How did this guy predict the Titanic sinking?

[Raptor Jesus]

http://img1.fantasticfiction.co.uk/images/0/2447.jpg


Released 1898:


http://filiquarian.com/books/Futility_or_The_Wreck_of_the_Titan_by_Morgan_Rober tson/cover.jpg


Titanic Sinks 1912, many coincidences in the story:


http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/08_03/titanic_468x288.jpg

Not only that, but he may have predicted atomic bombs in WWII.


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From the Fulford/Wilcock interview:

They both say that the sinking of the Titanic was a successful 'evil faction' plot to murder all of the members of the elite who didn't go along with their plan.

Unprovable, but there is a book that came out 14 years before, about the sinking of the Titan, eerily similar.

Did this book predict the Titanic disaster? (http://www.unexplainable.net/artman/publish/article_8747.shtml)

This is not the first time that life has mirrored art, and big events have been preempted. Are we supposed to write them all off as coincidence?


Did the book predict the Titanic disaster?
The fictional ship Titan is eerily similar to the yet-to-be conceived Titanic in size, speed, equipment, numbers of passengers (both rich and poor), and those lost.
Both ships were British and sailed in April with a top speed of 24 knots. They had the same passenger and crew capacity of 3,000 but sailed with a little over 2,000. Also they were between 800 and 900 feet long and driven with triple propellers. Each also sank 95 miles south of of Greenland. Here's the most astonishing fact: both ships sank after being pierced by an iceberg on their starboard side.

Robertson's book tells the story of a large triple-screw luxury ocean liner named the Titan. The Titan was the largest ship afloat with the best in modern technology, including 19 watertight bulkheads, causing it to be widely regarded as unsinkable. The Titan was also the largest ocean liner built, at a length of 800 feet, a weight of 45,000 gross tons, and a capacity of 3000 people. It had just set off on a voyage across the North Atlantic, carrying many wealthy and affluent passengers.

Moving at her full speed of 24 knots through cold waters on an icy April night, the Titan collided with an iceberg on the fore-starboard side close to midnight, tearing gashes in the ship below the waterline. The Titan lacked enough lifeboats for all of those aboard, and eventually sank resulting in a tremendous loss of life, despite the watertight compartments. There were few survivors.

The fictional Titan was an 800 foot-long triple-screw steamer, while the Titanic was 882.5 feet long, also a triple screw steamer. Both had a capacity of 3000 people. The Titan weighed about 45,000 gross tons, and the Titanic weighed in at 46,328. The Titan had 19 watertight compartments, and the Titanic had 15. Because of these compartments, both ships were regarded as unsinkable. The Titan and the Titanic carried wealthy and well known passengers. Both the Titan and the Titanic struck an iceberg on a cold April night while crossing the North Atlantic, causing damage to the forward starboard section. The Titan hit the iceberg "close to midnight", while the Titanic collided with its iceberg at 11:40pm. Both ships lacked enough lifeboats to save all aboard, causing great loss of life.

With all of these obvious similarities, you might think that Robertson 'borrowed' the story of the Titanic for his book, but in that theory there is just one problem:
"Futility" Robertson's fictional account of the Titan was written in 1898 - fourteen years before the Titanic sank in 1912!!!

The coincidences do not end there:
The year 1998 marked both the 100th anniversary of Morgan Robertson’s novel and James Cameron’s film of the Titanic.

Dorothy Gibson, the 28-year-old silent screen actress, was the resident movie star for the Titanic. She would later star in "Saved from the Titanic", a movie made one month after the disaster. Her costume was the dress she wore on the night of the sinking.
On April 15, 1913, one year after the sinking of the Titanic, the Titanic Memorial Lighthouse and Time Ball, mounted atop the Seamen’s Church Institute in New York, were dedicated to honor the passengers, officers, and crew who perished in the sinking. The plaque on the Titanic Memorial Lighthouse reads:

This lighthouse is a memorial to the passengers, officers and crew who died as heroes when the steamship Titanic sank after collision with an iceberg.
LATITUDE 41°46' NORTH
LONGITUDE 50°14' WEST
APRIL 15, 1912

The lighthouse memorial stood above the East River on top of the old Seaman's' Church Institute at the corner of South Street and Coenties Slip From 1913 to 1967. In July 1968 the Seaman's' Church Institute moved to its present quarters at 15 State Street. That year the Titanic Memorial Lighthouse was donated by the Kaiser-Nelson Steel & Salvage Corporation to the South Street Seaport Museum where it can be viewed today by visiting the South Street Seaport or by using Google Earth (Clue: find the corner of Fulton St. & Pearl)

[skunk]

Not trying to burst your bubble..

Morgan Robertson's The Wreck of the Titan or Futility (http://www.amazon.com/Wreck-Titan-Futility-Morgan-Robertson/dp/0899668216)

Original publication date: 1912

[Raptor Jesus]

Bubble intact:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futility,_or_the_Wreck_of_the_Titan

[boycotteverything]

This album cover came out 6 months before 9-11.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xcUskQ-VRTI/SNCT9wVylwI/AAAAAAAAA2k/W7BLCOa6yP0/s400/600px-TheCoupCoverLarge%2BParty%2BMusic.jpg

[Raptor Jesus]

Yeah that's interesting.

Shit, look at this, from the Amazon review:


Even stranger is another story included in this ebook: Beyond the Spectrum
This story describes a futuristic war fought with aircraft that carried what he called "sun bombs". These bombs were so powerful that with one brilliant flash of blinding light, one single bomb could destroy an entire city (much like a nuclear bomb ).

N. B.: When this story was written, airplanes were still tiny, dangerous machines that could barely carry one man and was decades before the Germans started their "heavy water" experiments, trying to construct a nuclear device.
In addition, this future war begins in the month of December when the Japanese stage a sneak attack on Hawaii. (WW II began also, when the Japanese launched a sneak attack in December on an American base -Pearl Harbor, in Hawaii.)
It appears that the author was visionary of sorts.

[boycotteverything]

Read the Prophecies of Mother Shipton for a real good mind-blow.

[skunk]

Mother Shipton's prophecies are well known hoaxes.

[Raptor Jesus]

OK, never heard of it, got any links BE? Skunk, 1912 must be the second edition cos 1898 is the original date, but your link turned up a great find...

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So can anyone answer this one? The evidence is stark. 14 years earlier...

[hp]

The album cover. May be bennie and his boys saw or heard of it and it influenced them. Blame the cover for the whole mess.

[boycotteverything]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Shipton

[skunk]

Mother Shipton hoax (http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/Hoaxipedia/Prophecies_of_Mother_Shipton/)

Mother Shipton hoax (http://www.randi.org/encyclopedia/Shipton,%20Mother.html)

Aviation fulfills one of the predictions of the mother shipton hoax (from a newspaper in 1919) (http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1955&dat=19190727&id=Yw8rAAAAIBAJ&sjid=0psFAAAAIBAJ&pg=2386,3637205)

[boycotteverything]

The album cover. May be bennie and his boys saw or heard of it and it influenced them. Blame the cover for the whole mess.
What a mind fuck, eh? Right down the proper floors!

[hp]

In another parallel universe, rouge passengers tried to take over the planes due to some fat guys being bumped and the foreign guys stop these passengers and save the planes from crashing. The unskilled, new pilots would have hit the towers during their antics.

Given enough thoughts, some are bound to come true.

[skunk]

Charles Hindley admitted to the Mother Shipton hoax in 1873...

In 1862, in Victorian Britain, bookseller Charles Hindley published a prophecy and credited it to a "Mother Shipton," and claimed that it came from a 1684 publication by Richard Head, The Life and Death of Mother Shipton.

...

In the 1862 version by Charles Hindley, Mother Shipton predicts the end of the world in 1881. In 1881 there was some panic in Britain as the prophecy had become accepted as true even though in 1873, Charles Hindley confessed that he had made up this prophecy.

source (http://womenshistory.about.com/od/goddesseurope/a/mother_shipton.htm)

[hp]

The exact target and timing for taking the planes could have been the last of the logistics.

[boycotteverything]

jesus- even if it were written in 1873 it's still an amazingly accurate predictor of future events.

[Raptor Jesus]

Given enough thoughts, some are bound to come true.


Going back to the Titanic, that's not enough to explain the massive list of "coincidences."

[boycotteverything]

anyone who wrote this in 1873 or 1573 is seeing the future. Cars? Planes? The internet?


A carriage without horse will go
Disaster fill the world with woe.
In London, Primrose Hill shall be
In centre hold a Bishop's See


Around the world men's thoughts will fly
Quick as the twinkling of an eye.
And water shall great wonders do
How strange. And yet it shall come true.


Through towering hills proud men shall ride
No horse or ass move by his side.
Beneath the water, men shall walk
Shall ride, shall sleep, shall even talk.
And in the air men shall be seen
In white and black and even green

[hp]

Those words leave much to individual interpretation.

[Raptor Jesus]

Quite interesting... a bit vague, like hp says...

[hp]

there would be no seers of these visions without man's ability to create technology to fulfill those visions.

[boycotteverything]

oh yeah- but interesting especially in view of other cases of seeming clairvoyance.- like that album cover. hahahaha

[Raptor Jesus]

Can anyone prove or disprove the OP?

[hp]

People like magic. let's just say it is all due to ETs working behind the scenes since their creation of humans.

[Raptor Jesus]

GLP thread (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message707930/pg1)

IT IS NOT INCONCEIVABLE THAT WE HAVE HEARD SO MUCH ABOUT THE FAMOUS VOYAGE OF THE TITANIC BECAUSE IT WAS ONE OF THE MOST PERFECT CRIMES EVER COMMITTED!

'The unsinkable ship, the floating palace was created to be a tomb for the wealthy, who opposed the Federal Reserve System. On April 14th (the same date in history as the assassination of Abraham Lincoln) of 1912, the Titanic struck an iceberg and all opposition to the Federal Reserve was eliminated. In December of 1913, the Federal Reserve System came into being in the United States. Eight months later, the Jesuits had sufficient funding through the Federal Reserve Bank to begin World War I.' Notice the F.R.S. was established soon after the disaster of the Titanic.

by Doug Yurchey

[link to www.world-mysteries.com (http://www.world-mysteries.com/doug_titanic1.htm)]

The above title does not read: What sunk the Titanic? It says: Who?

What was the real story behind the sinking of the Titanic? The book 'The Secret Terrorists' printed by Truth Triumphant Ministries and reprinted by Tree of Life Resources places blame squarely on the Roman Catholic Order known as the Jesuits. 'The greatest tragedies in the last 200 years can be traced to the Jesuits.'

Founded in 1540, the Society of Jesus grew rapidly within the Catholic Church. They were confessors to the ruling families of Europe. They defend the Pope and Catholicism around the world in nearly every country. In 1773, Clement XIV suppressed the Jesuits. In 1814, Pope Pius VII responded to pressure and restored the Society. There are Jesuit colleges and ministries today. They are a very influential organization. Jesuits are dedicated to furthering Catholicism and the power of the Pope. Yet...there is a secret, negative side to this organization called 'the Society of Jesus.' For hundreds of years they carried out religious killings. They were the men in dark cloaks who carried daggers. (Were they the religious CIA for their time?)

In 1910, seven men met on Jekyll Island just off the coast of Georgia to plan the Federal Reserve Bank. Nelson Aldrich and Frank Valderclip represented the Rockefeller financial empire. Henry Davidson, Charles Norton and Benjamin Strong represented J.P. Morgan. Paul Warberg represented the Rothschilds Banking dynasty of Europe. The Rothschilds were the banking agents for the Jesuits and hold 'the key to the wealth of the Roman Catholic Church.'

The Morgan gang, the Rothschilds gang and the Rockefeller gang were fierce competitors yet entered joint ventures. They established the national banking cartel called the Federal Reserve System....according to G. Edward Griffin in 'The Creature From Jekyll Island (American Opinion Publishing P. 209). A review of this book stated: 'It tells a story of how bankers have lured politicians with easy money and end up in control of most of the world.'

[This writer travelled to Jekyll Island in 1970 with his college tennis team. I had such a beautiful moment there one night: I was alone and drawn to a lighthouse. There stood deer in the darkness drinking from a pond. In the moonlight, it was a sight I'd never forget. Little did I realize that this wonderful, winter-resort for the rich had an evil history. Jekyll Island was properly named].

The Rothschilds, Morgans and Rockefellers are controlled by the Jesuit Order. The most powerful of families 'do whatever is necessary to destroy constitutional liberty in America and bring the Pope to world domination.' Construction of the Titanic began in 1909; at a shipyard in Belfast, Ireland. Belfast was Protestant and hated by the Jesuits. Morgan took control of the White Star Lines. The Jesuits ordered J.P. Morgan to build the Titanic. From the very beginning of the luxury liner, the Titanic was destined for doom.

There were a number of powerful men who were NOT in favor of the Federal Reserve System. Benjamin Guggenheim, Isa Strauss and John Jacob Astor opposed the formation of a F.R.S. These men were arguably the richest men in the world and stood in the way of the Jesuits' plan. 'These three men were coaxed and encouraged to board the floating palace.' Not only were these enemies of the Jesuits against a Federal Reserve Bank, but they would have used their wealth and influence to oppose World War I.

This was the 'maiden' voyage of the greatest ship ever built. The 'unsinkable' campaign assured passengers of comfortable safety. Many Irish, French and Italian Catholics were on board. Protestants from Belfast were also encouraged to immigrate to the United States on the Titanic. These were 'expendable' people; for the most part. But, the real reason for the ship's destruction was a game between the super rich whereby Guggenheim-Strauss-Astor could be eliminated. 'They had to be destroyed by a means so preposterous that no one would suspect they were murdered, and no one would suspect the Jesuits.'

The Captain of the Titanic was Edward Smith. He was a Jesuit and worked for J.P. Morgan. Anyone could be a Jesuit and their identity not be known. >From National Geographic 'The Secrets of the Titanic,' (1986):

When the ship departed southern England, on board was Francis Browne. He was the most powerful Jesuit in all of Ireland and the 'Jesuit Master of Edward Smith.' 'Here is Jesuit treachery at its finest. The provincial Father Francis Browne boards the Titanic, photographs the victims, most assuredly briefs the Captain concerning his oath as a Jesuit, and the following morning bids him farewell...' Eric J. Phelps, Vatican Assassins Halcon Unified Services. P. 247.

Captain Smith believed this high-ranking 'Jesuit General' was God. Browne instructed him on what to do in the North Atlantic waters. 'Edward Smith was given orders to sink the Titanic and that's exactly what he did.' According to Jesuit secret philosophy: The innocent can be massacred for the greater good; the ends justifies the means.

Captain Smith had been traveling the North Atlantic for 26 years. He was the 'world's most experienced master' in these cold waters. The Captain knew all along that his ship was built for the enemies of the Jesuits. Its purpose was always to be a 'deathship' and sink on its first voyage. Captain Smith also knew exactly where the icebergs were. Under secret orders, he propelled the Titanic full speed at 22 knots on a moonless night and through a huge ice field 80 square miles in area! He had been 'given orders from his God in the Vatican, and nothing would turn him from his course.'

Captain Smith's actions in his last hours were not those of a strong leader. He seemed as if he was wrestling with his conscience. Should he be the brave sea captain or obey his master and sink the ship?

There were purposely not enough lifeboats. Many of the lifeboats only had a few passengers of women and children during the emergency. White distress flares were jettisoned. Passing ships thought those aboard the Titanic were having a party. The distress flares should have been red. These examples were not because of an arrogant crew who believed the Titanic was unsinkable. These shortcomings were planned.

Those richest of men, who opposed the Federal Reserve System, were killed along with the middle and lower classes. John Jacob Astor's wife was rescued. Molly Brown was also saved. The sinking of the Titanic was possibly the greatest disaster of the 20th Century outside of the World Wars. According to 'The Secret Terrorists,' the cause of this tragedy was the Jesuit Order of the Roman Catholic Church.

'The unsinkable ship, the floating palace was created to be a tomb for the wealthy, who opposed the Federal Reserve System. On April 14th (the same date in history as the assassination of Abraham Lincoln) of 1912, the Titanic struck an iceberg and all opposition to the Federal Reserve was eliminated. In December of 1913, the Federal Reserve System came into being in the United States. Eight months later, the Jesuits had sufficient funding through the Federal Reserve Bank to begin World War I.' Notice the F.R.S. was established soon after the disaster of the Titanic.

The rich have always created unnecessary wars where the poor have to fight and die. The pages of 'The Secret Terrorists' do not specifically name the Templars, Freemasons or Illuminati. But these Secret Societies are related and do control: The banks; the money system; the oil companies; corporations; governments; the politicians; the military; the police; the law and judicial system; the churches; the schools; the media, etc., etc...

The rich and powerful have always ruled the world. The elite make the news; they create the great, international events. William Randolph Hearst invented the news and printed his propaganda in his paper.

It was the rich that purposely crashed the Stock Market in 1929 and caused the suffering of the Great Depression. The super rich had a highly-profitable, financial day during the Crash. It was the lesser-rich, want-to-be investors who lost everything.

IT IS NOT INCONCEIVABLE THAT WE HAVE HEARD SO MUCH ABOUT THE FAMOUS VOYAGE OF THE TITANIC BECAUSE IT WAS ONE OF THE MOST PERFECT CRIMES EVER COMMITTED!

[boycotteverything]

Psi isn't magic, though. It's scientifically established.

[hp]

If a large city is ever nuked, will all those who talked about it be seen as 'seeing a vision of the future'?

[skunk]

Can anyone prove or disprove the OP?

Other than the book itself being published in 1912, no.

[Raptor Jesus]

Skunk I posted earlier that was a second edition, originally published in 1898...

From Wikipedia:


Morgan Robertson (September 30, 1861–March 24, 1915) was a well-known American (http://amkon.net/wiki/United_States) author (http://amkon.net/wiki/Author) of short stories (http://amkon.net/wiki/Short_story) and novels (http://amkon.net/wiki/Novel), and the possible inventor (http://amkon.net/wiki/Inventor) of the periscope (http://amkon.net/wiki/Periscope).
Nowadays he is best known for the short novel Futility (http://amkon.net/wiki/Futility,_or_the_Wreck_of_the_Titan), first published in 1898. This story features an enormous British (http://amkon.net/wiki/United_Kingdom) passenger liner (http://amkon.net/wiki/Passenger_liner) called the Titan, which, deemed to be unsinkable, carries insufficient lifeboats. On a voyage in the month of April, the Titan hits an iceberg (http://amkon.net/wiki/Iceberg) and sinks in the North Atlantic (http://amkon.net/wiki/North_Atlantic) with the loss of almost everyone on board.

[skunk]

The novella was written in 1898, according to wiki.

[Raptor Jesus]

Multiple sources say 1898

[Raptor Jesus]

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


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Futility, or the Wreck of the Titan was an 1898 novella (http://amkon.net/wiki/Novella) written by Morgan Robertson (http://amkon.net/wiki/Morgan_Robertson). The story features the ocean liner (http://amkon.net/wiki/Ocean_liner) Titan, which sinks in the North Atlantic after striking an iceberg (http://amkon.net/wiki/Iceberg). The Titan and its sinking have been noted to be very similar to the real-life passenger ship RMS Titanic (http://amkon.net/wiki/RMS_Titanic), which sank fourteen years later.
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1 Synopsis (http://amkon.net/#Synopsis)
2 Similarities to the Titanic (http://amkon.net/#Similarities_to_the_Titanic)
3 Differences between Titanic and Titan (http://amkon.net/#Differences_between_Titanic_and_Titan)
4 Popular culture (http://amkon.net/#Popular_culture)
5 References (http://amkon.net/#References)
6 External links (http://amkon.net/#External_links)
[edit (http://amkon.net/w/index.php?title=Futility,_or_the_Wreck_of_the_Tita n&action=edit&section=1)] Synopsis

The first half of Futility introduces the hero, John Rowland. Rowland is a disgraced former Royal Navy lieutenant, who is now a drunkard and has fallen to the lowest levels of society. Dismissed from the Navy, he is working as a deckhand on the Titan. The ship hits the iceberg and sinks somewhat before the halfway point of the novel. The second half follows Rowland, as he saves the young daughter of a former lover by jumping onto the iceberg with her. After a number of adventures, in which he fights a polar bear and finds a lifeboat washed up on the iceberg, he is eventually rescued by a passing ship and, over several years, works his way up to a lucrative Government job restoring his former income and position in society. In the closing lines of the story he receives a message from his former lover, pleading for him to visit her and her daughter.
[edit (http://amkon.net/w/index.php?title=Futility,_or_the_Wreck_of_the_Tita n&action=edit&section=2)] Similarities to the Titanic

Although the novel was written before the Olympic-class Titanic had even been designed, there are some remarkable similarities between the fictional and real-life counterparts. Like the Titanic, the fictional ship sank in April in the North Atlantic, and there were not enough lifeboats for the passengers. There are also similarities between the size (800 ft long for Titan versus 882½ ft long for the Titanic), speed (25 knots for Titan, 23 knots for Titanic) and life-saving equipment.

Similarities between Titanic and Titan:

Unsinkable

The Titanic was the world's largest luxury liner (882 feet, displacing 53,000 long tons (http://amkon.net/wiki/Long_tons)), and was once described as being (nearly) "unsinkable".
The Titan was the largest craft afloat and the greatest of the works of men (800 feet, displacing 75,000 tons), and was considered "unsinkable".

Lifeboats

The Titanic carried only 20 lifeboats (http://amkon.net/wiki/Lifeboat_(shipboard)), less than half the number required for her passenger capacity of 3000.
The Titan carried "as few as the law allowed", 24 lifeboats, less than half needed for her 3000 capacity.

Struck an iceberg

Moving too fast at 23 knots (http://amkon.net/wiki/Knot_(speed)), the Titanic struck an iceberg on the night of April 14, 1912 in the North Atlantic (http://amkon.net/wiki/North_Atlantic) 400 miles away from Terranova.
Also on an April night in North Atlantic 400 miles from Newfoundland (Terranova) , the Titan hit an iceberg while traveling at 25 knots.

The Unsinkable Sank

The unsinkable Titanic sank, and more than half of her 1517 passengers died.
The indestructible Titan also sank, more than half of her 2500 passengers drowning, their "voices raised in agonized screams"

[edit (http://amkon.net/w/index.php?title=Futility,_or_the_Wreck_of_the_Tita n&action=edit&section=3)] Differences between Titanic and Titan


The Titan does not strike the iceberg a glancing blow on a clear night, as is the case with the Titanic, but drives headlong onto an ice shelf possibly formed by the recent overturning of a berg, rising up and falling on her side.
The Titanic hit the iceberg in perfect sailing conditions, while the Titan hit the iceberg in bad, misty and foggy conditions.
705 people aboard the Titanic were saved, while only 13 of those aboard the Titan survived.
The Titanic sank on her maiden voyage, while the Titan had made several voyages.
Titanic sank while sailing from England to the USA, Titan was traveling in the opposite direction.
The Titan sinks a ship before hitting the ice. The Titanic came close to an accident with the New York (http://amkon.net/wiki/SS_City_of_New_York) but did not actually hit it.
The Titan had sails to improve her speed;Titanic did not.
The Titanic was the second of three nearly identical sister ships; the Titan had no sister ships.
[edit (http://amkon.net/w/index.php?title=Futility,_or_the_Wreck_of_the_Tita n&action=edit&section=4)] Popular culture

Walter Lord (http://amkon.net/wiki/Walter_Lord)'s 1955 nonfiction account of the Titanic disaster, A Night to Remember (http://amkon.net/wiki/A_Night_to_Remember_(book)), opens with a brief description of Robertson's novella and the similarities between the actual and fictional ships.
A copy of Futility can be seen in the apartment at the beginning of the PC game Titanic: Adventure Out of Time (http://amkon.net/wiki/Titanic:_Adventure_Out_of_Time). The obituary of a Titanic passenger is used as a bookmark.
Similarities between the Titan and the Titanic were mentioned at the end of the episode 'Night of April 14' in the TV series One Step Beyond (http://amkon.net/wiki/Alcoa_Presents:_One_Step_Beyond).
A dramatisation of what led the author to write it and detailing the similarities between the events in the book and the Titanic disaster were shown in an episode of Beyond Belief: Fact or Fiction (http://amkon.net/wiki/Beyond_Belief:_Fact_or_Fiction).

[hp]

Could be it influenced the builders of the titanic.

[Raptor Jesus]

What and they were so in love with the book that they decided to recreate the circumstances of the crash as well?




Struck an iceberg

Moving too fast at 23 knots (http://amkon.net/wiki/Knot_(speed)), the Titanic struck an iceberg on the night of April 14, 1912 in the North Atlantic (http://amkon.net/wiki/North_Atlantic) 400 miles away from Terranova.
Also on an April night in North Atlantic 400 miles from Newfoundland (Terranova) , the Titan hit an iceberg while traveling at 25 knots.

[Hazelnut]

That's an amazing story. The Titan, Titanic and their eerie parallels.

Thanks for the thread, its been a strange walk into high weirdness.

[boycotteverything]

Other than the book itself being published in 1912, no.
Copyright 1898, M.S. Mansfield

(From the book itself)