Need some help interepreting this...

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

In a book I'm reading about cognitive psychology, I came across this quote:

"All crises begin with a blurring of a paradigm and the consequent loosening of the rules for normal research...A crisis may end with the emergence of a new candidate for paradigm and with the ensuing battle over its acceptance."

Now from my understanding, I believe the point is that a distressful event can occur and when it does, the prescribed methods for dealing with it will be invalidated and devalued. Or at the very least become questionable.

Then, another distressful event can dissolve via the occurance of an unforseen causation within it, and might be rendered irrelevant.

Does that sound accurate? If not, help a nigga out. :D

[Lexion]

No events, in my mind are irrelevant.

Can they cause a new understanding ?

Yep.

Then again, I'm just an old mechanic.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

No events, in my mind are irrelevant.


But if unforseen causes of particular events are within them, wouldn't it make sense to render them irrelevant because of the unforseen cause?

[Lexion]

Ok, we can get deep.

You up for that ?

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

Ok, we can get deep.

You up for that ?

Of course.

[skunk]

"All crises begin with a blurring of a paradigm and the consequent loosening of the rules for normal research...A crisis may end with the emergence of a new candidate for paradigm and with the ensuing battle over its acceptance."

Now from my understanding, I believe the point is that a distressful event can occur and when it does, the prescribed methods for dealing with it will be invalidated and devalued. Or at the very least become questionable

This is what my girlfriend said:

yep that sounds right-- (They're talking about academic paradigm change or scientific paradigm changes?) "disorienting dilemma" (crisis) is another way to describe such paradigm shifts within an individual... a person experiences something that is in stark contrast to their current understanding of the world and they have no way to interpret or deal with the the new "disorienting" experience, or crisis. They must then challenge the old paradigm and look for, test out, a new paradigm (framework) in which they'll be able to integrate this new experience into their psyche.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

This is what my girlfriend said:

yep that sounds right-- (They're talking about academic paradigm change or scientific paradigm changes?) "disorienting dilemma" (crisis) is another way to describe such paradigm shifts within an individual... a person experiences something that is in stark contrast to their current understanding of the world and they have no way to interpret or deal with the the new "disorienting" experience, or crisis. They must then challenge the old paradigm and look for, test out, a new paradigm (framework) in which they'll be able to integrate this new experience into their psyche.

Word. Now what about the second statement?

[Royal]

Here ya go young blood:

"All crises begin wiff uh blurring o' uh paradigm an' da consequent loosening o' da rules fo' normal research...A crisis may end wiff da emergence o' uh new candidate fo' paradigm an' wiff da ensuing battle over its acceptance. peep this shit"

Hope that helps.

http://joel.net/EBONICS/translator.asp

[skunk]

Word. Now what about the second statement?

What second statement?

[hp]

Skunk's girls version sounds right to me.

It covers the whole quote posted. It's going in and coming out of the event interpretation.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

Here ya go young blood:

"All crises begin wiff uh blurring o' uh paradigm an' da consequent loosening o' da rules fo' normal research...A crisis may end wiff da emergence o' uh new candidate fo' paradigm an' wiff da ensuing battle over its acceptance. peep this shit"

http://joel.net/EBONICS/translator.asp

You never stop fetterhoffing do ya royal?

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa86/etothedouble/wegif.gif

[Royal]

You make it too easy. But really doh,

I'm impressed with what your reading. Next, you got to buy land.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

What second statement?

Nevermind.

[Lexion]

Ok, I'll bow out.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

You make it too easy.

I make it too easy for you to fail? Hmm..interesting. :D

[Lexion]

De-rail your own thread ?

Dude.

Focus.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

De-rail your own thread ?

Dude.

Focus.

The question's already been answered though. But we can keep discussing it if ya like. :D

[Royal]

I make it too easy for you to fail? Hmm..interesting. :D

But isn't this thread about you failing to have confidence in your translation?

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

But isn't this thread about you failing to have confidence in your translation?

It was until you came in and fetterhoffed just by posting in it. ;)

[Royal]

It was until you came in and fetterhoffed just by posting in it. ;)

:clown:

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

:clown:

Exactly. :D

[Lexion]

Ok, if it's been explained,
please explain it to me.

[anarch]

Ok then

[Royal]

Ok, if it's been explained,
please explain it to me.

oh this is good... :shock:

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

Ok, if it's been explained,
please explain it to me.


This is what my girlfriend said:

yep that sounds right-- (They're talking about academic paradigm change or scientific paradigm changes?) "disorienting dilemma" (crisis) is another way to describe such paradigm shifts within an individual... a person experiences something that is in stark contrast to their current understanding of the world and they have no way to interpret or deal with the the new "disorienting" experience, or crisis. They must then challenge the old paradigm and look for, test out, a new paradigm (framework) in which they'll be able to integrate this new experience into their psyche.

[Lexion]

Like coming back to civvie life,
after combat ?

If so, that's what I thought.

[Royal]

Not his words!

[Lexion]

Not his words!

Don't care whose words they were.

[hp]

@lex, that is an example that fits.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

Skunk does your g/f read up on psychology too?

[Lexion]

@lex, that is an example that fits.

Thought I posted this here.

Can't find it, so I took it.

It's mine. Fuck Bill.

90 days.

I was told. Make 90 days.
If so, better chance of going Home.

Home. Jesus. What a thought.

Home.

I look at the FNG. Tell him, 90 days.

Home. So far away. Why do I think
about home ?

Latest FNG took a free ride Home.
So easy.
Why do I cry at night ?

They look at me, like I know the
answers.

I cry less.

Three new FNG's. Two are OK.
One, I know is going Home.

(19 months have passed)

Make 90 days, they tell me.

Yeah, right. A car back-fires.
I jump.

90 days.

They say it so casual.
But, so did I.

90 days. Jesus.

The second 90 days are worse.

If this makes sense, Kudo's.

Regards,
Lex

[hp]

I can feel the words but in no way feel them the way you do. Part of your soul now.

[Kogburn]

For a practical application of this criteria go here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR-sn2vzmFQ

[hp]

A person could throw UFO sightings into this.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

A person could throw UFO sightings into this.

Mmmm...I guess.

[Cogburn]

Skunk got you on the first statement.

Your second statement makes no sense. Psychology isn't a zero-sum game where you can balance one distressful event with a polar opposite.

Once a paradigm is broken and a new paradigm instituted, there's nothing to do but rinse and repeat, acquiring the cumulative experience attendant to such changes.

What's the title and author of the book you're reading?

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

Your second statement makes no sense. Psychology isn't a zero-sum game where you can balance one distressful event with a polar opposite.

I mean, wouldn't a distressful situation that was caused by some unforeseen factor be easy to label irrelevant because it would seem that the factor would in a sense be trivial? See what I'm saying?



What's the title and author of the book you're reading?

Cognitive therapy and the emotional disorders by Aaron T. Beck.

[hp]

Mmmm...I guess.

UFO - Pointing out that it can be an example of a paradigm breaking down.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

UFO - Pointing out that it can be an example of a paradigm breaking down.

I see.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

Skunk got you on the first statement.


What? Are you saying that he understood me or one upped me? If it's the latter then no because he said his g/f said my perception was pretty much correct.

[skunk]

Skunk does your g/f read up on psychology too?

She's doing her masters thesis on sustainability, and has read quite a bit on psychology.

I've only taken intro...

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

She's doing her masters thesis on sustainability, and has read quite a bit on psychology.

I've only taken intro...

Ah, ok.

[Eyeforalie]

So what does the second paragraph say?

[Eyeforalie]

For realz though, Im glad your reading. I hope you wise up and learn how to take a joke next. I'll be happy to help if Im around when you get to the second page. :P

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

For realz though, Im glad your reading.

:lol: you sound like a mom that's impressed with her son or some shit. Again, I've been reading. I guess in order for me to convince you fuckfaces I had to post about it. Meh...

[Cogburn]

I mean, wouldn't a distressful situation that was caused by some unforeseen factor be easy to label irrelevant because it would seem that the factor would in a sense be trivial? See what I'm saying?
I'm currently working towards a degree in Psychology. :)

I see what you're saying, but you're using these terms out of context. Stick to the plain English until you master the words of art.

What you're describing is cognitive dissonance, or the means by which an individual mediates stress arising from a challenge to ego-centric value systems.

That's an entire field of psychology in and of itself.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

I'm currently working towards a degree in Psychology. :)


Nice. I'll be doing the same this summer. :D