Natural Cave System Discovered Under Giza Plateau

[Cogburn]

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Interesting that he connects the bird cult to Sokar, in that Hermes was Thoth in the Egyptian pantheon and whose sacred bird is the ibis. Brian Copenhaver documents several Thoth cults operating in Hellenistic Egypt whose primary practice of worship was the mummification of ibis by the thousand.

I wonder if this isn't truly the Tomb of Hermes Trismegistus and the Hall of Records of which Edgar Cayce spoke.

The evidence certainly is compelling.

[mojo]

very cool.

i got the feeling that he wanted to say something other than the very diplomatic answer he gave regarding zahi hawass.

i'm going to see if i can get my hands on his book, sounds like it would be an interesting read, id also like to get my hands on salts memoirs.

[GeneralStriker]

Zahi is a jealous man. The secrets of the Pharaohs are his to reveal in that fullness of time of his own choosing. And while it seems a logical choice to have built the Great Pyramids atop natural caverns that had been used for unimaginable prior millennia to conduct the sacred rites of passage, to initiate the redeemers of humanity- it remains for Zahi, the reincarnation of Ra, to make that revelation. Pity all who would steal his thunder.

[anarch]

An underground aqueduct system!

One more notch in the belt of the pump theory! :D

[Cogburn]

Hawass's response to Collins. (http://www.drhawass.com/node/303)

Collins retorts. (http://blogs.discovery.com/files/hawass-response.doc)

What a food fight.

Link to Salt's memoirs on Amazon. (http://www.amazon.com/Sphinx-Revealed-Pioneering-Excavations-Publication/dp/086159164X/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_1)

Looks like even Egypt.com is skeptical of Hawass.

Debate on the discovery of a cave complex under the Giza plateau and Pyramids has escalated with the simultaneous publication of a new book and the first public showing of hundreds of photos and supporting evidence in front of a capacity audience at a major conference in Virginia Beach.
History writer Andrew Collins, who discovered the caves in 2008, presented his findings for the first time and showed that Egypt’s official denial of the caves’ existence is based on the misconception that the tomb giving access to the cave system had already been fully explored.

Collins’s new book "Beneath the Pyramids", published this week, records how he and Egyptological researcher Nigel Skinner Simpson used the 200-year-old memoirs of British diplomat and explorer Henry Salt to track down the entrance to the cave underworld.

Egyptologists never found the caves themselves because they were unaware of the significance of Salt’s memoirs, which had languished in the British Museum for over 150 years before their publication in 2007.

According to Collins the cave system is many hundreds of yards long and might well have been detected from space using state of the art satellite radar imagery.

Despite overwhelming hard evidence to support his claims, Collins’ cave discovery was disputed in a recent internet blog by Dr Zahi Hawass, Secretary General of Egypt’s Supreme Council of Antiquities.

Dr Hawass suggested that Collins confused a known tomb with a cave system, stating: “Anyone who enters this tomb may feel they are in a maze corridor because of the multiple tunnels, and it seems more than its 35 meters long.”

Collins shows that while the tomb itself is only 100 feet or so long (i.e. 35 meters as Hawass related) what Hawass didn’t realize is that a natural cave system extends for many hundreds of yards into the bedrock, and is entered through an obscure opening located in the far reaches of the tomb.

Details about the caves’ exploration and the necessity for specialized safety and breathing equipment are contained in Collins’ new book "Beneath the Pyramids" (4th Dimension Press, 2009).

At Collins’ presentation in Virginia Beach it was revealed for the first time that the cave system may lead to the fabled tomb of Hermes, which legend asserts lies beneath the plateau’s Second Pyramid. Hermes – a mythical founder of Egyptian civilization – is believed to lay in a cave vault holding the so-called Emerald Tablet, on which are written the secrets of creation.

Seriously exciting.

[GeneralStriker]

So? Isn't that what I just said with many, many fewer words? (and no cut and paste...) What? You want a reward for noise and verbosity?

[lala]

I'm on dail up till thursday, bummer I'll have to wait. :D

[KIWI]

So? Isn't that what I just said with many, many fewer words? (and no cut and paste...) What? You want a reward for noise and verbosity?


for the record... "ahem"

"Hawass is a cunt" (by kiwi, July 16 1983.)

Fixt :)

[mojo]

which had languished in the British Museum for over 150 years before their publication in 2007.



this is something that has bothered me about "archaeology" as a whole for many years. just how much undiscovered "stuff" lies buried in museum basements all around the world.
either accidently or deliberately.

get the feeling that hawass is spitting chips, hahaha.

[Raptor Jesus]

Bumped for great subterranean research