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Eyeforalie
01-24-2010, 01:10 AM
Giant cattle to be bred back from extinction

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01560/aurochs_1560693c.jpg

By Nick Squires in Rome
Telegraph/co.uk (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/wildlife/7011035/Giant-cattle-to-be-bred-back-from-extinction.html)

Aurochs were immortalised in prehistoric cave paintings and admired for their brute strength and "elephantine" size by Julius Caesar.

But despite their having gone the way of the dodo and the woolly mammoth, there are plans to bring the giant animals back to life.
The huge cattle with sweeping horns which once roamed the forests of Europe have not been seen for nearly 400 years.

Now Italian scientists are hoping to use genetic expertise and selective breeding of modern-day wild cattle to recreate the fearsome beasts which weighed around 2,200lb and stood 6.5 feet at the shoulder.
Breeds of large cattle which most closely resemble Bos primigenius, such as Highland cattle and the white Maremma breed from Italy, are being bred with each other in a technique known as "back-breeding".

At the same time, scientists say they have for the first time created a map of the auroch's genome, so that they know precisely what type of animal they are trying to replicate.

"We were able to analyse auroch DNA from preserved bone material and create a rough map of its genome that should allow us to breed animals nearly identical to aurochs," said team leader Donato Matassino, head of the Consortium for Experimental Biotechnology in Benevento, in the southern Campania region.

"We've already made our first round of crosses between three breeds native to Britain, Spain and Italy. Now we just have to wait and see how the calves turn out."

The last animal disappeared from the British Isles in the Iron Age and the breed was declared extinct in 1627 after a female died in the forests of Poland.

Aurochs are depicted in ochre and charcoal in paintings found on the walls of cave galleries such as those at Lascaux in France and Altamira in Spain. Caesar described them in The Gallic Wars as being "a little below the elephant in size" and a favourite hunting prey for wild Germanic tribesmen.

Their abiding mystique means they remain as the symbol of several states and cities in Europe, having figured prominently in Teutonic folklore. In ancient times, killing an auroch was seen as a great demonstration of courage, with the horns turned into silver-clad drinking cups.

The last time there was an attempt to recreate the animal was on the express orders of Hitler. The Nazis ordered a pair of German zoologists to recreate the auroch as part of the Third Reich's belief in racial superiority and eugenics.

Herman Goering hoped to use the aurochs to populate a vast hunting reserve which he planned to create in the conquered territories of Eastern Europe.
Many geneticists argue that though the Heck may resemble their ancient forebears, they will be genetically very different.

"There are a number of rare breeds that have been brought back to life in recent years, such as the Cumberland pig," said Dr Claire Barber, from the Rare Breeds Survival Trust. "But our view is that what has been recreated is something that looks like the old breed, but which is not genetically the same.

"You would need to interbreed animals that are very close to the auroch in their genetic make-up. The closest you could find in Britain are two semi-feral breeds: the Chillingham and the Vaynol. If there are breeds which maintain many of the attributes of an auroch, then it could well be feasible. It's certainly a very exciting project."

If the Italian-led project is successful, it will raise questions of what to do with an animal which boasts a size and temper akin to a tetchy rhinoceros.

"Even the wild cattle we have today are very hard to handle and an auroch would be even more difficult," said Dr Barber. "Aurochs were significantly larger than any cattle in existence and they would be potentially dangerous.

"There would be some serious management issues – to look after their teeth and feet, for instance, you might have to sedate them with dart guns.

"You wouldn't want to try to milk one – that's assuming that the females produced milk when they didn't have calves."

Predecessor of Cows, The Aurochs, Were Still Living In The Netherlands Around AD 600

Science Daily (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/12/081212081544.htm)

Archaeological researchers at the University of Groningen have discovered that the aurochs, the predecessor of our present-day cow, lived in the Netherlands for longer than originally assumed. Remains of bones recently retrieved from a horn core found in Holwerd (Friesland, Netherlands), show that the aurochs became extinct in around AD 600 and not in the fourth century.

http://www.petermaas.nl/extinct/speciesinfo/images/Aurochs-Harder.jpg


Jurassic Park. Sweet.

skunk
01-24-2010, 01:16 AM
Very cool. Apparently there's already been some successful back breeding of the aurochs and its called the heck cattle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heck_cattle).

Lol, I guess the article mentions them, nevermind.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/Heck_cattle_male.jpg

KIWI
01-24-2010, 01:22 AM
nice one eye.....Auruch burger?... mmmmmmmmmmmmm

lala
01-24-2010, 06:40 AM
I wonder what type of cattle dog they'll use, with these monsters :D

Lexion
01-24-2010, 10:20 AM
fearsome beasts which weighed around 2,200lb and stood 6.5 feet at the shoulder.

Holy cow !!!!!

:o

Hazelnut
01-24-2010, 11:26 AM
If there was even the slightest chance they were being brought back from extinction for any other reason than food supply, I can't think of it.

skunk
01-24-2010, 11:44 AM
If there was even the slightest chance they were being brought back from extinction for any other reason than food supply, I can't think of it.

Cuz they look fucking badass???

Bitchkoma
01-24-2010, 12:31 PM
Just for proof of concept? If they can engineer throwbacks like this, perhaps they can engineer Neanderthals one day. And then they can be our slaves. And then they can fight our wars in space for us. And then they can rebel. And then they can become Klingons.

Hazelnut
01-24-2010, 03:52 PM
Cuz they look fucking badass???

There is that. :)

Lexion
01-24-2010, 05:53 PM
I sense a new wave in
beastiality.

KIWI
01-25-2010, 12:30 AM
I sense a new wave in
beastiality.

take the "blue" pill Lex,..... and 2 more notches on the restraints :cool:

The Cryptid
01-25-2010, 12:10 PM
wow lol

a thread all about me and my kind, no cameras please! ;)

Mungodave
01-25-2010, 05:51 PM
fearsome beasts which weighed around 2,200lb and stood 6.5 feet at the shoulder.

Holy cow !!!!!

:o



That would be 8,800 Quarter pounders.

"A shit load of fries with that?"

Holy McFuck Batman !

Mungo


.

Mungodave
01-25-2010, 05:52 PM
I sense a new wave in
beastiality.


:ban:

RubyRocket
01-25-2010, 07:05 PM
Jesus Lex, stop taking my brain places it doesn't need to go...
blech

mojo
01-25-2010, 08:59 PM
possibly a mural of an auroch at catahoyuk.

http://www.smm.org/catal/artifacts/murals/

Jackinthebox
01-25-2010, 09:17 PM
Awesome

http://vm-000002.kentnis.com/erinke/grasfedfoods.com/catalog/images/beef-cuts-L.gif

mojo
01-25-2010, 09:19 PM
dont forget to use the tail in soup.
smoke the hooves.
make a wallet from the ears.
sugar coat the eyeballs.
fry the tongue.
and make a condom from the nostrils.



:D

Jackinthebox
01-25-2010, 09:30 PM
dont forget to use the tail in soup.
smoke the hooves.
make a wallet from the ears.
sugar coat the eyeballs.
fry the tongue.
and make a condom from the nostrils.

:D

Lol. There's a little Jamaican place around here that makes the best oxtail ever ever.

mojo
01-25-2010, 09:38 PM
Lol. There's a little Jamaican place around here that makes the best oxtail ever ever.

yah.....they make an awesome buffalo tail soup up north (northern territory).
not mention kangaroo tail......mmmmmmmm.

Lexion
01-25-2010, 09:59 PM
Jesus Lex, stop taking my brain places it doesn't need to go...
blech

Did that a couple years ago.

Seems like it helped.

skunk
01-25-2010, 11:34 PM
wow lol

a thread all about me and my kind, no cameras please! ;)

Welcome to amkon cryptid...

Jackinthebox
01-26-2010, 12:08 AM
yah.....they make an awesome buffalo tail soup up north (northern territory).
not mention kangaroo tail......mmmmmmmm.

I never had Kangaroo. Had the chance once, but my girl couldn't handle it at the table if I ordered it so I had to pass. I hate missed opportunities like that.

Bitchkoma
01-26-2010, 12:57 AM
dont forget to use the tail in soup.
smoke the hooves.
make a wallet from the ears.
sugar coat the eyeballs.
fry the tongue.
and make a condom from the nostrils.



:D

If any of you are ever in Malaysia, Thailand or Indonesia, don't forget to ask for "Sup Torpedo" -- Torpedo Soup. You can guess what it's made off :D

mojo
01-26-2010, 01:10 AM
I never had Kangaroo. Had the chance once, but my girl couldn't handle it at the table if I ordered it so I had to pass. I hate missed opportunities like that.

kangaroo is nice.
forget the soup go for a kanga steak, preferably with a bbq or spicey dark sauce.

skunk
01-26-2010, 01:19 AM
If any of you are ever in Malaysia, Thailand or Indonesia, don't forget to ask for "Sup Torpedo" -- Torpedo Soup. You can guess what it's made off :D

Penis?

Bitchkoma
01-26-2010, 12:15 PM
It's good for your Manly Energy hahahaha.