it really worth potentially ruining someone else's life over petty bullcrap?

Grow the fuck up.

Seconded.

[MissA]

Skunk,

you are very sweet.

[Pam]

Thirdeded :D

[Ducky]

Seconded.

Fourthed.

[Snow Crash]

Skunk,

you are very sweet.

Put skunk in your tea.

[WhispersInTheDark]

I haven't posted anyone's address, nor would I.

But it begs the question, why do people have enough of themselves out there with a group of people hiding themselves behind internet personas, that people have each other's names and addresses anyway? How would such trust have been established in the first place?

And as pack says, how is this not the real world? Someone turns on you, you face the real life consequences, surely.

[Ducky]

Are you proud of yourselves? Does it make you happy to post other people's addresses, names, what have you?

Is this improving the quality of AmKon?

Or have we become what we hate.

This harassment MUST stop. I am seriously considering renaming all the threads with addresses in it, this shit is beyond fucked.

This is a website on the fucking internet. Is it really worth potentially ruining someone else's life over petty bullcrap?

Grow the fuck up.

Apparently you haven't seen my reply to the latest thread ....

Or may be you have?

[skunk]

And as pack says, how is this not the real world? Someone turns on you, you face the real life consequences, surely.

I think that was kind of the point. I believe his reasoning for posting BE's address is due to this:

http://amkon.net/there-snitch-amongst-us-t26258.html?t=26258

Do I agree with his actions? No, but I do understand why.

BE thought it would be a good idea to step it up a notch and bring this beef into the "real world", so pack took two steps.

[skunk]

Apparently you haven't seen my reply to the latest thread ....

Or may be you have?

Yes I read it ducky, I didn't really have much to add though.

This is getting ridiculous. We're tearing ourselves apart from within.

[MissA]

I agree with WITD. i don't have Facebook for a reason. I don't have a Myspace for a reason. I refuse Googleblast. I don't put my info out on the Net precisely because I do NOT want people to have it.

Also, Pack stands firmly on the fact that he did step up the game because board drama was taken off the board (potentially). I don't think he has posted any personal information since, so I don't know what happened today or why come to think of it.

Did Pack post anything else?

[MissA]

Oops, and...

I don't agree with posting stuff that's RL. I said it regarding Hissil's info being put up, with BEs, and with Packs. Even if you weren't careful about sharing...you didn't share here.

[anarch]

I did not see the same thing skunk...or should I say I did not take it the same way...

The only two address I saw was what Pack posted and parox posted.. and cog posting his own... I posted the address to a strip club...

I was considering going to the members contest section and making a fun time of inviting folks to attempt to google me... because I could not find myself with my own exact address and screen names..I was curious if anyone could do better than me with search engines...

Hmmmm....

Would it help if I said " we love you"?

[anarch]

What can I say... I do not fear my personal info being out there.

I understand that if folks want to find it that baddly they will at all costs...

This posting of addresses to me is just a means to scare those that are easily intimidated. What can one do with an address? Order a dozen pizzas to someones home? Put up a classified for a swingers get together? Most of us are separated by miles and miles and I do believe we all possess the intelligence not to knock on one anothers door uninvited.

Posting an address with out permission is rude but in the larger scheme of tings I do not take it as a threat. Knocking on my door is more threatening to me than public information... Hell I have a criminal history so every employer and their families can get what ever they like on me... It doesn't scare me... and it only mildly bothers me because despite my displeasure of the criminal record that wont make it go away.
meh....

I dont know what to say...

Don't take it all so seriously?

[Cogburn]

Real men don't post other people's info, they post their own.

:twisted:

[lala]

Fuck the bullshit thick and fast . . . I'm over the name calling bullshit . . . I wish they just stop the child's play . . . .talk about shamefully embarrassing . . . :oops:
For the ones putting personal info on, cos they can, are just showing how fucked in the head they are . . .
They broken a basic trust . . . most people are not hiding anyway, you know, there a thing called a phone book . . .
All to get one up . . . one up on whom, one wonders . . . one up on what a completely untrustworthy person you can be, to tip someone out over different view's/words . . . learn to fucken control yourself . . . because if a psychiatrist had a look at this group . . . he'd be saying step away from your computer, your behavior is becoming irrational . . . warning warning melt down imminent . . . :D

[anarch]

Fuck the bullshit thick and fast . . . I'm over the name calling bullshit . . . I wish they just stop the child's play . . . .talk about shamefully embarrassing . . . :oops:
For the ones putting personal info on, cos they can, are just showing how fucked in the head they are . . .
They broken a basic trust . . . most people are not hiding anyway, you know, there a thing called a phone book . . .
All to get one up . . . one up on whom, one wonders . . . one up on what a completely untrustworthy person you can be, to tip someone out over different view's/words . . . learn to fucken control yourself . . . because if a psychiatrist had a look at this group . . . he'd be saying step away from your computer, your behavior is becoming irrational . . . warning warning melt down imminent . . . :D


True words. WE could all stand to pay more attention to this wisdom right here. Self included.

[Royal]

Fuck the bullshit thick and fast . . .

Out of all the things I read today, this quote by lala opened up my heart chakra, and maybe me mentally orgasm with laughter.

Emphasis on thick and fast.

It wasn't enough that the english language provides "fuck" as a substitute for Forget or eliminate, and bullshit for shinnanigans, but now fucking it "thick and fast" provides and entirely new layer on how to deal with bullshit.

How does one fuck the bullshit thick and fast? First, is "thick and fast" this reference to sex or application of food? Second, how thick or how fast is one the object. This can only be presribed to the words from the readers imagination...

I hope you guys understand, lala made history tonight, and Amkon is now a holy area for all shit talkers in the world.

[Oblivion]

Are you proud of yourselves? Does it make you happy to post other people's addresses, names, what have you?

Is this improving the quality of AmKon?

Or have we become what we hate.

This harassment MUST stop. I am seriously considering renaming all the threads with addresses in it, this shit is beyond fucked.

This is a website on the fucking internet. Is it really worth potentially ruining someone else's life over petty bullcrap?

Grow the fuck up.


thats what happens when you give a man a shiney badge and full control

[Cogburn]

You mean a voice of reason?

[egg]

They broken a basic trust . . .

Truth.

[lala]

You mean a voice of reason?



In who mind . . . reason can be dangerous in a insane mind . . . .;)

[Eyeforalie]

Whats the big deal? Dont do shit that makes people want to post your info. Simple.

[lala]

Whats the big deal? Dont do shit that makes people want to post your info. Simple.


No I don't think that make anyone the king post away . . .I personally couldn't give a shit, but to try and hold that over anyone head like lord and master, get fucked . . . who the fuck do you's think you are . . . they have no more RIGHTS than anyone . . .

[Trauma Teased]

Whats the big deal? Dont do shit that makes people want to post your info. Simple.

And where should that line be drawn? What are you allowed to say or do on a forum?

Some people throw a fit simply because you make a joke and they have no sense of humor, some people suffer a complete mental meltdown if you disagree with them about something, some people goes into a rage if you believe in another God or religion than them...

Well, in that case we better just shut the hell up all of us and be very, very careful so we don't provoce certain unstable people. Cause they have the right to harass us if they feel like it. THEY get to set the rules, is that it?

[MissSilver]

Well, in that case we better just shut the hell up all of us and be very, very careful so we don't provoce certain unstable people. Cause they have the right to harass us if they feel like it. THEY get to set the rules, is that it?


Free speech is one hell of a lovely thing, ain't it?

As much as people go back and forth and cry foul when they feel that their free speech is impeded upon here at amkon, free speech also has it's consequences. A LOT of people doesn't seem to grasp that fundemental concept.

[lala]

Talk about a new low . . . held to ransom over a fucken nutters mood . . .way to go amkon . . .they don't ban, they stalk the fuck out of you and expose any private information they can find . . .then troll other site starting threads with your phone number etc . . . way to go . . . something nice for the siggy . . . the funnest thing is though, you carry on about BE threating amkon what the fuck do you call this Pac's Rules . . . why don't you rename the site and be done with it . . . o but poor pac feeling were hurt . . . fuck anyone else . . . along as he doesn't get his little feeling hurt, or upset him in any form you won't have the nutter trying to stalk you . . . talk about unbalanced

[Trauma Teased]

Free speech is one hell of a lovely thing, ain't it?

As much as people go back and forth and cry foul when they feel that their free speech is impeded upon here at amkon, free speech also has it's consequences. A LOT of people doesn't seem to grasp that fundemental concept.

I have NEVER cried foul and claimed that MY free speech has been impeded on here at AmKon. You should not put words in my mouth like that. So far, I have been able to post in any thread I like, so my freedom to speak here has not been restricted in any way. (If anyone has me on ignore, I have not discovered it yet, haha.)

ALL i have said is that as long as the ignore function is what it is at AmKon, the forum can no longer claim to be all about free speech and no bannings. Simply because the ignore function actually allows you to shut people up and postban them from your threads.

[MissSilver]

Talk about a new low . . . held to ransom over a fucken nutters mood . . .way to go amkon . . .they don't ban, they stalk the fuck out of you and expose any private information they can find . . .then troll other site starting threads with your phone number etc . . . way to go . . . something nice for the siggy . . . the funnest thing is though, you carry on about BE threating amkon what the fuck do you call this Pac's Rules . . . why don't you rename the site and be done with it . . . o but poor pac feeling were hurt . . . fuck anyone else . . . along as he doesn't get his little feeling hurt, or upset him in any form you won't have the nutter trying to stalk you . . . talk about unbalanced


Lala, for the record, I do not agree with anything that went down for it just went too far.

Pack opened that insane waltz from hell and it should have dies there IMHO but someone else decided to pick it up. As the old saying goes, it takes 2 to tango.

I just hope that skunk goes through with his idea to alter the threads with all the personal info posted and that Chorlton will pick up the pace at his site and do the same.

But having come to know AmKon as it is, if something is "altered" or "censored" a lot of people will cry foul about free speech being censored. It is up to those guys to resolve their "issues" between them and if they decides to launder it in public, we can only watch or shrug (in my case) or just start more drama about it instead of letting those thread sink as they should.

Free speech is a double edge sword.

[Trauma Teased]

But having come to know AmKon as it is, if something is "altered" or "censored" a lot of people will cry foul about free speech being censored. It is up to those guys to resolve their "issues" between them and if they decides to launder it in public, we can only watch or shrug (in my case) or just start more drama about it instead of letting those thread sink as they should.

Free speech is a double edge sword.

I don't think you will find anyone here at AmKon who has a problem with personal info being removed from those thread titles. People seem to pretty much agree that a line has been crossed and trust broken.

But you seem to imagine hearing people cry foul ever so often, so hey...

[Eyeforalie]

If its out there, its fair game. How is it any different from posting the address of a banker or politician?

The odds of having an identity stolen this way are extremely slim, as that process is usually automated through spam, virus etc. This community isn't very large. If someone who were to happen to simply stumble upon an address and had some sort of issue that caused them to utilize the said info, I would be very surprised. I mean, really, anyone of you could be hunted down. Does your address being posted on a very small, secluded corner of the net increase the odds of you being slaughtered? Prolly not. Paranoia? Defiantly.

[MissSilver]

I have NEVER cried foul and claimed that MY free speech has been impeded on here at AmKon. You should not put words in my mouth like that. So far, I have been able to post in any thread I like, so my freedom to speak here has not been restricted in any way. (If anyone has me on ignore, I have not discovered it yet, haha.)

ALL i have said is that as long as the ignore function is what it is at AmKon, the forum can no longer claim to be all about free speech and no bannings. Simply because the ignore function actually allows you to shut people up and postban them from your threads.


Who said I was talking about YOU TT

I quoted you because you have a valid point about pissing off people and what you said next.

[Royal]

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DIRTY AND FILTHY



STINKY AND NASTY


FUCKING RETARDED




BATCH O'


DRAMA FILLED

DRAMA COATED

DRAMA PLATED

PLUMP AND JUICY

FINGER LICKING DAMN FINE


DAMN GOOD

CUPCAKES


OUT OF THE

SMELLY AND SMILING ASSHOLE


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A CONNOISSEUR OF 18TH CENTURY FRENCH CUISINE.



i'M DONE AM i DONE?

[MissSilver]

I don't think you will find anyone here at AmKon who has a problem with personal info being removed from those thread titles. People seem to pretty much agree that a line has been crossed and trust broken.

But you seem to imagine hearing people cry foul ever so often, so hey...


A lot of people would pull an IQuit on Amkon if freedom of speech were to be taken away or some people banned.

I have seen it posted more than a few times over the month i've been a member. If the search function didn't suck so much, I would gladly posts example of what I am referring to.

Lets just see if Skunk decides to remove all private info posted what type of stink fest will arise from those actions.

[Trauma Teased]

If its out there, its fair game. How is it any different from posting the address of a banker or politician?



I don't do FaceBook or MySpace, I don't have a blog, I don't Twitter. I have not put anything "out there". I have never shared or posted a pic of myself anywhere on the net, and I never will.

There are a few of us who value our privacy very much. I certainly do not see myself as fair game.

[lala]

BECAUSE THERE IS NO REAL NEED TO DO IT . . . IT IS DONE ONLY IN SPITE . . . TO BE A CUNT . . .NICE ADVERTISEMENT FOR AMKON . . . WE DON'T BAN, WE STALK . . .

[Trauma Teased]

Who said I was talking about YOU TT

I quoted you because you have a valid point about pissing off people and what you said next.


OK, I thought you were talking directly to me. Sorry.

[Eyeforalie]

I don't do FaceBook or MySpace, I don't have a blog, I don't Twitter. I have not put anything "out there". I have never shared or posted a pic of myself anywhere on the net, and I never will.

There are a few of us who value our privacy very much. I certainly do not see myself as fair game.

Its still out there. You have an E-mail account?

Plus, was your address posted?

[Eyeforalie]

When there is nothing for paranoid people to be paranoid about in the news, they will create paranoia. This situation is proof.

[Trauma Teased]

Its still out there. You have an E-mail account?

Plus, was your address posted?

Yes, I have a e-mail adress. Private and at work. The one at work has my full name in it. Does that make me fair game?

And no, my adress has not been posted. Yet. But I better be damn careful so a certain person don't get pissed off. With him being so proud of his ability to mess with people's computers and hack into everything he wants to.

It's a wonderful thing when the psychos among us gets to set the rules, isn't it? I guess I should just go back to pen and paper.

[Eyeforalie]

BECAUSE THERE IS NO REAL NEED TO DO IT . . . IT IS DONE ONLY IN SPITE . . . TO BE A CUNT . . .NICE ADVERTISEMENT FOR AMKON . . . WE DON'T BAN, WE STALK . . .

Is there any real need to post anything at all?

Its only "bad" because of group-think. Anyone who calls for attention enough to have an address posted or a dick pasted on their kids head has no right to draw the line of how much attention is too much. That energy is not secular and they have absolutely no control over it. Play with fire, you will be burnt.

[lala]

I take this very seriously eye and not because I care about people finding out my name, etc . . I find it to be a brake down in basic trust of a small community, that have shared and started to build trust with each other . . .
I look at what a person in a postion of trust has done, to say they left, and then post personal stuff is pathetic . . . I've tried to keep myself away from this, but at the end of the day it is wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong. . . this isn't tit for tat any more its stalking.
I'm think about new members looking at this, guest looking at this . . . and your trying to some how say it is acceptable behavior . . . please what fucken world do you's live in . . .

[Royal]

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DO NOT STARE AT THE CYCLOPS EYE

[anarch]

If its out there, its fair game. How is it any different from posting the address of a banker or politician?

The odds of having an identity stolen this way are extremely slim, as that process is usually automated through spam, virus etc. This community isn't very large. If someone who were to happen to simply stumble upon an address and had some sort of issue that caused them to utilize the said info, I would be very surprised. I mean, really, anyone of you could be hunted down. Does your address being posted on a very small, secluded corner of the net increase the odds of you being slaughtered? Prolly not. Paranoia? Defiantly.


I agree with this too...

....THe other side of Lalas coin if you will.

Posting my address would be no different than posting the address of a movie star or politician. We are here. That makes us public people. And for those that understand how to trace just signing in is enough to find out exactly where your typing from. Now that is not the same thing as using search engines to try and find the information but some folks are smart enough that they don't need to use a search engine to find out more about you... And if they are that smart then I also suspect they would be smart enough not to knock on your doorstep unannounced.

Our addresses are not state secrets. But just because one can post where we live does not mean it is ethical to do so. On the flip side if it is done to us I do not think that it should spark a spastic freak out of epic proportions...

Just call the turd for what it is and move on with the day.

.....

[Eyeforalie]

I agree that it is disgusting in that it represents another breakdown in trust and civility. Nothing new lala, unfortunately. Feed the trolls and they will grow. This is what happens when rules and a strong moral backbone become invalid. In a true anarchistic society there would be a lot of murder. Cant do that here so rapists run rampant.

[anarch]

I take this very seriously eye this isn't tit for tat any more its stalking.......
I'm think about new members looking at this, guest looking at this . . . and your trying to some how say it is acceptable behavior . . . please what fucken world do you's live in . . .

OK to interject here.

I do not think posting folks private data is the most polite thing in the world to do. It's down right fucked up.

As for stalking... I draw the line with the real world.

Folks can follow me around online (Some have) and post my personal data (Some did right when I arrived here after leaving there) this does not get to me... When a stranger knocks on my door and will not answer when I ask "Who is it?" well then... I get real paranoid real quick. All that bottled up internet crazy is likely to come out in the form of a bat or something.

Meh.. ...

Last time I had a bad experience at the door some fuck head was trying to sell me a .22. I did not buy it... But a fight still ensued.... Real life drama stemming from a drug deal gone bad (I got ripped off, got even, and the cons wanted to get even for my getting even). So having a phone number house number online is not what I perceive as a real life threat.

But thats me, I understand everyone is different and I do agree publicly advertising folks data with out permission is a dick thing to do.

[lala]

We are not fucken movie star's you dick fucken hell . . . I don't know why I bother at times . . .
No wonder your alway's fighting you have no personal boundary, if you do not show respect for yourself and your action, how the hell can you ever expect anyone to respect or even want to conver's with you . . .
Respect is hard earn't, but easily lost . . .a man with no respect is no man . . .

[anarch]

. In a true anarchistic society there would be a lot of murder. Cant do that here so rapists run rampant.

Two people posting other peoples data and only one with out permission. I would not call that rapists running rampant... and as far as I understood Pack issued the challenge openly. Cog came close but made a reference about parents and the conversation continued yada yada...

Parox here seems to think he has gotten closer. and maybe he has but even if such is so it is still just taking Pack up on his challenge....

And I am most confident Pack would not be the right person to fuck with in the real world.

Anyways... too much mushyness for me know... I'm gonna got look for something else now.

Nvm. couldn't do it.. Gotta respond to Lala! Because I like Lala.

[Royal]

ahahaha I have 25 guests on my last thread. people luv IT! Please join in.

[anarch]

We are not fucken movie star's you dick fucken hell . . .


We are not Politicians either.

But we are public people... Whether hanging out in a public bar or on a public forum this is not a private place like our home despite the fact we may feel that way because we post from our homes.

TO me talking here is not so different from talking in a bar or pool hall..


I don't know why I bother at times . . .
Because you care.




No wonder your alway's fighting you have no personal boundary, if you do not show respect for yourself and your action, how the hell can you ever expect anyone to respect or even want to conver's with you . . .
Respect is hard earn't, but easily lost . . .a man with no respect is no man . . .


Oh now I have personal boundaries very personal boundaries. They are not to be crossed. But they do not apply here... but in real life. Someone can copy and paste a dick to my face here... that don't make me a cock sucker in real life. Now if someone were to get in my face in real life...well the intrusion into my personal space would not be well received.

Thats the difference for me between the internet and real life. We can not reach out and touch folks here... in real life we can.

[lala]

Don't worry Anarch . . . I've said my piece, and its just how I am . . . better out than in I say. The horrible part is I like these people and can not understand why they feel they need to be so nasty, it showing me a side of them I do not wish to see . . . I'll pop the blinkers back on, so I don't scare you's . . . lol;)

[MissSilver]

We are not fucken movie star's you dick fucken hell . . . I don't know why I bother at times . . .
No wonder your alway's fighting you have no personal boundary, if you do not show respect for yourself and your action, how the hell can you ever expect anyone to respect or even want to conver's with you . . .
Respect is hard earn't, but easily lost . . .a man with no respect is no man . . .


We are not men, we are mice! :mrgreen:

Seriously lala, do not pop a blood vessel on this one, it would be a great loss for the members of AmKon :(

Eye and Anarch do have good points, the info is out there and it is fair game to seek it. Does it really make a difference if it is the one of a movie star, a politician or just a regular person like you or I? We are all human beings in that respect and I see no difference between me or any movie stars beside the fact that I do not have paparazzi hunting me down for any type of juicy tidbit info they can get their hand on. Does it make it ok because it is fair game? Not really for I think that all paparazzi are scum but they do it anyway because there is an audience for it. Same goes here with all that posting of infos, those threads would have sunk at the bottom right away if there wasn't an audience to keep them alive.

[lala]

You take me all wrong Miss S . . . this is not lala anger at all . . .lol just put my thoughts out there, as this is what I think . . .
I am more than aware from the hissy fit, the in and out of hunting down people info is really not hard.
You seem to be missing the point, the point is, it is not acceptable behaviour, when done without the other person knowledge . . . simple . .
Let alone in a postion of trust . . . what's next ?
I rant and push my point, to try and have some form of common decency, if you brush off unacceptable behaviour, with cos he can, what will our world come to . . . .
I say no to treating people badly, I will not accept it, and I will not sit back and say nothing . . .:D

Power to the lala . . . lol;)


[kiwi spell checked me lol]

[Paroxysm]

Are you proud of yourselves?

Somewhat. But due to the overwhelming response from the membership, I am a bit ashamed as well.

[WhispersInTheDark]

The only way to save your reputation now would be to do something worse.

[Paroxysm]

Hmmm, not a bad I idea.

Gimme some suggestions.

[anarch]

Post your address?

[Paroxysm]

Only if you mail me some special cupcakes...

[anarch]

You send me the ingredients first and i'll bake em.

[Paroxysm]

The ingredients include a few small propane tanks, and a few handfuls of gun powder...bake at 400 until...well, you'll know when it's done...;)

[pack3tg0st]

hahaha you people are funny lol

1) I've had a standing challenge for people to find my shit out... its no big deal. Why would it be? I've put the information out on the web myself.

2) I didn't publish anything more than what BE himself published on the web... If he was THAT concerned about privacy, why would he put it out there for everyone to see to begin with? (and yes, he did publish it in its entirety. Check the whois record for boycotteverything.net)

3) This position of trust stuff is getting old... do you remember the thread where I stepped away from amkon? That wasn't a joke.

Whats the real issue? The fact people believe in some sort of illusion of anonymity on the internet? Privacy isn't something you can sit back and expect to just come your way. You have to protect it yourself. Its no one elses job but your own.

Have you stepped back and really LOOKED at what went down yet? BE says skunk banned him... no biggie.. BE says skunk posted child porn... thats kinda a biggie... BE says he went to 'the man' and reported him.... now we're talking some real escalation with real consequences...

Parox posts real child pr0n, and everyone laughs it off as some sort of educational experience. What you guys didn't see was the huge influx of private, untracable IP's after that whole deal... Skunk and I chat via IM daily... he was worried about that...

So, I started to play in my own way... the only difference is, BE started the chess match out 3 moves ahead.

Anyway, Who really cares? Why is it a sin for me to publish addresses but its not a sin for parox to post child porn, or BE to hoax the entire board? Why is everyone focusing on smaller parts of the big picture, and not looking at it as a whole?

And Parox: Your results are closer than Cog's were, but you're still not 100% exact. I mean each aspect of what you posted was true at one time... but you also forget that my mom-in law doesn't speak english, and is 70 yrs old... so my name will pop up in regards to 90% of her shit too.

[averagejoe]

Are you proud of yourselves? Does it make you happy to post other people's addresses, names, what have you?

Is this improving the quality of AmKon?

Or have we become what we hate.

This harassment MUST stop. I am seriously considering renaming all the threads with addresses in it, this shit is beyond fucked.

This is a website on the fucking internet. Is it really worth potentially ruining someone else's life over petty bullcrap?

Grow the fuck up.

I agree.

Even on an unmoderated forum there needs to be some boundaries.

[anarch]

The boundaries are the ones we enforce upon ourselves.

[anarch]

hahaha you people are funny lol

1) I've had a standing challenge for people to find my shit out... its no big deal. Why would it be? I've put the information out on the web myself.

2) I didn't publish anything more than what BE himself published on the web... If he was THAT concerned about privacy, why would he put it out there for everyone to see to begin with? (and yes, he did publish it in its entirety. Check the whois record for boycotteverything.net)

3) This position of trust stuff is getting old... do you remember the thread where I stepped away from amkon? That wasn't a joke.

Whats the real issue? The fact people believe in some sort of illusion of anonymity on the internet? Privacy isn't something you can sit back and expect to just come your way. You have to protect it yourself. Its no one elses job but your own.

Have you stepped back and really LOOKED at what went down yet? BE says skunk banned him... no biggie.. BE says skunk posted child porn... thats kinda a biggie... BE says he went to 'the man' and reported him.... now we're talking some real escalation with real consequences...

Parox posts real child pr0n, and everyone laughs it off as some sort of educational experience. What you guys didn't see was the huge influx of private, untracable IP's after that whole deal... Skunk and I chat via IM daily... he was worried about that...

So, I started to play in my own way... the only difference is, BE started the chess match out 3 moves ahead.

Anyway, Who really cares? Why is it a sin for me to publish addresses but its not a sin for parox to post child porn, or BE to hoax the entire board? Why is everyone focusing on smaller parts of the big picture, and not looking at it as a whole?

And Parox: Your results are closer than Cog's were, but you're still not 100% exact. I mean each aspect of what you posted was true at one time... but you also forget that my mom-in law doesn't speak english, and is 70 yrs old... so my name will pop up in regards to 90% of her shit too.


QFT

[averagejoe]

The boundaries are the ones we enforce upon ourselves.

Amkon does seem to have a sort of process of natural selection - when things get heated between two folks, even though there is no moderation per se, arguments often peter out to an iQuit.

[Paroxysm]

2) I didn't publish anything more than what BE himself published on the web... If he was THAT concerned about privacy, why would he put it out there for everyone to see to begin with? (and yes, he did publish it in its entirety. Check the whois record for boycotteverything.net)

:lol:

BINGO folks!

Looks like somebody already fixed up (updated) the whois record for Amkon.info in the last 24 hrs...but that is where I found some of the info.

Thanks for being a good sport about it Pack...and as you have said YOU were the one who put the info out there in the first place.


I can't believe he actually registered "boycotteverything.net"... :lol:

[pack3tg0st]

:lol:

BINGO folks!

Looks like somebody already fixed up (updated) the whois record for Amkon.info in the last 24 hrs...but that is where I found some of the info.

Thanks for being a good sport about it Pack...and as you have said YOU were the one who put the info out there in the first place.


I can't believe he actually registered "boycotteverything.net"... :lol:
Hrm?

I haven't updated that... hell, I'd be hard pressed to rememer the password...

[Paroxysm]

Well, since it's out there anyways....here's the cache from earlier (god I love google cache):
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:3-rirF4adtUJ:cqcounter.com/whois/domain/amkon.info.html+pack3tg0st+kalamazoo&cd=6&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us


And here's what we have updated as of 5/6/10:
http://who.godaddy.com/WhoIs.aspx?domain=amkon.info&prog_id=godaddy

[Trauma Teased]

Amkon does seem to have a sort of process of natural selection - when things get heated between two folks, even though there is no moderation per se, arguments often peter out to an iQuit.

Oh well, Pack's iQuit didn't last long.

[pack3tg0st]

odd... I haven't updated it...

If you check the URLjet whois it'll probably still be there.

[pack3tg0st]

Oh well, Pack's iQuit didn't last long.

Did you read the thread I wrote when I backed away?

Can you tell me how I'm not living up to what I stated in that thread?

[Paroxysm]

Pack, do you support Skunk going thru and censoring out the thread title on these threads, where we simply showed that we know how to use google and look up domain registration?

I for one, do not.

[Paroxysm]

Damn, it's f'n late. fukitol, i'm going to bed.

See you all on the flipside.

[pack3tg0st]

meh, I'm indifferent.

I'd only care if you manage to stumble on the name I use in the other websites I do and the Open Source community... But I've put safegaurds in place for that... (you'll never figure it out without help).

I did just realize that the DNS changes on the 5th might have something to do with the whois being updated though...

[Trauma Teased]

Did you read the thread I wrote when I backed away?

Can you tell me how I'm not living up to what I stated in that thread?

I was simply stating a fact. And you are not the only one who has done a short term iQuit either. Jack made one too recently, as I recall.

I have sent you a PM, by the way.

[Paroxysm]

I did just realize that the DNS changes on the 5th might have something to do with the whois being updated though...

Interesting. Looks like the same thing happened to all of your registrant info for AmKon.mobi as well.

[pack3tg0st]

Interesting. Looks like the same thing happened to all of your registrant info for AmKon.mobi as well.

They're both on URLjet... so maybe its a standard thing...

I think amkon.net is also using URLjet for DNS.. same thing happen there too?

[Paroxysm]

Nah, that one looks like it's been set up thru "Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc." and hasn't changed. Still lists that PO box in Bellevue, WA.


Why would you safeguard your personal info via "Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc." with AmKon.net, but not the others?

[pack3tg0st]

I was simply stating a fact. And you are not the only one who has done a short term iQuit either. Jack made one too recently, as I recall.

I have sent you a PM, by the way.

I'd re-read that post I made. I think you still don't 'get it'

[pack3tg0st]

Nah, that one looks like it's been set up thru "Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc." and hasn't changed. Still lists that PO box in Bellevue, WA.

hahaha Skunk must be paranoid lol

Meh, its nothing I did, it must have something to do with the DNS stuff from the other day...

I'll have to see if the same shit happened across all of my domains. The amkon ones are the only ones I have on URLjet I think.

[pack3tg0st]

Why would you safeguard your personal info via "Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc." with AmKon.net, but not the others?

Amkon.net isn't mine... It was Jasn's... and changed hands over to Skunk back in sept/oct of last year.

[Trauma Teased]

I'd re-read that post I made. I think you still don't 'get it'

Trust me, there are a lot of things about you I don' get.

[Paroxysm]

Then why did YOU go around buying a bunch of other Amkon.xxx domains?

I might understand the .mobi...But I'm not sure that it's in use, although I know you were developing something mobile related for the site.

[pack3tg0st]

Then why did YOU go around buying a bunch of other Amkon.xxx domains?

I might understand the .mobi...But I'm not sure that it's in use, although I know you were developing something mobile related for the site.

The .info and .mobi domains were going to be in use at one time... I was working on mobile version of amkon (.mobi), and we'd thought about amkon.info being the Wiki.

I dunno... one day there was talk in the admin forums about getting em... so I told em i'd get em.

[Paroxysm]

Well that was sweet of you.


Soooooooooooooo...'Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.' = FTW??

[pack3tg0st]

Trust me, there are a lot of things about you I don' get.

Which probably means you're overthinking lol

[MissA]

Always interesting to wake up and see what you missed.

As I reread a lot of stuff I sort of had a revelation. (TT, sorry for the dissertation--you can skip it)

As Pack and Parox have pointed out this information can be had on the internet with a bit of searching unless the individual chose to protect themselves by using a fake name to register for email accounts, or not associating an address with your name when registering, or declining to be placed in "whois" when you register your domain.

Public records are sold to companies that collect data for PIs. Unless you also take steps to write that your information should not be given out to boy public records and various information data mining services, it will be.

But what does that mean anyway?

I started thinking about it. My neighbors know where I live. They know my exact street address. The students in my Latin class know where I live. If it didn't bother me that a bunch of horny teenage boys know where I live then why would it bother me if my address was posted on a forum?

I had to think about that one.

All of us who chat daily are friendly. Some of us are friends. Some of us have skyped out Russian lessons ( hi Ducky). Some of us have shared intimate details of our lives...so what's in an address?

I am now about to argue: nothing.

It is a phantom fear.

What we should be concerned about is the courtesy factor. Friends are courteous to each other. Posting public information is not courteous in this context. It is not, however, evil as that information is purely accessible.

People who were angry or affronted probably if they dug deep know this. The information is out there. People just moved it from some other pile to this one. In fact as people's net handles are used repeatedly, it is not even a hard task to go from Facebook to MySpace to Twitter to ATS to here. You don't even have to move the pile of information. You can visit it with a link. Which, had Pack done that or had Parox done that...no one would have been shittin' kittins.

If people really cared about other people knowing their stuff they simply would take the time to make sure it is not out there.We all know that we are accessible. We know we have said "too much" at times. We did it anyway because the Internet is actually RL.

Yes, I said it. Real. Life.

We have made real life friends. We also made RL acquaintances. Many of us, as TT showed, would help each other real life in a pinch. Parox and Tracer helped me RL. TT helped Jack RL.

This isn't your older brother's Internet. This is Web 2.0. You are all my "neighbors". Some of my neighbors have been to my house. Some just drive by.

I want to conclude my dissertation with this thought.

When BE's pic, IEF's various "female friends" pics, Royal's "female friends" pics were posted...I made a point to show that I felt it was in poor taste. A few others did, but in general eyelashes were not batted. In the case of IEF and Royal, I believe this is because no one knew those girls. When I said weeks back that this would happen to me, I had endless sympathy from everyone. Poor Mojo spent countless PMs telling me it would all be okay.

People felt my humiliation. It wasn't that my ex took the picture with me not looking. I'm smiling all happy into the camera. It is the courtesy that would be breached were he to post it.

Pack and Parox didn't do anything scary by posting the information that was already out there anymore than the nosy neighbor down the street is being scary when he tells the other neighbors: someone just moved into the Jone's old house. I hear they got two kids.

It was not a breach of trust. Because you trusted the Internet with your information and that's a bunch of strangers, which in a sense we are all not.

It was a collapse of polite niceties and common courtesy. NO DIFFERENT, even to an extent, less severe than when people post the pictures of their ex gfs in compromising positions or posting a pic to say: I slept with her.

We are a virtual neighborhood. We need to remember to be polite to our co-posters. We need to remember that if our dog takes a crap on their lawn that we should apologize and bring them a bottle of wine or a dozen cookies.

[hp]

This is the very reason some people don't post very crude stuff and make a total asshats of them self out here. People for what ever future reason, can find it. Although it will make not difference in most cases there may just be that one case in life when it bites back.

[mur]

Are you proud of yourselves? Does it make you happy to post other people's addresses, names, what have you?

Is this improving the quality of AmKon?

Or have we become what we hate.

This harassment MUST stop. I am seriously considering renaming all the threads with addresses in it, this shit is beyond fucked.

This is a website on the fucking internet. Is it really worth potentially ruining someone else's life over petty bullcrap?

Grow the fuck up.


I would support those threads being deleted

[MissA]

This is the very reason some people don't post very crude stuff and make a total asshats of them self out here. People for what ever future reason, can find it. Although it will make not difference in most cases there may just be that one case in life when it bites back.

Yep.

It wasn't the information because we made choices that put that information out there, be it registering a website, going on Facebook or Myspace, Tweeting, etc.

Had they linked to it instead of posted it the reaction would be different.

It was the courtesy factor of how the information was presented--the "I gotcha". Honestly, putting up pics of exes is worse but other than a few people grumbling it goes without saying.

I complained about the pics being altered (both Anarchs and BEs). I complained about the girl's pics being put up because I'm sure they didn't expect to have private photos on Amkon.

It is courtesy that should prevent stuff. Or else we turn into that neighbor whose house gets egged on Halloween.

[guinnessford]

Real men don't post other people's info, they post their own.

:twisted:


Living up to the image I have of you.

I had to have it all explained to me, so Im not gonna pretend like I knew what was going on here...

[MissA]

If I hadn't gone out this morning and saw a bunch of former students drive by and wave...I might have held the same opinion I had yesterday.

"Real men" did post their own information. Just not on this website. Someone picked it up and moved it.

This issue is not about whether or not we "out" ourselves. Obviously, Packs and BEs info is out there--probably all of ours is.

It was the context. Had BEs or Packs info had been posted because they were sick and we should send a card...not a eyelash would have been batted.

Back to courtesy... this was just another breach of polite niceties. Just as calling each other names is, just as posting pics of people we once were intimate with is, etc.

Is one breach worse than the next?

Maybe if this bothered us so much we ought to choose in each and every circumstance the polite path.

[guinnessford]

Hopefully that may happen next time, A.

I relly like to fight when Im drunk, or buzzed, sometimes when Im sober.....but It takes alot.

And thats the physical realm, not pushing butons.

I go out of my way on the tubez and in real life to accomodate and avoid altercations, but they happen.

Leave it behind and go forward.

[Eyeforalie]

And no, my adress has not been posted. Yet. But I better be damn careful so a certain person don't get pissed off. With him being so proud of his ability to mess with people's computers and hack into everything he wants to.

If it has your name I can find where you live. Lots of people can fuck-up your computer, like me. Dont piss anyone off. I've been hacked. It sucked. I pissed off a whole board of people though. I deserved it. But yes, if your email has your name, your address could be found out by ANYONE.

[century]

Seriously ?
4WcuYafh1ek

[Trauma Teased]

If it has your name I can find where you live. Lots of people can fuck-up your computer, like me. Dont piss anyone off. I've been hacked. It sucked. I pissed off a whole board of people though. I deserved it. But yes, if your email has your name, your address could be found out by ANYONE.

I know you can find out where I live if you have my name, Eye, I may be a techno idiot, but I'm not THAT stoopid.
:D

The email adress I used to sign up here at AmKon, does however not have my name.

And honestly, you are telling me I can't piss people off, I can't speak my mind, because then people somehow have the right to hack my computer?

Do you think threats like this is OK? This is what Pack and Hazel posted yesterday at HoaxMasters after I had made fun of AmKon's self appointed pussycat:

http://amkon.net/picture.php?albumid=34&pictureid=342
http://www.hoaxmasters.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=115&start=110

(Edit to add that I am "Ginger" at HoaxMasters. Because Chorlton said he would ban you for being French. Or ginger. :D )

[pack3tg0st]

And honestly, you are telling me I can't piss people off, I can't speak my mind, because then people somehow have the right to hack my computer?

LOL you really don't understand what hacking is do you...


Do you think threats like this is OK? This is what Pack and Hazel posted yesterday at HoaxMasters after I had made fun of AmKon's self appointed pussycat:

And I stand by my assessment... If you took that as a threat, than you're one of the people who act completely different online then you do in real life. You fear having your online identity and your real identity ever meeting... I'm not talking the standard privacy concern...

If you took that as a threat, I'm talking real life, irrational fear...

Your belief that you think thats a threat speaks more about you than you realize.


(Edit to add that I am "Ginger" at HoaxMasters. Because Chorlton said he would ban you for being French. Or ginger. :D )

Or anyone he can't control :D

And isn't it ironic he's hosted on a French IP?

[MrPenny]

Pack clearly posted an oblique threat in an effort to intimidate TT.

"Shut the fuck up, or I'll plaster your address, phone number, Google street views, Google maps.....whatever I can dig up, right here on a forum."

I'm sure you know the old saying...."one bad apple" and all that?

This pile of apples is bad.

I'll just lurk from now on.

[pack3tg0st]

Pack clearly posted an oblique threat in an effort to intimidate TT.

hahaha no... did you read the context? I wasn't even talking to TT.

Chorlton might have deleted part of it... I haven't looked.

We were talking about people having balls behind anonymity.

Like I said in the thread... I have no reason to threaten... If I felt like it, I'd just post it...

DId you also see where I said (probably a post or two after the one she posted), that I wouldn't do anything like that unless shit gets outta hand... like it did with BE?

[Trauma Teased]

hahaha no... did you read the context? I wasn't even talking to TT.



Please do not lie to me and the other members of AmKon. People here are not stupid enough for that kind of game. You and Hazel were talking to each other about "Ginger". Ginger is TT. I am Ginger over at HoaxMasters.

Everyone except you seem to understand that what you and Hazel posted was a CLEAR threat towards me. And this time you can not claim that it was because of BE or Parox or law suits or anything like that. You posted this CLEAR threat against me to shut me up, simply because I had pissed Hazel off by making fun of her.

Do you really not understand that this kind of behaviour will make people stop posting here at AmKon or any other forum where you make these kind of threats? Do you not realize that your threats and intimidation will drive people away from AmKon and scare new members from joining up?

[pack3tg0st]

Please do not lie to me and the other members of AmKon. People here are not stupid enough for that kind of game. You and Hazel were talking to each other about "Ginger". Ginger is TT. I am Ginger over at HoaxMasters.

Hahahaha ok, I reserve the right to publish the PMs from earlier in the event you decide you want to persist in your deception.

I know you are Ginger at HM, and you know I knew that...

ahhaha you're funny. is BE whispering in your ear again? :D


Everyone except you seem to understand that what you and Hazel posted was a CLEAR threat towards me. And this time you can not claim that it was because of BE or Parox or law suits or anything like that. You posted this CLEAR threat against me to shut me up, simply because I had pissed Hazel off by making fun of her.

Thats funny... Everyone eh? I'm talking to two people right now who are laughing at you. yes, they are amkon members.

If its a threat... a 'CLEAR threat' then enough talk. Report it... want the number to my ISP? Or perhaps you're just full of shit again :D wouldn't be the first time really.


Do you really not understand that this kind of behaviour will make people stop posting here at AmKon or any other forum where you make these kind of threats? Do you not realize that your threats and intimidation will drive people away from AmKon and scare new members from joining up?

LOL do you really not understannd that is precisely what BE's behavoir did? Wanna know a little secret? since BE quit, Amkon's traffic is up over 29%...

Go on back to HM and your leper messiah (BE).

[Pam]

Whatever happened to just being nice?

Jabs at people are usually meant just in fun, it is when then are misinterpreted that all shit breaks out. If I had taken many of the criticisms tossed my way over the years seriously, I would be a basket case by now.

I take everything with grain of salt. Just gotta let shit slide, its easy really, most of the things in our lives are not serious, that's not to say everything is rosy, people die, people get hurt, people suffer personal downfalls, just gotta dust off and move on, it is all part of living.

Why can't people step back from confrontations? I usually try and see both sides of a disagreement, try to imagine myself in the other persons place. What is wrong with agreeing to disagree?

Just saying :cool:

[pack3tg0st]

Being nice went out the window when BE persisted in attempting to destroy skunk at the expense of this community.

[GeneralStriker]

I have been whispering in nobodies ear. Lets just face the facts here Pack in amoral and quite obviously evil. Those who get involved with such people risk having their details plastered all over the internet.

[Trauma Teased]

Hahahaha ok, I reserve the right to publish the PMs from earlier in the event you decide you want to persist in your deception.



Now you are making MORE threats against me? I call you out on your behaviour, and you threaten to post private PM`s? I can not believe how shameless you are.

And yes, I am a member of HoaxMasters too. I happen to like both BE and Chorlton. I post at HoaxMasters anytime I want to. I post here too, anytime I want to, as long as I am not banned.

To people reading: I told Pack in the PM that I had donated to AmKon a couple of times through PayPay. and that I had used my son's PayPal account because I don't have one of my own. I was worried that Pack would have access to personal info about my son and post it in public. I also told him that there is a person who has threatened both me and my children, and that I do not want that person to find me here.

[Pam]

Being nice went out the window when BE persisted in attempting to destroy skunk at the expense of this community.

I totally agree that if that was in fact done, it was pretty shitty, but the facts of what was posted here was clearly not what Skunk was accused of so it probably would have turned on him in the end for making a false accusation.

I would have handled the initial reaction to the original post and the misunderstanding that BE had in a different way that would never have allowed the situation to get out of hand as it did. If I had been an Admin, I would have immediately locked the thread "temporarily", blocked BE from posting "temporarily" and explained it via private discussion until it was sorted and understood.

It is these fights out in the open that are silly really, I have sat back quietly and watched the arguments play out and can see why both sides are upset. Each feels they are right in their opinions and interpretations of things.

This is where you need to impose the "lets agree to disagree" method and move on.

[pack3tg0st]

I have been whispering in nobodies ear. Lets just face the facts here Pack in amoral and quite obviously evil. Those who get involved with such people risk having their details plastered all over the internet.

hahaha couldn't stay away could ya...

enjoy.

ubHDLxIY3BI

[Trauma Teased]

Being nice went out the window when BE persisted in attempting to destroy skunk at the expense of this community.

So from now on you think you have the right to post info about anyone, there are no limits? Everyone should be very, very afraid of you and be very, very careful what they say to you or your friends, simply because you had a conflict with BE? Everyone, also people who had NOTHING to do with what happened are fair game to you, is that it?

The person destroying AmKon is YOU, Pack.

[pack3tg0st]

Now you are making MORE threats against me? I call you out on your behaviour, and you threaten to post private PM`s? I can not believe how shameless you are.

Nope, how is that a threat?

Jesus fuck you're tedious to deal with.

Ok.. you're right... be paranoid... be very paranoid...

I'm the boogieman hiding under your bed...

booga booga.


And yes, I am a member of HoaxMasters too. I happen to like both BE and Chorlton. I post at HoaxMasters anytime I want to. I post here too, anytime I want to, as long as I am not banned.

Oh yah, thats right, You said you'd be outta here (or something to that effect) if you were banned from a thread eh?

/ignore :D


To people reading: I told Pack in the PM that I had donated to AmKon a couple of times through PayPay. and that I had used my son's PayPal account because I don't have one of my own. I was worried that Pack would have access to personal info about my son and post it in public. I also told him that there is a person who has threatened both me and my children, and that I do not want that person to find me here.

I think what was more important was the context of my responses, and the fact you now damn well that isn't a threat... yet you persist in your mental delusions... Much like BE and Chorlton....

Remember, Chorlton thinks if Snow isn't censored, that he is the onen being censored (circular reasoning FTW)

BE thinks he's god's gift to everyone...

Have you taken your oath of fealty to BE yet? better get on that...

Disagree with him, and you're the worst person in the world.

[supermod]

Reunions are always nice.

[Gunter]

hahaha couldn't stay away could ya...

enjoy.

ubHDLxIY3BI


Typical of you Pack, divert the topic away from your own wrong doings.

Same as when Skunk posted child pornography and I was made the bad guy and attacked by you for pointing it out.

[Trauma Teased]

Oh yah, thats right, You said you'd be outta here (or something to that effect) if you were banned from a thread eh?



I am not a big fan of the ignore button, but no, I have never said I would leave if I was banned from a thread.

[pack3tg0st]

So from now on you think you have the right to post info about anyone, there are no limits? Everyone should be very, very afraid of you and be very, very careful what they say to you or your friends, simply because you had a conflict with BE? Everyone, also people who had NOTHING to do with what happened are fair game to you, is that it?

hahaha you STILLdon't get it do ya...


The person destroying AmKon is YOU, Pack.

Amkon destroyed itself a long time ago, thanks to BE... I've been warning people about it for nearly a year now I think.

[pack3tg0st]

Typical of you Pack, divert the topic away from your own wrong doings.

Same as when Skunk posted child pornography and I was made the bad guy and attacked by you for pointing it out.

I think you should listen to the content...

Remember when I posted the ball was in your court? It was... and you just passed it back... Thanks! (actually, Chorlton might have deleted that comment from HM... so you might have missed it.)

[Trauma Teased]

hahaha you STILLdon't get it do ya...

Amkon destroyed itself a long time ago, thanks to BE... I've been warning people about it for nearly a year now I think.

Oh, I get it. People are laughing at me, you are talking to two AmKon members right now who are laughing at me, right? If I countinue confronting you, you will post privat PMs I sent you, right?

I hear you loud and clear. You are simply continuing the intimidation. Well, people can laugh at me all they want. And I have already posted what I told you in the PMs.

[Pam]

So from now on you think you have the right to post info about anyone, there are no limits? Everyone should be very, very afraid of you and be very, very careful what they say to you or your friends, simply because you had a conflict with BE? Everyone, also people who had NOTHING to do with what happened are fair game to you, is that it?

The person destroying AmKon is YOU, Pack.

I think what he is saying is, when BE (if he truly did??) reported Skunk to the authorities for "supposedly" posting child pron, that meant that the authorities would have to investigate "this" forum and "all" the posters on this forum.

The threat that caused Pack's reaction, was a serious threat and affected more than just Skunk but also the possibility of others and the possibility of having this forum shut down.

That fear and anger that Pack had was handled in a way that he knew best himself to deal with at that moment. Whether anyone agrees or disagrees with him is irrelevant. He dealt with it the way "he" thought was right, at the moment of his anger.

Many people are capable of doing what Pack did, do I think it is right? No! But like he said, he only posted what is available to anyone online, you wouldn't have to be l33t to find it.

But this is where I think things need to be handled differently. If someone has a gripe with someone else, why can't it be dealt with, with that person privately, via PM's and sorted out that way, instead of doing it in the open where people are looking for others to side and agree with them.

To me, "my opinion" does not require me to have others agree with me.

Hope this made sense :-)

[Trauma Teased]

Hope this made sense :-)

It does. I understand what you are saying, and it makes sense. But the fact still remains that Pack has tried to intimidate me to shut up, and I was not involved in the conflict with BE at all. That means that everyone who pisses him off in one way or another is fair game in his mind, and that WILL scare people away from posting here.

And now it's my turn to hope this made sense.
:)

[pack3tg0st]

Oh, I get it. People are laughing at me,

Yes.


you are talking to two AmKon members right now who are laughing at me, right?

No, actually I have 3 IMs open... and am about to open one with BK to ask him a non-amkon question... so 4 of em here in a min...

but out of 3 IMs, one is indifferent, so you only have 2 laughing...


If I countinue confronting you, you will post privat PMs I sent you, right?

No, I said continuing down your path of deception... i.e. telling everyone that you think I threatened you, when I clearly explained that I didn't earlier in PM.


I hear you loud and clear. You are simply continuing the intimidation. Well, people can laugh at me all they want. And I have already posted what I told you in the PMs.

hahaha well, if you'd really like me to, just ask and I'll see about starting in with the intimidation and threats...

Honestly, You're boring to me... I have no reason to threaten or intimidate you... it just wouldn't be fun...

[Pam]

Say hi to BK, I miss him posting here, he is a very wise man :D

[Trauma Teased]

hahaha well, if you'd really like me to, just ask and I'll see about starting in with the intimidation and threats...



Right, trying to intimidate me and shut me up for the third time. OK, I get it.

[Pam]

Right, trying to intimidate me and shut me up for the third time. OK, I get it.

I don't think he wants you to shut up, nor do I think he is trying to intimidate you, nor do I think he would ever follow through on any threats.

Sometimes dogs chase their tails, and they spin round and round and never catch it.

Eventually they figure it out and move on, but some dogs keep trying again later with the same results. Its the circle game.

Sorry, had to throw that analogy in there but this is how I have seen this whole argument from the outside staring in, it just goes round and round with no ending.

:popcorn:

[supermod]

Say hi tp Chor

[pack3tg0st]

It's interesting that someone is now posting in my name over there. I did not make either of the posts. In fact I tried to log in to explain that and I was greeted with this screen:

You have entered an invalid username or password. Please press the back button, enter the correct details and try again. Don't forget that the password is case sensitive. Forgotten your password? Click here!

You have used 2 out of 5 login attempts. After all 5 have been used, you will be unable to login for 15 minutes.
So it seems I'm banned. No great surprise. They now have control of my account and will post what they will in my name. As far as I'm concerned the drama is over- but apparently some unknown member wishes to keep it going.

Benefit of the doubt BE...

<---enters holding pattern

[pack3tg0st]

Although... he did lie about being banned before...

and he lied about kiddie pr0n...

and he lied about reporting amkon to the Attorney General...

He's probably lying about this shit too.

[Trauma Teased]

Say hi tp Chor

I am not sure, but are you asking me to say hi to Chorlton? Or are you taking to someone else about something completely else, lol?

[pack3tg0st]

Right, trying to intimidate me and shut me up for the third time. OK, I get it.

you're fuckin' dense.

I don't know if this is a threat or not... or more of a revelation about me:

When people accuse me of trivial nonsense over and over and over and over again... I'll usually go ahead and do what they're accusing me of...

I mean.. If i'm going to be persecuted for a crime... I might as well have committed the crime right?

[supermod]

Do track records count on the internet.

[TracerBullet]

And you posted personal information of people who did nothing wrong.

I have never lied. Not once.


Although... he did lie about being banned before...

and he lied about kiddie pr0n...

and he lied about reporting amkon to the Attorney General...

He's probably lying about this shit too.

[supermod]

Is it a righteous fight or a fear of knowledge and the will to use it.

[pack3tg0st]

And you posted personal information of people who did nothing wrong.

I have never lied. Not once.

Horse shit. I only posted info about BE... who did indeed take things too far.

I've never accused you of lying though... guilty conscience?

[TracerBullet]

:mad:

[TracerBullet]

I got a PM from Generalstriker saying you accused me of telling lies in all this.

I hate this shit. I don't understand what anyone is going on about.

[supermod]

Hahahaha. Could it get better.

[pack3tg0st]

Well, fuck general striker and the horse he rode last night.

Did he say where?

[TracerBullet]

No it just said "You do realize Pack is telling people you are a liar for being on both sides of the argument in private".

I presume he means the whole skunk cp thing. Which let me make it clear I was dead against BE for, I have said nothing different.

[Pam]

No it just said "You do realize Pack is telling people you are a liar for being on both sides of the argument in private".

I presume he means the whole skunk cp thing. Which let me make it clear I was dead against BE for, I have said nothing different.

Weird, wonder the true age of BE, perhaps he really isn't an adult and those are other people's pictures.

LOL, why would someone bring others into their problems/fights?

This whole thing is so childish that it is actually kind of funny.

Now I am wondering if it really isn't some kind of a "hoax", for the entertainment factor.

The whole thing is bizzaro!

[supermod]

So the chatroulette thread may not have been far off?

[GeneralStriker]

Trace it is simple if you trust pack you are going to end up regretting it. He is amoral and evil.

[mur]

Trace it is simple if you trust pack you are going to end up regretting it. He is amoral and evil.


By that same rationale, so are many that post here...perhaps even you?

[MissA]

You posted this CLEAR threat against me to shut me up, simply because I had pissed Hazel off by making fun of her.

People who make fun of other people in such a manner oughtn't talk about courtesy from a high horse. Let someone who is always polite like Mr Penny handle the moral outrage.

As for Tracer,

people should leave him out of it. He minds his own fucking business. He never says a word bad about anyone. He is a good goddamn person. So piss off on anyone who says or does something to hurt him.

This is so ridiculous.

[TracerBullet]

Well, I have not posted here in a while. Not really big on the whole drama thing, kind of boring if you ask me.

Pack, sorry for taking the word of somebody without checking out what was going on.

BE/GeneralStriker, whatever, I don't know what is going on and don't really care. If you were trustworthy you wouldn't need so many socks.

I don't know what I did to get dragged into all this shit but yeah, I am done. iQuit.

[Pam]

To trust anyone completely without at least having met them in person and known them for a long time is insane, and even then, someone you think you can trust, turns on you, as has been displayed in relationship breakups over and over again.

Trust no one and carry a big stick :stick:

[TracerBullet]

I agree. Trust nobody.

[supermod]

Real trust isn't thrown around lightly. The world proves that day in and day out.

[Pam]

Real trust isn't thrown around lightly. The world proves that day in and day out.

The only one I can truly trust is my dog, he never repeats anything I tell him and he is always happy to see me no matter what kind of mood I am in.

If only life was that way for everyone.

[Trauma Teased]

People who make fun of other people in such a manner oughtn't talk about courtesy from a high horse. Let someone who is always polite like Mr Penny handle the moral outrage.



MissA, sometimes things may have a prior history you are not aware of. Just saying. Hazel and I have had confrontations before, there is a reason we don't get along very well.

And I am have not mentioned the word "courtesy" in ANY of my posts in this thread. You really must stop making claims that are not true. I am talking about making threats, threats about posting personal information in public. I think that is a little more serious than just having bad manners.

[pack3tg0st]

I'm wondering who has the ability to change userames... and how they're pulling it off...

[MissA]

MissA, sometimes things may have a prior history you are not aware of. Just saying. Hazel and I have had confrontations before, there is a reason we don't get along very well.

And I am have not mentioned the word "courtesy" in ANY of my posts in this thread. You really must stop making claims that are not true. I am talking about making threats, threats about posting personal information in public. I think that is a little more serious than just having bad manners.

No, I mentioned courtesy because the lack thereof is really why people are angry.

That "personal info" is on the Internet already. It is public already. It is just not on the particular sites you are posting on. Moving it to a different site is bad manners.

Hacking into your computer to get it and posting it then would be a grave violation and against the law.

Making asshole photos out of peoples pics is bad manners. Posting pics of your conquests is bad manners.

This whole goddamn site is like a preschool.

WHY CAN'T ANYONE BE NICE!

[Pam]

I'm wondering who has the ability to change userames... and how they're pulling it off...

Here?

Don't you, or did you step down as an Admin?

If you did, then it would only be Admins, so whoever has that capability now would be the ones to be concerned about.

Like I said earlier..... trust no one!

[MissA]

I mean, why can't 80% of the people be nice.

[Trauma Teased]

I'm wondering who has the ability to change userames... and how they're pulling it off...

I am wondering about that too... I have received PMs from someone who probably is not who I thought they were.

Jesus. This place is getting too weird for me. To be honest AmKon just freaks me out now, and it makes me really sad. I liked this place very much, liked some of the people here, the atmosphere, the craziness, the fun...

Now it's just creepy to be here.
:(

[Pam]

.........

WHY CAN'T ANYONE BE NICE!


I am nice :D

You are nice :D

Hazel is nice :D

lala is super nice :D

Alessandra is nice :D

Ducky is nice :D

Fancy Free is nice :D

TT is nice :D

An argument or disagreement with someone doesn't mean someone is not nice.

I didn't mean to miss anyone, just thought example was shown enough with those listed.

[MissA]

I am nice :D

You are nice :D

Hazel is nice :D

lala is super nice :D

Alessandra is nice :D

Ducky is nice :D

Fancy Free is nice :D

TT is nice :D

An argument or disagreement with someone doesn't mean someone is not nice.

I didn't mean to miss anyone, just thought example was shown enough with those listed.

I amended and said 80% ;)

I also said "be nice"...we are all nice, actually. :)

[mur]

I'm nice

[pack3tg0st]

I'm not very nice.

[MissA]

I'm nice


You are nice, Mur.

[Trauma Teased]

I'm not very nice.

We know.
:D

[Pam]

I'm not very nice.


Oh yes you are, you have helped me on many occasions with Computer stuff and my XBox questions so don't be saying you aren't nice Mr. Nice Guy!!!

So adding to the list:

Pack is nice :D

Mur is nice :D

Skunk is nice :D

etc...

I think MissA is right, probably 80% are nice.

[Pam]

Okay, looks like my job is done in this thread, it has been successfully derailed :D

Off to have a shower and then head out to enjoy some sunshine.

[guinnessford]

I feel left out.
Fukk you, there I'm not nice

[guinnessford]

I feel left out.
Fukk you, there I'm not nice

[egg]

I feel left out.
Fukk you, there I'm not nice

Actually, man. You seem like a pretty nice guy. You poor bastard. ;)

[egg]

I am wondering about that too... I have received PMs from someone who probably is not who I thought they were.

Jesus. This place is getting too weird for me. To be honest AmKon just freaks me out now, and it makes me really sad. I liked this place very much, liked some of the people here, the atmosphere, the craziness, the fun...

Now it's just creepy to be here.
:(

Agreed.

[hp]

Guess someone has the be the focus negative flow. Who just varies,

[Royal]

I'm nice.

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t30/805863078/002fb6zp.gif

[Pam]

Oh, I just knew I would start a new drama if I left anyone out:

Guinnessford is nice :D

Egg is really nice :D

WITD is nice :D

hp is nice :D

BK is nice :D

torbjon is nice :D

anyone that has been missed, just let me know and I will edit accordingly.

Now.....

Royal, you have not been a nice boy lately, you need to go back and read your Buddha book from the beginning.

You can come back when you decide to be nice again. :moon:

[Royal]

Royal, you have not been a nice boy lately, you need to go back and read your Buddha book from the beginning.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v679/nymetsparrot31/archiecry.gif

[Pam]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v679/nymetsparrot31/archiecry.gif

Oh man, I am sorry, I didn't mean to make you cry!

Okay, I will add you to the nice list once you have demonstrated that you will be a good boy!

[egg]

Pack clearly posted an oblique threat in an effort to intimidate TT.

"Shut the fuck up, or I'll plaster your address, phone number, Google street views, Google maps.....whatever I can dig up, right here on a forum."

I'm sure you know the old saying...."one bad apple" and all that?

This pile of apples is bad.

I'll just lurk from now on.

Unfortunately, whoever is doing this shit has driven off both MrP and Tracer, two guys that I like. This sucks.
Thanks for ruining other peoples' good times.

[hp]

Who posted addresses is clearly identified by the username in the post.

[Paroxysm]

Making asshole photos out of peoples pics is bad manners. Posting pics of your conquests is bad manners.

Would it be considered bad manners if I had called your Ex and convinced him to send me these supposed compromising photos of you?


Jus curious...

[Royal]

I think everyone needs balance:

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t30/805863078/balance.jpg

[Pam]

I think everyone needs balance:


You are not making this easy Royal!

[Royal]

You are not making this easy Royal!

I stop, I stop.

[captainkiwi]

Oh, I just knew I would start a new drama if I left anyone out:

Guinnessford is nice :D

Egg is really nice :D

WITD is nice :D

hp is nice :D

BK is nice :D

torbjon is nice :D

anyone that has been missed, just let me know and I will edit accordingly.

Now.....

Royal, you have not been a nice boy lately, you need to go back and read your Buddha book from the beginning.

You can come back when you decide to be nice again. :moon:
what about me

[skunk]

Pack, do you support Skunk going thru and censoring out the thread title on these threads, where we simply showed that we know how to use google and look up domain registration?

I for one, do not.

Don't worry, I'm not going to do that.

BE's information is online...

http://whois.domaintools.com/boycotteverything.net

Should have used a fake address or gotten a whois protection service if he was so worried.

You can find just about anything and everything on the net.

[skunk]

Pack clearly posted an oblique threat in an effort to intimidate TT.

"Shut the fuck up, or I'll plaster your address, phone number, Google street views, Google maps.....whatever I can dig up, right here on a forum."

I'm sure you know the old saying...."one bad apple" and all that?

This pile of apples is bad.

I'll just lurk from now on.

I can't seem to find anything mentioning that at all. I must be blind and retarded.

[skunk]

Here?

Don't you, or did you step down as an Admin?

If you did, then it would only be Admins, so whoever has that capability now would be the ones to be concerned about.

Like I said earlier..... trust no one!

The logs would point to someone changing usernames, and there doesn't seem to be any record of anyone doing that...

[Trauma Teased]

I can't seem to find anything mentioning that at all. I must be blind and retarded.

It happened over at HM, Skunk.

[skunk]

I read the posts over there and I still can't seem to find any threats.

If he was going to post your address (who says he even has it?) he would have done so already.

The way he found out BE's address was by running a whois, which will typically tell you who owns a particular website.

There was no hacking involved. Any tech noob can whois a website.

[Chorlton]

Someone changed BE's Passwords and GS's email address here didnt they Skunk

[skunk]

Looks like all of his accounts have been changed, but again, no record in the control panel so it doesn't look like an admin did this.

Someone was able to sniff his passwords, and login to his accounts, and then change the password/email after they had logged on.

[Chorlton]

Looks like all of his accounts have been changed, but again, no record in the control panel so it doesn't look like an admin did this.

Someone was able to sniff his passwords, and login to his accounts, and then change the password/email after they had logged on.
Which is exactly the same thing they did at HM and RU

[skunk]

And that's why you think pack did it? Because BE pissed no one else off during his tenure on the internet? Please, he's made more enemies than friends.

[WhispersInTheDark]

Just out of interest, and not in any way suggesting this as a hypothesis with any basis... but given past performances, why is the prime suspect not the prophet Himself - is it because of evidence that account/password changes were by another hand?

[WhispersInTheDark]

Or... could this have happened to BE (PBUH) once before, before his eigththth resurrection?

[Chorlton]

And that's why you think pack did it? Because BE pissed no one else off during his tenure on the internet? Please, he's made more enemies than friends.

No and I explained to you why Im sure Pack did it.

If he didnt do it why didnt he simply email me saying it wasnt him right from the start. That would have raised suspicions someone was hacking.
But his posts at HM and RU were nothing more than the carry over of his peeve with BE from here to HM.
It would have been very simple for him to email when he was made aware on this forum that something was going on using his name at HM and RU yet he said nothing

He still says nothing

Aint life strange ?

[Alessandra]

And that's why you think pack did it? Because BE pissed no one else off during his tenure on the internet? Please, he's made more enemies than friends.

Exactly.

[skunk]

No I don't think its particularly strange at all. I wouldn't respond to such allegations.

[hp]

I would guess he doesn't care one way or the other so nothing said.

[skunk]

Anyway, I gotta get going. I hope things settle down before I'm back.

[Chorlton]

I certainly DO think he would have got in touch with me
We were quite friendly before all this blew up, and I dont think he would like his name associated with what has been going on that has been hurtfull to people if it wasnt him

[WhispersInTheDark]

bon voyage, skunk

[skunk]

I am wondering about that too... I have received PMs from someone who probably is not who I thought they were.

Jesus. This place is getting too weird for me. To be honest AmKon just freaks me out now, and it makes me really sad. I liked this place very much, liked some of the people here, the atmosphere, the craziness, the fun...

Now it's just creepy to be here.
:(

Let me get this straight for everyone.

Only ONE PERSON'S account has been compromised, and that is boycotteverything (well his socks too I guess).

There is no reason to believe anyone else's accounts will be messed with in the future.

If you are worried, change your password to something with letters and numbers in it, and make sure it is at least 8 characters long.

I repeat:

NO ONE OTHER THAN BE HAS HAD THEIR ACCOUNT HACKED.

NO ONE'S BANK ACCOUNT HAS BEEN HACKED.

PLEASE DON'T SPREAD RUMORS IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

[guinnessford]

What fun would that be?

I think he just came here chasing Pack, and never had intentions of crashing us.

Im sure after Cog gave him the crash or GTFO, if it was handy....

[skunk]

He hacked us a few months ago GF.

[guinnessford]

But I guess if he wanted to crash the site, it woulda been ready and waiting.

[anarch]

Originally Posted by skunk http://amkon.net/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://amkon.net/showthread.php?p=407308#post407308)
Looks like all of his accounts have been changed, but again, no record in the control panel so it doesn't look like an admin did this.

Someone was able to sniff his passwords, and login to his accounts, and then change the password/email after they had logged on.



Which is exactly the same thing they did at HM and RU



So horay... This would be the smoking gun, the tell tell sign..

BEs account hacked on the right day

I know Pack protested his innocence... Maybe he is guilty and maybe not... I'm not in a position of power to judge...


BUT I CAN SAY... HP was postin g in this thread all day along with the rest of us...

His "Leaked" PMs are dated

Date : 2010-05-07 08:18

SO, HP would of known for most of this thread. .... and played along.

[theeindiee]

Yeah, it's sad that AmKon is basically done for. It was fun while it lasted, but I think the problem became that there's only so far that words can go. On that note, I apologize for any words people took to heart. I apologize for everyone, and so people should probably now just all head their own way and do something with the energy normally put into this website. It's over, and the "chairman" can usurp the website and talk to herself all she wants if skunk sells it. Not that there's anything wrong with that!

[Raptor Jesus]

Yeah, it's sad that AmKon is basically done for. It was fun while it lasted, but I think the problem became that there's only so far that words can go. On that note, I apologize for any words people took to heart. I apologize for everyone, and so people should probably now just all head their own way and do something with the energy normally put into this website. It's over, and the "chairman" can usurp the website and talk to herself all she wants if skunk sells it. Not that there's anything wrong with that!

People have predicted the death of Amkon a dozen times since even I've been here. 80 per cent of Amkon rage quits return within 6 months. Those are us.gov figures. The predictions will never come true, the site will never die... it hasn't even begun to achieve 10 per cent of its full potential. These dramas and fights are all part of its learning process.

[Absolute]

Yeah, it's sad that AmKon is basically done for. It was fun while it lasted, but I think the problem became that there's only so far that words can go. On that note, I apologize for any words people took to heart. I apologize for everyone, and so people should probably now just all head their own way and do something with the energy normally put into this website. It's over, and the "chairman" can usurp the website and talk to herself all she wants if skunk sells it. Not that there's anything wrong with that!

So where do we go to now? I joined not too long ago and just started getting used to the place.

fuckitall

[anarch]

stick around...the best is yet to come.

[lala]

So where do we go to now? I joined not too long ago and just started getting used to the place.

fuckitall

Just wait for the rebirth . . . ha ha ha . . .I find them most enjoyable . . . ;) :p

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[anarch]

lol even penny joined.

You'll hate anyone won't you.

[BE2]

I detest lynch mobs.

[anarch]

Then why do you attempt to create and lead lynch mobs so often?

[BE2]

Who is in my mob?

[anarch]

Aside from you hoaxmaster playmates?

IDK who else is following on your coat tails at the dollhouse. And I don't care.

[BE2]

That's not very responsive, dullard. hahahaha

[anarch]

Their is no need to be. You're a liar and hypocrite. It was they way you were raised. You'll accuse anyone of anything with out regard. You'll betray anyone based on your own invented suspicions.

You're a bad person.

[MrPenny]

You're a bad person.

Hey, we've all got faults......but at least some of us aren't burdened with drooling idiocy.

[anarch]

Hey, we've all got faults......but at least some of us aren't burdened with drooling idiocy.


So whats your excuse for it?

[lala]

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[anarch]

Fuck no, I gave peace a chance once already...

Their is no twice for me.

Fuck em. He gets what he deserves,for kharma can be tough to endure.


But good on you lala for still trying.

[BE2]

You really think anyone takes a retarded ex con with a rife machine seriously? hahahaha

[anarch]

I don't think, I KNOW that I am taken more seriously then you are.

Unlike you, I don't trow iQuits on a regular basis.

[BE2]

You oughta try it. They're cathartic.

[anarch]

No thanks, I find your iQuit routine stupid and foolish. One need never make a big deal outta leaving. Just leave. No sad oh poor me letters, no rage tantrums, just get up and go.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

What's worse? Multiple iQuits or a neg repstalker? :lol:

[anarch]

the iQuiter

Rep don't really mean shit...it's neat and all but in the end it don't really mean shit.

[Red Skare]

zombie thread
If anything bad ever happened just blame pack, he is not here so fick him right? That is what I say i hate that piece of shit in the first place anyways. Come to think of it i don't even remember why anymore but rest assured he is a piece of shit.

[anarch]

oh theirs enough blame to go around.

If pack is guilty then HP is complicit in that guilt.

Although if Pack is guilty GOOD ON HIM

Fuck you BE.

[MrPenny]

Although if Pack is guilty GOOD ON HIM

It's "there's" you moron.

So, simply because you don't like BE, you would justify the actions of an admin that could not be trusted? You're stupider than shit anarch and I feel sorry for the people that have to deal with you on a face-to-face basis.

In just that statement alone you have put your judgment about any fucking thing in the world in the, "fuck him, he's an idiot" bucket. You're an idiot....always have been.....this is just icing on the cake.

[BE2]

This assklown gives a whole new flavor to stoopid.

[Red Skare]

well BE's address was already online for years. Go check out the megans law website

[Iamsix]

Although if Pack is guilty GOOD ON HIM

Really dude? Really??? I like you but this about the most stupid thing you have said. This is wrong on so many levels. Wrong is wrong. No matter who it happened to. What an assinine statement. My god this really has degraded to fourth grade shit hasnt it. Wait my fourth grader dosent even act this stupid.

[Red Skare]

god you guys are so easily butt hurt

[Ima Nasshole]

god you guys are so easily butt hurt

Sounds like somebody needs a robot...

[Iamsix]

Ohhh I am not butt hurt. I am just calling stupid stupid

[anarch]

LOL , I upset the apple cart.

Look yall in the land of digital anarchy the smartest pwns. Apparently if Pack did this he did it as grey hat and not as an admin...But that is still IF he did it...

Yall seem to be riding the wave of pack pack pack but aint shit being said about the first five pages...where HP played along. Assuming the PMs he released are true.

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If the PMs are true then HP aided and assisted Pack in doing the hack and covering it up...

If the PMs are not true then HP made it up.

[Ima Nasshole]

what exactly is all this about?

[anarch]

You missed out Ima...

HP released super duper secret PMs allegedly of PACK confiding and bragging about hacking BEs account...

Only the time stamp of those PMs begins around the first page...with HP posting all the while telling nobody about what he KNEW was happening...

http://amkon.net/showthread.php/26515-Seriously-people?p=636895&viewfull=1#post636895


Either HP knew and said nothing and allowed Pack to get away with hacking BEs account for over a year revealing what he knew only to cause distrust and more drama...

or the PM he released at toasted dollhouse is not real.

[Iamsix]

Oh no. Dont lump me in with Ya'll. All I said was that was a very stupid statement on your part.

[13erk0witz]

what exactly is all this about?

It's about N-Sync

[anarch]

Oh no. Dont lump me in with Ya'll. All I said was that was a very stupid statement on your part.


Fair enough.

I just don't give two shits about BE one way or the other.

[MrPenny]

Fair enough.

I just don't give two shits about BE one way or the other.

Other than to dredge up old threads and keep the drama flowing.....you're fuckin' stupid.

[anarch]

Other than to dredge up old threads and keep the drama flowing.....you're fuckin' stupid.


NO penny

I did not start this drama... I did not release these secret PMs incriminating Pack and HP

The pigeon did that.

Either HP knew and said nothing and allowed pack to continue unabated A THREAT by your standards that he allowed to remain on amkon ...or The PM he released was phony

[Iamsix]

Fair enough.

I just don't give two shits about BE one way or the other.


Which is your right. But to condone actions which are wrong just because you dont like someone? That is showing an amazing lack of maturity on your part dont you think?

[13erk0witz]

Round 7, Ding
http://pinkubentobox.com/nagi/flash/BushBlairSwearing.swf

[anarch]

Which is your right. But to condone actions which are wrong just because you dont like someone? That is showing an amazing lack of maturity on your part dont you think?


This would be a side issue.

Screw me and my childish beef for a moment.

This thread was bumped because in this thread was where BE was hacked. Skunk even confirmed and made speshul editorial notes about it.


NOW THEN

Fast forward to this last week.

HP released some PMs allegedly from packetghost where pack brags to HP about hacking all of BEs accounts on the net...only the time stamp on those PMs indicates that HP knew about the hack damn near from the moment it happened...they even correspond about it back and forth. As HP and Pack banter with everyone else in this thread.


SO THEN

If pack was this big bad evil threat and HP knew about it and said nothing for well over a year, what does that make HP?

So many are riding the bash pack wagon and they stress he was a threat and a bad admin and this could be so...

EVEN SO

HP knew about it and said nothing until he was ready to use it as retaliation against skunk and all of amkon...

If pack was really that kind of threat...HP condoned it and told nobody about it until well after Pack was out of the picture.

[bitdrops]

Either HP knew and said nothing and allowed Pack to get away with hacking BEs account for over a year revealing what he knew only to cause distrust and more drama...

or the PM he released at toasted dollhouse is not real.

Sounds logical to me. Comments, MrPseudoskeptic?

[Ima Nasshole]

You missed out Ima...

HP released super duper secret PMs allegedly of PACK confiding and bragging about hacking BEs account...

Only the time stamp of those PMs begins around the first page...with HP posting all the while telling nobody about what he KNEW was happening...

http://amkon.net/showthread.php/26515-Seriously-people?p=636895&viewfull=1#post636895


Either HP knew and said nothing and allowed Pack to get away with hacking BEs account for over a year revealing what he knew only to cause distrust and more drama...

or the PM he released at toasted dollhouse is not real.

I'm no boy scout but Wow... hard to believe anyone would resort to that kind of behavior, either way. If it's true shame on Pack, if it's not true shame on HP for doctoring that shit. The behaviour is way beyond childish, just because you can doesn't mean you should.

[Snow Crash]

But but but... HAXXORZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11eleven

[Silver Star]

This is a fucking joke - the whole lot of it is.

So person 'A' fucks off person 'B' so person 'C' hacks person 'A'..... or whatever - I don't care to explore the inconsequential whats, whys and wherefores of some silly spat between anonymous internet forum posters. It's farcical! How can anyone can take these things so seriously?

THAT is the most serious problem facing Amkon today. All this inter-forum and interpersonal codswallop. How off-putting it must be for the casual browser to log in here and read all this crap!

And what is this this new forum that everyone's fucked off to - the forum that 'dare not speak it's name'? In all honesty, I'm glad that some of these people have been sluiced off the site - I was growing weary of their bored, jaded typings.

[BE2]

I'm no boy scout but Wow... hard to believe anyone would resort to that kind of behaviorNot hard to believe if you knew the guy. What's harder to believe is that dullards like Anarch and Slow Crap- and I'll add Mojo here- find ways to justify such a betrayal by a trusted Admin. Go figure that...

[anarch]

Not hard to believe if you knew the guy. What's harder to believe is that dullards like Anarch and Slow Crap- and I'll add Mojo here- find ways to justify such a betrayal by a trusted Admin. Go figure that...


Don't forget to add HP too...

He knew and said nothing and allowed it to continue

He released the PM as a show of trust? You can trust him not to give you the proof you've been hacked until it suits his desires. You can trust him to allow a known threat to continue to be a threat.

That or the PMs he released are phony.

Can't have it both ways but either way HP did wrong.

[BE2]

The pigeon was very wrong to sit on this information for a year. He seems to have finally had a Damascus moment. But at the end of the day only a complete fucktard denialist would find a way to justify the betrayal of Amkon by your pals, Pack and Slow Crap. Live with that, dullard. By the way- let us know if you and the walrus finally manage to graduate from high school.