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Watcher-In-The-Shadows
03-14-2010, 02:56 PM
Warning: Ancient sex on show in Paris

By EMMA VANDORE (AP) – 3 days ago
PARIS — The latest show at Paris' Quai Branly museum comes with a warning for visitors: "This exhibition of Moche ceramics shows sexual acts of an explicit nature."
But the extraordinary and graphic testimonial of the ancient Moche civilization of Peru isn't about physical pleasure or procreation, according to the curator.
He says the sexual acts evoke the rituals that accompanied the death of dignitaries, and the human sacrifices that went with them. They tell a story about the power of the elite that he says has parallels with modern life.
"Sex, death and sacrifice in the Moche religion," which opened this week and runs until May 23, brings to Europe for the first time 134 erotic Moche ceramics on loan from the Larco Museum in Lima, Peru.
The Moche lived on what is now the northern coast of Peru between the first and eighth centuries. The ancient Andean people belonged to one of the first societies to organize itself in way that would be recognized as a state, constructing cities with elaborate monuments and specialized centers for the production of textiles, metal and ceramics.
Their culture is on display at the anthropological Quai Branly museum, whose recent exhibits include an exploration of the Teotihuacan people of ancient Mexico and a tribute to African literature and culture.
The visitor to the Moche show is asked to look beyond the graphic nature of the exhibits, such as the outsize penis used for pouring liquids, or the grimacing woman being forced to perform oral sex.
Some of the acts are disturbing and violent — but not in the provocative fashion of pornography or some modern artists.
They don't reflect scenes from ordinary Moche life, the exhibition explains.
Curator Steve Bourget, a professor at the University of Texas at Austin who has made his career studying the Moche, says he believes they were part of ritual or sacrificial ceremonies — bloodthirsty and wild though strictly controlled affairs.
Some of the ceramics are almost anatomical — the Moche artists have made clear, often in minute detail, the nature of the acts they are depicting.
That may be because the artists were making what Bourget says is an important distinction between vaginal intercourse, which is rarely shown, and other forms of sex.
Vaginal sex is usually performed by a supernatural being called Wrinkle Face — which Bourget believes makes it associated with the afterlife.
Non-vaginal intercourse often involves women engaging in sex with skeletal beings or sacrificial victims, seen as inhabiting a place between this world and the next.
As such Bourget believes the sexual acts are linked to a ritual inversion of order which takes place during funerary or sacrificial rituals associated with the transition into the other world.
"How do you go back from being dead into going in another form of life?" he told The Associated Press during a visit this week. "All the cultures have problems with that."
Both an anthropologist and an archaeologist, he says its only possible to understand such a long-gone culture because "I eat the Moche, I sleep the Moche, I talk to the Moche."
It's a relationship that seems to be working out for him.
"The Gods of the Moche seem to like me so they keep letting me find stuff," he says.
Fifteen years ago he discovered the broken and sex-sated bones of male warriors who'd lain for centuries in a massive sacrificial site.
After the first bodies were discovered, it took archaeologists several days to work out what they had found, but the cut marks on the throats, on the vertebrae, on the neck bones gave it away.
He also found outfits, textiles, and objects similar to those depicted in the ceramics, after which "it's only a small step" to imagine them performing the sexual rituals.
Originally interpreted as evidence of a decadent culture, Bourget says the sexual acts should be seen as a visual discourse on the power of the Moche elite.
It's a story that has parallels with modern debates from the burqa to the death penalty.
"All state societies be they French, be they American, be they any, are by definition violent systems," Bourget said.
"The state gives itself the right to kill, to put people in jail, to control them."
In places where the ideological pole is strongest — from the Moche sacrifices through Ancient Rome to modern day Texas — the state tries to magnify its power through ritualized violence.
He says the Moche religion is not the only one to seek to control sexuality. The burqa is a form of control, as is the Catholic aversion to condoms, he says.
"You control sexuality, you control access to it, and in the process you give yourself power over groups, over people and you embed this power into values and you disseminate the values as being part of the population," he says.
"The population accept this because they believe its part of their values. They don't think they are being controlled."

MrPenny
03-14-2010, 02:57 PM
That's fucking weird.

Watcher-In-The-Shadows
03-14-2010, 02:58 PM
How so?

Lexion
03-14-2010, 03:00 PM
Interesting.

Maybe it'll come to the States.

MrPenny
03-14-2010, 03:00 PM
There's a big stupid pun in my post. It depends on where you stress the words.

Lexion
03-14-2010, 03:04 PM
I caught it.

:D

Watcher-In-The-Shadows
03-14-2010, 03:38 PM
Okay if you say so.
Maybe it's because I'm hung over I don't get it.

MrPenny
03-14-2010, 03:45 PM
That's fucking weird.

That's fucking weird.

That's fucking weird.

egg
03-14-2010, 03:48 PM
Not only is it very weird, that's fucking in an odd way.

Ducky
03-14-2010, 03:56 PM
Don't laugh, but the 1st thing I thought about when I read the OP was 'mosh pits' at concerts. 'Free for all'. 'Almost anything goes'.

Mosh, Moche...

But the Moche society/civilization took it quite a few steps further than that.

The art exhibit seems to want to justify this type of behavior in people. Almost. (Having a hard time with this sentence..one sec..let me expand upon it further)

Hmm...

I remember an exhibit that was held in Toronto a few years ago. Can't remember the title name, but it had something to do with using real cadavors - splayed in 'real life' (supposedly tasteful) poses. The bodies weren't rotted but preserved - obviously. Some were 'sliced' in different sections to show what we look like on the inside.

For some, this might have been outside their comfort zone. Others like myself, would find it intriguing.

Getting back to 'Moche'...I'm sure there's plenty of societies that have practiced some pretty interesting, grotesque, and otherwise eye-opening rituals. Now whether these should be publically viewed (educational sources?) depends on many things.

Unless you're a gung ho voyeur at heart, nobody's going to want to know about (let alone see close hand) the sexual practices that go on in MY bedroom. To some it might be boring, to others it might stimulate conversation and create a whole new gendre of experiences in their bedroom hence on.

For me to say that I wouldn't want the Moche exhibit; albeit an (art?) form, to be viewed openly in the manner that it is, doesn't necessarilly make me a prude. I'm obviously concerned as to how others will 'take it' in context.

It's as close to being a few 'pron pages pulled from an ancient magazine' that one can come close to. But a 3D visual aid brought to life none the less.

Killing, sexual preferences, et al.

I can read about them or visit Madam Tousands's Wax Museum for the latest in horror. I don't necessarilly have to have it splayed in my face for a greater effect with 'Moche'.

I wouldn't be surprised if some fucking masochistic serial-killer idiot doesn't get his ides (latest flavor of the month) from this. We can't control everyone's thinking, and who knows if this might come about because of this so-called art.

Let's take it even one step further...

Instead of a broadway hit - 'Rent', we'll start up a new one called: "Moche" :p

egg
03-14-2010, 04:04 PM
The exhibit you're talking about, I believe, is called "Bodies"

http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/

Ducky
03-14-2010, 04:24 PM
The exhibit you're talking about, I believe, is called "Bodies"

http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/

AHaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :D

Thanks Egg!

lala
03-14-2010, 05:40 PM
When you read about some of the bent thing that they did years ago, imo it help's to understand how close to an animal us human's are. To some unthinkable act's, but to others part of their culture, belief's, bent veiw's. . . Elizabeth Bathory was a "scary mary" to. . . http://bathory.org/shyla.html

skunk
03-14-2010, 08:48 PM
Cool find wraith.

Jackinthebox
03-14-2010, 09:08 PM
Very interesting, thanks for sharing OP.