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Royal
12-16-2009, 01:47 AM
I am determined to become awake in my dream and be in control of my surroundings. I will begin to manifest people I want to meet and ask them questions.


Does any amkonites have any special requests?

Cogburn
12-16-2009, 03:14 AM
I think there was a guy doing the same thing over at OMF.

I think you should find him and kill him.

Infinite`Eternal`Forever
12-16-2009, 03:32 AM
STOP, STOP, STOP, STOP, STOP quoting that fucking booty warrior.

Oblivion
12-16-2009, 03:46 AM
I am determined to become awake in my dream and be in control of my surroundings. I will begin to manifest people I want to meet and ask them questions.


Does any amkonites have any special requests?

*raises hand*


can you ask my racing hero Ayrton Senna to send the boney guy with the sickle to schumi's mercedes F1 during a race next year?

i thought we seen the last of that cum dumpster "poo-smacker" in F1, yet now he is returning to race in 2010. :rolleyes: :( :mad:

i'd like to see him make an exit thats quicker than his return ;)

Eyeforalie
12-16-2009, 04:18 AM
Come visit me and puff and chat. See ya soon.

Oblivion
12-16-2009, 04:26 AM
im the only person in chat ! what ya doin to me efal ?

Hazelnut
12-16-2009, 11:33 AM
I am determined to become awake in my dream and be in control of my surroundings. I will begin to manifest people I want to meet and ask them questions.

Does any amkonites have any special requests?

No special request but I am respectful of your determination to dream your life in a lucid state. IMO, one is only in control of oneself. Thus your surroundings are already in your control.

You've manifested me in your thread. I hope that suits you and helps you on your path. :cool:

anarch
12-16-2009, 11:38 AM
Please visit me in my dreams....Fair warning..I have fucked up dreams. Last night I dreamed I survived the biggest tidal wave ever. IT looked nothing like hollywood This thing was...Ungoddly in it height. Then I went on to dream I was in a building and I watched planes smash into the two towers. THen the people in the building I was in did not want me to exit the building...I used the stairs to leave.

I have fucked up dreams.. Please if you dare join me.

Hazelnut
12-16-2009, 11:57 AM
Please visit me in my dreams....Fair warning..I have fucked up dreams. Last night I dreamed I survived the biggest tidal wave ever. IT looked nothing like hollywood This thing was...Ungoddly in it height. Then I went on to dream I was in a building and I watched planes smash into the two towers. THen the people in the building I was in did not want me to exit the building...I used the stairs to leave.

I have fucked up dreams.. Please if you dare join me.

Hey Anarch, have you been dreaming about your online buddies/frenemies? I have. We're all on a tour bus heading somewhere, and suddenly we're around a campfire in little cliques, looking nervously over our shoulders at the other little cliques, anticipating, strategizing, and maneuvering our positions in readiness for something big. A child is born and the sun comes up.

Now that's fucked up.

anarch
12-16-2009, 12:02 PM
hmmmm Interesting.

Hazelnut
12-16-2009, 12:04 PM
I have a visual of you stroking your goatee. Hahaha

Lexion
12-16-2009, 12:04 PM
Christ.

I was just doing that.

You scare me.

Hazelnut
12-16-2009, 12:05 PM
;)

skunk
12-16-2009, 12:51 PM
Royal, you're a fucked up dude, but I bet you'd be fun to cause havoc with in dreamland.

Trauma Teased
12-16-2009, 12:55 PM
Thus your surroundings are already in your control.



Yeah, well, if that is true, why do I still get bills in the mail?

Hazelnut
12-16-2009, 01:13 PM
Yeah, well, if that is true, why do I still get bills in the mail?

Because you believe you will get bills in the mail. You can't fool your beliefs. But they can fool you.

Trauma Teased
12-16-2009, 01:15 PM
Because you believe you will get bills in the mail. You can't fool your beliefs. But they can fool you.

Oh, right...
:rolleyes:

So, I take it you don't get bills at all, then? Or do get them, in that case because you choose to believe that you get them?

Yes or no, do you get bills?

Hazelnut
12-16-2009, 01:21 PM
Oh, right...
:rolleyes:

So, I take it you don't get bills at all, then? Or do get them, in that case because you choose to believe that you get them?

Yes or no, do you get bills?

Yes, I get bills. I believe I will keep on getting bills. I wish (keyword denotes desire) I would'nt get bills. I wish I could believe I wouldn't get bills. When I finally do believe I won't get bills, I won't get bills. But since I can't believe what I wish I will continue to get bills. When I believe in wishes and not even think of reality, I won't get bills.

I'm not that good, but I'm trying.

Trauma Teased
12-16-2009, 01:26 PM
Yes, I get bills. I believe I will keep on getting bills. I wish (keyword denotes desire) I would'nt get bills. I wish I could believe I wouldn't get bills. When I finally do believe I won't get bills, I won't get bills. But since I can't believe what I wish I will continue to get bills. When I believe in wishes and not even think of reality, I won't get bills.

I'm not that good, but I'm trying.

Why don't you just believe that you can believe that you won't get bills, then?

Christ, what a load of stoopid dumb fuck New Age crap. But at least you've got the hang of not thinking of reality.

Hazelnut
12-16-2009, 01:27 PM
Why don't you just believe that you can believe that you won't get bills, then?

Christ, what a load of stoopid dumb fuck New Age crap. But at least you've got the hang of not thinking of reality.

Its my ride and I'm having fun with it. :eek:

If I knew the secret to forcing my beliefs to change at will, I'd help you out too.

Lexion
12-16-2009, 01:28 PM
Christ, what a load of stoopid dumb fuck New Age crap. But at least you've got the hang of not thinking of reality.

CAT FIGHT

Trauma Teased
12-16-2009, 01:30 PM
Its my ride and I'm having fun with it. :eek:


I bet you are. Childish dreams and fantasy play can be such a welcome relief from having to cope with that boring reality, right?

Well then, you just go right back to sleep and dream on. Don't let the postman wake you up when he comes with the bills.

captainkiwi
12-16-2009, 01:40 PM
"I am no longer who I think I am. I am where ever I choose not to think'

figure that one out

Hazelnut
12-16-2009, 01:40 PM
I bet you are. Childish dreams and fantasy play can be such a welcome relief from having to cope with that boring reality, right?

Well then, you just go right back to sleep and dream on. Don't let the postman wake you up when he comes with the bills.

What exactly is wrong with childish dreams and fantasy? Reality is based on perception. That's not new agey bullshit. Its well, reality.

Because you believe in your collection of fantasy in tandem with the rest of the world does not mean I have to follow suit. In fact, I've done an excellent job of not following the crowd for what seems like forever.

I have in fact, changed many of my beliefs by concentrating on their origin and purpose, how I came to believe in them and how to reverse that process. It takes a huge amount of effort to dig up old beliefs and examine them in the light.

I used to believe every man in the world was an idiot. Because I concentrated on the foundation of that belief, examined it, its source and function, I've been able to overcome that "belief". I now believe half the men in the world are idiots.

Trauma Teased
12-16-2009, 01:53 PM
I used to believe every man in the world was an idiot. Because I concentrated on the foundation of that belief, examined it, its source and function, I've been able to overcome that "belief". I now believe half the men in the world are idiots.

Oh my, what big and lofty words! Mumbo jumbo, how impressive it all sounds! You're quite the magician, aren't you? What, you managed to simply change your mind about something? Someone alert the press and call the Nobel Prize comittee!

But sadly you have obviously also decided to join the idiot half of the world. People like you are the wet dream of every New Age con man who has a stoopid dumb fuck fairy tale to sell.

Hazelnut
12-16-2009, 01:58 PM
Oh my, what big and lofty words! Mumbo jumbo, how impressive it all sounds! You're quite the magician, aren't you? What, you managed to simply change your mind about something? Someone alert the press and call the Nobel Prize comittee!

But sadly you have obviously also decided to join the idiot half of the world. People like you are the wet dream of every New Age con man who has a stoopid dumb fuck fairy tale to sell.

Disgust and contempt noted.

Trauma Teased
12-16-2009, 01:59 PM
Disgust and contempt noted.

Good.

captainkiwi
12-16-2009, 02:00 PM
To deny your dreams is to deny your subconscious reality. Dreams allow us to venture into this strange land and take what we need back into our conscious world. Dreams help us to better process the world around us from the most ancient parts of our self. The subconscious is a vast store house of all knowledge that is bound to our genetic
make up.......

Hazelnut
12-16-2009, 02:00 PM
Good.

Feel better now? I hope everyone takes your side so you can feel triumphant and superior.

Trauma Teased
12-16-2009, 02:01 PM
To deny your dreams is to deny your subconscious reality. Dreams allow us to venture into this strange land and take what we need back into our conscious world. Dreams help us to better process the world around us from the most ancient parts of our self. The subconscious is a vast store house of all knowledge that is bound to our genetic
make up.......

You are absolutely correct. The problems only start when people are no longer able to understand the difference between dreams and reality.

Hazelnut
12-16-2009, 02:02 PM
You are absolutely correct. The problems only start when people are no longer able to understand the difference between dreams and reality.

I'm willing to learn what you think the difference is.

Trauma Teased
12-16-2009, 02:03 PM
I'm willing to learn what you think the difference is.

Bills, for one thing.

Hazelnut
12-16-2009, 02:07 PM
Bills, for one thing.

That was a cowardly retort and shows your shallow thinking. What is the difference psychologically? Do you know? Have you ever seriously considered the question?

Other than insults and evasive retorts, do you have anything interesting to teach me about the origins and manifestations of your personal beliefs? You're beliefs came from somewhere. You must know why you believe the way you do or you're not really thinking for yourself.

captainkiwi
12-16-2009, 02:09 PM
Madness is the direct result of on longer being able to separate one state of of awareness from the other eg. no bills come to the subconscious but the just keep on coming to the conscious .......not wanting to sound pithy at all

Raptor Jesus
12-16-2009, 02:10 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_pzgVDzOEizg/SnO2MLAr09I/AAAAAAAACDg/Dds8p0WiSQU/s320/catfight.jpg

Hazelnut
12-16-2009, 02:11 PM
I enjoy exploring ideas. Call me a dumbass if you like. It only makes me laugh.

Lexion
12-16-2009, 02:12 PM
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa20/Lexion07/cocktail_fight.gif

captainkiwi
12-16-2009, 02:13 PM
BGC ......spoiler says what?

Trauma Teased
12-16-2009, 02:16 PM
That was a cowardly retort and shows your shallow thinking. What is the difference psychologically? Do you know? Have you ever seriously considered the question?

Other than insults and evasive retorts, do you have anything interesting to teach me about the origins and manifestations of your personal beliefs? You're beliefs came from somewhere. You must know why you believe the way you do or you're not really thinking for yourself.

Insults? Is that what you call it when people challenge your fantasy world?

My origins of my personal beliefs comes, OF COURSE, from my life experiences. Like it does for EVERY SINGLE LIVING PERSON on the planet.
(You people just love to make the most trivial stuff sound like pompous fanfares, don't you?)

Thankfully, I am able to handle the real world. I have no need to escape into a fairy tale New Age world to survive mentally. Therefore my beliefs are grounded in reality, not stoopid mumbo jumbo.

Bloody hell, no surpise you want me to "teach" you things. It must be to exhausting to open your eyes, take a look around in reality and think for yourself.

Raptor Jesus
12-16-2009, 02:17 PM
Unspoiled it cos the tags wouldn't work... Dunno if that's against T+C's or not.

http://amyking.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/bitch-fight.jpg

Lexion
12-16-2009, 02:17 PM
I'm waiting for "Indigo Child"
to get thrown into this.

captainkiwi
12-16-2009, 02:18 PM
So what do you think dreams are for ? If not to seed one's reality!
hahaha BGC
fuck the rules

Hazelnut
12-16-2009, 02:19 PM
So what do you think dreams are for ? If not to seed one's reality!
hahaha BGC
fuck the rules

Now we're getting somewhere. Why is it that science still can't prove the purpose of dreams?

captainkiwi
12-16-2009, 02:20 PM
I'm waiting for "Indigo Child"
to get thrown into this.
lGEJPXAowHY

Trauma Teased
12-16-2009, 02:26 PM
So what do you think dreams are for ? If not to seed one's reality!
hahaha BGC
fuck the rules

OK, then, dream a dream of not getting bills. Get back to me on how that works out for you.

Hazelnut
12-16-2009, 02:36 PM
OK, then, dream a dream of not getting bills. Get back to me on how that works out for you.

You are the one with the problem with bills. Maybe you should stop worrying about it and just enjoy them when they show up in your mail slot. You know they are coming, so relax. Its your reality.

Why does another perspective frustrate you so much that you feel compelled to attack and belittle it? Are you feeling threatened by other points of view? What are you afraid of?

Does it make you feel secure knowing that your beliefs are shared by most of the other humans you know? Are you content with the structure of the world around you? Your beliefs (and mine) support the current paradigm, until we change, the world around us will continue as it has for eons.

Technology and science is based on the principles I'm exploring.

captainkiwi
12-16-2009, 02:43 PM
OK, then, dream a dream of not getting bills. Get back to me on how that works out for you.

I dont dream of not getting bills TT I long for them they are what keep me connected to this fucked up network of nut jobs.
Bills are the anchor to this reality, a reality that I love and cherish. Dreams are just one of the tools in our tool box and in no way can one rely on them. But processed with ones waking mind one can rely on them for greater insight into this reality and even prepare you for the unknown and give one a grater sense of wonder when you find them ringing true. And by that I mean that no dream should be taken at face value for viewed for that level they are just a random series of pictures that mean nothing. Until one dissects them by symbolic means can we truly even begin to grasp their meaning for us on an individual level.......
R-xzfwDAn1I

Trauma Teased
12-16-2009, 02:49 PM
You are the one with the problem with bills. Maybe you should stop worrying about it and just enjoy them when they show up in your mail slot. You know they are coming, so relax. Its your reality.

Why does another perspective frustrate you so much that you feel compelled to attack and belittle it? Are you feeling threatened by other points of view? What are you afraid of?

Does it make you feel secure knowing that your beliefs are shared by most of the other humans you know? Are you content with the structure of the world around you? Your beliefs (and mine) support the current paradigm, until we change, the world around us will continue as it has for eons.

Technology and science is based on the principles I'm exploring.

First: You admitted you also get bills, so I think we've got that covered. Bills are your reality and your problem too, and you are not able to dream or believe your way out of it. Your mumbo jumbo has failed.

Second: I can not even begin to tell you how little threatened I feel by dreamers and fantasy world occupants like you. You people never achieve or do anything. You just sit there with your childish make belief magic wands and TALK. Fail again.

Third: No sane person can be content with the world as it is today. Major fail to even ask that question. And stop your mumbo jumbo, for Chirst sake, beliefs and paradigms my ass, get out of your dream world and DO SOMETHING. Get into politics, join a help programs, whatever, take action and shut the hell up with your pompous speaches. Unless you do, there is no reason to take your concern for the world seriously. Another fail.

"Technology and science is based on the principles I'm exploring." You mean like believing you can believe the bills into to stop coming? Or that contrails are really the NWO trying to poison and kill us all? Hardly. How many fails is it now?

captainkiwi
12-16-2009, 02:51 PM
did dream that I won lotto ......but won something better.....my son came to live full time with me

Trauma Teased
12-16-2009, 02:52 PM
did dream that I won lotto ......but won something better.....my son came to live full time with me

Can't really argue with that. I've got kids too.
:D

Hazelnut
12-16-2009, 02:53 PM
did dream that I won lotto ......but won something better.....my son came to live full time with me

I'm so happy for you and your son!

Hazelnut
12-16-2009, 02:54 PM
First: You admitted you also get bills, so I think we've got that covered. Bills are your reality and your problem too, and you are not able to dream or believe your way out of it. Your mumbo jumbo has failed.

Second: I can not even begin to tell you how little threatened I feel by dreamers and fantasy world occupants like you. You people never achieve or do anything. You just sit there with your childish make belief magic wands and TALK. Fail again.

Third: No sane person can be content with the world as it is today. Major fail to even ask that question. And stop your mumbo jumbo, for Chirst sake, beliefs and paradigms my ass, get out of your dream world and DO SOMETHING. Get into politics, join a help programs, whatever, take action and shut the hell up with your pompous speaches. Unless you do, there is no reason to take your concern for the world seriously. Another fail.

"Technology and science is based on the principles I'm exploring." You mean like believing you can believe the bills into to stop coming? Or that contrails are really the NWO trying to poison and kill us all? Hardly. How many fails is it now?

You are the score keeper, you tell me.

captainkiwi
12-16-2009, 02:58 PM
So TT are you denying the validity of dreams or is it just dreamers you have got a problem with because if it is the latter I completely agree with you on that point. But if you are denying the validity of dreams as an important facility of the human mind then I got to say I think you are wrong.

Hazelnut
12-16-2009, 03:03 PM
Some "dreamer" invented the computer you are conversing through. Another "dreamer" invented the internet you are utilizing to further your own perspective. pfft

Lexion
12-16-2009, 03:04 PM
Ok, gonna be serious for a min.

I've solved trouble-shooting
problems in my dreams.

Just woke up in the middle of
the night and thought "AHA".

But, these times were few, and
I was stressed over being stumped.

So, I think my brain just kept on
working on the problem, after I
went to sleep.

Trauma Teased
12-16-2009, 03:04 PM
So TT are you denying the validity of dreams or is it just dreamers you have got a problem with because if it is the latter I completely agree with you on that point. But if you are denying the validity of dreams as an important facility of the human mind then I got to say I think you are wrong.

It is the dreamers I have a problem with. Spesifically people who are not able to tell the difference between their dreams and the reality they live in.

skunk
12-16-2009, 03:05 PM
Ok, gonna be serious for a min.

I've solved trouble-shooting
problems in my dreams.

Just woke up in the middle of
the night and thought "AHA".

But, these times were few, and
I was stressed over being stumped.

So, I think my brain just kept on
working on the problem, after I
went to sleep.


Your subconscious is aware of much more than the conscious mind, and does seem to work through problems during sleep.

Hazelnut
12-16-2009, 03:06 PM
It is the dreamers I have a problem with. Spesifically people who are not able to tell the difference between their dreams and the reality they live in.

Meaning, you are the judge, jury and executioner on the difference between dreams and reality? What a laugh. You're so full of yourself.

Addressing my comments as "you people" shows everyone reading this thread where your head is.

captainkiwi
12-16-2009, 03:06 PM
come on Eris you know you want to
xbLuWciXFcM

captainkiwi
12-16-2009, 03:12 PM
It is the dreamers I have a problem with. Spesifically people who are not able to tell the difference between their dreams and the reality they live in.
It can be a very thin line for some people and yes it is is imperative that we know where that line begins and ends for once broken it is very hard to mend just take a look at the mad sad and the bad that walk our streets and fill up the mental health units around the world

Trauma Teased
12-16-2009, 03:13 PM
Some "dreamer" invented the computer you are conversing through. Another "dreamer" invented the internet you are utilizing to further your own perspective. pfft

"pffft"... LOL!

(I see they taught you well over at SHTF.)

And those "dreamers" you are talking about, were ACHIEVERS. They didn't simply sit on their ass BELIEVING that they could somehow manifest a computer, thinking they could DREAM a computer into becoming a reality.

They got the job done. You know, by actual WORK. Without the make belief dream magic wand.

Get the difference? It didn't just stop with the belief or the dream. The dream was simply the beginning, the inspiration, the idea. Then they went out into the REAL world and used REAL materials and REAL stuff to build a REAL computer that worked in the REAL world.

(Edit for spelling.)

Hazelnut
12-16-2009, 03:13 PM
It can be a very thin line for some people and yes it is is imperative that we know where that line begins and ends for once broken it is very hard to mend just take a look at the mad sad and the bad that walk our streets and fill up the mental health units around the world

Can you explain the boundaries between the very thin line?

Trauma Teased
12-16-2009, 03:14 PM
Addressing my comments as "you people" shows everyone reading this thread where your head is.

And, sadly for you, the thread also shows everyone where your head is.

Lexion
12-16-2009, 03:15 PM
Crazy / Sane

Hazelnut
12-16-2009, 03:15 PM
"pffft"... LOL!

(I see they taught you well over at SHTF.)

And those "dreamers" you are talking about, were ACHIEVERS. They didn't simply sit on their ass BELIEVING that they could somehow manifest a computerf, thinking they could DREAM a computer into becoming a reality.

They got the job done. You know, by actual WORK. Without the make belief dream magic wand.

Get the difference? It didn't just stop with the belief or the dream. The dream was simply the beginning, the inspiration, the idea. Then they went out into the REAL world and used REAL materials and REAL stuff to build a REAL computer that worked in the REAL world.

Exactly. And it all started with a dream, a vision, an idea. Perfect.

You don't know me TT, so you don't know what I've achieved. But you can inflect whatever you like, its your perspective.

captainkiwi
12-16-2009, 03:16 PM
Crazy / Sane
thanks Lex for your simplification of my metaphor

Lexion
12-16-2009, 03:16 PM
thanks Lex for your simplification of my metaphor

Not sure if that was sarcasm.

But, Lord knows; I do try.

captainkiwi
12-16-2009, 03:17 PM
not sarcasm ol'son you were on the money

Trauma Teased
12-16-2009, 03:18 PM
You don't know me TT, so you don't know what I've achieved.

I know what you have achieved in this thread.

Hazelnut
12-16-2009, 03:19 PM
And, sadly for you, the thread also shows everyone where your head is.

I'm not sad. I'm smiling. What you think of me is immaterial and affects me as strongly as a puff of air. My head is fine. It seems to work much better than yours.

captainkiwi
12-16-2009, 03:19 PM
I know what you have achieved in this thread.
gezzzzzzzzzzzzzz...... girl give it up......whats the real issue here ?

Hazelnut
12-16-2009, 03:20 PM
gezzzzzzzzzzzzzz...... girl give it up......whats the real issue here ?

ego

Lexion
12-16-2009, 03:20 PM
gezzzzzzzzzzzzzz...... girl give it up......whats the real issue here ?

I changed my avatar, and
she's pissed at the world.

:D

Trauma Teased
12-16-2009, 03:22 PM
I changed my avatar, and
she's pissed at the world.

:D

Trust Lex to make this about him.

But I want the mask back, damn it!

WHINE!

skunk
12-16-2009, 03:22 PM
If you can't respect warren, who can you respect trauma? Sancho?

Trauma Teased
12-16-2009, 03:26 PM
If you can't respect warren, who can you respect trauma? Sancho?

Now I'm confused again. Bloody avatars.
:cry:

But hey, I can just ask HaselNUT to believe Lex' (and yours!) old avatars into manifesting themselves again! Why didn't I think about that?!

Trauma Teased
12-16-2009, 03:27 PM
I'm not sad. I'm smiling. What you think of me is immaterial and affects me as strongly as a puff of air. My head is fine. It seems to work much better than yours.

There really is no end to your delusions.

captainkiwi
12-16-2009, 03:28 PM
And that concludes dream workshop 101 for today children, now run along and play on the dream highway but dont cross the center line ........ mmmmmmh OK

Hazelnut
12-16-2009, 03:28 PM
You win sweetheart. The board has spoken and I've been voted out. Sniff

Trauma Teased
12-16-2009, 03:30 PM
And that concludes dream workshop 101 for today children, now run along and play on the dream highway but dont cross the center line ........ mmmmmmh OK

What, I am having fun here. It's not everyday someone like Hazelnut shows up at AmKon and graces us with their profound insights.

Let's just hope she doesn't do a warrenb.
:D

Hazelnut
12-16-2009, 03:31 PM
What, I am having fun here. It's not everyday someone like Hazelnut shows up at AmKon and graces us with their profound insights.

Let's just hope she doesn't do a warrenb.
:D

Hazelnut takes a bow for the audience. :hail:

captainkiwi
12-16-2009, 03:37 PM
I got ta go and do shit in the real world for a bit to pay the bills waking up sux sometimes

Raptor Jesus
12-16-2009, 03:39 PM
Carlos Castaneda has some very profound insights on dreaming, losing the rotten parts of the ego and other related subjects.

http://lib.ru/KASTANEDA/kast05_engl.txt

Just one book of many...

Trauma Teased
12-16-2009, 03:41 PM
Carlos Castaneda has some very profound insights on dreaming, losing the rotten parts of the ego and other related subjects.

http://lib.ru/KASTANEDA/kast05_engl.txt

Just one book of many...

I have a feeling you and Hazelnut are going to get along just fine.

Raptor Jesus
12-16-2009, 03:44 PM
I have a feeling you and Hazelnut are going to get along just fine.

http://www.fileitunder.com/uploaded_images/catfight-758695.jpg

captainkiwi
12-16-2009, 03:47 PM
Carlos Castaneda has some very profound insights on dreaming, losing the rotten parts of the ego and other related subjects.

http://lib.ru/KASTANEDA/kast05_engl.txt

Just one book of many...
Now ya talking
get back later really gota go

Hazelnut
12-16-2009, 03:48 PM
Carlos Castaneda has some very profound insights on dreaming, losing the rotten parts of the ego and other related subjects.

http://lib.ru/KASTANEDA/kast05_engl.txt

Just one book of many...

I haven't read him but the name sounds familiar. I have been a prolific dreamer since I can remember. It would be interesting to find out that someone has discovered the actual purpose for dreaming and is able to prove the theory. After all the research I've done on the subject, a conclusive answer is still elusive.

Lexion
12-16-2009, 03:54 PM
Jesus tapdancin' Christ
(as BE would say)

Carlos Castaneda's extraordinary journey into the world of sorcery has
captivated millions of Americans.

I had to stop right there.

Hazelnut
12-16-2009, 03:57 PM
Jesus tapdancin' Christ
(as BE would say)

Carlos Castaneda's extraordinary journey into the world of sorcery has
captivated millions of Americans.

I had to stop right there.

So he is basically the J.K. Rowling for grown ups?

Trauma Teased
12-16-2009, 03:58 PM
See, Lex? I just knew Blossom and Hazelnut would become best of friends.

Sweet dreams, girls!

:lol:

Lexion
12-16-2009, 04:00 PM
So he is basically the J.K. Rowling for grown ups?


Who is JK Rowling ?

They write fiction ?

If so, yeah, I guess so.

Edit for speeling.

Hazelnut
12-16-2009, 04:00 PM
See, Lex? I just knew Blossom and Hazelnut would become best of friends.

Sweet dreams, girls!

:lol:

Hidden behind all that insecurity, I believe you have a good heart afterall.

Paroxysm
12-16-2009, 04:00 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Castaneda

Trauma Teased
12-16-2009, 04:02 PM
Hidden behind all that insecurity, I believe you have a good heart afterall.

Oh, I am so honored.
:rolleyes:

Raptor Jesus
12-16-2009, 04:05 PM
TT, don't you have anything better to do then snipe at strangers on the internet?

I haven't seen you contribute anything worth reading in anything I've read.

Trauma Teased
12-16-2009, 04:06 PM
TT, don't you have anything better to do then snipe at strangers on the internet?

I haven't seen you contribute anything remotely of value in anything I've read.

Read the thread before you speak.

Hazelnut
12-16-2009, 04:07 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Castaneda


"Castaneda often referred to this unknown realm as nonordinary reality, which indicated that this realm was indeed a reality, but radically different from the ordinary reality experienced by human beings who are well engaged in everyday activities as part of their social conditioning. Ordinary reality as experienced by humans was simply a "description" that had been pounded into their awareness since they were infants."

Interesting.

The Wiki quote below illustrates the difference between TT and I who are metaphorically playing the parts of supporter and academic. The never ending struggle between opposing belief systems rages on.

"Supporters claim the books are either true or at least valuable works of philosophy and descriptions of practices which enable an increased awareness. Academic critics claim the books are works of fiction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiction), citing the books' internal contradictions, discrepancies between the books and anthropological data, alternate sources for Castaneda's detailed knowledge of shamanic practices and lack of corroborating evidence."

Lexion
12-16-2009, 04:07 PM
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa20/Lexion07/round_2.jpg

Trauma Teased
12-16-2009, 04:11 PM
Both me and Lex are having a fun day at AmKon.

:lol:

Raptor Jesus
12-16-2009, 04:11 PM
LMAO @ LEX THX man that's too funny

Hazelnut
12-16-2009, 04:18 PM
Who is JK Rowling ?

They right (write) fiction ?

If so, yeah, I guess so.

J.K. Rowling is the author of Harry Potter. Socery and all that jazz. It's made her/him quite rich. People have an intense fascination with the imagination of her/his work. Personally, I'm not a fan, but the author is extremely popular with the kids.

Lexion
12-16-2009, 04:20 PM
Dammit !!!!!

You quoted me before I fixed
my fucking spelling !!!!!

*slinks away*

Hazelnut
12-16-2009, 04:22 PM
Dammit !!!!!

You quoted me before I fixed
my fucking spelling !!!!!

*slinks away*

fixed it for ya.

Lexion
12-16-2009, 04:25 PM
Gee, thanks.

That's MUCH better.

Hazelnut
12-16-2009, 04:28 PM
Gee, thanks.

That's MUCH better.

Are you sure it wasn't one of those subconscious psychological moments? Let the record stand for posterity. Wouldn't want to pull a warren now would you?

Lexion
12-16-2009, 04:30 PM
Meh.

Hazelnut
12-16-2009, 04:34 PM
Aw, its been fun. Thank you TT for playing the straightman in Iori's Dream Forum.

anarch
12-16-2009, 04:47 PM
J.K. Rowling is the author of Harry Potter. Socery and all that jazz. It's made her/him quite rich. People have an intense fascination with the imagination of her/his work. Personally, I'm not a fan, but the author is extremely popular with the kids.

JK Rowling is a chic... Just in case you were wondering... I watched her story once... From being on the eviction list wondering how she was gonna make ends, to getting her story sold and becoming rich... Hers is an interesting story...even if I have no love for harry potter.

Rowling had some ambition and intent and made her dream a reality...

Interesting stuff.

Raptor Jesus
12-16-2009, 05:01 PM
Well said anarch.... determination is the key ingredient that separates the losers from winners.... still struggling with that myself.

*

Thinking about it, nearly everything in our world was just an idle daydream once...

Microsoft, Wikipedia, The Space Shuttle were all random thoughts drifting through some dudes mind once upon a time......

Infinite`Eternal`Forever
12-16-2009, 07:40 PM
Yes, I get bills. I believe I will keep on getting bills. I wish (keyword denotes desire) I would'nt get bills. I wish I could believe I wouldn't get bills. When I finally do believe I won't get bills, I won't get bills. But since I can't believe what I wish I will continue to get bills. When I believe in wishes and not even think of reality, I won't get bills.

I'm not that good, but I'm trying.

This is the biggest load of shit I've ever read in my entire life. Fuck outta here with this bullshit. :rifle:

anarch
12-16-2009, 07:43 PM
This is the biggest load of shit I've ever read in my entire life. Fuck outta here with this bullshit. :rifle:

So I take it you never listen to yourself talk.

Infinite`Eternal`Forever
12-16-2009, 07:44 PM
So I take it you never listen to yourself talk.

Go impress your wife. After all, all she needs is dick to be impressed.

anarch
12-16-2009, 07:46 PM
Which is more than can be said for you my unwanted friend.

Royal
12-16-2009, 07:47 PM
I created a monster.

I resign.

Infinite`Eternal`Forever
12-16-2009, 07:48 PM
Which is more than can be said for you my unwanted friend.

You get an A+ for all the effort you put in for trying to land all your weak ass jabs dude.

Royal
12-16-2009, 07:58 PM
When people show too much emotional energy in their posts over an internet arguement they lose automatically for taking the INTERNET too seriously.

Everyone fails. END OF THREAD.

NO, this thread should be deleted.

anarch
12-16-2009, 08:03 PM
No way, I still would like to take you on a dream journey in my mind... I have very fucked up dreams of late. for like the last year or so... Lots of ...disturbing dreams...

I would not mind company.

mur
12-16-2009, 08:11 PM
I'm tempted to take the ignore button off of IEF.....should I do it?

Maybe I'm missing something of value?

Royal
12-16-2009, 08:22 PM
I'm tempted to take the ignore button off of IEF.....should I do it?

Maybe I'm missing something of value?

As his Internet Big Brother,

I will inform you when the horny pittbull is okay to roam around the premises without a chain.

Infinite`Eternal`Forever
12-16-2009, 09:14 PM
As his Internet Big Brother,


http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa86/etothedouble/epicfacepalm.gif

captainkiwi
12-16-2009, 09:21 PM
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa86/etothedouble/epicfacepalm.gif
should never have let that bitch drive my car

Lexion
12-16-2009, 09:43 PM
should never have let that bitch drive my car

Beautiful !

Eyeforalie
12-16-2009, 10:47 PM
Why don't you just believe that you can believe that you won't get bills, then?

Christ, what a load of stoopid dumb fuck New Age crap. But at least you've got the hang of not thinking of reality.

Ive only read this far...

Haze is right. I dont have bills.

I had a fucked up legal battle a bit back that put me into alot of debt and got me (back) into CT.

I decided after a long while of not having any money that I wasnt going contribute to a perverted system.

When I open my mailbox I see a fun time for my little boy and the paper shredder, not a note saying that I should send some money to some guy.

Im not implying that this method of perception will work for everyone, only implying that its only a matter of perception. I used to get pretty upset about all that shit, then I realized that it doesn't fucking matter, and that I should pick my battles. Literally and everyday.

It may matter to you, personally that you pay your credit card bill. Not to me. So does it really? In the grand scheme of life and living and happiness and all that shit, do your bills matter? Sure, having no credit sucks, but you cant put happiness on your card.

Having no bills is cool. Ya still have to pay for life's necessities, but its all about what kind of life you want to live, and who you think you are. Maybe one day I'll pay my bills. Probably not though. I've learned to live under the radar, and I like it. Its a rabbit hole of its own. Hakuna Matata.

Eyeforalie
12-16-2009, 10:51 PM
I'm tempted to take the ignore button off of IEF.....should I do it?

Maybe I'm missing something of value?

Yes, because your contradicting your statements in the poll over deleting posts.

I like you, so I wont quote you on it. I'll just point it out for ya, take it as you will. ;)

Lexion
12-16-2009, 10:52 PM
Love ya, Eye.

Hope all is well.

Eyeforalie
12-16-2009, 11:09 PM
Thank you and likewise man.

All is well. :)

Eyeforalie
12-16-2009, 11:10 PM
LoL...Did you make that Avy? He couldnt have done that himself, right? Hahaha...

mur
12-16-2009, 11:23 PM
Yes, because your contradicting your statements in the poll over deleting posts.

I like you, so I wont quote you on it. I'll just point it out for ya, take it as you will. ;)

Like you too.

I fail to see any contradiction though.

It's about freedom of choice AND freedom of speech.

IEF has the freedom to post, and I have the freedom to ignore him.

I don't take that decision lightly....in fact if someone told me IEF posted something of value, I'm willing to reconsider.

Eyeforalie
12-17-2009, 12:51 AM
The point of either of those freedoms is to keep reality on an even plane with the purpose of building individual perspective.

You're right though, no contradiction. Carry on. I misunderstood your stance on deletion. Maybe I should have quoted you, I would have seen I was wrong earlier.

Trauma Teased
12-17-2009, 04:22 AM
Having no bills is cool. Ya still have to pay for life's necessities, but its all about what kind of life you want to live, and who you think you are. Maybe one day I'll pay my bills. Probably not though. I've learned to live under the radar, and I like it. Its a rabbit hole of its own. Hakuna Matata.

Anything that works for you, is fine by me. At least you are dealing with reality if you have learned to live under the radar. You didn't just sit on you ass "believing" or "dreaming" the bills away... You are aware that they still arrive, so obviously you haven't retired mentally and settled down in some fantasy world.

And the bills were really just a random pick, one excample out of the many real life issuses people have to deal with. It could have been a broken car, a tooth ache, anything...

(warrenb for spelling again...)

boycotteverything
12-17-2009, 12:03 PM
fuckit. i just toss my bills in the trash. denial gets a bad rap.

skunk
12-17-2009, 12:05 PM
fuckit. i just toss my bills in the trash. denial gets a bad rap.

I suppose that explains the liens on your house hahah

boycotteverything
12-17-2009, 12:07 PM
definitely does.