abducting

[conspirastan]

i dont believe in abductions because there would be far to many volunteers,i would say yo let me say adios to everybody and lets keep that anal probing thing down to a bare minimum.other than that lets go,

[KIWI]

....and lets keep that anal probing thing down to a bare minimum

so its not like you want "none" at all ?...lol

[WhispersInTheDark]

So - if it's done while you're asleep, without your express consent, is it abduction/anal rape, or no?

[skunk]

Why do you assume people are abducted because they want to be, quite the contrary. I imagine it would be a horrifying experience.

[Chorlton]

I would like to volunteer to be abducted by Angelina Jolie
Especially when she puts on the posh English voice like in them thar filums

[MrPenny]

The minimum anal probe is okay = completely homosexual.

[skunk]

Are you calling aliens gay?

[Antimony]

how do you know YOU haven't already been taken and probed then had all memory erased? ... @_@

[Alessandra]

Why do you assume people are abducted because they want to be, quite the contrary. I imagine it would be a horrifying experience.

exactly. Otherwise why call it abduction.

the OP is amazing in his ignorance.

[anarch]

hmmmm..where did this douche go off too?

[MissA]

hmmmm..where did this douche go off too?

He was abducted.

[Lexion]

I WANT to be abducted.

I WANT the anal probe.

I WANT the proof.

Guess what ?

Hasn't happened.

Oh yeah, THEY can erase
memories.

Yeah..............

[Alessandra]

oh yeah because you're a huge know it all, you know about everything in the universe.

:facepalm:

[BE2]

There's far too much sincere testimony to dismiss it. I think a reading of Hopkins, Mack and Jacobs will attest to that.

[Alessandra]

BE; you know he's goin to reply with a

"I'm right, you're wrong, and I'm not gonna prove it" post.

[BE2]

Nah. Lex is all about common sense. And this isn't common sense- real though you and I may be convinced that it is. To accept the reality of the abduction phenomenon requires a shift in paradigms of understanding nature. I understand anthropocentric world views and how difficult they are to transcend. Gently I urge him- please suspend conviction, read the literature, and then let us talk.

[BE2]

The truth is that the abduction phenomenon is very real- and increasingly well documented by writers as diverse as Fuller, Fowler, Strieber, Hopkins, Jacobs, Mack and even our own Sacha Christie. I'd guess a closed minded giggling douche like Lex has read none of them- nor will he.

[Chorlton]

There's far too much sincere testimony to dismiss it. I think a reading of Hopkins, Mack and Jacobs will attest to that.

Utter Bollocks

[Chorlton]

The truth is that the abduction phenomenon is very real- and increasingly well documented by writers as diverse as Fuller, Fowler, Strieber, Hopkins, Jacobs, Mack and even our own Sacha Christie. I'd guess a closed minded giggling douche like Lex has read none of them- nor will he.
They mistake dreams and daydreams as abductions.

Logic.
If there aint no aliens and ships, there aint no abductions
Its quite simple.

There are lots of loonies out there though

[BE2]

Why do you suppose that Churchill decided that the evidence was so alarming that it had to bottled for 50 years? Was he just another lunatic?

[Chorlton]

Why do you suppose that Churchill decided that the evidence was so alarming that it had to bottled for 50 years? Was he just another lunatic?

He had enough on his plate and knew the British people had enough on their plate and just didnt want people bothered with bollocks like that.

[BE2]

fifty years is a long sentence for a sack 'o bollocks.:lol: but i guess he figured it was gonna be a loooong war.

[guinnessford]

Are you calling aliens gay?

Gay, gray, whats the difference.

[Chorlton]

Gay, gray, whats the difference.
Well, Eltons Gay but definately not Grey
And its Grey with an 'E' not an 'A'

here endeth the lesson.

[BE2]

i've had quite enough of your shit.

[Chorlton]

i've had quite enough of your shit.
Go back and watch my video again then

[BE2]

all amkoids who agree with me raise your hands.

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[Chorlton]

Only the boys agree with you.
The girls are ALL MINE

[BE2]

well the question was, "who likes pussy?"

[Starlight]

Abductions happen to everyone, though some call them experiences, instead, no one is left out, so that memory thing is for real, also, if you are returned, they're not the negatives. They don't return you. So there for the ones that do remember, some of it, have connections to their Family, the experiences vary and there are no coincidences in life Everything is in your life for a reason, and if you remember ETs or Family/Guides in any way, this is a wake up call, sometimes tough love, sometimes not. Lexion has in his post, ufo's are real, ets are not.

Like Lou Baldin said in his ATS thread, Ets are as real as the nose on your face. In fact, I highly recommend his site:
ufolou.com

I've had many experiences, and many sitings of crafts with my children and especially my older son who has had missing time and some memories too. There is no mistaking opening the door and being face to face with a grey, like the end of May, and he disappears leaving you with the idea, maybe you guys are in for it that night, only to have a masked dream, while your son, is up and thinks he had a jolt and felt he was suddenly returned or something precisely at the time in your dream that he was, for you woke up a few moments later.

That was Quantum, being asked to fill a questionaire with 3 in the family abducted, and me and my oldest son invited aboard. And the issue was "time". There is no such thing. Its a program that runs in our heads, in this holographic universe. In reality, in Infinity, its No Time/Zero Time, and everything that is, was and will be, is all at once, including infinite you's, past selves and future selves. From the Higher Ups point of view, this is the past and has already happened as I was told in one of my checkups. So on board, there were 4 blond clones, and she shrugged as if they do not do time, and then said, "But I will tell you this, this day has taken 9 days to complete."

AqnEGu8VF8Y
Perception - The reality beyond matter

This video discusses the real science that is known about how our minds are the dvd players and we perceive this cosmos, our reality on a screen in the back of our head, that what is around us is streams of condensed energy waves, energy = matter.

We don't have the remotes, they do. They can pause the time program, it stops when we die along with memory recall.

Lou Baldin talks about the Teachers or Adults watching over the playground, us, the kindergarden studens, or reform school inmates.

We all get checked on, the experiences we have relate to our level or awareness and unconditional love. Choose love not fear, and that means, for those who hurt us as well, we're here to reach the next level, to be progressed, like some of them are. To be able to live in a eutopia, means working on self, and turning our weaknesses into strengths.

Most need to wake up more on this issue, meditate and seek some insight and answers, reflect inside, you are infinite with infinite potential and Future/Higher Selves and Family. Seek to connect to who you are and take reflect on your problems and difficulties and seek to turn them around. Especially important due to the nature of TPTB and the karmic traps they are setting and their wish for a harvest, with negatives around as well Negativity has no power over love, not our souls. So loving others and waking up is the answer.

[Cheezit]

I've seen that video several times now. It's interesting, provokes lots of thoughts. How real is it? Not sure.

[Starlight]

The video above depicts what scientists have already learnt about the reality around us and how the human brain works, Einstein grappled with this amongst many. We just get the hands on physical science applications, useful for slaves, but it doesnt give us the right questions to ask and a search for real answers. And for the deep thinker there should be many.

This is 12 parts, on the channel, and it is presented in a different bringing in more Quantum Info, such as Quantum Entanglement.

tSk51Lp-vHUWhat the bleep do we know? Down the rabbit hole. part 1

If everything is infinite, if we exist in Infinity, then all energy is infinite too, recycling, there was no Big Bang, or if one thinks that, it was continually happening. And is consciousness the same kind of matter as the matter=energy or E=mc2? Is consciousness/soul something else? Are you the driver, separate from the coke can, or the pavement? Does something inanimate have the same consciousness energy as animate?

http://sleeperlou.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=john&action=display&thread=155


Throughout the ages have worshiped the sun as a god. The sun is special, all stars are, but they expire and souls don't. The soul is made of something much more mysterious than the sun or anthing else for that "matter". Matter, get it? The soul is not "matter" as is light and everything else we see in 3D land.Between Infinite Consciousness and Inanimate mc2 energy, Consciousness is supreme, and also, a Hologram is a construct, a creation. Though we are now creating ones that do not require projectors, (oh stars make good projectors, input system, windows/gateways, phone lines home. Maybe why sungazing safely is a very enlightening thing to do, not because a star is god or an angel, its a construct too, but its something all right! ) our holograms are most definitely creations.

Thus consciousness, seems to be in charge, and in addition, Infinity has several hallmarks, ie. nonlocality: you can't measure it. There is no center. You can't pinpoint anything in it, for wherever you place the dot, there is endlessness, never ending, infinity surrounding it in all directions. This also means, no time, its all at once, no size, the inifnity in a grain of sand is equal to a star, and both can be divided unto infinity without vanishing, though we may not see it after a bit.

Infinity cannot have a limit. Ie. One. If you were to take one Locality, such as the universe, or One Consciousness, it wouldnt matter if the size seemed to be Infinite, this would still be One item or One thing that perceives itself as One. There can never be a limit in infinity, there is no One anything, there are Infninte One's that stretch in all directions, and their Infinite volumes are equal. This means we are a Family, and everyone is in progression forever, and exists forever, and in No Time, your entire infinite never ending roll of film exists simultaneously, so there are Infinite clips in the film of You.

It also means, there are Higher Ups watching over the playground, taking note of the bullies, and we're here to progress to better places when we start to love.

Time is a program, and in our universe every planet and moon has its own orbit and channel, including life. In addition, there are infinite densities and channels, both positive and negative.

Every day has tests, we are tested and have free will to chose love or fear. To be kind generous charitable, non-reactive and peaceful.

When you seek, and meditate, reaching the love frequency channel, raising your conscousness, you begin to experience protection from negative experiences, and also, may begin to experience a number of contact, inspirations and your own inner proof.

But the science is real. Though this matrix like world is real too in a way, the analaogy of DVD player, computers and TVs is because this caveman technology is what we're using. Think of a race in our galaxy, millions of years ahead, or a race in the universe, billions of years more advanced in technology. Then outside to the true Higher Ups, our Family, and the level of living, holograms, cosmos, such as the one we're in.

[Trauma Teased]

Abductions happen to everyone, though some call them experiences, instead, no one is left out, so that memory thing is for real

Actually abductions and probing and memory erasing and all that stuff only seem to happen to Americans. I wonder why.


:D

[BE2]

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An Open Letter to Alien Abductee Cynics and Debunkers


It is almost beyond my ability to approach your disbelief; writing about these nighttime, bedroom, harassing, entities gives me the loneliest feeling imaginable but it allows me to distance myself from these experiences and at the same time to embrace these experiences.

To see these entities eyeball to eyeball is to know that everything that we have been taught since we were children is wrong.

If it weren't for many people who encourage and who understand and who commiserate, I might flirt more with the beast of madness and write less.

People contact me who have read my stuff who likewise suffer these exact same nuance of experiences with the precise same entities.

I receive many weekly requests for publication and many requests for assistance.


Putting these experiences into words is painful for many reasons;
it is lonely and risky putting these ideas into print.

But the desolate loneliness abates as long as I can assist someone; when that confluence occurs, I know that God in some form will assist me.

I also then know that these ineffable experiences are not just real for me only, but are indeed miraculously identical to many others in every sense of what reality is and means.

And although I cannot provide empirical concrete "geometric proofs" required by cynical sleepwalking debunkers I can by writing of my experiences assist others who are likewise so troubled.

I used to be mildly agog and cynically dubious, just like you are.

After many overhead craft sightings, and bizarre concurrent experiences, I have moved from unknowingness to suspicion to resistance in just a few years of fully awakening, in all full sense of the word.


Critical analysis about, into these subtle, ephemeral experiences is what my writings about my experiences with alien entities primarily concern.

Word play about"craziness", or "open mindedness" while one goes on to debunk a global alien reality, isn't an entertaining didactic game; being a wit at the expense of the raw angst of people abducted by aliens, is closer to a nit wit or half wit or dim wit.

And I know that debunkers may be neither of these.

Critical acceptance isn't an issue with alien abductees.

We are heroes, not victims and we are beyond desiring such things from cynics and debunkers.

To such people who "challenge" “Major Gordon Cooper to the United Nations: I believe that these extra-terrestrial vehicles and their crews are visiting this planet from other planets... Most astronauts who had seen them were reluctant to discuss UFOs.”
abductee's reports and scoff at such , I say this; perhaps, you just haven't been looking.

If you challenged a bat watcher that bats do not exist because you've never seen one, one could say that bats frequent the skies but are only visible to the eye early dusk and early morning.

But,to refute, to challenge and demand proof from millions around the globe who report similar experiences and who have never spoken to each other is another thing, entirely.

These entities are inter dimensional, elusive and ephemeral as are abduction experiences.

To be able to recall and to record these experiences are murderously difficult tasks; most people who are taken and marched around a craft, then awaken and are none the wiser.

A poet can describe his feelings as he approaches a door, his feelings as he passes through it and his feelings as he emerges through the door's other side.
How can he respond to such a one who "challenges" his then recorded experiences?

Craft that move in manners that defy Newtonian physics are ALWAYS up there; if I truly disliked you and wished hurt on you I would suggest a defining alien proving experiment that would open doors you could not ever close again.

I mean spiritedly give this ' tool of proof' only to chronic gadflies and degenerate cynics, in abject revenge, knowing that it will surely poison their lives.

I implore you NOT to employ this "tool" towards such alien presence "proof".

Still, I give it to you knowing both that it will surely work and that it will taint my soul.


It seems that good guy aliens are gone and only gangster types are here prevailing; I do not know why this is so but presume from evidence that salvage is going on.

The skies in most cities are clear of any human craft after the local airports close.

Secure any workable flashlight and do this for several nights in a row:

Blinking any flashlight, rhythmically, at the night sky, in a sequence of descending and ascending blinks, over several many nights is a certain, sure fire, guaranteed way to attract demented greys and all of their elusive, subtle, horrid nonsense-I know this sad fact from my own personal experiences.

I tried this, when I was just like you, a cynic and before I had any smidgen of evil entity inter dimensional horse sense:

Blink the flashlight at the heavens ten times, then nine , then eight, and so on descending to one and reverse the order from one blink to two and so one up to ten. Do this several times in one nighttime.

Repeat this over several nighttimes.

Subtle alterations in your dreams, thoughts and life experiences will ensue; your house will be 'infested', your mind and soul a battleground.

You have been properly alerted and warned. But, then, you did ask for irrefutable proof.




Crass debunkers, you misunderstand my ire.
I am not angry with you; I am angry with harassing entities.

Being upset or angry about being personally violated is not

necessarily a 'negative' take or response in the light of these

experiences. Properly channeled and directed anger can be

empowering and therapeutic.

At some point in the healing process

each alien abductee must find a way to transmute the anger into something less

damaging to the internal ecosystem.

But basically the appearance

of anger is all a part of a process that helps us to grow and to

cope with the impossible situation we find ourselves in.

That's 'positive'.

In reality, it is the ones who are viewed as having a 'negative

attitude' toward their experiences as alien abductees who are

demonstrating a healthy and positive psychological and emotional

response to what is a surreal set of experiences/ circumstances.


We 'abductees' are the ones who are in-touch with the reality

and personal ramifications of what is happening to us and to

our loved-ones.

We don't candy-coat the facts to make it more palatable.

We are facing the situation head-on and with our eyes wide

open.


On the other hand, the ones who are viewed as having a more

positive attitude toward their 'alien contact experiences' are,

from my viewpoint , in a state of deep denial.



What do you know of 'Stockholm syndrome'?

You know, when the

victims begin to identify with their own captors in

hostage/kidnap situations.

You'll

understand where I'm coming from when I say that the 'new-agers'

and the seeming 'contactees' are the ones who have had a 'negative'

response to the experiences.

The abductees I have come to know, ones who have come forward

and put their family name, careers/jobs, reputations and

relationships with friends on the line, are among the most

courageous, well put together and genuinely strong individuals

anyone could ever want to meet.

Not a 'negative-Nelly' among

'em. On the contrary, these are fighters who refuse to lay down. We are not just angry with debunkers; we have learned simply to avoid them.

Abductees refuse to succumb to hopelessness and helplessness; they

fight back by speaking out and standing up to be counted. We can welcome to be

scrutinized and at times ridiculed.

These abductees are genuine patriots. They put it all on the

line to tell the truth no matter personal cost.

"Abductees negative"? I beg to disagree . I've got the

people to prove it. Anyone who has assumed that we have a

'negative' take or attitude toward alien experiences has badly

misread/misjudged us.

Don't misread our strength for weakness. I

am/we are, (abductees) strong, positive individuals.

I am spoiled, perhaps, having learned to enjoy the intellectual milk run of delivering my bombs over target without debunking flak, without debunking anti-aircraft fire.

Debunkers have their own preset agendas, very far from pursuing any objective truths, I have sadly discovered; this is my experience with people who think debunking alien abductions is an intellectual healthy pursuit.

Skepticism IS healthy; cynicism is not.

Debunkers are people who at present, at least, I at all cost try hard to avoid.

When I submit to periodic radio broadcast interviews, I am careful, beforehand, to be sure that the studio is free of such ilk, as I am only interested in reaching accepting and inquiring minds / audiences; I am spoiled.

I have no patience for ignorance; there is no room, anymore, with the plethora of alien visitation evidence and UFO evidence the world over for ignorance. No room whatsoever.

"If you can't allow the opportunity for debunking," translates into didactic ambush, scorn and worse, disinformation.

If I paint you unfairly with this same broad brush stroke it is because

you discard subjective experience as non evidence; reports like mine from all over the globe are dismissed out of hand by you, written off as mere "subjective experiences".

The real love and passion that one experiences, the sharp pain of the loss of a loved one, the exhilaration of sky diving, also fall under "subjective experiences" and according to you should be considered non substantiated non evidence and be dismissed as 'not contributing to your changed world view'.

Do you refute your own subjective experiences?

Debunkers are polished nihilistic logicians .

If one person hallucinates alien entities and alien abductions, that's only his reality; but if if millions see and experience the precise same hallucination, it is very objectively real, in every sense of what reality is.

You do not have to surrender "intrique" for my experiences or even throw your hands up in the air in disgust and lament at never, ever seeing UFOs or aliens until you die;

If all else fails between us, you always have that aforementioned flashlight and a few minutes to spare at nighttime to use it; I await what debunking you will conjure against the results of THAT field experiment.....



Warmest regards
Paul Schroeder

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Bobby Morrison (NOAA) Boulder CO, talks about the same experiences in below.
As he has said to me these "entities" wanted him to move to Washington DC for the years 2011 & 12. Bobby told them to find somebody else...Rmc

http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0209/march-print.html

[BE2]

I've published the Bobby Morrison UFO Digest article (linked in Bob's reply) here before. It's well worth reading.

[egg]

I think Conspiristan was abducted.

[BE2]

Nah. There he is right in the middle of the front row.

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[theeindiee]

I saw him on here a few days ago. Are people scared to post here?

[butlincat]

CAN ANYBODY TELL ME ANY LOCATION FOR THESE CLOWNS WHO RUN THIS SITE. PLS? WE NEED IT FOR LEGAL REASONS. THANK YOU....namaste...b.

[Lexion]

Trinity Aquisitions Inc.

PO Box 334, Shalimar FL. 32579

[Malaprop]

I agree with you OP, except for one thing. You said "adios" in your post, which means that YOU are the alien.

haha get it?

[WITCH HUNT]

The minimum anal probe is okay = completely homosexual.

Really? That is completely homophobic. A lot of heterosexual couples engage in a healthy sex life consisting clean and fulfilling arse play.

Have you ever had tongue job, been rimmed, or had a good old-fashioned thumb poke during a blow job? Ever packed a girls fudge, spread the peanut butter, pumped the poo, dotted the brown-eye, chased the chocolate starfish, or poked a pooper?

You sir need to live a little. Maybe a little role play is needed. I was wondering if you could fit into a French Maid's outfit?