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mojo
12-17-2009, 11:05 PM
Monument Lifted from Cleopatra's Underwater City (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=121553687)

lots of photo's.

Archaeologists on Thursday hoisted a 9-ton temple pylon from the waters of the Mediterranean that was part of the palace complex of the fabled Cleopatra before it became submerged for centuries in the harbor of Alexandria.
The pylon, which once stood at the entrance to a temple of Isis, is to be the centerpiece of an ambitious underwater museum planned by Egypt to showcase the sunken city, believed to have been toppled into the sea by earthquakes in the 4th century.
Divers and underwater archaeologists used a giant crane and ropes to lift the 9-ton, 7.4-foot-tall pylon, covered with muck and seaweed, out of the murky waters. It was deposited ashore as Egypt's top archaeologist, Zahi Hawass, and other officials watched.
The pylon was part of a sprawling palace from which the Ptolemaic dynasty ruled Egypt and where 1st Century B.C. Queen Cleopatra wooed the Roman general Marc Antony before they both committed suicide after their defeat by Augustus Caesar.
The temple dedicated to Isis, a pharaonic goddess of fertility and magic, is at least 2,050 years old, but archaeologists believe it's likely much older. The pylon was cut from a single slab of red granite quarried in Aswan, some 700 miles (more than 1,100 kilometers) to the south, officials said.
"The cult of Isis was so powerful, it's no wonder Cleopatra chose to make her living quarters next to the temple," said coastal geoarchaeologist Jean-Daniel Stanley of the Smithsonian's National Museum of Natural History.
Egyptian authorities hope that eventually the pylon will become a part of the underwater museum, an ambitious attempt to draw tourists to the country's northern coast, often overshadowed by the grand pharaonic temples of Luxor in the south, the Giza pyramids outside Cairo and the beaches of the Red Sea.
They are hoping the allure of Alexandria, founded in 331 B.C. by Alexander the Great, can also be a draw.
Cleopatra's palace and other buildings and monuments now lie strewn on the seabed in the harbor of Alexandria, the second largest city of Egypt. Since 1994, archaeologists have been exploring the ruins, one of the richest underwater excavations in the Mediterranean, with some 6,000 artifacts. Another 20,000 objects are scattered off other parts of Alexandria's coast, said Ibrahim Darwish, head of the city's underwater archaeology department.
In recent years, excavators have discovered dozens of sphinxes in the harbor, along with pieces of what is believed to be the Alexandria Lighthouse, or Pharos, which was one of the seven wonders of the ancient world.
The pylon is the first major artifact extracted from the harbor since 2002, when authorities banned further removal of major artifacts from the sea for fear it would damage them.
"The tower is unique among Alexandria's antiquities. We believe it was part of the complex surrounding Cleopatra's palace," Hawass said, as the crane gently placed the pylon on the harbor bank. "This is an important part of Alexandria's history and it brings us closer to knowing more about the ancient city."
Hawass has already launched another high-profile dig connected to Cleopatra. In April, he said he hopes to find the long-lost tomb of Antony and Cleopatra — and that he believes it may be inside a temple of Osiris located about 30 miles (50 kilometers) west of Alexandria.


awesome.

Cogburn
12-17-2009, 11:32 PM
Holy shit it looks like it's still partially legible...

Hermeticists have been watching this with anxious anticipation. There are steles stored with Cleopatra that have been lost to our tradition for millennia.

mojo
12-17-2009, 11:38 PM
maybe not everything from the library was lost either, the fire story never sat well with me.
cuneiform tablets could have survived, even under water this long.
whatever the case there will be some amazing discoveries from there in the coming years imo.

Jackinthebox
12-17-2009, 11:50 PM
maybe not everything from the library was lost either, the fire story never sat well with me.
cuneiform tablets could have survived, even under water this long.
whatever the case there will be some amazing discoveries from there in the coming years imo.

Yeah, but not released mainstream.

Cogburn
12-17-2009, 11:55 PM
Yeah, but not released mainstream.

Heh... I'll have a copy.

Good enough for me.

Lexion
12-18-2009, 12:00 AM
What about the Tablets of Thoth ?

Those are so real.

Really.

They are.

Cogburn
12-18-2009, 12:04 AM
Hahaha... That's awesome!

You know I'd never heard of that, but that's I'm guessing it's because they are fakes.

There is such a thing as the Emerald Tablet of Hermes. Hermes and Thoth are analogous gods between (Ptolemaic) Egypt and Greece, but there were never any such steles referred to as "Emerald Tablets of Thoth".

That's a seriously creative forgery, and I can't help but wonder if it wasn't one of the groups of which I am a member that did it. It obscures the discussion of Hermetics in the public sphere in almost the exact same manner as SERPO does for UFOlogy.

mojo
12-18-2009, 12:06 AM
i'd love for them to find something by sanchuniathon, somewhere, anywhere, sometime.
there in lies some wicked cool shit.

Lexion
12-18-2009, 12:10 AM
I was being sarcastic.

Then again, some say Hermes
is the "third born".

Meh.

mojo
12-18-2009, 12:14 AM
I was being sarcastic.



i knew that.

i was being serious. there is a good chance that something written by sanchuniathon would have been kept in alexandria.

mojo
12-18-2009, 12:16 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanchuniathon

Lexion
12-18-2009, 12:17 AM
I want that to be true, just
as I want aliens visiting to be
true.

Thing is, The Alexandria Library
has more against it than Roswell.

Cogburn
12-18-2009, 12:24 AM
I was being sarcastic.

Then again, some say Hermes
is the "third born".

Meh.

Hermes is the "Thrice Great" which is a mistranslation of the original Greek honorariam "megistou kai megistou theou megalou Hermou". The author is commonly attributed with the name "Hermes Trismegistus", "trismegistus" meaning "thrice great".

Dunno where you got "third born" from.

Jackinthebox
12-18-2009, 12:25 AM
Heh... I'll have a copy.

Good enough for me.

But you'll never get a copy of a cool item that have. Na na na na na. :p

Cogburn
12-18-2009, 12:26 AM
But you'll never get a copy of a cool item that have. Na na na na na. :p

Well unless you tell me what it is I have no way of being jealous of you, do I?

Lexion
12-18-2009, 12:27 AM
Dunno where you got "third born" from.

AE.

History isn't my thing.

I do try, though.

(I'm gonna get so Cogburned)

Cogburn
12-18-2009, 12:31 AM
Hahah.. you did wander right smack into the middle of my bailiwick.

Tell those AE tards that if they want to learn a thing or two about Hermetics I'll be right here waiting to destroy their preconceived notions.

Hell, I can even introduce them to a professor at UCLA that translated the originals.

:)

captainkiwi
12-18-2009, 12:32 AM
Heh... I'll have a copy.

Good enough for me.
I will wait for your in depth report

Cogburn
12-18-2009, 12:36 AM
One foot in that world, one foot in yours.

That's been the deal from day one.

Eyeforalie
12-18-2009, 12:59 AM
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Eyeforalie
12-18-2009, 01:01 AM
haha! wheres the delete button? I thought that was a pm!

hahaha

skunk
12-18-2009, 01:18 AM
haha! wheres the delete button? I thought that was a pm!

hahaha

You have to click edit, then the delete button in the quick edit popup box.

Eyeforalie
12-18-2009, 01:41 AM
I'll let it stand as an example of why we should be able to edit/delete.

Thanks though. ;)

mojo
06-27-2011, 07:04 PM
Some more pics of the underwater monuments here.

http://www.unesco.org/csi/pub/source/alex6.htm

And here's a preview of 'Treasures of the Sunken City'.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/preview/i_2417.html

And a bunch of cool video's of the underwater excavations.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/sunken/clips/

Map of the excavated city.

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o223/mojo4sale/Alexandria_map.gif

Ducky
06-27-2011, 07:15 PM
Hopefully your thread won't become lost in the everyday drivel Mojo?

BUMP

Lexion
06-28-2011, 11:18 AM
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mojo
06-28-2011, 06:29 PM
little princess had a thing for seamen.

;)

Lexion
06-28-2011, 09:15 PM
:w00t: