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skunk
01-19-2010, 10:39 PM
German scientists develop fast-acting germ killer (http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/LDE60E0WR.htm)

Pretty cool stuff, they could sure use a disinfectant like this in the less developed world.

A new fast-acting disinfectant that is effective against bacteria, viruses and other germs could help stop the spread of deadly infections in hospitals, German scientists said on Wednesday.

Researchers from the Robert Koch Institute in Berlin said they had developed a fast-acting, practical formula which would kill germs on surgical instruments without damaging them through corrosion.

Disinfectants are the first line of defence against the spread of hospital-acquired infections and effective cleaning of surgical instruments is vital to beating them.

The German formula works against a wide range of germs, including some that survive ordinary disinfectants, such as Mycobacterium avium bacteria which can cause a tuberculosis-type illness and enteroviruses that may cause polio.

Drug-resistant bacteria, the so-called "superbugs", are a growing problem in hospitals worldwide and poor hygiene among staff is often blamed for the spread of such infections. They kill about 25,000 people a year in Europe and about 19,000 in the United States.

In previous studies, the German team found a simple alkaline detergent that could eradicate prions -- disease-causing proteins that are particularly hard to get rid of because they can become fixed onto surfaces through the use of some conventional disinfectants.

In their new study, Michael Beekes and Martin Mielke from the Institute's hygiene department mixed the alkaline with varying amounts of alcohol and tested its ability to rid surgical instruments of bacteria, viruses and fungi and prions. They found that a mixture with 20 percent alcohol was best.

Beekes said he thought the new disinfectant could have a huge impact on hospital safety protocols.

"Standard formulations that eliminate prions are very corrosive," he said in the study published in the Journal of General Virology.

"The solution we've come up with is not only safer and more material-friendly, but easy to prepare, cheap and highly effective against a wide variety of infectious agents."

A Dutch study published last week found that the methicillin-resistant staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) superbug, which can cause blood poisoning, spreads not freely but in clusters, suggesting it is spread through healthcare systems by patients being repeatedly admitted to different hospitals.

lala
01-19-2010, 10:45 PM
Cool stuff . . . but will they have a problem with people trying to steal it, cos of the alcohol content? Time will tell :D

Oblivion
01-20-2010, 01:27 AM
it sure beats lemon juice !

Raptor Jesus
01-20-2010, 04:45 AM
More Renaissance technology.

Byotrol is another future-cleaner that has come out recently.

I wonder if either of them are better than MMS though...

The big question is whether they are easy to reproduce and affordable in the developing world.

Oblivion
01-20-2010, 05:19 AM
it sure beats lemon juice !


Linky (http://amkon.net/lemon-juice-antiseptic-doctor-t24431.html?p=330304)

skunk
01-20-2010, 09:42 AM
More Renaissance technology.

Byotrol is another future-cleaner that has come out recently.

I wonder if either of them are better than MMS though...

The big question is whether they are easy to reproduce and affordable in the developing world.

From the sounds of the article, the newly developed antiseptic is somewhat affordable.

Lexion
01-20-2010, 11:16 AM
I wonder if either of them are better than MMS though...

Ok, I Googled MMS.

Miracle Mineral Solution ?

Heh.

It miraculous.

Just like Jesus.

Yeah.....

skunk
01-20-2010, 11:18 AM
Chlorine dioxide lex (http://blogs.healthfreedomalliance.org/blog/2010/01/15/home-uses-for-mms-chlorine-dioxide/comment-page-1/)

Lexion
01-20-2010, 11:21 AM
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa20/Lexion07/bullshit.jpg

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa20/Lexion07/funny-pictures-cat-will-do-science.jpg

skunk
01-20-2010, 11:25 AM
Chlorine Dioxide from EPA (google quickview of PDF) (http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:MvhDreGCK1EJ:www.epa.gov/safewater/mdbp/pdf/alter/chapt_4.pdf+chlorine+dioxide&hl=en&gl=us&sig=AHIEtbQOBZqp3f_lPCZrvwPp9crtVKDYXw)

Its not a scam buddy.

Lexion
01-20-2010, 11:26 AM
All fine and dandy.

When you stick "miracle" in
the name, might as well have
Vince selling it with ShamWow.

skunk
01-20-2010, 11:35 AM
Haha definitely quite a bit of creative marketing, I'll agree with you on that.

Oblivion
01-21-2010, 01:02 AM
All fine and dandy.

When you stick "miracle" in
the name, might as well have
Vince selling it with ShamWow.

how about we call it

"simpson and son miracle tonic"

we can start selling it town to town, too :lol:

http://tvmedia.ign.com/tv/image/article/998/998618/simpsons-homer-grampa-tonic_1247601839.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cJtmU-mgIy8/SVaJBIlJ2vI/AAAAAAAAAIU/cMezBpH_isk/s320/Simpsons+tonic.gif

theeindiee
01-21-2010, 01:09 AM
So... why is it that Germans don't like Germs so much?

Raptor Jesus
01-21-2010, 05:05 AM
LOL Indiee.

Lex, yes Miracle Mineral Solution is an unfortunate name, I think it acts against MMS's credibility instead of for it, but I've tried it myself and it's good stuff.

Skunk,
When mixed with an acid the sodium chlorite solution releases minute amounts of Chlorine Dioxide, which is normally toxic but in dilutions of a few parts per million the body seems to like it.

There are tons of good testimonials out there, plus I know it's good from my own experience.

Some good threads on ATS from stand up members discussing the finer details.