Does the black race really have no birth record?

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

Awhile back I read messeage to the black man in America by Elijah Muhammad. He's a member of the NOI. The book basically contains propaganda that clearly tries to influence the reader into believe 2 things:

1. The white man is the devil (I don't necessarily believe that, but make no mistake the white race has done their fair share of evil, just look at history people)

2. The black man is god (Don't necessarily believe this either but I'll explain why it might be feasible)

3. Islam>christianity (I DAMN sure don't believe this)

Anyway, accord to Muhammad the black race has no birth record. What was he trying to say here? That our roots can't be traced back or something? If so that's bullshit because we came from Africa. Wtf am I missing here?

Now as for why I believe number 2's feasible, well just think about it. The black man has GOT to be in someway superior for us to have been considered a threat ever since the beginning of time. I mean seriously, when people feel threatened by others all the time they're basically insecure. Which begs the question, why for the longest times has pretty much the whole fucking world tried to censor the black man? According to Muhammad it's because we're the original man, the ONLY children of god, and all kinds of other shit. IMO, some of it HAS to be true. You don't just fear someone or something for no damn reason. And that would be a damn good reason for the world to fear blacks esp as much as it has.

Thoughts?

[Jackinthebox]

Black man has done and continues to do more damage to themselves than anybody else. But truth be told, we are all our own worst enemy. Every race has been persecuted, every race has been imperialist. Humans are a fucked up race.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

Black man has done and continues to do more damage to themselves than anybody else. But truth be told, we are all our own worst enemy. Every race has been persecuted, every race has been imperialist. Humans are a fucked up race.

Right, but that's not what this is about. It's about why have blacks been feared forever. I mean really, why? What did we ever do?

[Cogburn]

Any Jew could quite easily claim that they have been persecuted since Jesus was crucified, and with ample evidence to support such claims. However your claims only extend so far back as the age of European empires, and thus falls to the same historical fallacy to which Elijah Muhammad's rhetoric creates.

Unfortunately there are many, many cultures that could claim a far greater span and length of persecution. You're personalizing the issue against the facts of history.

In the end, Malcolm X said that Muhammad was full of shit: that the white man wasn't the enemy and that the only way for us to save ourselves was to save each other.

[Jackinthebox]

Right, but that's not what this is about. It's about why have blacks been feared forever? I mean really, why? What did we ever do?

Blacks aren't so feared as you might think. Jews have been feared, Asians are feared, and so are whites.

I fear blacks because I can't dance or play b-ball.

[Raptor Jesus]

...the white man wasn't the enemy and that the only way for us to save ourselves was to save each other.

qft...

[lala]

What about aboriginies, they are known as one of the oldest races . . . and the true abo is black, and aren't we ment to be all related . . . the colour of your skin is only determined by the amount of melanin your body produces?
Plus found this, which is food for thought!



Q . . .Who was the first black person on earth

A . . The first Black Person on Earth was undoubtedly the first humanoid as all Man's ancestors evolved in Southern Africa. ( Where I live). Its pretty good to have black skin in a hot, sunny environment as the higher degree of melanin ( the stuff that determines skin colour) in the skin provides protection against ultra-violet rays.
Recent archeology ( and things change as new discoveries are made) suggests that there were at least four primitive humanoid species inhabiting Southern Africa at the same time, but they were not modern humans ( like us), Homo Sapiens Sapiens.
The first of these appeared about 100,000 years ago. Traces of them have been found in caves just North of Cape Town. Archeological finds and DNA research has painted a picture of their progress across Southern Africa to the area now Northern Natal and Mozambique where they were bottled up for several generations by climate changes that created an impenetrable desert right across Africa. Humanity nearly became extinct then as DNA differences between all people are so slight that humanity's population levels must have dropped to a couple of thousand. The Khoisan people ( the only indiginous people of Southern Africa), once called Bushmen have a light honey colour skin as the coastal areas have a mediterranean climate and the inland uplands a temperate climate--one did not have to be too dark.
By and by, as conditions improved, Humans migrated North following the Great Rift valley--the same route more primitive homonids had taken. Undoubtedly, as sunlight increased darker skinned people prospered more, had more offspring and the race became darker. In such a climate it was also effective to have long, spindly bodies with a small surface area.
Humans crossed the Red Sea into Arabia, then a land of flowing rivers and lakes and stayed for a long time as a Northern route was closed due to Glaciation. A route did open up to India and beyond and people had arrived ( the aboriginies) in Australia by 50,000 years ago.
A later route opened up into central asia allowing a migration right across Asia and on into the Americas. The cold climate and bitter winds favoured people who had shorter, stockier bodies and eye-folds that resisted the wind.
The very last route to open up was a circular route that led from West Asia into modern day Europe. In the middle of an ice age the climate favoured the loss of melanin ( as less melanin means that sunlight can promote the production of Vitamin A in the body) therefore lighter people, blue eyes see better in the misty, poor light.
The very small population numbers meant that early Europeans were probably more closely related than other groups which is why there is less diversity today in colouring and appearance than in other populations.
Moral of the story. We are all descended from a scientific Adam who lived in the Cape about 100,000 years ago--he was probably neither black or white--most likely a fetching light bown.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_was_this_first_black_person_on_earth

[MrPenny]

Maybe the Chinese are the devils. They're currently fucking over blacks as we speak. And it isn't even the sneaky racism you can find in this country. It's blatant as hell. And it wasn't uncommon to find many whites held as slaves in past centuries. Blacks bore the brunt of slavery in the 16th and 17th centuries by virtue of economies of scale.....there were a lot of Africans willing to sell other, less desirable Africans, off as slaves. That point is often conveniently passed over....many of the slaves from Africa were sold into that plight by other blacks.

I don't think it had anything to do with fear......more of a complete disregard.

The black man is god? Well of course he is.....and he looks just like Morgan Freeman. Maybe.....he might look like George Burns.

There's no point even trying to decide which is superior, Islam or Christianity. Neither of them has any draw for me.

[egg]

I wasn't aware that blacks were always feared... In fact, unfortunately for Black Africans, I don't think that most of the white colonialists feared them enough. If they did maybe things would have gone better for them. I think the Europeans thought, "Easy pickings" by and large.
As for the rest of it, I think that white people had their share of hard times at the hands of other races and, unless we as a species evolves very soon, will have some very hard times coming in the next 50 to 200 years.

[MrPenny]

Anyway, accord to Muhammad the black race has no birth record. What was he trying to say here? That our roots can't be traced back or something? If so that's bullshit because we came from Africa. Wtf am I missing here?

I think what he is referring to is the incredible difficulty in tracing the geneaology of black people in America. Beyond a certain point, birth records are a muddled mess, or don't exist at all. Many black slaves simply took the name of their "owner" ( that's repugnant to me to even write that ).

For an incredible amount of time, blacks weren't allowed to learn how to read or write....hence, they could not sign a signature to documents. Further confusing the record keeping.

[egg]

And it wasn't uncommon to find many whites held as slaves in past centuries. Blacks bore the brunt of slavery in the 16th and 17th centuries by virtue of economies of scale.....there were a lot of Africans willing to sell other, less desirable Africans, off as slaves. That point is often conveniently passed over....many of the slaves from Africa were sold into that plight by other blacks.

True. Sure to be true that the Moors took their fair share of white people back with them through Africa and into the Mid East.

I don't know if they took any slaves but, the Chinese killed of a large settlement of white people living in the Gobi desert once upon a time. Plus, there is quite a lot of evidence proving the Euro settlers, well - well before Columbus, got the crap kicked out of them by Native Americans. I'm quite sure some were taken away as slaves since that was the way of many Native Americans.

As for one religion being empirically better than another, this dude can go fuck himself.... was that too harsh?

[Alessandra]

there is only one race; the Human race. End of story.

[egg]

there is only one race; the Human race. End of story.

To be dominated over by the Sith ...I see right through you.

[Alessandra]

Noooo, not at all. The Sith have nothing to do with it.
>.>

[Ima Nasshole]

Right, but that's not what this is about. It's about why have blacks been feared forever. I mean really, why? What did we ever do?
It's all a myth perpetuated by the race hustlers and the left leaning media. I and most of my peers are truly no more "afraid" of you than we are of any other person or race of people of which we have no knowledge of or interest in. And it's not really fear, it's more distrust than anything else.

Most people who are "afraid" are nothing more than ignorant and or uneducated. Their fear is most likely due to too much time spent in front of the tv. Think about the images in the days after Katrina, people up to their waists in water and most of the images flashing across the screens are of black people looting boom boxes and big screen tv's.

I don't fear you dude, unless of course you were standing there buck naked stroking your dong... and even then, it wouldn't be because you're black.

[theeindiee]

the white man is actually an albino reptilioid race from alpha draconis. We were used to mating with barbs instead of penises, so that's why ours are usually cold and thin like a limp wet noodle in the breeze, short, and slanted.

And that's why we hiss whenever the black man tries to save the supply of blood sacrifice children stored in the basement of the building adjacent to the basement of the Vatican.

We know Jesus was black. That's why we killed him. Can't have the black man save humanity with love. The white man must prevail and turn the world into one giant silicon chip, ruled by Bill-Gates-asaurus Rex.

[theeindiee]

Zeig Heil to our new World Fuhrer Billdolf Gatesler, and may all blacks and people who love and feel emotion be stuck into our new top secret underground ovens.

[Alessandra]

:facepalm:

[Alessandra]

With indiees reply, i'd prefer to be conquered by the Sith. :facepalm:

[theeindiee]

You disagree!?!? Oven!!!

[Alessandra]

Shut up indiee *force choke*

[theeindiee]

See... they all wanna kill me.

[Alessandra]

not kill, just maim

[anarch]

.....Your adopted with white parents aren't you?

None race is better than the other. If Jesus was real he most like was neither white nor black but Arab based on the location and racial make up of where he was born.

I personally do not fear black people. Or mexicans or asains for that matter.

Black Islam and the superiority of the black race...Is this the best we can expect of you? Was this thread your peak? Does your life revolve around the color of your arms and talking about it online when you not to busy trying to cyber'? Theirs a whole world out there, you shouldn't confine it BET approved subject matter.

[Hazelnut]

You don't just fear someone or something for no damn reason. And that would be a damn good reason for the world to fear blacks esp as much as it has.

Thoughts?

Not that your entire post wasn't worthy of serious contemplation, this part just called out to me.

You're absolutely right and I have no answers. I'm white. Irish heritage from a family that is partly racist. Meaning factions within my extended family have bigoted ideas. But I don't.

I never understood them and can't fathom the ignorance. Maybe it was fear all along.

I feel for the downtrodden and abused wherever they are suffering.

Black people today have a heritage of misery as do other genetic groups.

Anyway. I'm not the one who did it and wish I could avoid the blame my ethnic group deserves for the atrocities it has committed on other people, animals and the planet.

I'm sorry for everyone who has been hurt by stupid assholes.

[Ima Nasshole]

I'm sorry for everyone who has been hurt by stupid assholes.
If only it were that easy. Because some people profit from race being in the limelight a heartfelt apology will never suffice. Besides... neither the perpetrators nor the victims are here to offer or accept such an apology... Racism in America will never die, unless we have someone else to oppress, like aliens.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

.....Your adopted with white parents aren't you?

What?! Anarch you're just talking outta your ass man.





Black Islam and the superiority of the black race...Is this the best we can expect of you? Was this thread your peak? Does your life revolve around the color of your arms and talking about it online when you not to busy trying to cyber'? Theirs a whole world out there, you shouldn't confine it BET approved subject matter.

Hop off my fucking nuts. You evidently didn't have as much of a prob with the thread as you're acting like or else you wouldn't have posted in it. I'm getting sick and tired of going back and forth with you all the time man. Go fuck your wife or something.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

not kill, just maim

LMFAO

[theeindiee]

I was in juvie for a month and then rehab for 4 months when I was 16-17, and some of the best friends you'll ever have are your cell/room mates. Most of which were from what they termed the "sticky ickys" of the Chicago Housing Projects.

That's actually where I overcame my irrational fear of ethnicities. My first cell mate was this scary looking black dude, I mean a "hard-nigga", named Latarius. I think he'd been shot about 5 different times. I'm not one for awkward silence, so I think after about a handful of minutes or so I just said fuck it and started rambling about something. What an unlikely pair of cellmates... a skrawny long haired whitey punk rocker and a ghetto-ass black dude from the projects. Turned out to be one of the most interesting people I think I've ever met, before or since.

[Ima Nasshole]

What an unlikely pair of cellmates... a skrawny long haired whitey punk rocker and a ghetto-ass black dude from the projects. Turned out to be one of the most interesting people I think I've ever met, before or since.
By any chance did his dick taste like shit?

[lala]

Saw this on my travels might find some interesting tip bits . . . Its from some old book . . . :D
100 Facts About The Blackman


http://www.angelfire.com/realm/ebn/features/100facts.html

[MissSilver]

might be off topic a bit but regardless of skin color, language and ethnicity, a baby anywhere in the world will call his/her mother "mama" the first time they speak out.


Evolution is one odd duck and I do not believe that all humans are decedent from one colored race. There are too many differences between races, slight ones, that is debatable that we do not spring from one single source.

[Cogburn]

might be off topic a bit but regardless of skin color, language and ethnicity, a baby anywhere in the world will call his/her mother "mama" the first time they speak out.


Evolution is one odd duck and I do not believe that all humans are decedent from one colored race. There are too many differences between races, slight ones, that is debatable that we do not spring from one single source.
There's one race of humans: homo sapien.

If you continue to attempt to define human beings as one would breeds of dog you would be standing on the same side of the fence as the denizens of stormfront.org (www.stormfront.org) and not on the side of science.

Genetic distinctions between human beings that you claim simply aren't there.

I'm going to go vomit now.

[Lexion]

This thread is so full of
fail, I may just vomit.

IEF, get the fuck over being
black.

[MissSilver]

There's one race of humans: homo sapien.

If you continue to attempt to define human beings as one would breeds of dog you would be standing on the same side of the fence as the denizens of stormfront.org (http://www.stormfront.org) and not on the side of science.

Genetic distinctions between human beings that you claim simply aren't there.

I'm going to go vomit now.


DO not forget to clench your teeth together, let the liquid seep out and swallow some to save for later Cog.


Theories are what they are Theories and unproven, most of them.

It might have been the case at first, that all humans had all the same skin color and attributes but something must have happened somewhere to create diverse colors and attributes amongst humans.

I do not believe that a bunch of humans decided to migrate, there and there and there that would account for the color of their skin, loss of color of their skin, change of color in their skin at the DNA level.

[Hazelnut]

If only it were that easy. Because some people profit from race being in the limelight a heartfelt apology will never suffice. Besides... neither the perpetrators nor the victims are here to offer or accept such an apology... Racism in America will never die, unless we have someone else to oppress, like aliens.

Whether you or anyone accepts or agrees, those are my feelings.

[Alessandra]

babies cry in the 'accent' of their country.

French babies have a french cry

Germans a german cry

I'm assuming british babies say "oi guv'na lemme have a bit of that tit"

[Cogburn]

DO not forget to clench your teeth together, let the liquid seep out and swallow some to save for later Cog.


Theories are what they are Theories and unproven, most of them.

It might have been the case at first, that all humans had all the same skin color and attributes but something must have happened somewhere to create diverse colors and attributes amongst humans.

I do not believe that a bunch of humans decided to migrate, there and there and there that would account for the color of their skin, loss of color of their skin, change of color in their skin at the DNA level.
Wow.

I mean, it's cool that you want to believe all that crap but you do so contrary to the face of reality.

So as opposed to reasoning such as social, cultural, or economic, you choose to found your bigotry on a complete and total ignorance of modern genetics.

I think I have a few more heaves left....

[MrPenny]

all humans had all the same skin color and attributes but something must have happened somewhere to create diverse colors and attributes amongst humans.

That's friggin' bizarre.

"diverse colors".......did you really type that out?

[MissSilver]

Wow.

I mean, it's cool that you want to believe all that crap but you do so contrary to the face of reality.

So as opposed to reasoning such as social, cultural, or economic, you choose to found your bigotry on a complete and total ignorance of modern genetics.

I think I have a few more heaves left....

Be my guest, keep on heaving.


I do not have any explanation nor does anyone else beside "theories" and that is what they are, "theories"


So no, I do not believe this we are all out of Africa "theory" If it makes me a bigot in your eyes, so be it. It will not make me loose any sleep over your beliefs and it is futile to debate this with you considering you made your views clear by labeling me a bigot.

Hard core men of science are no different than bible thumpers.


I never believed that there is a supreme or master race either or that some race are less intelligent than other ones. Everyone is part of the whole and I will befriend anyone who are not assholes.

granted I have different views than yours, so I hope you saved some chunks to blow later on.

[MissSilver]

That's friggin' bizarre.

"diverse colors".......did you really type that out?

I guess I did.

Is there a more correct way to define the difference of >insert word here< between races?

[Lexion]

I guess I did.

Is there a more correct way to define the difference of >insert word here< between races?

Clothes ?

Cultures ?

Cars we drive ?

Rims we put on said cars ?

[MissSilver]

babies cry in the 'accent' of their country.

French babies have a french cry

Germans a german cry


How does that sound?

[anarch]

There's one race of humans: homo sapien.

If you continue to attempt to define human beings as one would breeds of dog you would be standing on the same side of the fence as the denizens of stormfront.org (http://www.stormfront.org) and not on the side of science.

Genetic distinctions between human beings that you claim simply aren't there.

I'm going to go vomit now.

Wow, Aren't you a special breed of cock sucker tonight?

One race of humans? Really? http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_the_different_human_races

You sure about that?

And yeah their are genetic distinctions between us. From the Pygmies in Africa to the Inuit of the arctic they're many different breeds of human. And many kinds of muts. White muts, black muts, brown muts, yellow muts , red muts, ....Me and her are both white muts ourselves.

And you wanna label us racists because we do not buy the out of Africa theory?

How intellectually bigoted of yourself.

Neanderthals, Homo Habilis , Homo ergaster, Homo erectus , Homo pekinensis so and and so forth. Ancient humans came in variety and so do modern humans.

Some are white with red hair and green eyes and some are yellow with black hair and black eyes. Some are tall and some are really small (pygmies). No one theory has proved conclusive enough to be called scientific fact but you wanna call Miss Silver a racist because she does not believe their is enough evidence for a particular theory you believe in...

Yuap. Intellectual Bigot. Thats what you are Cogburn.

[pack3tg0st]

How does that sound?

German: 'Waaaaahhhhh DIE JEW !'

French: 'waaahhhh we surrender'

too easy.

[Lexion]

Yuap. Intellectual Bigot. Thats what you are Cogburn.

Oh God.

Here we go.........

[Ima Nasshole]

There are too many differences between races, slight ones, that is debatable that we do not spring from one single source.
Considering the Genome... there is not much that separates us from the chimps...

[anarch]

Oh God.

Here we go.........

I just find his remarks to be full of bullshit. I would never marry a racist. Hating on folks based on skin color is pretty fucken stupid. Their are so many better better more rational reasons to despise people. Like egotistical delusions of superiority based on being the brightest apple in the basket.

[Ima Nasshole]

I just find his remarks to be full of bullshit. I would never marry a racist. Hating on folks based on skin color is pretty fucken stupid. Their are so many better better more rational reasons to despise people. Like egotistical delusions of superiority based on being the brightest apple in the basket.
QFT...

[Pam]

A dog is a dog regardless of breed, a cat is a cat regardless of breed, a human is a human regardless of breed.

Just trying to see how many times I could say regardless in one sentence :D

[MissSilver]

Considering the Genome... there is not much that separates us from the chimps...


That is true.


Yet, I do not believe we will ever find the missing link for there might not be one to be found.

You are right, beside opposable thumbs there ain't much that separate us from chimps or acting like them.

[Alessandra]

A dog is a dog regardless of breed, a cat is a cat regardless of breed, a human is a human regardless of breed.



QFT

Anarch quit being a fucking baby. We're all HUMANS.

Why should any thing else beyond that matter at all?

[Raptor Jesus]

Pack3tg0st:



German: 'Waaaaahhhhh DIE JEW !'

French: 'waaahhhh we surrender'

American: 'waaaahhhh die Muslim/Latin American/Korean/Vietnamese'


too easy, asshole.

[Ima Nasshole]

That is true.


Yet, I do not believe we will ever find the missing link for there might not be one to be found.

You are right, beside opposable thumbs there ain't much that separate us from chimps or acting like them.
I saw a 46 year old chimp in diapers the other day, it might be a little closer than we all care to admit. lol

[anarch]

QFT

Anarch quit being a fucking baby. We're all HUMANS.

Why should any thing else beyond that matter at all?

Your kinda going at it with the baby stuff tonight. You pregnant?

I'm just standing up for my wife against a moronic assumption that she's a racist because she doesn't believe the out of Africa theory.

And I agree with Pam too. We got many different breeds of humans but we all remain human. I also believe in our equality. Some folks may see better at night and some folks my be stronger with higher metabolisms, and some folks might be really short but we are all equal in that we all bleed red blood and we all die.

We can hate on each other over stupid ass arbitrary distinctions or we can get the fuck over ourselves and work together to build some kind better future.

[MissSilver]

We're all HUMANS.

Why should any thing else beyond that matter at all?


We are all sprung from mother earth.

Some humans seems to feel superior than all of the creation that surrounds it.

[pack3tg0st]

Pack3tg0st:



too easy, asshole.


Hey!

We're friends with the Koreans now.

:D

[Alessandra]

Your kinda going at it with the baby stuff tonight. You pregnant?

.


haha, what, 2 posts about babies and I'm labeled pregnant? Jesus Tapdancing Christ.

[anarch]

What?! Anarch you're just talking outta your ass man.


No, I'm just wondering why you feel the need to put so much emphasis on the color of your skin so often.

[anarch]

haha, what, 2 posts about babies and I'm labeled pregnant? Jesus Tapdancing Christ.

Just asking a question here not applying labels.

[Alessandra]

Using skin color to win a debate/contest/job/etc

makes you a royal jackass, and unfit to be human, IMO.

[Alessandra]

Just asking a question here not applying labels.

:P

[Alessandra]

also, broke 4k posts~

[MissSilver]

Using skin color to win a debate/contest/job/etc

makes you a royal jackass, and unfit to be human, IMO.

There are a lot of humans that are unfit for the title.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

This thread is so full of
fail, I may just vomit.

Cry me a fucking river lex. It's a goddamn thread. You act like I make threads about being black all the goddamn time or something. Fuck outta here.


IEF, get the fuck over being
black.

LMFAO. The irony of this fail ass statement. I think it's yall who should get the fuck over me being black. Seeing as half the board loves to call me a damn nigger all the time. Epic fail@computer racists.

[MissSilver]

also, broke 4k posts~

Congrat!

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

I just find his remarks to be full of bullshit. I would never marry a racist. Hating on folks based on skin color is pretty fucken stupid. Their are so many better better more rational reasons to despise people. Like egotistical delusions of superiority based on being the brightest apple in the basket.

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa86/etothedouble/rockclap.gif

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[skunk]

IEF half the board hasn't dropped the n-bomb period, let alone called you one.

Stop making broad generalizations.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

IEF half the board hasn't dropped the n-bomb period, let alone called you one.

This statement is so full of shit it's utterly ridiculous. I can dig up countless threads where fuckboys have called me a nigger left and right.

[skunk]

I can think of a handful of people IEF (who called you that for trolling purposes, not due to hatred of people of color), that is nowhere near half the board.

[Raptor Jesus]

Like egotistical delusions of superiority based on being the brightest apple in the basket.


Intelligence is overrated. Honesty, sincerety + integrity are much more important. Plenty of clever spineless types out there.


IEF,
That ain't half the board. Royal, Cog, a couple of others. Make a list, it's no more than 5 people.

[anarch]

Lets start from IEFs OP.


Awhile back I read messeage to the black man in America by Elijah Muhammad. He's a member of the NOI. The book basically contains propaganda that clearly tries to influence the reader into believe 2 things:

1. The white man is the devil (I don't necessarily believe that, but make no mistake the white race has done their fair share of evil, just look at history people)

2. The black man is god (Don't necessarily believe this either but I'll explain why it might be feasible)

3. Islam>christianity (I DAMN sure don't believe this)



Ok statements made questions and answer time.



Anyway, accord to Muhammad the black race has no birth record. What was he trying to say here?

No idea. I thought Muhammad was Arab.




That our roots can't be traced back or something?

Maybe. Given a long enough genological timeline everyone loses track. Who here can trace their roots back 5000 years? 2000 years? 1000 years? 100?





If so that's bullshit because we came from Africa. Wtf am I missing here?
The "out of Africa" Theory is still just a theory. Native australians are black, maybe we come from Australia. Maybe the flying spaghetti monster made us in the image he wanted us to consume spaghetti in. What are you missing? Too vague a question to rationally answer.



Now as for why I believe number 2's feasible, well just think about it. The black man has GOT to be in someway superior for us to have been considered a threat ever since the beginning of time.

So you believe in black supremacy then? That blacks are the master race? Would that be African black or Australian black?




I mean seriously, when people feel threatened by others all the time they're basically insecure. Which begs the question, why for the longest times has pretty much the whole fucking world tried to censor the black man?

I was not aware of the world wide conspiracy to censor black people.





According to Muhammad it's because we're the original man, the ONLY children of god, and all kinds of other shit. IMO, some of it HAS to be true. You don't just fear someone or something for no damn reason. And that would be a damn good reason for the world to fear blacks esp as much as it has.

Thoughts?

Thoughts... I think the world does not fear black people. Mexicans,Orientals,Blacks, Whites, the world is a variety of people who come from a variety of cultures and nations. Black folks from the USA are VERY different from black folks from Sudan or Congo or Australia or UK or Canada. I doubt black jews from Ethiopia feel the world fears them.

Their is more than one race and culture on this planet. No body is perfect. No one race or culture is the best above all others. The world s a big place, its kind of a waste to define the world and yourself by your skin color. Doing so separates you from all the world as to offer.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

I can think of a handful of people IEF, that is nowhere near half the board.

Ok, so perhaps when I said half of the board it was a bit of an overstatement. But it's still happened. And I'm highly sure it'll continue to happen. It's all good though. I've said it before and I'll say it again, if one has to resort to racial slurs everytime I get them on the ropes, they're pretty much pathetic.

[Pam]

The only people I fear are Psycho's, they are unpredictable.

[anarch]

Intelligence is overrated. Honesty, sincerety + integrity are much more important. Plenty of clever spineless types out there.


agreed!



IEF,
That ain't half the board. Royal, Cog, a couple of others. Make a list, it's no more than 5 people.
.....

Many of us have called IEF nigga. Some have called him a nigger. Very few have thrown around these labels as racial hate. Amkoid Guy/zuzz has past him....I can't think of any.

In my neck of the woods Mexicans call white folk whetto as a term of racial hate. Mexicans get called spics as a term of racial hate. These same words get thrown around in conversation not as racial hatred epitaphs but just bullshiting with your friends.

IEF talks about his blackness A LOT! He may not realize this of himself but many others around here see it. You do IEF. You talk about your blackness A FREAKING LOT! Folks throwing around the word nigga in response to so many threads and posts about black skin color is kind of an inevitability.

If I start focusing my threads and posts about white skin color subject matter I would expect to read posts in response to utilize words like Honkey and cracker maybe even skeet.

Lots of folks have dropped the"Nbomb" on IEF. It has less to do with hating on any kind of skin color and a hell of alot more with his own focus on his black pride.

[anarch]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, if one has to resort to racial slurs everytime I get them on the ropes, they're pretty much pathetic.

Level the playing field http://www.rsdb.org/

[Raptor Jesus]

These same words get thrown around in conversation not as racial hatred epitaphs but just bullshiting with your friends.


I know what you're saying I've done the same myself... I was just correcting him on the numbers...

I think he secretly gets off on it.

[Alessandra]

Congrat!
ty!

[skunk]

1. The white man is the devil (I don't necessarily believe that, but make no mistake the white race has done their fair share of evil, just look at history people)

The same goes for every other group of people.

No one is innocent.

By the way, did you know Africans sold other Africans into slavery?


Anyway, accord to Muhammad the black race has no birth record. What was he trying to say here? That our roots can't be traced back or something? If so that's bullshit because we came from Africa. Wtf am I missing here?

What do you mean "black race"? I assume you're referring to African-Americans, correct?

The answer is yes, it is very difficult to track the genealogy/lineage of most African-Americans because of the broken line during slavery.

Millions of able-bodied men and women were ripped from their homes, and typically sent on ships with people who did not speak the same language, in hopes they would not be able to communicate and revolt.

Did you know most African slaves were taken from West Africa, more specifically Ghana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Ghana)?

Ghana also contains the highest concentration of slave castles...I've been to a few myself (Cape Coast Castle and Fort Prinzenstein in the Keta region).


Now as for why I believe number 2's feasible, well just think about it. The black man has GOT to be in someway superior for us to have been considered a threat ever since the beginning of time. I mean seriously, when people feel threatened by others all the time they're basically insecure. Which begs the question, why for the longest times has pretty much the whole fucking world tried to censor the black man? According to Muhammad it's because we're the original man, the ONLY children of god, and all kinds of other shit. IMO, some of it HAS to be true. You don't just fear someone or something for no damn reason. And that would be a damn good reason for the world to fear blacks esp as much as it has.

Why do you assume africans are somehow superior than other peoples?

Because they have been oppressed?

The theory of human migration says homo sapiens evolved out of sub-saharan Africa, roundabouts Ethiopia in the Great Rift Valley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Rift_Valley#Discoveries_in_human_evolution).

Interestingly enough though, some of the oldest fossils of homo sapiens are of indigenous Australians (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10330330), who also happen to be black.

[Alessandra]

fuck. Aussies.

[Raptor Jesus]

fuck Aussies.

fixt

[Ima Nasshole]

Reverting back to the OP, I can think of one black man that does not possess a "birth record". Here's a hint...


...He lives in a big white house.

[Alessandra]

fixt


lol

[century]

The black man has GOT to be in someway superior for us to have been considered a threat ever since the beginning of time.


A threat, get the fuck outta hear. Africans were never considered a threat, only an asset.

[guinnessford]

No, only some guy Barry from the county Hawaii, country Africa.

[Cogburn]

Hard core men of science are no different than bible thumpers.
Take the word "racism" itself. You seem to like to use it, because it reinforces your world view that there are different "races" of people like there are different "races" or "breed" of horse.

You would now redouble your efforts at defending your bigotry by decrying science, yet claiming the warm cloak of "it's just a theory"?

You don't know how to comprise a decent theory, much less go about exploring one, so how about you just call it what it is: an irrational belief.

Like some Gallelian carpenter rose from the dead to save our souls two thousand years ago, or that the Galactic Federation of Light ignited the planet Jupiter in March of 2009.

+1 for IEF for making the crazies come out.

[anarch]

Take the word "racism" itself. You seem to like to use it, because it reinforces your world view that there are different "races" of people like there are different "races" or "breed" of horse.

You would now redouble your efforts at defending your bigotry by decrying science, yet claiming the warm cloak of "it's just a theory"?

You don't know how to comprise a decent theory, much less go about exploring one, so how about you just call it what it is: an irrational belief.

Like some Gallelian carpenter rose from the dead to save our souls two thousand years ago, or that the Galactic Federation of Light ignited the planet Jupiter in March of 2009.

+1 for IEF for making the crazies come out.

The only bigot here is you Cogburn. You seem to think accepting the fact that different races/breeds of humans exist means that you're racist.

I don't subscribe the "Out of Africa Theory" does that make me a racist too? Because I doubt a theory?

[Cogburn]

The only bigot here is you Cogburn. You seem to think accepting the fact that different races/breeds of humans exist means that you're racist.

I don't subscribe the "Out of Africa Theory" does that make me a racist too? Because I doubt a theory?

Go ahead and doubt a theory if you like. Scientific genome research says that the OOA theory is drastically flawed, but it also indicates that there are not significant differences between the genetic makeup of black people, yellow people, white people, or burnt sienna people to make a different sub-species within biological classification.

You, however, would take all such science and dump it on it's head because you don't want to believe that you are somehow related to a black man 500,000 years ago or whatever silly reasoning you have for maintaining your flawed view of reality.

Don't let science stop you in your quest for searching for a place in the world, by all means.

Just don't be surprised if when you get to where you think you should be going that you don't like the company you are with.

[MissSilver]

Take the word "racism" itself. You seem to like to use it, because it reinforces your world view that there are different "races" of people like there are different "races" or "breed" of horse.

You would now redouble your efforts at defending your bigotry by decrying science, yet claiming the warm cloak of "it's just a theory"?

You don't know how to comprise a decent theory, much less go about exploring one, so how about you just call it what it is: an irrational belief.

Like some Gallelian carpenter rose from the dead to save our souls two thousand years ago, or that the Galactic Federation of Light ignited the planet Jupiter in March of 2009.




Guess what

You do not know it all, nobody does and if you want to feel "special" by labeling me a racist or a bigot, fine by me :rolleyes:


+1 for IEF for making the crazies come out.
Only when it agrees with your views :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

meh

[guinnessford]

so, anyone that recognizes different races, is a racist....hmmmm

[MissSilver]

so, anyone that recognizes different races, is a racist....hmmmm


I know, mind boggling isn't it?

[Alessandra]

OH GAWD ITS TEH END OF TEH WORLDZZZZ


shut up and get over the fact we're all one species. HUMAN.

God. Why do we have to point out differences in people?

Hey, look, you're shorter than I am

Hey look, you've got a different skin tone than I.

hey look, you like people your own sex.

we all have

2 eyes

2 ears

1 nose

1 mouth

2 arms and 2 legs

the same nervous system structure

the same cardiovascular system


THERE'S A SHOCKER! GOING UNDERNEATH SKIN TONES...

WE ALL LOOK ALIKE...

BECAUSE WE'RE ALL THE SAME.

fuck off with this "race" shit.

[Cogburn]

Only when it agrees with your views :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

meh

Yeah... IEF and Jackinthebox made the same claim about me.

Funny that folks only start saying that when I show them just how deeply their foot has been inserted into their mouth.

[guinnessford]

I know, mind boggling isn't it?


If you think about it, it makes sense.

Those that recognize aliens are...

those that recognize evolution are....

and those that recognize differnt races are....

but the stigma attached to the leash on that word makes it naughty.

[Cogburn]

so, anyone that recognizes different races, is a racist....hmmmm

There are no different races of human being.

It's one of the most obvious and ubiquitous examples of what George Orwell warned about over 60 years ago: doublespeak in it's purest form.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

.
No idea. I thought Muhammad was Arab.

Wrong. Elijah Muhammad (the author of the book) was black. He's dead though. It's pretty much irrelevant but I felt it necessary to mention




Maybe. Given a long enough genological timeline everyone loses track. Who here can trace their roots back 5000 years? 2000 years? 1000 years? 100?

Fair enough.





The "out of Africa" Theory is still just a theory. Native australians are black, maybe we come from Australia. Maybe the flying spaghetti monster made us in the image he wanted us to consume spaghetti in. What are you missing? Too vague a question to rationally answer.

Just a theory to you.




So you believe in black supremacy then? That blacks are the master race? Would that be African black or Australian black?

Strawman. What I meant was that there has GOT to be something that whites are envious of when it comes to the black race. I mean seriously, the white race has hounded, degraded, and humiliated the black race for years. And YES I know there every race has gone through hell at some point in history, but you can't deny that for some reason or another, the racism toward blacks has been prevalent.





I was not aware of the world wide conspiracy to censor black people.

Again, racism towards blacks has been the most prevalent.






Thoughts... I think the world does not fear black people. Mexicans,Orientals,Blacks, Whites, the world is a variety of people who come from a variety of cultures and nations. Black folks from the USA are VERY different from black folks from Sudan or Congo or Australia or UK or Canada. I doubt black jews from Ethiopia feel the world fears them.

Their is more than one race and culture on this planet. No body is perfect. No one race or culture is the best above all others. The world s a big place, its kind of a waste to define the world and yourself by your skin color. Doing so separates you from all the world as to offer.

See above.

[Cogburn]

Respond-by-quote might be acceptable at ATS, but here we like well expressed, cohesive thoughts.

Try it. You'll like it.

[guinnessford]

There are no different races of human being.

It's one of the most obvious and ubiquitous examples of what George Orwell warned about over 60 years ago: doublespeak in it's purest form.


The hermetic science studying you do should play into this well, Im always dumbfounded by how certain words and phrases have such a wide variety of reactions from groups of people.

racist, just a word of 6 letters but can anger so many instantly.

But the way I broke it down it makes sense to me how easily things can be misunderstood, or unexplained.

[MissSilver]

If you think about it, it makes sense.

Those that recognize aliens are...

those that recognize evolution are....

and those that recognize differnt races are....

but the stigma attached to the leash on that word makes it naughty.

pretty much

Those who doesn't recognize what Godburn recognize are... >insert label here<

[guinnessford]

Strawman. What I meant was that there has GOT to be something that whites are envious of when it comes to the black race. I mean seriously, the white race has hounded, degraded, and humiliated the black race for years. And YES I know there every race has gone through hell at some point in history, but you can't deny that for some reason or another, the racism toward blacks has been prevalent.




Ive always envied the profiling, opression, and sickle cell anemia myself.

[Eyeforalie]

Thoughts?

A) you are racist.

B) You are racist.

C) you are racist.

Um nom nom

[Cogburn]

The hermetic science studying you do should play into this well, Im always dumbfounded by how certain words and phrases have such a wide variety of reactions from groups of people.

racist, just a word of 6 letters but can anger so many instantly.

But the way I broke it down it makes sense to me how easily things can be misunderstood, or unexplained.

Exactly. What you do is create division for no other purpose than the satisfaction of ego, regardless of the justification which is asserted.

The dichotomy between a philosophy where one looks for the differences between individuals as opposed to one which focuses on commonalities has been explored by everyone from Decartes to Jung to Castenada to Watson and Crick: and all of them agree that in the scientifically supported opinion that homo sapiens are homo sapiens, regardless of culture or ethnic origin.

[Cogburn]

pretty much

Those who doesn't recognize what Godburn recognize are... >insert label here<

Yeah, but obviously I'm okay as long as I'm agreeing with you.

You do read this forum, right?

[MissSilver]

Strawman. What I meant was that there has GOT to be something that whites are envious of when it comes to the black race. I mean seriously, the white race has hounded, degraded, and humiliated the black race for years. And YES I know there every race has gone through hell at some point in history, but you can't deny that for some reason or another, the racism toward blacks has been prevalent.


A lot of American Indians would beg to differ IEF.

[anarch]

You, however, would take all such science and dump it on it's head because you don't want to believe that you are somehow related to a black man 500,000 years ago or whatever silly reasoning you have for maintaining your flawed view of reality.


What?

How do you pull that out of your ass just because someone does not believe a theory as you do?

Yeah we are all related.

Do you know of any humans that does not bleed red?

Jesus man get over yourself. You say their are no differences between any humans then go on and on about how much more intelligent you yourself are above the majority of them.

You obviously believe in an intellectual difference between humans.

Yeah people are different. So what Big deal. You chose to deny some differences while emphasizing others.

Hypocritical.

[Cogburn]

Strawman. What I meant was that there has GOT to be something that whites are envious of when it comes to the black race. I mean seriously, the white race has hounded, degraded, and humiliated the black race for years. And YES I know there every race has gone through hell at some point in history, but you can't deny that for some reason or another, the racism toward blacks has been prevalent.You realize you refuted a strawman argument with another one, right?

[skunk]

His statement also implies there is a "white" and "black" race.

[Cogburn]

What?

How do you pull that out of your ass just because someone does not believe a theory as you do?

Yeah we are all related.

Do you know of any humans that does not bleed red?

Jesus man get over yourself. You say their are no differences between any humans then go on and on about how much more intelligent you yourself are above the majority of them.

You obviously believe in an intellectual difference between humans.

Yeah people are different. So what Big deal. You chose to deny some differences while emphasizing others.

Hypocritical.
I guess you just skipped over the second half where I said "or whatever silly reasoning you have for maintaining your flawed view of reality."

What silly reason would that be then, sir?

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

A threat, get the fuck outta hear. Africans were never considered a threat, only an asset.

Ok so why did the same treatment of blacks continue into the 1950's? Blacks weren't pieces of property during that time period but were still treated as subhuman just like in the slavery days. Why? Was the white man bitter that blacks were no longer slaves? Was he scared that karma would come after him? You make the call.

[Alessandra]

and Chii's logic goes ignored, once again.

Fuck off, all of you.

[skunk]

Maybe none of us had anything to add to your statement chi. I nodded in agreement.

Are you as think as I drunk I am?

[Cogburn]

and Chii's logic goes ignored, once again.

Fuck off, all of you.

:lol:

I didn't realize you needed attention, boo boo.

Come sit on daddy's lap while we watch the shitfest.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

You realize you refuted a strawman argument with another one, right?

How so?

[anarch]

What silly reason would that be then, sir?

Their was no silly reason. She never said what you wrote. You read that out of her words that which was not written. Then you jump on this "We are all the same and their is no difference between any humans kick" While you yourself have gone on and on about your own intellectual superiority.

Can't be both ways. We are all either the same or their are differences.

And if their are differences so fucking what? BFD.

Recognizing the differences that make us unique does not make us racists.

Nor does disagreeing with an anthropological theory of our genesis make us racist.

How you jumped to that conclusion is beyond comprehension.

[MissSilver]

Yeah, but obviously I'm okay as long as I'm agreeing with you.

You do read this forum, right?


No, not really Cog.

I always thought you came off as a pompous ass to begin with with an obsessive streak of always feeling the need to always be right.

Sometimes I agree with your statements, sometimes I disagree but never did I came about and labeled you with >insert your fancy here< because I disagreed with something you posted. I just keep silent.

And again, what ever floats your boat man, see me as you see fit to do so, I do not really care.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

A) you are racist.

B) You are racist.

C) you are racist.

Um nom nom

Can I retaliate or are you gonna hack me? :lol:

[Alessandra]

:lol:

I didn't realize you needed attention, boo boo.

Come sit on daddy's lap while we watch the shitfest.


Do I get a lolipop?

[guinnessford]

Exactly. What you do is create division for no other purpose than the satisfaction of ego, regardless of the justification which is asserted.

The dichotomy between a philosophy where one looks for the differences between individuals as opposed to one which focuses on commonalities has been explored by everyone from Decartes to Jung to Castenada to Watson and Crick: and all of them agree that in the scientifically supported opinion that homo sapiens are homo sapiens, regardless of culture or ethnic origin.


Ive met retarded fukkers from all walks of life in my line of work, I can back all of their claims up

[Alessandra]

Maybe none of us had anything to add to your statement chi. I nodded in agreement.

Are you as think as I drunk I am?


what makes u think im drinking :P

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

I always thought you came off as a pompous ass to begin with with an obsessive streak of always feeling the need to always be right.


It's true.

[Cogburn]

No, not really Cog.

I always thought you came off as a pompous ass to begin with with an obsessive streak of always feeling the need to always be right.

Sometimes I agree with your statements, sometimes I disagree but never did I came about and labeled you with >insert your fancy here< because I disagreed with something you posted. I just keep silent.

And again, what ever floats your boat man, see me as you see fit to do so, I do not really care.
You don't like people having an opinion about what you think? Find another forum to post on.

Does it hurt your feelings that I think you have bigoted personal beliefs? Obviously not enough to consider the fact that you might be wrong.

I'm never quite that closed minded about anything, even my own personal beliefs.

I figure it's why to folks like you I come across as a pompous ass and to other folks I'm just someone that isn't afraid to speak their mind.

[guinnessford]

[QUOTE=MissSilver;357832I just keep silent.[/QUOTE]

I bet I can get some words from you....

[Cogburn]

Will we have a post or PMs sent about regarding how I'm driving folks away from this forum?

If past history is any indication of future performance, I vote "yes."

[skunk]

what makes u think im drinking :P

TGIF bitches.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

Folks throwing around the word nigga in response to so many threads and posts about black skin color is kind of an inevitability.

So I guess it's safe to say that when I get you clowns on the ropes it's inevitable the same thing will happen?[/QUOTE]



Lots of folks have dropped the"Nbomb" on IEF. It has less to do with hating on any kind of skin color and a hell of alot more with his own focus on his black pride.

Fuck outta here. It's a last ditch effort when other pre-school ad-homs fail. Nothing more nothing less.

[Alessandra]

TGIF bitches.


haha well fuck, you got me

[skunk]

I could bitch and moan about how IEF skipped my post too, but...Hey why the fuck didn't you respond asshole?

It's all about ME ME ME!!!!!

[guinnessford]

Will we have a post or PMs sent about regarding how I'm driving folks away from this forum?

If past history is any indication of future performance, I vote "yes."


If a member cant find the ignore button, or simply look past a post then they deserve to go back to pre-school.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

haha well fuck, you got me

Stare at me chii. :D

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

I could bitch and moan about how IEF skipped my post too, but...Hey why the fuck didn't you respond asshole?

It's all about ME ME ME!!!!!

I never even knew you had a post for me. Tell me which page it's on.

[skunk]

Well that all depends on how many posts per page you have setup in your user cp doesn't it? I'm currently posting this response on page 4, but that could be page 12 for you.

http://amkon.net/showpost.php?p=357658&postcount=79

[Alessandra]

Stare at me chii. :D

<.<

what would you do if I did, anyway?

[skunk]

I can think of one thing for sure :pound:

[Cogburn]

So let's see...

I'm smarter than everyone.

IEF's dick is bigger than everyone's.

BE is wiser and deeper than everyone.

I quoted BE insulting me in my sig.

BE quotes me insulting him in his sig.

IEF quotes me in his sig in an attempt to insult me.

Anyone else see a pattern here?

[Alessandra]

I'm praying there's a size contest coming up.

[Cogburn]

Yeah, but it's boobs and you're Contestant #1.

[guinnessford]

So let's see...

I'm smarter than everyone.

IEF's dick is bigger than everyone's.

BE is wiser and deeper than everyone.

I quoted BE insulting me in my sig.

BE quotes me insulting him in his sig.

IEF quotes me in his sig in an attempt to insult me.

Anyone else see a pattern here?

WTF, Im always left out.

[Cogburn]

WTF, Im always left out.

You're too nice.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

The same goes for every other group of people.

No one is innocent.

By the way, did you know Africans sold other Africans into slavery?

Duh




What do you mean "black race"? I assume you're referring to African-Americans, correct?

The answer is yes, it is very difficult to track the genealogy/lineage of most African-Americans because of the broken line during slavery.

Millions of able-bodied men and women were ripped from their homes, and typically sent on ships with people who did not speak the same language, in hopes they would not be able to communicate and revolt.

Did you know most African slaves were taken from West Africa, more specifically Ghana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Ghana)?

Ghana also contains the highest concentration of slave castles...I've been to a few myself (Cape Coast Castle and Fort Prinzenstein in the Keta region).

Fair enough.




Why do you assume africans are somehow superior than other peoples?

Because they have been oppressed?

That's part of it. It isn't like the white man said "Hey, lets treat black people like shit just because we feel like it!11!!!!!!" There had to be some reason. And I think the answer lies deep down in the rabbit hole.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

<.<

what would you do if I did, anyway?

Melt. :D

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

So let's see...

I'm smarter than everyone.

IEF's dick is bigger than everyone's.

BE is wiser and deeper than everyone.

I quoted BE insulting me in my sig.

BE quotes me insulting him in his sig.

IEF quotes me in his sig in an attempt to insult me.

Anyone else see a pattern here?

Yeah. It seems like we're the only ones who possess huge egos around here. :lol:

[guinnessford]

You're too nice.


Its cuz im in training I guess.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

Oh yeah cock, you need to revise that list and add that my cock smells better than everyone's. Vanilla smelling cock ftw!

[Alessandra]

Yeah, but it's boobs and you're Contestant #1.
And I'll win.

[Alessandra]

Melt. :D

O_O

[Cogburn]

Yeah. It seems like we're the only ones who possess huge egos around here. :lol:

Sure, but your claims to greatness are a little... flaccid.

[Cogburn]

And I'll win.

We are waiting for your submission before concluding judging.

[Alessandra]

We are waiting for your submission before concluding judging.

Idk, DD's don't need judging.

[Cogburn]

Idk, DD's don't need judging.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight....

So now this is in the land of IEF's 10" dick.

Gotcha.

[guinnessford]

And I'll win.


Sketch pleze

[guinnessford]

Idk, DD's need loving.

fixt well

[Alessandra]

fuck you.
I'll do it. I've had enough to drink.

[Cogburn]

<waits>

[Alessandra]

where u want it lol. and tis only a teasy, sooo

[guinnessford]

fuck you.
I'll do it. I've had enough to drink.




I think thats THE nicest thing youve ever said to me.

And to think, I made sure I wasnt rude.

[skunk]

Anyone else see a pattern here?

One big circle jerk. :circle:

[Cogburn]

where u want it lol. and tis only a teasy, sooo

You can PM it via Tinypic or post it here as an attachment.

Hell, email it to eris and we'll both enjoy it.

I'd enter her contribution, but she got drunk on cosmo's at dinner and passed out.

I was told that that sort of thing is a no-no. :)

[Alessandra]

well i sure as hell dont want it all over Amkon.

[skunk]

And I'll win.

Sketch or it never happened.

[MissSilver]

You don't like people having an opinion about what you think?


I never said that I didn't like, I said that I didn't care.

But please, keep buttering the the bread if you please :)



Find another forum to post on.
Now I begin to understand what another user meant by a mob led by Cog...

[skunk]

well i sure as hell dont want it all over Amkon.

Tits or get the fuck out! Need. New. Fap. Material.

[Cogburn]

Now I begin to understand what another user meant by a mob led by Cog...

... and there it is.

[Alessandra]

ffs.

[guinnessford]

Now I begin to understand what another user meant by a mob led by Cog...

im too nice, remember...post on me....

[guinnessford]

Originally Posted by Alessandra http://amkon.net/Styles/DARK_VB%20GREEN/dark_vb/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://amkon.net/showthread.php?p=357926#post357926)
well i sure as hell dont want it all over Amkon.

secret speshul places

[Alessandra]

no idea how to send it via pm

[Alessandra]

and im not putting it on my photobucket account lol

[century]

no idea how to send it via pm

http://amkon.net/private.php?do=newpm&u=1445

[MissSilver]

I bet I can get some words from you....


You can always try :p

[guinnessford]

and im not putting it on my photobucket account lol


Glad you arent THAT drunk.

[skunk]

and im not putting it on my photobucket account lol

http://imageshack.us/

[guinnessford]

You can always try :p


See, It worked

[Alessandra]

it wont even upload.

[guinnessford]

it wont even upload.


Too big??!!

[MissSilver]

Now I begin to understand what another user meant by a mob led by Cog...

im too nice, remember...post on me....



Yes, you are too nice :sunny:

[Alessandra]

http://amkon.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=482&d=1267857982

its a large pic. I just took it from my phone

edit and yes my shrts on

[guinnessford]

Yes, you are too nice :sunny:


Lemme guess, another "bad boy" chaser?

eh, I can only be bad or mean when I get shit on, ya know?

[guinnessford]

Wait... what?
Invalid Attachment specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator (http://amkon.net/sendmessage.php)

[Cogburn]

Oh ffs...

cogburn805 AT gmail.com

[skunk]

edit and yes my shrts on

Fail.

[Alessandra]

-_-

[Alessandra]

if I took it off, you'd see how fat I was

[anarch]

Wrong. Elijah Muhammad (the author of the book) was black. He's dead though. It's pretty much irrelevant but I felt it necessary to mention.



My bad I thought you meant the Prophet Muhammad and not Elijah Muhammad.

And yes the out of Africa Theory is still just a theory. Humanity may of come from Australia. Then again maybe the expanding earth theory is right? For all we know we are the inbred descendants of Adam and Eve. It all remains theory because we still seek that ever elusive conclusive "proof".










Strawman. What I meant was that there has GOT to be something that whites are envious of when it comes to the black race. I mean seriously, the white race has hounded, degraded, and humiliated the black race for years. And YES I know there every race has gone through hell at some point in history, but you can't deny that for some reason or another, the racism toward blacks has been prevalent. My question about you being a black supremacist was not a straw man. You said in your OP and I quote
The black man has GOT to be in someway superior for us to have been considered a threat ever since the beginning of time. I asked if you think black people are the master race. Your obviously a supremacist to some degree. I also asked which black race do you think is "Supreme" African Black people or Australian Black people?

You also think whites are envious of blacks....you seem to define yourself by this black and white divide. Mexicans, Orientals, Arabs, every other race does not seem to appear on your radar. It's like you only view racial issues through the lens of black vrs white. Has racism been prevalent against Blacks? Yeah sure. Them and everyone else. You want to see REAL cultural discrimination? Look at the caste system of India. Does any one race have some kind of exclusive claim to being the most hated and discriminated against? I don't think so. I'd ask a red skinned man but that is not the easiest thing to do anymore. You think racism towards blacks has been the most prevalent. I'd say the Chinese has a better chance of making that claim based on their population numbers alone.




Jesus man... Their is more to life than Blacks vrs Whites.

[Cogburn]

if I took it off, you'd see how fat I was

inb4lex

[Alessandra]

shut up

[skunk]

I love women of all shapes and sizes.

[century]

I love women of all shapes and sizes.


Me two:D

[guinnessford]

if I took it off, you'd see how fat I was


Another one....If anyone thinks or says your fat, they dont deserve to converse, let alone be blessed with bewbs.


Think Ive said this before, but women are more superficial about themselves than men are with them..

You should be happy with yourself, who gives a rats ass what anyone thinks but you?

[century]

Do it for Snow

[Cogburn]

<checks email>

[MissSilver]

Lemme guess, another "bad boy" chaser?

eh, I can only be bad or mean when I get shit on, ya know?


You got me there LOL. It is one of the thing that attracted me to the hubby.

[guinnessford]

You got me there LOL. It is one of the thing that attracted me to the hubby.


I never got that.

But everyones gotta have a flavor.

Ive also noticed that the better Ive treated a women, the shittier they treated me, or wanted less to do with me, maybe I shoulda tried the asshole routine.

Or at least a little bad boy

[anarch]

You don't like people having an opinion about what you think? Find another forum to post on.

Does it hurt your feelings that I think you have bigoted personal beliefs? Obviously not enough to consider the fact that you might be wrong.

I'm never quite that closed minded about anything, even my own personal beliefs.

I figure it's why to folks like you I come across as a pompous ass and to other folks I'm just someone that isn't afraid to speak their mind.

You have not taken the time to consider that YOU are wrong.

She feels the Out of Africa Theory is wrong and you read that to believe it means she is a racist. How you got to that belief is again, beyond comprehension.

You are an intellectual bigot and you look down upon those that you do not consider your intellectual equal or better. Tell the truth, would you ever befriend someone "slow" some one with an 89 IQ?

You say your not afraid to speak your mind. Would you be willing to go hang out in Compton or Oakland and strike up a conversation with someone there about how their are no differences between humans?

[anarch]

So I guess it's safe to say that when I get you clowns on the ropes it's inevitable the same thing will happen?

I have yet to see you "get" anyone on the "Ropes" IEF.





Fuck outta here. It's a last ditch effort when other pre-school ad-homs fail. Nothing more nothing less.

Really? And what is it when you use the word "Nigga"?

[Cogburn]

You have not taken the time to consider that YOU are wrong.

She feels the Out of Africa Theory is wrong and you read that to believe it means she is a racist. How you got to that belief is again, beyond comprehension.

You are an intellectual bigot and you look down upon those that you do not consider your intellectual equal or better. Tell the truth, would you ever befriend someone "slow" some one with an 89 IQ?

You say your not afraid to speak your mind. Would you be willing to go hang out in Compton or Oakland and strike up a conversation with someone there about how their are no differences between humans?
<yawn>

Intellectual bigot? Absolutely. I hate stupid.

For some reason you keep asserting my comments were based on some mention of the Out of Africa theory, however they were in response to some ridiculous claim that because we don't look alike that we are somehow deeply genetically different.

I say that that is bullshit. I also say that my proof for calling that bullshit also contradicts portions of the Out of Africa theory.

Oh, by the way, my retarded cousin Nick is the least bigoted person I've ever known.

You know why? Because Nick is quite aware of the fact that he doesn't quite get the world the way most other people do and is gifted in his difference that it translates into seeing people for who they are, not how they physically appear.

He taught me a lot. Sounds like it's a lesson you could stand to learn, yourself.

How about this: the next time I take my family to Sunday brunch in Inglewood I'll take videos of the conversations that take place. Folks love talking about that shit there, especially with folks different from them as long as respect is maintained.

If you'd have the balls to do it you'd find that out for yourself.

[MissSilver]

Ive also noticed that the better Ive treated a women, the shittier they treated me, or wanted less to do with me, maybe I shoulda tried the asshole routine.

Or at least a little bad boy


A co worker once told me something about men for she dated a lot that she was always wary about a cute guy who was too nice always had something to hide.

Something about guys who knows they have pleasing physical attributes will play on it or just be players.

I just kept shrugging, telling her that not all cute guys were assholes.

I have met other women thinking along the same lines.

Just be yourself ;)

[anarch]

So let's see...

I'm smarter than everyone.

IEF's dick is bigger than everyone's.

BE is wiser and deeper than everyone.

I quoted BE insulting me in my sig.

BE quotes me insulting him in his sig.

IEF quotes me in his sig in an attempt to insult me.

Anyone else see a pattern here?

You three are real proud of your insults?

Also, that you really do believe in your own intellectualism (Hence your smarts being first in your list) and it cripples your understanding at times because once you have decided your right its tough for you to accept when you are wrong.

[Cogburn]

You three are real proud of your insults?

Also, that you really do believe in your own intellectualism (Hence your smarts being first in your list) and it cripples your understanding at times because once you have decided your right its tough for you to accept when you are wrong.

Except I'm not wrong. The only thing wrong is your perception of my argument.

Perhaps if you stopped being so indignantly righteous and actually read what I post you would at least be uptight for the right reasons.

[anarch]

I'd enter her contribution, but she got drunk on cosmo's at dinner and passed out.




Ahhhh Drinks have been involved... Well that explains things a bit better now.

I remember how bad your reading comprehension was last time you drank absinthe and went a posting here.

[Cogburn]

Thanks for attempting to excuse my behavior, but I'm stone sober. Someone has to drive, and I wouldn't be caught dead drinking a cosmo.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

Sure, but your claims to greatness are a little... flaccid.

If you say so.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

I have yet to see you "get" anyone on the "Ropes" IEF.

You're blind then.






Really? And what is it when you use the word "Nigga"?

A right. Oh wait my bad..I thought you meant when I used the word. Anyway, when YOU use the word it's just stupidity.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

My question about you being a black supremacist was not a straw man.

Yes it was. In my OP I said I didn't necessarily believe that blacks were superior.


You also think whites are envious of blacks...

Of course. What other reasons beside fear, hatred, and ignorance would cause one to hate somebody else?

[Alessandra]

Of course. What other reasons beside fear, hatred, and ignorance would cause one to hate somebody else?

well, thats a bit obvious, isnt it? :D

[anarch]

<yawn>

Intellectual bigot? Absolutely. I hate stupid.

I wonder how many here you hate based on that.



For some reason you keep asserting my comments were based on some mention of the Out of Africa theory, however they were in response to some ridiculous claim that because we don't look alike that we are somehow deeply genetically different.

We are all different. Unique. Genetically no two exactly alike. Because our subtle differences are acknowledged that makes the observer a racist.

You got issues Cog.






Oh, by the way, my retarded cousin Nick is the least bigoted person I've ever known.

You know why? Because Nick is quite aware of the fact that he doesn't quite get the world the way most other people do and is gifted in his difference that it translates into seeing people for who they are, not how they physically appear.

He taught me a lot. Sounds like it's a lesson you could stand to learn, yourself.

I don't hate stupid people. How smart a person is does not translate to the quality of their character a lesson Nick has yet to impart upon you.




If you'd have the balls to do it you'd find that out for yourself.

Indeed. I doubt you'll video tape anything in Inglewood. Rest assured I have the balls to stand up for the principles of my convictions. I can also admit my faults and fess up when and where I am wrong.

[Cogburn]

What other reasons beside fear, hatred, and ignorance would cause one to hate somebody else?

You answered your own question.

Ignorance: the unknown of difference.

Regardless from where you start, if you focus on what makes us different you will never see how we are the same.

[anarch]

Except I'm not wrong. The only thing wrong is your perception of my argument.

Perhaps if you stopped being so indignantly righteous and actually read what I post you would at least be uptight for the right reasons.

It's always someone else that is wrong.

I read what you post.

Its sometimes insightful, sometimes entertaining , and sometime pitiful.

[Cogburn]

I wonder how many here you hate based on that.

We are all different. Unique. Genetically no two exactly alike. Because our subtle differences are acknowledged that makes the observer a racist.

You got issues Cog.

I don't hate stupid people. How smart a person is does not translate to the quality of their character a lesson Nick has yet to impart upon you.

Indeed. I doubt you'll video tape anything in Inglewood. Rest assured I have the balls to stand up for the principles of my convictions. I can also admit my faults and fess up when and where I am wrong.
Note I said "deeply" different. You seem to have the predilection for taking my statements out of context to support your silly point or in an attempt to insult me as opposed to defending your position.

I don't judge people by their intellect as you would characterize me as doing: I judge people by what their intellect inspires them to do, and in turn what actions they inspire in others.

Consider your position within that light and you'll know exactly what I think of you and your lady's "theory".

[Cogburn]

Its sometimes insightful, sometimes entertaining , and sometime pitiful.

Welcome to AmKon.

[anarch]

You're blind then.

No not blind. I have a balanced understanding.






A right. Oh wait my bad..I thought you meant when I used the word. Anyway, when YOU use the word it's just stupidity.

So when you use the word nigga it's a right. When I use the word nigga it's stupidity.

I still want to know which black race you consider the supreme race?

African Blacks or Australian Blacks?

[anarch]

Yes it was. In my OP I said I didn't necessarily believe that blacks were superior.


Check your OP that is exactly what you said thats why I quoted you.



Of course. What other reasons beside fear, hatred, and ignorance would cause one to hate somebody else?

...Stupidity?

[anarch]

Note I said "deeply" different. You seem to have the predilection for taking my statements out of context to support your silly point or in an attempt to insult me as opposed to defending your position.

I don't judge people by their intellect as you would characterize me as doing: I judge people by what their intellect inspires them to do, and in turn what actions they inspire in others.

Consider your position within that light and you'll know exactly what I think of you and your lady's "theory".

Neanderthals, Homo Habilis , Homo ergaster, Homo erectus , Homo pekinensis Homo heidelbergensis so and and so forth. Ancient humans came in variety and so do modern humans.

Science says all those others died save but one which evolved into the current day us.


What are the different human races?


Answer:

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Over time many different racial classifications have existing numbering anywhere between 6 and several hundred. Below are a few of these.




Khoid (Hottentot) race
Sanid (Bushmen) race
Central Congoid race (Geographic center and origin in the Congo river basin)
Bambutid race (African Pygmies)
Aethiopid race (Ethiopia, Somalia)
Mediterranid race (from Mediterranean areas)
Dinaric race (predominant in western Balkans [Dinaric Mountains] and northern Italy)
Alpine race
Ladogan race (named after Lake Ladoga; indigenous to Russia; includes Lappish subrace of arctic Europe)
Nordish or Northern European race
Armenid race (Armenia, Syria, Lebanon and northern Iraq)
Turanid race (Kazakhstan, Hungary and Turkey)
Irano-Afghan race (Iran and Afghanistan, Iraq, Turkey)
Indic or Nordindid race (Pakistan and northern India)
Dravidic race (India, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka)
Veddoid race (remnant Australoid population in central and southern India) Melanesian race (New Guinea, Papua, Solomon Islands)
Australian-Tasmanian race (Australian Aborigines)
Northeast Asian or Northern Mogoloid race (China, Manchuria, Korea and Japan)
Southeast Asian or Southern Mongoloid race (China, Indochina, Thailand, Myanmar [Burma], Malaysia, Indonesia and the Philippines)
Micronesian-Polynesian race
Ainuid race (remnants of aboriginal population in northern Japan)
Tungid race (Mongolia and Siberia, Eskimos)
Amerindian race (American Indians)

So she thinks the variety of todays humans evolved from a variety of proto humans.

So what? I fail to see how that means she hates people based upon their skin color. Explain that.

[MissSilver]

There are too many differences between races, slight ones, that is debatable that we do not spring from one single source.




For some reason you keep asserting my comments were based on some mention of the Out of Africa theory, however they were in response to some ridiculous claim that because we don't look alike that we are somehow deeply genetically different.


please try not to distort what was said.

Most Asians are born with a small layer of fat that shows on their eyelids, if we are all the same DNA wise, how come it is not predominant in all humanity?

Both my mother and my father were born with brown eyes and yet, my sister and I were born with blue eyes, what accounts for that?

Different genes.

I am a big mixing pot with different origins and proud of every single strand that is my genome.

What I believe is different than your beliefs.

The man who sold us the property in southern missouri was telling us on how back then, a black man "dared" to date and live with a white woman, that him and his buddies ganged up and burned their house down to teach them a lesson. I was clenching my fists so hard that some of my nails left some bloody marks on my palms and the hubby was about to tell him to get the fuck off our land.

It was the first time we had ever met the sick fuck, after the transaction was done and it was the last time he paid us a visit. Good for him as well for the next time around, he might have been greeted at the end of a shotgun.

And I cannot begin to tell you how much my ears rang when I heard old timers referring to the black folks living in the area, heard the N words more time than I care to count.

So go ahead, keep calling me a bigot if you so wish.

[Cogburn]

Neanderthals, Homo Habilis , Homo ergaster, Homo erectus , Homo pekinensis Homo heidelbergensis so and and so forth. Ancient humans came in variety and so do modern humans.

Science says all those others died save but one which evolved into the current day us.

So she thinks the variety of todays humans evolved from a variety of proto humans.

So what? I fail to see how that means she hates people based upon their skin color. Explain that.

Wikianswers as scientific proof? Oh, c'mon.

Welcome to the science of genetic anthropology.

http://migration.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/journey-of-man.jpg

http://www.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/Human_Genome/elsi/humanmigration.shtml

Oops! It looks like I'm wrong! It seems that there have been advances in GA that indicate that we did indeed come out of Africa! It's not something I read up on more than once a year, so I guess that's to be expected.

http://www.anth.ucsb.edu/projects/human/
http://i47.tinypic.com/2wluec0.jpg

The anthropology department of UCSB is right down the street from where I work. If you have any questions about genetic anthropology or the origins of man, I would be more than happy to walk over there and ask them for you.

[anarch]

Wikianswers as scientific proof? Oh, c'mon.

Welcome to the science of genetic anthropology.




Thanks but that was not what I asked you to explain.

I sought an explanation on how believing we evolved from different ancestors translated into hatred based on skin color.

You just read something and interpreted it to mean something that wasn't. You jumped to a conclusion. A wrong conclusion.

[Cogburn]

Thanks but that was not what I asked you to explain.

I sought an explanation on how believing we evolved from different ancestors translated into hatred based on skin color.

You just read something and interpreted it to mean something that wasn't. You jumped to a conclusion. A wrong conclusion.
I didn't say that it was a hatred, I said that it was bigoted.

Having a prejudice in your mind against a particular individual or ideal is not hatred.

Granted, the belief that such is true is used as justification for the polarization of any controversial position.

Science says that the differences between ethnic groups of homo sapiens is literally skin deep. So slight is the variation, it warrants zero distinction within scientific disciplines in which such accuracy is important.

My world view is born from that position: we are 99.99999999% alike, barring major genetic defect; and even in such cases we're still 99.999999% alike or some such ridiculously similar amount.

Your mileage may vary.

Working from that position, in a very real way, I have been able to relate to any individual I meet in person on a level of mutual respect and appreciation.

Given the tone of this discussion, I invite you to come shake my hand and then tell me I'm wrong.

Let me ask you: based upon the belief that those that look physically different from you are not the same kind of human being you are; do you feel alone in the universe because no one is like you, or do you find comfort in surrounding yourself with those that look as much like you as possible?

Basically, where do you draw the line between "types" of human and how does that relate to how you interact with other people?

When you boil out all the rhetoric, that's really what we're talking about here.

[anarch]

I didn't say that it was a hatred, I said that it was bigoted.

Where I come from Bigotry and Hatred are synonymous.




Given the tone of this discussion, I invite you to come shake my hand and then tell me I'm wrong.

Let me ask you: based upon the belief that those that look physically different from you are not the same kind of human being you are; do you feel alone in the universe because no one is like you, or do you find comfort in surrounding yourself with those that look as much like you as possible?

Basically, where do you draw the line between "types" of human and how does that relate to how you interact with other people?

When you boil out all the rhetoric, that's really what we're talking about here.Humans that do not look like me a literally a breed apart. Big whoop de do.
He's got brown hair, shes got red hair, oh look his eyes are narrow ...so what. DO I FEEL ALONE IN THE UNIVERSE? No not at all.

DO I FIND COMFORT IN SURROUNDING MYSELF WITH THOSE THAT LOOK AS MUCH LIKE ME AS POSSIBLE? No. Strange question.

WHERE DO I DRAW THE LINE BETWEEN "TYPES" OF HUMAN AND HOW DOES THAT RELATE TO HOW I INTERACT WITH OTHER PEOPLE?

What?.....Ummmm I relate just fine. People are different this does not equate shunning them for their differences. Jesus, do I need to go over my sexual history and personal friendships to properly convey the idea that acknowledging the differences between us is not the same thing as being prejudiced over the differences between us?

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[Cogburn]

That certainly clarifies.

Why is it then that you focus on what is different when that does little else but cause more separation and division by definition?

If people are people, doesn't that seem completely counterproductive or, at least, backwards?

[anarch]

That certainly clarifies.

Why is it then that you focus on what is different when that does little else but cause more separation and division by definition?

If people are people, doesn't that seem completely counterproductive or, at least, backwards?

I don't focus on it. I do acknowledge it. To do otherwise would be to pretend you don't see the elephant in the room or that the emperor is wearing cloths when he ain't.

She's a girl , I'm a guy. He's old, I'm not as old. We are not assembly line ken and barbie dolls. We come in different shapes, colors, and sizes.

Still 'if you prick me do I not bleed'

[Cogburn]

Then why refute (without foundation, mind you) OOA if the scientific information says otherwise?

[anarch]

Then why refute (without foundation, mind you) OOA if the scientific information says otherwise?

The foundation of my experiences and your experiences are unique to us individually. From my experience I have come to question many scientific facts and theories.

Of late I have been grooving on the expanding earth theory.If our planet has plate tectonics then it is reasonable to suspect similar planets like ours (Venus and Mars) may also have plate tectonics. If such is the case we should be able to observe the subduction zones on those other planets. Especially Mars.

http://eearthk.com/

When humanity began to explore the globe we always found other humans. Guam, Hawaii , Northern arctic, The only place we did not find humans was Antarctica.

Human evolution... Hell Evolution itself is still something being studied and understood. We know evolution exists but its mechanisms and time frames are still being evaluated.

I also support the aquatic ape theory when it comes to Human evolution.

[WhispersInTheDark]

All "white" skiined persons came from "darker" skinned persons.

But WTF is a "birth record"?

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

Check your OP that is exactly what you said thats why I quoted you.


Look at this:




2. The black man is god (Don't necessarily believe this either

Now look at this:




Now as for why I believe number 2's feasible, well just think about it. The black man has GOT to be in someway superior for us to have been considered a threat ever since the beginning of time.

NOWHERE in the above did I specifically say that I believe that the black man's superior. I said I believed it was feasible in someway. Which means I believe it's likely. Still though, just because something's likely doesn't it mean it's actually so.



So when you use the word nigga it's a right. When I use the word nigga it's stupidity.

Absolutely.


I still want to know which black race you consider the supreme race?

African Blacks or Australian Blacks?

Read the beginning.

[guinnessford]

A co worker once told me something about men for she dated a lot that she was always wary about a cute guy who was too nice always had something to hide.

Something about guys who knows they have pleasing physical attributes will play on it or just be players.

I just kept shrugging, telling her that not all cute guys were assholes.

I have met other women thinking along the same lines.

Just be yourself ;)
I do, and Im happy with what Ive done.

Very good woman I have now, Its just all the time leading up to now....

[guinnessford]

All "white" skiined persons came from "darker" skinned persons.

But WTF is a "birth record"?


Yeah. OK...sketch?

[anarch]

NOWHERE in the above did I specifically say that I believe that the black man's superior. I said I believed it was feasible in someway. Which means I believe it's likely. Still though, just because something's likely doesn't it mean it's actually so.



The black man has GOT to be in someway superior.... IMO, some of it HAS to be true.

Has got to be in some way...in which ways IEF? In which ways.

Further how is it feasible only the black humans are god? Is this to say it is feasible whites, orientals, mexicans, arabs, etc are all not god but the devil?

[hp]

make no mistake the white race has done their fair share of evil

I only read your OP so far. Rest later. Bull bullshit. I see why you are fucked up.
I guess the black man's crime sprees thought the cities is part of your god's plan and is OK.

You hang here claiming the white person is racist. It appears you at least side with this thinking a bit and that says a lot for you.

[MrPenny]

Damn, I always miss the good shit.

Go to bed, sleep peacefully, then get up and discover a friggin skirmish has been waged right here at Amkon.

IEF, your ego has wrapped you in some kind of weird force field. Others can see in, read you like the words on this page, but you appear to be struggling with seeing the world around you.....as if it's being played out different or something.

I am incapable of finding any instances where you've genuinely had anybody "on the ropes." You simply don't have the chops to put someone on an intellectual rope. People here have thrown that nasty epithet at you not in response to your blackness.....but your ego.

You read a book about a subject that appears to validate your world view, yet you seem to have zero context for understanding what it is saying. A single book does not comprise the "truth." Books of that type are intentionally small snapshots of a persons opinion....it must be treated as part of a puzzle, that I hope would point you towards other sources of information.

"Birth records".....actual, paper birth records. The black genealogy in this country virtually ends at a certain point. You've stated that your ashamed to be from the South. That is a weird thing to be ashamed of. You should be ashamed of the lack of cultural history you exhibit. Sadly, I'm getting the feeling that your ashamed to be black. And that makes me feel sad.

Despite your protests....your opening post does in fact display your assertion that the "black race is superior." And you went on to conflate slavery and racism with fear of the black race. Are some people irrationally afraid of people that look different? Yeah...sure. But the purchase and use of slaves is an economic activity IEF. Nothing more. Every ethnicity has at some point had a number of its peoples subjugated to slavery. Racism is a result of ignorance. Those that would promote the practice use fear tactics to promulgate the hideous ideology. And you, IEF, have thrown out the "fear" thing.

Maybe you should cultivate some white acquaintances IEF and experience some diversity in your life.

[boycotteverything]

imo racism is a white mans' invention. we should never assume that a black man's reactions to it are also racist.

[hp]

imo racism is a white mans' invention. we should never assume that a black man's reactions to it are also racist.
Now that's funny. Guess we need another parallel term.

[boycotteverything]

we have one: victim of racism

[boycotteverything]

Quote of the day. Brought to you by SOCKNEWS, INC-

"No Cong ever called me a nigger." Muhammad Ali

[MrPenny]

Quote of the day. Brought to you by SOCKNEWS, INC-

"No Cong ever called me a nigger." Muhammad Ali

Easy thing to say.....he never came face to face with a Viet Cong. That's like me saying, "No Tibetan ever called me a cracker."

[boycotteverything]

http://media-files.gather.com/images/d147/d597/d744/d224/d96/f3/full.jpg
Free water for the people of Birmingham. "Them niggers don't appreciate nuthin."

[boycotteverything]

Maybe Billy can 'splain it to you, bro. I'm over it.

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[MrPenny]

So what's your point? Just trying to keep the shit pot stirred up?

[boycotteverything]

yep. this shit pot should always be stirred. it's the Santayana principle.

[anarch]

So what's your point? Just trying to keep the shit pot stirred up?

dont feed the trolls

[boycotteverything]

and so the consideration of the roots of EIF's sentiments are nothing but trolling? Antard you are a reprehensible, racist ignoramus. it's in your honor that Malcolm took the name X.

[anarch]

LOL I say dont feed the trolls and what do I do? Ahhh me. Lets see if I can follow my own advice for awhile and avoid feeding the trolls.

[boycotteverything]

let's see

[egg]

My first cell mate was this scary looking black dude, I mean a "hard-nigga", named Latarius. I think he'd been shot about 5 different times. I'm not one for awkward silence, so I think after about a handful of minutes or so I just said fuck it and started rambling about something. What an unlikely pair of cellmates... a skrawny long haired whitey punk rocker and a ghetto-ass black dude from the projects. Turned out to be one of the most interesting people I think I've ever met, before or since.

Dude, you just pitched the best 'New and Edgy' sitcom idea I've ever heard. We can make a fortune.

"Indee's a skrawny long haired whitey punk rocker". Latarius is a ghetto-ass black dude from the projects. Two unlikely friends thrown together by the state correctional facility. They are:
THE NEW ODD COUPLE"

[MrPenny]

and so the consideration of the roots of EIF's sentiments are nothing but trolling?

Blow me BE......this is just agitating.

How 'bout we just derail this into a deconstruction of your pedanticism?

[boycotteverything]

i'm an unreconstructed outside agitator. remember them?

[boycotteverything]

"Remember, friends- every good stew requires a good stirring. Bon Appetit!" Julia Child

[egg]

Hey!

We're friends with the Koreans now.

:D

Only 1/2 of them.

[boycotteverything]

yeah but i think Pack's kinda sweet on this one. :lol:

http://www.south-korea-esl-blog.eflblogs.com/images/North-Korean-leader-Kim-Jong-Il.jpg

[egg]

yeah but i think Pack's kinda sweet on this one. :lol:

http://www.south-korea-esl-blog.eflblogs.com/images/North-Korean-leader-Kim-Jong-Il.jpg

He is kinda adorable. So cute!!!


Ugh... I just caught up on the 22 pages I missed on this thread. Please, give me that time back.

[boycotteverything]

nope. you've wasted a half hour of your life. but here's a memento. the crime? riding a bus while black. only yesterday.

http://almostdorothy.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/rosa-parks-dickson1dec05.jpg

[egg]

You funny.

IEF... don't know you very well. I grew up in NYC. Not really afraid of black people unless they give me a reason to be. I bet there are plenty of white people afraid of black people and vice versa --> Not enough real life exposure. Whether one race or another is superior to the other, I really don't care. It's a pragmatic decision not to care, it's not going to make my life any better or worse either way.
Anyway, here's Bill Burr (the whitest man in comedy) on being a white guy with black friends.

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