Skunk linked to huge increase in risk of psychotic disease

[Chorlton]

Told ya so:

People who smoke the highly potent form of cannabis known as skunk are almost seven times more likely to develop a psychotic illness than those who use the traditional strength drug, a new study shows for the first time.




http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/6691992/Skunk-linked-to-huge-increase-in-risk-of-psychotic-disease.html

[skunk]

Finding one news story doesn't make something true. Reefer madness.

[Chorlton]

That One News story was about a lot of research.

[boycotteverything]

don't argue with junkies.

[hp]

The PC term is 'reefer gone mad'.

[Alessandra]

The devil's weed o noes

[boycotteverything]

when it's all you live for, it truly becomes the devil's weed. working in a 5 and 10 cent store just to refill your bag is hell. get it?

[Alessandra]

when it's all you live for, it truly becomes the devil's weed. working in a 5 and 10 cent store just to refill your bag is hell. get it?

shit, working there wont cut it (lol)

[boycotteverything]

there's a hidden message just for you in there.

[Foxtrot Oscar]

How do they know these people weren't going to be bat shit crazy anyway?

Let me guess: there's a piss test.

"If the strip turns blue you're going to be insane, start smoking skunk by the shed load and when you go bat shit, nobody will notice the difference."

You can't study humans. They automatically fuck up any possible test by being involved in it.

Fox

[theeindiee]

I know why. It's not psychosis. It's awakening, and it is a very startling thing. VERY FUCKING STARTLING.

The Holy Graal. The "Cup Bomb" I call it, mon.

[skunk]

How do they know these people weren't going to be bat shit crazy anyway?

No shit.

[Chorlton]

No shit.
No, Skunk.

Its dangerous

[Alessandra]

:roll:

[theeindiee]

Chorlton is a paid christian housewives' shill. I suppose women showing their knickers are inappropriate, too? and the devil's rock and roll?

[Chorlton]

Chorlton is a paid christian housewives' shill. I suppose women showing their knickers are inappropriate, too? and the devil's rock and roll?

And you are a brainless cunt
But do I look worried?

[Alessandra]

And you are a brainless cunt
But do I look worried?

I don't care for you too much, Chorlton

but god damn that was solid.

:lol:

[Chorlton]

That you even care for me at all I find an Insult.
I must try harder.

[Alessandra]

Honey, that's no chip... that's the whole fucking potato riding on your shoulder.

[theeindiee]

you just hate me cuz I'm too gangsta fo' ya.

[boycotteverything]

you just hate me cuz I'm too gangsta fo' ya. ...or maybe because you're a shallow pothead. there are worse things you could be. at least potheads are harmless.

[Chorlton]

Honey, that's no chip... that's the whole fucking potato riding on your shoulder.

I cast out the bait and the fish took it.
Yowzer !

[hp]

Rock and roll isn't the devil's music.

it's those other two, country and western...

[skunk]

No, Skunk.

Its dangerous

You are welcome to believe whatever you like.

[Chorlton]

You are welcome to believe whatever you like.

And you are welcome to be as paranoid as your skunk makes you.

[boycotteverything]

well, ya gotta admit- it never stopped the guy from getting that position at the Quickie Mart. maybe the shit's under-rated after all.

[Chorlton]

I thought he was doing short order breakfasts ?
Or should that be, short-arm breakfasts ?

[Snow Crash]

...or maybe because you're a shallow pothead. there are worse things you could be. at least potheads are harmless.

Shush yourself BE... you don't know it, but you're talking to a genuine NWO philosopher-general there. Hardly harmless.

The shallow pothead pseudointellectual wankstain act is just a deceptive facade that good folks such as yourself fall for, so as not to take them too seriously.

When indie rules the world as an equal to his masters, you will RUE the fucking day you even considered mocking his stance. RUE, I tell thee.

[Alessandra]

while being forced to injest large quantities of Psilocybin and LSD.

[Snow Crash]

while being forced to injest large quantities of Psilocybin and LSD.

And the liquid mercury tabs, let us not forget.

[Alessandra]

...because we all deserve it

[Snow Crash]

Clearly, my dear, clearly.

[Alessandra]

:lol:

[century]

Psychiatrists/doctors are being misled about the possible side-effects of cannabis. The doctors depend on articles in journals and on conference lectures for independent and critical information on cannabis, much of what the medics read and hear is secretly written by the drug companies themselves. Psychiatrists are paid large sums of money to put their name to articles written by company employees, which then appear in medical journals, or are given as lectures at conferences sponsored by these companies.

[skunk]

People who smoke the highly potent form of cannabis known as skunk are almost seven times more likely to develop a psychotic illness than those who use the traditional strength drug, a new study shows for the first time.


There have been countless studies showing cannabis is linked to mental illnessses such as schizophrenia, so the article is factually incorrect from the start.

There have also been studies showing the exact opposite.

The findings of control studies in the US, Germany, the Netherlands and Sweden, which have sought to discover if young people with schizophrenia are more likely to have been cannabis users, have been summarised in The Lancet. This found that cannabis users were 40 per cent more likely than nonusers to suffer mental illness and found “a consistent association between cannabis use and psychotic symptoms, including disabling psychotic disorders”.

Such an association cannot prove cause and effect. It may simply mean that young people attracted to cannabis have a genetic predisposition to psychosis. Cannabis addiction, in this case, is simply a marker for a psychotic personality.

source (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article3672085.ece)

In reality, all they are able to prove is that people who are schizophrenic or suffer severe depression are more likely to use cannabis, not that cannabis causes depression or schizophrenia.

Assessing the impact of cannabis use on trends in diagnosed schizophrenia in the United Kingdom from 1996 to 2005. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19560900)

Increased cannabis (http://www.opposingviews.com/questions/should-medical-marijuana-be-federally-legalized) use by the public has not been followed by a proportional rise in diagnoses of schizophrenia or psychosis, according to the findings of a forthcoming study (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19560900) to be published in the journal Schizophrenia Research.

source (http://www.opposingviews.com/articles/news-study-says-marijuana-use-not-linked-to-schizophrenia)


The results are considered particularly worrying as skunk now accounts for around 80 per cent of the street market in cannabis in the United Kingdom.

It is quite unlikely that average potency is above 10% in the uk, even less likely 80% of cannabis is "skunk".


Scientists at the Institute of Psychiatry at King's College London made the discovery after studying admissions to hospital for psychotic illnesses such as schizophrenia, paranoia and serious depression.

Back to fox's point, how are these researchers going to demonstrate the patients wouldn't have been diagnosed with these disorders already?

[hp]

It's the war on drugs, part <enter number here>

[Lexion]

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa20/Lexion07/rambo.jpg

[century]

http://www.cineycine.com/ONE/Cine/Analisis/Hotshot2/hot%20shot%2002.jpg

[lala]

At the end of the day if anyone has underlying condition it is 'masked' by the use of street drugs or alcohol.
So imo its either in your body make up to start with, the drugs will just bring it to the surface quicker . . . but the drug doesn't create the problem, long term abuse will, but I'd say you'd have to have a good mix of drugs & alcohol, not just pot . . . :cool:

[hp]

I see you found the instruction video on how to make a bong using a coke can.

[century]

http://motivationalimage.com/old/wp-content/uploads/633704346844516710-marijuana.jpg

[Lexion]

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa20/Lexion07/steve-o-smoking-pot.jpg

[Lexion]

Hc-mgySrWnE

[century]

Wait a minute.............your not allowed to alter your consciousness:rifle:

no fun for ANYBODY!!!!!

http://bp3.blogger.com/_uuOo8x3WXWE/RyXs4QUz0DI/AAAAAAAAIJY/jhuTwb14hUc/s400/101.jpg

[skunk]

Wait a minute.............your not allowed to alter your consciousness

Yeah that's what religion is for!

Fucking junkies.

[lala]

I see you found the instruction video on how to make a bong using a coke can.


A tea pot make a cool quick pipe HP, a bit of tin foil where the lid goes a few holes, suck through the spout and bob's your uncle . . . :D

[Lexion]

bob's your uncle . . . :D

:lol:

[hp]

If we could turn the world's problems into a mountain of pot and no papers or pipes, the stoners would have all our problems solved in an hour or two.

[skunk]

The DEA's Administrative Law Judge, Francis Young concluded:

"In strict medical terms marijuana is far safer than many foods we commonly consume. For example, eating 10 raw potatoes can result in a toxic response. By comparison, it is physically impossible to eat enough marijuana to induce death. Marijuana in its natural form is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man. By any measure of rational analysis marijuana can be safely used within the supervised routine of medical care."


Source:
US Department of Justice, Drug Enforcement Agency, "In the Matter of Marijuana Rescheduling Petition," (http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:4XFEu92vHzsJ:www.drugsense.org/html/modules.php%3Fname%3DDownloads%26d_op%3Dgetit%26li d%3D53+In+the+Matter+of+Marijuana+Rescheduling+Pet ition+francis+young&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESjcAC7TRy0uFT46O22qKHdxAkb-yn_9nZxIOQcVKMhWyUS99XKvAD0KF86-yoTUk7z9_xWzaGvFKRguFPrYz_3rC6eW6w_nrmf8S62DyU_u_I SRrxBpr6MFhBpOJ_1c6Bb_c_a8&sig=AHIEtbSbxp1h25Sslt0nkcXcfGgmivj6OQ) [Docket #86-22], September 6, 1988, p. 57.

Judge Young's entire ruling (http://www.druglibrary.org/olsen/medical/young/young.html)

Rescheduling Cannabis
Under the U.S. Controlled Substances Act Selected Bibliography, Time Line, and Reference Materials (http://www.drugscience.org/lib/bib_tl.html)

[skunk]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Rvc5CoNzIc4/So2qdQVpXzI/AAAAAAAAADQ/W2Z0OYRWFHM/s400/legalize-cannabis.jpg

[lala]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Rvc5CoNzIc4/So2qdQVpXzI/AAAAAAAAADQ/W2Z0OYRWFHM/s400/legalize-cannabis.jpg


Say it all imo :D

[Eyeforalie]

I see that the OP was based off the same deductive reasoning techniques used in most UFO research. Nice job at attempting to learn...Ever.

[pack3tg0st]

the original research paper (abstract... full results are in a link at the bottom of the abstract): http://bjp.rcpsych.org/cgi/content/abstract/195/6/488

And the Flaw in the research:
To investigate whether people with a first episode of psychosis were particularly likely to use high-potency cannabis.They did it backwards...

I suppose they should take a pool of pot heads... and monitor them over a few years to see if any of them go psycho... Not check psycho's for pot use...

Shit... Wonder how many of the crazy people drink coffee.

[Eyeforalie]

Bingo.

[Chorlton]

At the end of the day if anyone has underlying condition it is 'masked' by the use of street drugs or alcohol.
So imo its either in your body make up to start with, the drugs will just bring it to the surface quicker . . . but the drug doesn't create the problem, long term abuse will, but I'd say you'd have to have a good mix of drugs & alcohol, not just pot . . . :cool:

Wrong

[Chorlton]

The DEA's Administrative Law Judge, Francis Young concluded:


I call that, 'grasping at straws' particularly when my OP was about skunk and not simple Marihuana. There is an amazing difference in the 2.
1 is a beneficial herb
The other is dangerous.

Then again, dopeheads will grab at anything to support the ideals of their Habits.

[skunk]

Did you read my post with the links and other quotes as well as pack's post above?

[skunk]

the original research paper (abstract... full results are in a link at the bottom of the abstract): http://bjp.rcpsych.org/cgi/content/abstract/195/6/488

And the Flaw in the research: They did it backwards...

I suppose they should take a pool of pot heads... and monitor them over a few years to see if any of them go psycho... Not check psycho's for pot use...


Yeah that's what I was saying in a previous post. You hit the nail on the head.

Back asswards.

[skunk]

I see that the OP was based off the same deductive reasoning techniques used in most UFO research. Nice job at attempting to learn...Ever.

Don't you know skunk is a deadly version of cannabis, turning kids crazy.

Sounds a bit like reefer madness doesn't it?

[Eyeforalie]

SKUNK IS NO DIFFERENT FROM MEDICINAL CANNABIS!!!

READ THE FUCKING ARTICLES YOU ARROGANT FAGGOT.

Please post where it was PROVEN different.

[boycotteverything]

reefer madness made some sense- which is why, in the 60's, it became a classic for any dope smoker with even a modicum of self deprecation. that's obviously been lost on 'serious' dopers like you who even names himself after the shit. but humor never did seem to be your strong suit.

[skunk]

SKUNK IS NO DIFFERENT FROM MEDICINAL CANNABIS!!!

READ THE FUCKING ARTICLES YOU ARROGANT FAGGOT.

Please post where it was PROVEN different.

Did you hear the woosh sound too?

[skunk]

Lol be don't talk to me about having no sense of humor. You're a running joke yourself.

What's not to laugh at?

[boycotteverything]

You're a running joke yourself.i try

[Eyeforalie]

Did you hear the woosh sound too?

I felt it from 4000 miles away.

[Alessandra]

Me and my friend usually get a good laugh at reefer madness

[boycotteverything]

this what reefer did to me. taos 1975

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd40/hibits/boratandme.jpg?t=1259772653

[Lexion]

Holy shit !!!

You're Mexican ?

(that you on the right ?)

[skunk]

Wow you look like a human being. Good on ya.

[Alessandra]

this what reefer did to me. taos 1975

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd40/hibits/boratandme.jpg?t=1259772653

that wasnt the weed that did it, it was being in a shithole called New Mexico

[boycotteverything]

ah shit. there's some good folks there too

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/gir_the_hobbit/DSC00876.jpg

[Alessandra]

haha :serenade: you flatter me, BE.

edit to also say: I wasn't born here.

[boycotteverything]

well- i gotta tell ya, it's still my favorite state in the Union.

[Alessandra]

but why?

[boycotteverything]

oh! well because it sucks less than the rest of em?

[Alessandra]

you'd be surprised.

[boycotteverything]

but babes- i've been to all of em.

[Alessandra]

lol.

[boycotteverything]

which is the worst state you've ever been to? i'd vote for indiana with tennessee a close second.

[Alessandra]

well
Ive been to a few. The worst by far might be this one, or CA (southern)

[boycotteverything]

yeah. pretty bad. but the weather is nice. hahahah

[skunk]

I nominate the northern plains states as one of the worst places to live in the country.

[boycotteverything]

norther plains states are good but the best i'd say are NM, Colo and Idaho. Wyoming has it's appeal too but it so fucking windy you get blown over taking a piss on the side of the highway.

[Chorlton]

norther plains states are good but the best i'd say are NM, Colo and Idaho. Wyoming has it's appeal too but it so fucking windy you get blown over taking a piss on the side of the highway.

Thats disgusting, and illegal.
Then again with a cock as small as your's I suppose it dont get noticed much !

[boycotteverything]

hey in wyoming that's where you piss. next year they may get indoor plumbing.

[Alessandra]

them and Montana

[boycotteverything]

montana is excellent. colder 'n a welldigger's ass, however.

[boycotteverything]

over all i'd say the more distance you can put between yourself and mississippi the better off you are.

[skunk]

I call that, 'grasping at straws' particularly when my OP was about skunk and not simple Marihuana. There is an amazing difference in the 2.
1 is a beneficial herb
The other is dangerous.

I was grasping truth, apparently you let it slip between your fingers.

'Skunk' might be a particular potent version of 'marijuana', but both words are referring to the cannabis plant. They are one and the same.


Then again, dopeheads will grab at anything to support the ideals of their Habits.

People who have bought "killer skunk" propaganda (or ignorant of the cannabis plant in general) think [skunk] is somehow different than other strains of cannabis.

[century]

Dont knock it till u tried it

[boycotteverything]

just a simple question- why are you so invested in promoting dope? what's so important? you've probably made 4000 posts on this issue. we all know by now that you smoke a lot of it and love it dearly. if that's all there is then wrap it up and go on about your business. but please stop all this endless promotion. let's just sum it up: dope is fun. dope is harmless. it's better for you than liquor. everything from lounge chairs to rocketships should be made of hemp.... we get it. ok?

[skunk]

Right after you shut the fuck up with your ufology bullcrap.

[boycotteverything]

you equate the importance of the two? dope is somehow as critical to human advancement as the study of extraterrestrial life? Wavy Gravy is somehow as important as Drake? well, ok mr. spaceman...

[Lexion]

Wavy Gravy was a pretty cool guy.

Is he still alive ?

[skunk]

The study of hoaxes is more important than a planet-saving plant?

[Chorlton]

The study of hoaxes is more important than a planet-saving plant?

Planet saving my fat arse.

You keep promoting the shit and Ill keep promoting Grass but warning about UK Skunk and demanding arrests and serious penalties for it.
Its dangerous. It can really fuck your brain up.

And nothing you can say will change my mind on that as you havent the faintest idea of the stuff being sold in the UK no matter how much you rave on about it.

[boycotteverything]

skunk- you're way beyond your depth here. smoke your dope and save the planet. we humbly demure.

[pack3tg0st]

UFOlogy isn't studying extraterrestrial life...

UFOlogy is studying UFO's... and making wild jumps to conclusions... then calling it a science after the fact...

If we were studying alien life already, than UFOlogy wouldn't exist... as UFO's and E.T.'s would be a given, and not subject to wild speculation and fantasy...

[skunk]

Jesus christ chorlton. I don't smoke skunk I smoke grass. Happy?

[skunk]

skunk- you're way beyond your depth here. smoke your dope and save the planet. we humbly demure.

Ok I'm going to leave amkon now because you said so.

See y'all later.

I quit.

[Chorlton]

Jesus christ chorlton. I don't smoke skunk I smoke grass. Happy?

You stated you smoked skunk and stated it was harmless.

[boycotteverything]

Wavy Gravy was a pretty cool guy.

Is he still alive ?haven't seen hughie in years but i'm pretty sure he's tough to kill. good guy, he.

[skunk]

You're telling me I don't know what the shit sold on the streets of the UK is like.

I'm telling you [chorlton] that you don't know what the shit we smoke here is like.

You think there's killer skunk in the uk, fine.

I'm telling you there's no such thing as killer skunk here in the US.

[boycotteverything]

Ok I'm going to leave amkon now because you said so.

See y'all later.

I quit. you won't be missed.

[pack3tg0st]

maybe its the brits who can't handle their pot?

[boycotteverything]

UFOlogy isn't studying extraterrestrial life...

UFOlogy is studying UFO's... and making wild jumps to conclusions... then calling it a science after the fact...

If we were studying alien life already, than UFOlogy wouldn't exist... as UFO's and E.T.'s would be a given, and not subject to wild speculation and fantasy...
John Mack, Allen Hynek, Stan Friedman... and I- all beg to differ.

[skunk]

Stanley Friedman? Are you fucking kidding me?

[pack3tg0st]

So did the Heaven's Gate people I imagine.

[century]

Washington's concern about India Hemp is illustrated in these excerpts from letters to his overseer Pearce:

"Let particular care be taken of the India Hempseed, and as much good ground allotted for its reception next year as is competent to Sow..." [5 Nov. 1796].

Modern day translation:

"Don't mess up my Indica crop, and plant as many Indicas as you can fit on my property without over crowding."


GW loved his HASH,.......... my man

[boycotteverything]

I don't know of any Stanley Friedman. But if you relevant information about him I'm all ears.

[Chorlton]

You're telling me I don't know what the shit sold on the streets of the UK is like.
You dont


I'm telling you [chorlton] that you don't know what the shit we smoke here is like.
Whatever makes you think that ?


You think there's killer skunk in the uk, fine.

Oh no dont start that. I NEVER said anything about Killer skunk. That was the cocksucker Oblivion and you.
I have stated that the stuff that some Vietnamese are growing is stronger and has been proved to be stronger and mpre addictive than the stuff most people know as Skunk. Fortunatley as I was informed last week, the 2 biggest suppliers have been busted so I suspect that, for a short time at least there wont be a lot of it about


I'm telling you there's no such thing as killer skunk here in the US.
I agree, there is no such thing as killer skunk, you came up with that fuckwitted idea. But there most certainly IS a form of skunk that was ad is sold on the streets in the UK that IS stronger than the stuff in the UK.

Why is it that you yanks always think you are the first at everything and if it dont exist in the US it cant exist anywhere?

[Lexion]

Stanton

[skunk]

Yeah that guy Lex, he's a fucking loon.

[Chorlton]

maybe its the brits who can't handle their pot?

Maybe its the Yanks who simply cant accept reality ?

[century]

mpre addictive



Ya pots addictive :rolleyes:

[skunk]

Are you saying that high potency cannabis is deadly?

This deserves a chorlton news break.


POM DISCOVERS NEW STRAIN OF DEADLY CANNABIS CALLED KILLER SKUNK

[boycotteverything]

Ok I'm going to leave amkon now because you said so.

See y'all later.

I quit. a promise or a tease?

[Chorlton]

Are you saying that high potency cannabis is deadly?

This deserves a chorlton news break.


You see there you go againg.
You really are out of your brain.
You are the only fuckwit saying that, not me
Your stupidity is alarming if it werent so funny

[boycotteverything]

Are you saying that high potency cannabis is deadly?

This deserves a chorlton news break.


POM DISCOVERS NEW STRAIN OF DEADLY CANNABIS CALLED KILLER SKUNKBE News is the official news source here. You fail. But it was expected.. And what the hell is a Pom?

[skunk]

I have stated that the stuff that some Vietnamese are growing is stronger and has been proved to be stronger and mpre addictive than the stuff most people know as Skunk.

This skunk you are talking about is addictive, but not deadly. How is it harmful?

Do the users break out in hives? Do they go insane?

What are the symptoms?

[Chorlton]

BE News is the official news source here. You fail. But it was expected.. And what the hell is a Pom?

Just a junkie trying and failing to sound cool.
I bet he wears a baseball cap on sideways too?

[boycotteverything]

You really are out of your brain...assuming this asshat actually has a brain...

[Chorlton]

This skunk you are talking about is addictive, but not deadly. How is it harmful?

Do the users break out in hives? Do they go insane?

What are the symptoms?

Look sunshine youve made up your mind and no explanation is going to change it. Ive explained previously how I know. I'm not explaining again for your frivolity.

[century]

Cannabis extract medicines were produced by Eli Lilly, Parke-Davis, Tildens, Brothers Smith (Smith Brothers), Squibb and many other American and European companies and apothecaries. During all this time there was not one reported death from cannabis extract medicines, and virtually no abuse or mental disorders reported, except for first-time or novice-users occasionally becoming disoriented or overly introverted.

[Chorlton]

...assuming this asshat actually has a brain...
I'm seriously considerng that his is now addled.

[century]

Benjamin Franklin started one of America’s first paper mills with cannabis. This allowed America to have a free colonial press without having to beg or justify the need for paper and books from England.

Brits never did like pot did they

[Chorlton]

Cannabis extract medicines were

Fuck off you braindead prick. You havent the faintes idea what Ive been talking about so dont pretend to play with the big kids untill your balls drop

[century]

In addition, various marijuana and hashish extracts were the first, second or third most-prescribed medicines in the United States from 1842 until the 1890s. Its medicinal use continued legally through the 1930s for humans and figured even more prominently in American and world veterinary medicines during this time.






Right around the time the Fed took over

[boycotteverything]

so dont pretend to play with the big kids untill your balls drop hahahahahahaha... holy shit! that says it all!

[Chorlton]

The kids a prick. Sad to say, but true.

[century]

In 1619, America’s first marijuana law was enacted at Jamestown Colony, Virginia, “ordering” all farmers to “make tryal of “(grow) Indian hempseed. More mandatory (must-grow) hemp cultivation laws were enacted in Massachusetts in 1631, in Connecticut in 1632 and in the Chesapeake Colonies into the mid-1700s.

[Lexion]

Isn't the hemp plant totally
different from the stuff you
smoke ?

[Lexion]

Have you ever passed by a store window that displayed hemp purses, clothing, or other products for sale? Many people immediately think of marijuana when they see hemp products, and while the word "hemp" frequently pops up in marijuana-related debates, hemp and marijuana are not the same thing. One of the most important differences is that marijuana can get a person high and hemp cannot. Let's look at some of their other characteristics:

Source (http://www.houseparent.net/information/Hemp.htm)

[Chorlton]

Isn't the hemp plant totally
different from the stuff you
smoke ?

Yep lex. There was a field of it about a mile from where I live last year. theres practically zero THC in it and it was used for rope.

[century]

*The US Drug Enforcement Agency classifies all C. sativa varieties as "marijuana."

Same shit grown different

[boycotteverything]

that very rope hanged the amkonskunk. RIP

[Lexion]

How they classify it is one thing.

But bringing hemp into the discussion
is a moot point.

[Chorlton]

How they classify it is one thing.

But bringing hemp into the discussion
is a moot point.

If you read what the Dickless Dolt posted you'll see he failed to even understand what was being discussed in the first place.

[boycotteverything]

How they classify it is one thing.

But bringing hemp into the discussion
is a moot point.not so moot fro the apologists. for them- any red herring will do.

[Chorlton]

I have to say I did a double take when I saw the field of Hemp growing near me.

[skunk]

Cannabis is the same as hemp.

The plant is grown for different purposes, they are all the same species though.

Some cannabis is grown for its seed, some for its fiber, and some for its THC potency.


Cannabis (Cán-na-bis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syllable_stress_of_Botanical_Latin)) is a genus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genus) of flowering plants (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flowering_plant) that includes three putative species, Cannabis sativa L.,[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis#cite_note-grin-0) Cannabis indica Lam.,[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis#cite_note-grin-0) and Cannabis ruderalis Janisch. These three taxa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxa) are indigenous (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_%28ecology%29) to Central Asia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Asia), and South Asia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Asia).[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis#cite_note-1) Cannabis has long been used for fibre (hemp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemp)), for medicinal purposes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_cannabis), and as a recreational drug (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis#Recreational_use). Industrial hemp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemp) products are made from Cannabis plants selected to produce an abundance of fiber and minimal levels of THC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/THC) (Δ9- tetrahydrocannabinol), a psychoactive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoactive) molecule that produces the "high" associated with marijuana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_%28drug%29). The psychoactive product consists of dried flowers and leaves of plants selected to produce high levels of THC. Various extracts including hashish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hashish) and hash oil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hash_oil) are also produced from the plant.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis#cite_note-erowid-2)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b3/Cannab2_new.png

[boycotteverything]

reprieve time. our little dude with the high testes never did reply to this-

just a simple question- why are you so invested in promoting dope? what's so important? you've probably made 4000 posts on this issue. we all know by now that you smoke a lot of it and love it dearly. if that's all there is then wrap it up and go on about your business. but please stop all this endless promotion. let's just sum it up: dope is fun. dope is harmless. it's better for you than liquor. everything from lounge chairs to rocketships should be made of hemp.... we get it. ok?

[boycotteverything]

4000 posts!

[skunk]

The genus Cannabis was formerly placed in the Nettle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nettle) (Urticaceae (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urticaceae)) or Mulberry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulberry) (Moraceae (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moraceae)) family, but is now considered along with hops (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hop_%28plant%29) (Humulus sp.) to belong to the Hemp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemp) family (Cannabaceae (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabaceae)).[17] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis#cite_note-schultes2001a-16) Recent phylogenetic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phylogenetic) studies based on cpDNA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CpDNA) restriction site (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restriction_site) analysis and gene sequencing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_sequencing) strongly suggest that the Cannabaceae arose from within the Celtidaceae (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtidaceae) clade (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clade), and that the two families should be merged to form a single monophyletic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monophyletic) group.[18] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis#cite_note-song2001-17)[19] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis#cite_note-sytsma2002-18)
Various types of Cannabis have been described, and classified as species (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species), subspecies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subspecies), or varieties (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variety_%28biology%29):[20] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis#cite_note-small1975b-19)


plants cultivated for fiber and seed production, described as low-intoxicant, non-drug, or fiber types
plants cultivated for drug production, described as high-intoxicant or drug types
escaped or wild forms of either of the above types.

[boycotteverything]

dueling douchebags! i love it!

[boycotteverything]

the silence is defining.


reprieve time. our little dude with the high testes never did reply to this-

just a simple question- why are you so invested in promoting dope? what's so important? you've probably made 4000 posts on this issue. we all know by now that you smoke a lot of it and love it dearly. if that's all there is then wrap it up and go on about your business. but please stop all this endless promotion. let's just sum it up: dope is fun. dope is harmless. it's better for you than liquor. everything from lounge chairs to rocketships should be made of hemp.... we get it. ok?

[century]

tis, where's chorlton when u need him

[Chorlton]

dueling douchebags! i love it!

Duelling Dickless Dolts deliberatley distributing drivel

[skunk]

How do you kill a troll? Ignore it.


In 1619, America’s first marijuana law was enacted at Jamestown Colony, Virginia, “ordering” all farmers to “make tryal of “(grow) Indian hempseed. More mandatory (must-grow) hemp cultivation laws were enacted in Massachusetts in 1631, in Connecticut in 1632 and in the Chesapeake Colonies into the mid-1700s.

Even in England, the much-sought-after prize of full British citizenship was bestowed by a decree of the crown on foreigners who would grow cannabis, and fines were often levied against those who refused.

Cannabis hemp was legal tender (money) in most of the Americas from 1631 until the early 1800s. Why? To encourage American farmers to grow more.1

You could pay your taxes with cannabis hemp throughout America for over 200 years.2

You could even be jailed in America for not growing cannabis during several periods of shortage, e.g., in Virginia between 1763 and 1767.

(Herndon, G.M., Hemp in Colonial Virginia, 1963; The Chesapeake Colonies, 1954; L.A. Times, August 12, 1981; et al.)

Emperor wears no clothes (http://www.jackherer.com/chapter01.html)

[Chorlton]

Reduced to quoting irrelevant crap now Skunk?
You really should lay off the stuff, its rotting your brain quite demonstrably

[skunk]

The United States Census of 1850 counted 8,327 hemp “plantations”* (minimum 2,000-acre farms) growing cannabis hemp for cloth, canvas and even the cordage used for baling cotton. Most of these plantations were located in the South or in the Border States, primarily because of the cheap slave labor available prior to 1865 for the labor-intensive hemp industry.

(U.S. Census, 1850; Allen, James Lane, The Reign of Law, A Tale of the Kentucky Hemp Fields, MacMillan Co., NY, 1900; Roffman, Roger. Ph.D., Marijuana as Medicine, Mendrone Books, WA, 1982.)

*This figure does not include the tens of thousands of smaller farms growing cannabis, nor the hundreds of thousands if not millions of family hemp patches in America; nor does it take into account that well into this century 80% of America’s hemp consumption for 200 years still had to be imported from Russia, Hungary, Czechoslovakia and Poland, etc..

Benjamin Franklin started one of America’s first paper mills with cannabis. This allowed America to have a free colonial press without having to beg or justify the need for paper and books from England.

In addition, various marijuana and hashish extracts were the first, second or third most-prescribed medicines in the United States from 1842 until the 1890s. Its medicinal use continued legally through the 1930s for humans and figured even more prominently in American and world veterinary medicines during this time.

Cannabis extract medicines were produced by Eli Lilly, Parke-Davis, Tildens, Brothers Smith (Smith Brothers), Squibb and many other American and European companies and apothecaries. During all this time there was not one reported death from cannabis extract medicines, and virtually no abuse or mental disorders reported, except for first-time or novice-users occasionally becoming disoriented or overly introverted.

(Mikuriya, Tod, M.D., Marijuana Medical Papers, Medi-Comp Press, CA, 1973; Cohen, Sidney & Stillman, Richard, Therapeutic Potential of Marijuana, Plenum Press, NY, 1976.)

[Chorlton]

I hereby enroll Skunk as the second member of the Dickless Dolts club.

[boycotteverything]

well- no-one is reading that horseshit anyway.

[skunk]

No one's asking you to read it.

For those with eyes.

[Chorlton]

Toilet paper is a soft paper product (tissue paper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tissue_paper)) used to maintain personal hygiene (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_hygiene) after human defecation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defecation) or urination (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urination). It can also be used for other purposes such as absorbing spillages and blood (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood). It differs in composition somewhat from facial tissue (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facial_tissue), and is designed to decompose in septic tanks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septic_tank), whereas some other bathroom and facial tissues do not. Most septic tank manufacturers advise against using paper products that are non-septic tank safe. Different names and slang terms are used for toilet paper in countries around the world, including "loo roll/paper," "toilet roll," "dunny (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunny) roll/paper," "bathroom/toilet tissue," "TP" or just "tissue."Toilet paper can be one, two, three, even more -ply, meaning that it's either a single sheet or two, three sheets placed back-to-back to make it builder, softer, stronger and more absorbent. Color, scents, and embossing may also be added, but fragrances sometimes cause problems for consumers who are allergic to perfumes. The biggest difference between toilet papers is the distinction between virgin paper products, which are formed directly from chipped wood, and those made from recycled paper. Most toilet paper, however, whether virgin or recycled, is wrapped around recycled cardboard cylinders.

[century]

well- no-one is reading that horseshit anyway.



Thats probably why Chorlton and Lex think Hemp and Skunk are two different plants

[Chorlton]

A sanitary towel, sanitary pad, sanitary napkin, Maxi pad (U.S. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States)), menstrual pad, or pad is an absorbent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absorption_%28chemistry%29) item worn by a woman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woman) while she is menstruating (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menstruation), recovering from vaginal surgery (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaginoplasty), for lochia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lochia) (post birth bleeding), abortion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion), or any other situation where it is necessary to absorb the flow of menses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menses) from a woman's vagina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagina).
These pads are not to be confused with incontinence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urinary_incontinence) pads, which are worn by skunk or century who have urinary incontinence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urinary_incontinence) problems and experience stress incontinence. An incontinence pad is a similar item to a menstrual pad, perhaps with a high absorbency. Menstrual pads may be used by some people for this purpose.

[skunk]

For the pseudo hippies among us:



A Plan to Save Our Forests

Some cannabis plant strains regularly reach tree-like heights of 20 feet or more in one growing season. The new paper process used hemp “hurds”, 77% of the hemp stalk’s weight, which was then a wasted byproduct of the fiber stripping process.

In 1916, USDA Bulletin No. 404 reported that one acre of cannabis hemp, in annual rotation over a 20-year period, would produce as much pulp for paper as 4.1 acres of trees being cut down over the same 20-year period. This process would use only 1/7 to 1/4 as much polluting sulfur-based acid chemicals to break down the glue-like lignin that binds the fibers of the pulp, or even none at all using soda ash. All this lignin must be broken down to make pulp. Hemp pulp is only 4-10% lignin, while trees are 18-30% lignin. The problem of dioxin contamination of rivers is avoided in the hemp papermaking process, which does not need to use chlorine bleach (as the wood pulp papermaking process requires), but instead substitutes safer hydrogen peroxide in the bleaching process.

Thus, hemp provides four times as much pulp with at least four to seven times less pollution.

As we have seen, this hemp pulp-paper potential depended on the invention and the engineering of new machines for stripping the hemp by modern technology. This would also lower demand for lumber and reduce the cost of housing, while at the same time helping re-oxygenate the planet.1

As an example: If the new (1916) hemp pulp paper process were in use legally today, it would soon replace about 70 percent of all wood pulp paper; including computer printout paper, corrugated boxes and paper bags.

Pulp paper made from 60-100 percent hemp hurds is stronger and more flexible than paper made from wood pulp. Making paper from wood pulp damages the environment. Hemp papermaking does not.

(Dewey & Merrill, Bulletin No. 404, U.S.D.A., 1916; New Scientist, 1980; Kimberly Clark production from its giant French hemp-fiber paper subsidiary De Mauduit, 1937 through 1984.)


Conservation & Source Reduction


Reduction of the source of pollution, usually from manufacturing with petrochemicals or their derivatives, is a cost-cutting waste control method often called for by environmentalists.

Whether the source of pollution is CFCs (chlorofluorocarbons) from refrigeration, spray cans, computers, tritium and plutonium produced for military uses, or the sulfuric acids used by papermakers, the goal is reducing the source of pollution.

In the supermarket when you are asked to choose paper or plastic for your bags, you are faced with an environmental dilemma: paper from trees that were cut, or plastic bags made from fossil fuel and chemicals. With a third choice available - hemp hurd paper - one could choose a biodegradable, durable paper from an annually renewal source - the cannabis hemp plant.

The environmental advantages of harvesting hemp annually - leaving the trees in the ground! - for papermaking, and for replacing fossil fuels as an energy source, have become crucial for the source reduction of pollution.

[century]

menstruation- when Chorlton speaks

[skunk]

“Did Anyone Consult the AMA?”

However, even within his controlled Committee hearings, many expert witnesses spoke out against the passage of these unusual tax laws.

Dr. William C. Woodward, for instance, who was both a physician and an attorney for the American Medical Association, testified on behalf of the AMA.

He said, in effect, the entire fabric of federal testimony was tabloid sensationalism! No real testimony had been heard! This law, passed in ignorance, could possibly deny the world a potential medicine, especially now that the medical world was just beginning to find which ingredients in cannabis were active.

Woodward told the committee that the only reason the AMA hadn’t come out against the marijuana tax law sooner was that marijuana had been described in the press for 20 years as “killer weed from Mexico.”

The AMA doctors had just realized “two days before” these spring 1937 hearings, that the plant Congress intended to outlaw was known medically as cannabis, the benign substance used in America with perfect safety in scores of illnesses for over one hundred years.

“We cannot understand yet, Mr. Chairman,” Woodward protested, “why this bill should have been prepared in secret for two years without any intimation, even to the profession, that it was being prepared.” He and the AMA* were quickly denounced by Anslinger and the entire congressional committee, and curtly excused.3

* The AMA and the Roosevelt Administration were strong antagonists in 1937.

When the Marijuana Tax Act bill came up for oral report, discussion, and vote on the floor of Congress, only one pertinent question was asked from the floor: “Did anyone consult with the AMA and get their opinion?” Representative Vinson, answering for the Ways and Means Committee replied, “Yes, we have. A Dr. Wharton [mistaken pronunciation of Woodward?] and [the AMA] are in complete agreement!”

With this memorable lie, the bill passed, and became law in December, 1937. Federal and state police forces were created, which have incarcerated hundreds of thousands of Americans, adding up to more than 16 million wasted years in jails and prisons - even contributing to their deaths - all for the sake of poisonous, polluting industries, prison guards unions and to reinforce some white politicians’ policies of racial hatred.

(Mikuriya, Tod, M.D., Marijuana Medical Papers, 1972; Sloman, Larry, Reefer Madness, Grove Press, 1979; Lindesmith, Alfred, The Addict and the Law, Indiana U. Press; Bonnie & Whitebread; The Marijuana Conviction, U. of VA Press; U.S. Cong. Records; et al.)

[Chorlton]

In medicine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicine), diarrhea (from the Greek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek_language), "diarrhoia" meaning "a flowing through"[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diarrhea#cite_note-0)), also spelled diarrhoea (see spelling differences (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelling_differences#Simplification_of_ae_.28.C3.A 6.29_and_oe_.28.C5.93.29)), is the condition of having frequent loose or liquid bowel movements (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowel_movement). Acute (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acute_%28medical%29) diarrhea is a common cause of death in developing countries (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developing_country) and the second most common cause of infant deaths (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infant_mortality) worldwide. The loss of fluids (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluids) through diarrhea can cause severe dehydration (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehydration) which is one cause of death in diarrhea sufferers. A study with partial results released in October 2009 suggests diarrhea is now estimated to cause 3 times more deaths than previously thought, at 1.1 million annually for people aged 5 and over, up from 300,000 assumed in a 2002 study.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diarrhea#cite_note-1) According to UNICEF (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNICEF), diarrhea kills some 1.5 million children under the age of 5 annually.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diarrhea#cite_note-mbp-2) Also, according to WHO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WHO)oral rehydration salts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_rehydration_salts) in the past 25 years.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diarrhea#cite_note-mbp-2) statistics, some 50 million children have been saved thanks to the low cost treatment of

[hp]

Think that font size is alrge enough? He who talks the loudest isn't always right.

[Chorlton]

Im happy with it. And it was the Dickless Dolts who started it, I'm just following their lead.

[boycotteverything]

i'll go with the sequoias instead of hemp. fuck you and your 20 foot hemps. actually- fuck amkonskunk all together. the guy's a fucking junkie know-nothing prick. how can it be that this douche has power here to fuck with member's signatures and otherwise harass members as he see fit? a child with a little power? seems so. that the other mods here continue to protect this piece of shit is a shame on the forum. he's a petulant dick and a junkie, to boot. protection of family is a sohai trick. amkon needs to rise above its roots.

[skunk]

I didn't do shit to your signature douche bag.

[lala]

Come on kids kiss and make up . . . or you'll be sent to your room and no computer for a whole day . . . . :D

[boycotteverything]

no making up, lala. this is a matter of principle.

[Chorlton]

Phlegm (pronounced /ˈflɛm/ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_English)) is a sticky fluid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluid) secreted by the mucous membranes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mucous_membrane) of humans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humans) and other animals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animals). Its definition is limited to the mucus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mucus) produced by the respiratory system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respiratory_system), excluding that from the nasal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nose) passages, and particularly that which is expelled by coughing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cough) (sputum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputum)). Its composition varies, depending on climate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate), genetics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetics), and state of the immune system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immune_system), but basically is a water-based gel consisting of glycoproteins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycoproteins), immunoglobulins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immunoglobulins), lipids (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipids), etc. Phlegm may be of several different colors.

[skunk]

no making up, lala. this is a matter of principle.

Then leave if you don't like it.

[boycotteverything]

fuck you, boy. your time to leave.

[skunk]

Who you calling boy?

[boycotteverything]

you. you're even less than a boy. you're a child.

[Chorlton]

Who you calling boy?

The person who invents things that people say.

[skunk]

you. you're even less than a boy. you're a child.

Adulthood is overrated.

[Chorlton]

Adulthood is overrated.
But truthfullness isnt.

[boycotteverything]

it certainly is. you've pretended to be one and you failed.

[skunk]

Ditto.

[skunk]

But truthfullness isnt.

Who's lying?

[Chorlton]

You

[skunk]

About?

[boycotteverything]

your very existence is a lie.

[hp]

If they would give the go ahead to grow hemp, smaokable or not, I would go with it. Gov decisions are made based on the good of corporate and elite, not the common man. How long before the average guy wakes up and says enough.

We're at the point that all current political office holders need replacing. The political system is a damn joke.

[Chorlton]

About?
You stated *I* said 'Killer Skunk'

I said NO such thing it was you and Oblivion.

You lied.

[skunk]

HP, would you plant a crop if you were allowed to without fear of penalty?

[Chorlton]

If they would give the go ahead to grow hemp, smaokable or not, I would go with it. Gov decisions are made based on the good of corporate and elite, not the common man. How long before the average guy wakes up and says enough.

We're at the point that all current political office holders need replacing. The political system is a damn joke.

Its grown in the UK and certain ingredients are extracted for medicinal purposes but not the THC

[skunk]

You stated *I* said 'Killer Skunk'

I said NO such thing it was you and Oblivion.

You lied.

The propaganda in your country mentions killer skunk. Read your materials.

[hp]

Sure, I don't have a huge amount of land but I would plant 5 or 10 acres minimum. I could always add a few more.

[boycotteverything]

ultimately the killer skunk is you.

[Chorlton]

The propaganda in your country mentions killer skunk. Read your materials.

Dont try and wriggle out if it.
YOU accused ME of saying it. I never did.
You tried to create a fantasy of me calling it Killer Skunk to reinforce your fallacies, and ridicule me when I never called it as such.

It was a childish ploy that other children then picked up and ran with, just like you hoped it would.

Maybe I should start posting insinuations that you are a paedophile and we'll see how that runs?

[skunk]

If you can't have a bit of fun you're not meant for this place chorlton.

[hp]

Why should a decent cash crop be withheld from ag. Guess the small guy making a living is not hat america is about despite the talk.

[Chorlton]

If you can't have a bit of fun you're not meant for this place chorlton.

So you think that telling lies is fun?
If so you are a damned sight thicker than I took you for, paedo

[boycotteverything]

If you can't have a bit of fun you're not meant for this place chorlton.
lies re not fun. well- maybe except for a douche like you.

[Chorlton]

Why should a decent cash crop be withheld from ag. Guess the small guy making a living is not hat america is about despite the talk.

Shit theres even several farmers in the UK growing Opium Poppies.

[skunk]

So you think that telling lies is fun?
If so you are a damned sight thicker than I took you for, paedo

I'm not lying about anything. Its clear you think skunk is dangerous. You may not have come out directly and called it killer, but you might as well have. Your intention was the same.

[Chorlton]

I'm not lying about anything. Its clear you think skunk is dangerous.

Yes I think its dangerous but Ive never ever said it was a Killer. NOR HAVE I EVER INTIMATED IT WAS
It was YOU and Oblivion that coined that phrase.
You then enlarged upon the idea and stated that *I* called it *killer skunk*
You told that lie to enhance what you were saying and ridicule me.
It was a total, outright lie.

If you think telling lies is fun then you wont mind me portraying you as a a kiddie fiddling paedophile? Thats fun, isnt it?

[lala]

Killer Skunk is what the dealers call it for fuck sake . . . cos it the strongest now move along and stop your dam bitching . . .
We have hemp crops being grow here to, under the goverment watch full eyes . . .

[boycotteverything]

i certainly wouldn't think that pedophilia is beyond the guy.

[skunk]

i certainly wouldn't think that pedophilia is beyond the guy.

Says the NAMBLA supporter.

[boycotteverything]

hhahaha Nambla? that's your thing.

[skunk]

I remember that thread jasn started about nambla boycott.

Shall I request corroboration?

[Chorlton]

So answer the question Mr Kiddie Fiddler Skunk
Is it OK to post lies about people for 'Fun'

[boycotteverything]

it seems so. this prick is obviously a child diddling freak.

[Chorlton]

Posting lies to ridicules someone or to enhance ones bullshit is despicable

But if he thinks its OK I'll run with it.

[skunk]

Are you fucking kidding me? I'm lying because I said you believed in killer skunk. I was fucking with you.

What an idiot.

[Chorlton]

Are you fucking kidding me? I'm lying because I said you believed in killer skunk. I was fucking with you.

What an idiot.

No sorry.
You didnt say I 'believed' in Killer Skunk. I never said or intimated anything of the sort, neither did I come close to it.
Dont try and wriggle out of what you said.
You lied. several times. Outright lies.
I can tolerate many things but telling lies for fun or to ridicule people is the lowest of the low and fucking despicable.

So is it OK to post lies about people? Mr Paedophile? Mr Kiddie fiddler?
Have the balls to be a man and admit what you did.

[skunk]

Not to mention your thoughts are VERBATIM killer skunk propaganda.

[boycotteverything]

you were fucking with him? good boy. but please stick with your little boys.

[Chorlton]

You are trying to wriggle Mr Paedophile but it wont work.
You are a fucking gutless little liar who tells baseless lies in an attempt to ridicule people
and who says telling lies is fun.
Cunt
No
Gutless cunt.

[skunk]

Ok killer skunk propagandist.

[Chorlton]

You are a gutless kiddie fiddling paedophile liar
Your neighbour told me.

[boycotteverything]

neighbor not required. it's obvious.

[skunk]

Something stinks: This ridiculous BBC News piece says scientists "suspect" that "skunk" pot smokers are more at risk of psychotic illnesses than normal pot smokers.

PROPAGANDA ALERT: Skunk 'Bigger Psychosis Risk' Than Other Cannabis Types (http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/content/propaganda-alert-skunk-bigger-psychosis-risk-other-cannabis-types)


Having apparently missed the memo that the alleged causal link between marijuana and psychosis is demonstrably false, BBC News is still spreading mindless hysteria and confusion about it. In an article overflowing with dubious claims, this one in particular caught my eye:

The experts believe skunk is particularly damaging because it contains more THC.
…
Unlike skunk, hashish - cannabis resin - contains substantial quantities of another chemical called cannabidiol or CBD and research suggests this can act as an antidote to the THC, counteracting its psychotic side effects.
And where did all that delicious, brain-nurturing CBD come from? It came from the cannabis plant, i.e. the exact thing you're claiming is so dangerous. The statement above, though not entirely untrue, highlights the fundamental ignorance about the cannabis plant that underlies this whole crazy obsession with "skunk" that has gripped the British press for years now. So let me break this down for you:


1. Skunk is just one variety of cannabis and hardly comprises the bulk of the market for good marijuana. It's an old strain that's been hybridized a million times over with other strains to the point that one rarely knows if they're smoking Skunk or not. Many strains contain some amount of Skunk, but there's generally no way to tell, especially if you're buying on the black market. In reality, the British press is just using the term "skunk" as slang for any type of high-potency marijuana. And that's why the hash comparison is absurd…


2. The only reason hash is often high in CBD is because hash is usually made from indica strains, which produce more CBD. But most commercial cannabis is indica-dominant anyway, so the whole idea that hash contains some special ingredient that's missing from cannabis is just pure nonsense. It all comes from the plant and it just depends what variety you're using. Instead of calling everything "skunk" and confusing everyone, why not educate the public about which strains have the healthiest ingredients?


If you're concerned about the safety of marijuana users, there is absolutely only one logical solution: regulate and control the product so that users know what they're getting and researchers know what they're studying. We could argue about this for a thousand years, or we could test it out right now and learn the truth.

[boycotteverything]

skunk is nothing more than a sophomoric prick. he's shown it by words and by actions. He recently promised to leave the site and we're all waiting for him to keep at least one promise. but holding our breath? nah. we know his lies.

[skunk]

I'm still waiting for you to leave after your hoaxmasters stunt.

[boycotteverything]

You are a gutless kiddie fiddling paedophile liaramen to that

[Chorlton]

"I'm still waiting for you to leave after your hoaxmasters stunt. "

Im still waiting for an apology
Cuntfaced kiddie fiddling paedophile

[boycotteverything]

apology requires a modicum of intelligence. look not for that from Mr. Dick.

[Trauma Teased]

Sadly I know a little about this topic... I know a young person who smoked skunk on a regular basis for a few months, and he went into what is called a "cannabis induced psychosis" (at least that is what it's called here in Scandinavia).

He spent four months in psychiatric care, together with other youths who had suffered the same fate... He is still on medication to help fight the the symptons, which resemble schizofrenia. Perhaps he will be OK again in time. Perhaps not.

Skunk is around five times stronger that the "old fashioned" cannabis people smoked when I was in my youth. But the users smoke it like it was the old and much weaker stuff... The number of young people going into "cannabis induced psychosis" is growing now that skunk is taking over.

I hate the fucking stuff.

[Chorlton]

A Man gains lot of respect when he has the balls or is big enough to admit he was wrong or said something wrong.

I had a modicum of respect for Skunk prior to this but only scum sinks so low as to tell lies to ridicule others, and to not realise that, shows a lack of understanding that is not deserving of a Moderator.

[boycotteverything]

shows a lack of understanding that is not deserving of a Moderator. that, my friend, is a critical point.

[Chorlton]

Again, your inability to grasp the fact that you lied in an attempt to ridicule another is unforgiveable and unworthy of anything further from me after this.
You are either incredibly stupid or out of your skull.

[boycotteverything]

i vote for 'stupid.'

[skunk]

Start a poll you'll get a more accurate picture.

[boycotteverything]

reprieve time. our little dude with the high testes never did reply to this-

just a simple question- why are you so invested in promoting dope? what's so important? you've probably made 4000 posts on this issue. we all know by now that you smoke a lot of it and love it dearly. if that's all there is then wrap it up and go on about your business. but please stop all this endless promotion. let's just sum it up: dope is fun. dope is harmless. it's better for you than liquor. everything from lounge chairs to rocketships should be made of hemp.... we get it. ok?

[skunk]

I read your post, I chose not to take the bait.

[hp]

Some one must carry the banner.

[Chorlton]

reprieve time. our little dude with the high testes never did reply to this-


Hes also never replied to my question asking if its Ok for me to call him a paadophile

[Eyeforalie]

ANd you Chorlton have failed to yet post PROOF that this "Skunk" is different form Medicinal cannabis.

FAILED.

YOU FAILED.

ADMIT IT.

Thats the truth of the matter. You trolling for ten pages still doesnt change the fact that you are again wrong and AGAIN fail to back-up your statements by anything other then name calling and childish bickering.

Now prove your fucking point. If not, you fail. Again.

This shit is exactly what I meant by shitty research, Go back to hunting UFO's. At least your lack of proof will fit nicely into their research model. Actually you should go back to Hoaxmasters. At least there, one of your socks will respond to you.

You are wrong.

Calling skunk a pedophile doesnt change that fact.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

Told ya so:

People who smoke the highly potent form of cannabis known as skunk are almost seven times more likely to develop a psychotic illness than those who use the traditional strength drug, a new study shows for the first time.




http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/6691992/Skunk-linked-to-huge-increase-in-risk-of-psychotic-disease.html

I'm actually gonna have to agree with you here you faggot. Smoking weed fucked me ALLLLLLLLLLLL up. :( Seriously.

[century]

You trolling for ten pages still doesnt change the fact that you are again wrong and AGAIN fail to back-up your statements by anything other then name calling and childish bickering.

Now prove your fucking point. If not, you fail. Again.

This shit is exactly what I meant by shitty research, Go back to hunting UFO's. At least your lack of proof will fit nicely into their research model. Actually you should go back to Hoaxmasters. At least there, one of your socks will respond to you.

You are wrong.

Calling skunk a pedophile doesnt change that fact.



Thank You/Eat shit chorly

[Cogburn]

Told ya so:

People who smoke the highly potent form of cannabis known as skunk are almost seven times more likely to develop a psychotic illness than those who use the traditional strength drug, a new study shows for the first time.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/6691992/Skunk-linked-to-huge-increase-in-risk-of-psychotic-disease.html
Medicine by statistical derivation is not science: it's mathematics for capitalists.

What do I know, I just process medical statistics for Big Pharma.

[Eyeforalie]

Sorry Cog, that doesnt matter. Were using UFO research techniques now.

[Eyeforalie]

You are a gutless kiddie fiddling paedophile liar
Your neighbour told me.

liar.

Now you both are so shut the fuck up about it.

[century]

xbR9L0DR7oQ

[Lexion]

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Was that Penn ?

[century]

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Was that Penn ?



just click on the video twice / yes

[Lexion]

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa20/Lexion07/Penn.jpg

[Lexion]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbR9L0DR7oQ

[century]

Twice, click on the vid...twice

[Lexion]

It's disabled.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa20/Lexion07/Disabled.jpg

[century]

I apologize for the inconvenience :mad:

[Lexion]

No worries.

I posted the link.

:)

[Eyeforalie]

One of the most enduring myths about marijuana these days is the idea that today’s “bud” (or “skunk”, for my UK friends) is so much more potent than the grass of the 1960s.

Since then, “skunk,” as Britons call the hybrid form of cannabis in current usage, has offered users a 25-fold increase in tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), cannabis’s psychoactive ingredient.

http://stash.norml.org/not-your-fathers-pot-the-myth-of-cannabis-potency]NORML (http://stash.norml.org/not-your-fathers-pot-the-myth-of-cannabis-potency)

[Cogburn]

Medical marijuana gets a boost from major doctors group
The American Medical Assn. changes its policy to promote clinical research and development of cannabis-based medicines and alternative delivery methods.
By John Hoeffel
November 11, 2009
The American Medical Assn. on Tuesday urged the federal government to reconsider its classification of marijuana as a dangerous drug with no accepted medical use, a significant shift that puts the prestigious group behind calls for more research.

The nation's largest physicians organization, with about 250,000 member doctors, the AMA has maintained since 1997 that marijuana should remain a Schedule I controlled substance, the most restrictive category, which also includes heroin and LSD.

In changing its policy, the group said its goal was to clear the way to conduct clinical research, develop cannabis-based medicines and devise alternative ways to deliver the drug.

"Despite more than 30 years of clinical research, only a small number of randomized, controlled trials have been conducted on smoked cannabis," said Dr. Edward Langston, an AMA board member, noting that the limited number of studies was "insufficient to satisfy the current standards for a prescription drug product."

The decision by the organization's delegates at a meeting in Houston marks another step in the evolving view of marijuana, which an AMA report notes was once linked by the federal government to homicidal mania. Since California voters approved the use of medical marijuana in 1996, marijuana has moved steadily into the cultural mainstream spurred by the growing awareness that it can have beneficial effects for some chronically ill people.

This year, the Obama administration sped up that drift when it ordered federal narcotics agents not to arrest medical marijuana users and providers who follow state laws. Polls show broadening support for marijuana legalization.

Thirteen states allow the use of medical marijuana, and about a dozen more have considered it this year.

The AMA, however, also adopted as part of its new policy a sentence that admonishes: "This should not be viewed as an endorsement of state-based medical cannabis programs, the legalization of marijuana, or that scientific evidence on the therapeutic use of cannabis meets the current standards for a prescription drug product."

The association also rejected a proposal to issue a more forceful call for marijuana to be rescheduled.

Nevertheless, marijuana advocates welcomed the development. "They're clearly taking an open-minded stance and acknowledging that the evidence warrants a review. That is very big," said Bruce Mirken, a spokesman for the Marijuana Policy Project. "It's not surprising that they are moving cautiously and one step at a time, but this is still a very significant change."

Advocates also noted that the AMA rejected an amendment that they said would have undercut the medical marijuana movement. The measure would have made it AMA's policy that "smoking is an inherently unsafe delivery method for any therapeutic agent, and therefore smoked marijuana should not be recommended for medical use."

Dr. Michael M. Miller, a psychiatrist who practices addiction medicine, proposed the amendment. "Smoking is a bad delivery system because you're combusting something and inhaling it," he said.

Reaction from the federal government was muted.

Dawn Dearden with the Drug Enforcement Administration said: "At this point, it's still a Schedule I drug, and we're going to treat it as such." The Food and Drug Administration declined to comment.

In a statement, the office of the White House drug czar reiterated the administration's opposition to legalization and said that it would defer to "the FDA's judgment that the raw marijuana plant cannot meet the standards for identity, strength, quality, purity, packaging and labeling required of medicine."

The DEA classifies drugs into five schedules, with the fifth being the least-restrictive. Schedule II drugs, such as cocaine and morphine, are considered to have a high potential for abuse, but also to have accepted medical uses.

Several petitions have been filed to reschedule marijuana. The first, filed in 1972, bounced back and forth between the DEA and the courts until it died in 1994. A petition filed in 2002 is under consideration.

Kris Hermes, a spokesman for Americans for Safe Access, said that advocates hoped the petition would receive more attention. "Given the change of heart by the AMA, there is every opportunity for the Obama administration to do just that," he said.

In a report released with its new policy, the AMA notes that the organization was "virtually alone" in opposing the first federal restrictions on marijuana, which were adopted in 1937. Cannabis had been used in various medicinal products for years, but fell into disuse in the early 20th century.

Sunil Aggarwal, a medical student at the University of Washington, helped spark the AMA's reconsideration after he researched marijuana's effect on 186 chronically ill patients. "I had reason to believe that there was medical good that could come from these products, and I wanted to see AMA policy reflect that," he said.

The AMA is not the only major doctors organization to rethink marijuana. Last year, the American College of Physicians, the second-largest physician group, called for "rigorous scientific evaluation of the potential therapeutic benefits of medical marijuana" and an "evidence-based review of marijuana's status as a Schedule I controlled substance."

Last month, the California Medical Assn. passed resolutions that declared the criminalization of marijuana "a failed public health policy" and called on the organization to take part in the debate on changing current policy.
Three major medical organizations, all say there is no science to justify such claims as made in the OP tabloid.

Oh... but wait... what about the study quoted in the OP?

Background

People who use cannabis have an increased risk of psychosis, an effect attributed to the active ingredient 9-tetrahydrocannabinol (9-THC). There has recently been concern over an increase in the concentration of 9-THC in the cannabis available in many countries.

Aims

To investigate whether people with a first episode of psychosis were particularly likely to use high-potency cannabis.

Method

We collected information on cannabis use from 280 cases presenting with a first episode of psychosis to the South London & Maudsley National Health Service (NHS) Foundation Trust, and from 174 healthy controls recruited from the local population.

Results

There was no significant difference between cases and controls in whether they had ever taken cannabis, or age at first use. However, those in the cases group were more likely to be current daily users (OR = 6.4) and to have smoked cannabis for more than 5 years (OR = 2.1). Among those who used cannabis, 78% of the cases group used high-potency cannabis (sinsemilla, ‘skunk’) compared with 37% of the control group (OR 6.8).

Conclusions

The finding that people with a first episode of psychosis had smoked higher-potency cannabis, for longer and with greater frequency, than a healthy control group is consistent with the hypothesis that 9-THC is the active ingredient increasing risk of psychosis. This has important public health implications, given the increased availability and use of high-potency cannabis.

Given there's three major medical groups quoted in the article above that say that not enough testing has been done into the pharmacological effects of THC, I'm curious as to the manner in which the potency of the cannabis was accurately measured between the subject and control groups, and how that potency was translated into pharmacological effects for purposes of the study.

Until someone can produce such answers it's called
JUNK SCIENCE.

Fucking ignorant parrots. Not a clue as to what it is they are actually posting.

Here's another study from the same journal.
Background

Some studies suggest that cannabis use is associated with suicidal ideation, but no detailed longitudinal study has examined suicide as an outcome.

Aims

To examine the association between cannabis use and completed suicide.

Method

A longitudinal study investigated 50 087 men conscripted for Swedish military service, with cannabis use measured non-anonymously at conscription. Suicides during 33 years of follow-up were identified by linkage with the National Cause of Death Register.

Results

There were 600 (1.2% of cohort) suicides or deaths from undetermined causes. Cannabis use was associated with an increased risk of suicide (crude OR for ‘ever use’ 1.62, 95% CI 1.28–2.07), but this association was eliminated after adjustment for confounding (adjusted OR = 0.88, 95% CI 0.65–1.20).

Conclusions

Although there was a strong association between cannabis use and suicide, this was explained by markers of psychological and behavioural problems. These results suggest that cannabis use is unlikely to have a strong effect on risk of completed suicide, either directly or as a consequence of mental health problems secondary to its use.
No causal link, other than depressed people smoke pot and depressed people kill themselves.

[lala]

Sadly I know a little about this topic... I know a young person who smoked skunk on a regular basis for a few months, and he went into what is called a "cannabis induced psychosis" (at least that is what it's called here in Scandinavia).

He spent four months in psychiatric care, together with other youths who had suffered the same fate... He is still on medication to help fight the the symptons, which resemble schizofrenia. Perhaps he will be OK again in time. Perhaps not.

Skunk is around five times stronger that the "old fashioned" cannabis people smoked when I was in my youth. But the users smoke it like it was the old and much weaker stuff... The number of young people going into "cannabis induced psychosis" is growing now that skunk is taking over.

I hate the fucking stuff.


Imo the thing is, that the boy no doubt had the condition in his make up "gene's " if he only smoke for a few month, then stopped he wouldn't have any pot left in his system. What people do is blame the drug, but any drug, alcohol, emotional upheveal could of triggered him to become psychosis . . . it just happpened on this drug at the time and truth be know he'll be on medication for the rest of his life because he has a "health problem" which when mixed with the wrong thing magnify the effects . . . they didn't create the problem, they brought it to the surface . . . is there any history of these problem in the family? I'd be more worried about the drugs they put him on to control his problem . . . perscription drug addicts live on drugs for life, a lot have to go on the methadone program to get off their perscription drug, and nine times out of ten they on that for life . . . you don't have to do that with pot . . . :cool:

[Cogburn]

Sure does a lot for all the doctors, hospitals and pharmaceutical companies that are providing for his "care".

I wonder if TT's friend is making out as well for the situation.

[Chorlton]

Medicine by statistical derivation is not science: it's mathematics for capitalists.

What do I know, I just process medical statistics for Big Pharma.

You changed your job then?
Last year you told someone here you worked for Reuters ?

[Chorlton]

[/offsite]No causal link, other than depressed people smoke pot and depressed people kill themselves.

Aint selective editting wonderfull, and selectively seeking articles which support your particular stance, especially when it backs up your delusions?

You rubbish one set of statistics and research when it doesnt suit you and then find another that does.

As Ive said before. You obviously dont get out much. Cant you get the fire brigade to knock down a wall or something so you can actually leave your shed?

[Cogburn]

It's a big company and you get to do lots of fun stuff.

I don't use medical statistics in my arguments because I know them for the bullshit that they are, which is obviously what you don't understand. What I use are real, depersonalized medical diagnosis and treatment data, not aggregated statistics, which is the only proof that you seem to be able to provide for any of your claims.

Oh... by the way... that second article about depression and marijuana was from your research, not mine. It was published in the same edition of the journal that was quoted in your OP article, you just never bothered to read it.