View Full Version : Fukkin VIRUS.
guinnessford
05-07-2010, 12:51 AM
K, Ive got one.
Ad-aware keeps removing Win32.Ba\..Sinowal
Nobody uses this one for pron, kids are on it mostly, so Im assuming its nothing very nasty, but it seems extremely persistent and its slowing it to the point of less than dial up.
From what I understand, some viruses can actually disallow access to anti-viral programs, and really fukk with you.
seems like its doing that.
Now, being the BROKE ass amerikan I am, anyone able to point me in the direction of a free, or very cheap anti-virus that isnt something that has to be downloaded?
Ive tried to download S&D on this one, but it wont let me.
Gonna get mad soon, and its too late for that.
Thamks anyone in advance.
Jackinthebox
05-07-2010, 12:54 AM
Malwarebytes.
Jackinthebox
05-07-2010, 12:55 AM
Woops, my bad, gotta download it, but it's free.
guinnessford
05-07-2010, 12:55 AM
Is it a website that offers a scan?
Ill try a download, but im not optimistic.
MrPenny
05-07-2010, 12:55 AM
There are none that are available any other way than downloading.
Like Jack said...Malwarebytes to clean it.....AVG in the future to protect. There is Trend Micro that has an "over the wire" scan.
Jackinthebox
05-07-2010, 12:56 AM
http://www.malwarebytes.org/
MrPenny
05-07-2010, 12:56 AM
http://housecall.trendmicro.com/
Paroxysm
05-07-2010, 12:58 AM
GQb_Q8WRL_g
guinnessford
05-07-2010, 12:59 AM
GQb_Q8WRL_g
Yah, yah.
Got a spare Mac layin around you wanna give me?
MrPenny
05-07-2010, 01:00 AM
Yah, yah.
Got a spare Mac layin around you wanna give me?
No, but I'll mail you a Linux disc for the cost of postage.
Sinowal is nasty and has been around a while.
http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=58147
guinnessford
05-07-2010, 01:01 AM
No, but I'll mail you a Linux disc for the cost of postage.
Sinowal is nasty and has been around a while.
http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=58147
Deal.
Ive wanted to do the Linux thing a while, just been scared id mess it up.
Cant get any worse than it is.
skunk
05-07-2010, 01:04 AM
You can download it online, burn it to a CD, and install it right on your computer. Does your work comp have a CD burner?
guinnessford
05-07-2010, 01:05 AM
Yeah, it does.
I have to run it from a cd constantly?
Not a big deal, just seems weird.
skunk
05-07-2010, 01:06 AM
Well you can run it from a CD, but it'll be a lot slower. I was saying in order to install linux to your hard drive (or any other operating system/software) you'll need it burned onto a CD.
MrPenny
05-07-2010, 01:07 AM
http://www.ubuntu.com/
Probably the best choice for a first time Linux user.
Dump your docs, videos, photos, etc....on to removeable storage. Install Ubuntu and copy your stuff to the appropriate folders.
guinnessford
05-07-2010, 01:07 AM
Gotcha.
Boxes arent my strong point, if it was a carb or a trans it would be fixed, ya know?
MrPenny
05-07-2010, 01:07 AM
Yeah, it does.
I have to run it from a cd constantly?
Not a big deal, just seems weird.
When Ubuntu starts up, the splash screen will give you the choice to try it first or install it to your hard drive.
Paroxysm
05-07-2010, 01:09 AM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rbeqbj-n1Z0/Skeak1qBGyI/AAAAAAAAAeM/3k_ntrDWmOw/s400/ubuntu.png
guinnessford
05-07-2010, 01:10 AM
Ok, Im gonna give it a shot, looks like the Shake approves......
skunk
05-07-2010, 01:10 AM
I have mint on a CD, just haven't bothered installing it yet. Mac OS runs fine for my purposes.
GF our mate who is a tech sorts all that for us... we use the nod32, free download
http://www.eset.com/
and this for the other bad stuff
http://www.superantispyware.com/shoppingcart.html?action=add&sku=SAS000&tag=SUPERANTISPYWARE
it seems to work fine and cptures shit before the damage .....
a while back he said they starting installing a program called shadow protect ....
http://www.storagecraft.com/shadow_protect_server.php
there is a PC version of this he said .... apparently it continually captures and backsup all the data on your pc .... so should it crash for any reason you can start straight away again as it will install the last "capture" data and have you running as it was before the virus got ya ... he said from a commercial point of view its a god-send as it did away with the time consuming effort of literally going through the machine in its infected state and clearing it that way ...... I know less about these things than you Im sure..... my friend understands my ignorance so has set it all up so it take cares of itself ..... makes using this thing almost a pleasure... although I still manage to fuck things up from time to time :)
Paroxysm
05-07-2010, 01:11 AM
Fuck XP runs ok for me...but then again I tend to stay away from all that ghey pron...
MrPenny
05-07-2010, 01:12 AM
Burning the type of file you'll download is not as straight forward as burning mp3s or photos. It is a "disk image" with a file extension of .iso. The burner must be specifically set to burn a disc image....
MrPenny
05-07-2010, 01:14 AM
http://www.storagecraft.com/shadow_protect_server.php
there is a PC version of this he said .... apparently it continually captures and backsup all the data on your pc .... so should it crash for any reason you can start straight away again as it will install the last "capture" data and have you running as it was before the virus got ya ...
Monster resource and disk hog....I guarantee it.
Paroxysm
05-07-2010, 01:14 AM
If he doesn't know how to burn an ISO image he is a newb...jus sayin...
GF:
http://cdn0.knowyourmeme.com/i/19580/original/yoda-rtfm.jpg
Monster resource and disk hog....I guarantee it.
you seem to know a bit about this stuff Penny .... are there no "stats" from the link that would confirm guarantee? ... if I knew what I was looking at I would check myself
skunk
05-07-2010, 01:17 AM
Google "windows ISO burner".
Paroxysm
05-07-2010, 01:18 AM
Google "RTFM"...
http://www.eq2.co.uk/images/funny/rtfm.gif
MrPenny
05-07-2010, 01:20 AM
you seem to know a bit about this stuff Penny .... are there no "stats" from the link that would confirm guarantee? ... if I knew what I was looking at I would check myself
Let me look at their link in depth.
From my experience, anything that does what you described, is constantly active and monitoring every single file, directory, and registry change as it occurs. Then, writing them to what is essentially a "ghost" image of your computer.....an image that is easily as large as all of the software, including OS, on your computer.
MrPenny
05-07-2010, 01:27 AM
you seem to know a bit about this stuff Penny .... are there no "stats" from the link that would confirm guarantee? ... if I knew what I was looking at I would check myself
ShadowProtect is an enterprise level imaging and recovery product that works on a client/server architecture. You need a remote location, either a removeable disk, network storage, etc...for the storage of computer backups.
It does not appear to be a suitable solution for at home.
From my experience, anything that does what you described, is constantly active
my mate said that once you do a full back up , when this system is used, that it takes about 20 mins ... then he said you would set it to do an incremental backup evry 20 mins ( I guess that time frame is dependant on how your pc is used, if in a work enviroment lots of data may be coming in regularly so you would want it backed up more often) .....which he said takes only about 2 minutes , if your machine crashed for any reason you can restart it from the last back-up point , loing any data between that time and the moment it crashed of course
Paroxysm
05-07-2010, 01:32 AM
Try 'Acronis True Image'...I use it, and it's geared more for home user's. It's more GUI friendly than Norton Ghost, but not quite as automated as what MrP was talking about.
OR just setup a HW RAID array (to protect against Hard Drive failure)...and stop getting virus' off those pron sites...;)
MrPenny
05-07-2010, 01:41 AM
my mate said that once you do a full back up , when this system is used, that it takes about 20 mins ... then he said you would set it to do an incremental backup evry 20 mins ( I guess that time frame is dependant on how your pc is used, if in a work enviroment lots of data may be coming in regularly so you would want it backed up more often) .....which he said takes only about 2 minutes , if your machine crashed for any reason you can restart it from the last back-up point , loing any data between that time and the moment it crashed of course
And every 20 minutes, it scans your entire computer for any changes that have occurred. Your entire computer. It cannot know what is incremented without properly checking literally everything.
And of course, it's backing up the rootkit you already have.
MissSilver
05-07-2010, 01:44 AM
K, Ive got one.
Ad-aware keeps removing Win32.Ba\..Sinowal
Nobody uses this one for pron, kids are on it mostly, so Im assuming its nothing very nasty, but it seems extremely persistent and its slowing it to the point of less than dial up.
From what I understand, some viruses can actually disallow access to anti-viral programs, and really fukk with you.
seems like its doing that.
Now, being the BROKE ass amerikan I am, anyone able to point me in the direction of a free, or very cheap anti-virus that isnt something that has to be downloaded?
Ive tried to download S&D on this one, but it wont let me.
Gonna get mad soon, and its too late for that.
Thamks anyone in advance.
A virus eh?
Usually those type of virus will not allow you to download any anti-virus from their main site but as I have found out one sunny day, they will not interfere with torrent sites. Not sure about sites like megaUpload and the likes but it is worth a try IMO.
I am looking right now as to what can be done or used to remove this but from experience, when one like ad aware or spybot tells you it has removed it and it keeps coming back, it is usually because it has imbedded itself in the restore system information and is unable to completely remove it when the system restore is turned on, My advice is to turn off your system restore (Start/control panel/system- system restore tab) and rerun ad aware.
Start with this and tell me how it goes.
It does not appear to be a suitable solution for at home.
he's calling over later so I'll ask about the home version and how much hassle it is to get going ..... I know they are currently still using it via their buissness clients as its a timesaver when the shtf .... I suppose though once you install something like that you will be shooting yaself in the foot kinda as you would not need to manually go through the machine and clean it up that way ... but the bill-able hours though lost can be spent doin other shit I guess ..... ok kiwi , thats enough , please shut the fuck up now :)
http://amkon.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=820&stc=1&d=1273207724
Paroxysm
05-07-2010, 01:51 AM
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MrPenny
05-07-2010, 01:53 AM
Kiwi, I see nothing on their website that leads me to believe they have a "home version". They do have what they call a "desktop" version, but it is geared towards an enterprise with multiple PCs that they want to manage.
Read this, http://www.storagecraft.com/documents/ShadowProtect-4.0-User-Guides/ShadowProtect%204.0%20User%20Guide.pdf and make your own decision.
From the link provided, all I can say is that it is not a product geared to the home user.
Paroxysm
05-07-2010, 01:57 AM
http://www.somaliland.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/wp-optimize/png/Acronis%20True%20Image%2011%20Home.jpg
MrPenny
05-07-2010, 02:01 AM
how does that work Prox?
By taking money out of your pocket and transferring it to them.
MrPenny
05-07-2010, 02:03 AM
Ironically, my own scheduled virus scan has started.....means it's time for me to climb into the fart sack.
See ya'
MissSilver
05-07-2010, 02:25 AM
If you want to try your luck with this one Guiness... It is Spybot S&D and the latest detection updates as an extra if it will not download. The last malware I caught wouldn't allow me either to download jack from official sites so I uploaded the whole thing to megaupload and rared it.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RHY61QST
Good luck
guinnessford
05-07-2010, 09:07 AM
Yes, puter newb is what I am.
Thanks everyone for helpin, im atr work and got a real puter now.
Gonna load some ashit on my thumbdrive.
RTFM is my favorite saying here, people buy 50 dollar dvd players and read em, but not the ones for 40k or 50k vehicles.
Lazy mutha fukks bring em here all the time saying shit dont work, but havent read THE FUKKIN MANUAL!!!!!