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captainkiwi
11-29-2009, 08:34 PM
Coming to a town near you ...taxing our asses of will fix it ....take note of the stance of the journalist .....why are the global media so quite about this ....of topic agenda .....why are more people talking about this cynical tax grab ........try to bring up the topic on talk back radio and see how far you get you may be enlightend


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Lexion
11-29-2009, 08:36 PM
Yay..

Youtube commentary.

captainkiwi
11-29-2009, 08:38 PM
fuck you to Lex ....bend over and assume the position

Lexion
11-29-2009, 08:39 PM
On your back ?

captainkiwi
11-29-2009, 08:43 PM
more tube for you Lex better lube up dude
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Lexion
11-29-2009, 08:45 PM
I get the scam.

Would rather see your thoughts.

(God, I'm turning into BE)

captainkiwi
11-29-2009, 09:25 PM
I get the scam.

Would rather see your thoughts.

(God, I'm turning into BE)

My thoughts are why the fuck are more people not discussing this in the media.........
WHAT THE FUCK ARE GOVERNMENTS GOING TO DO WITH ALL THAT CASH AND JUST HOW THE FUCK WILL THIS TAX REVERSE HALT OR STOP THE SO CALLED INCONVENIENT TRUTH.
The silents on this subject is deafening ......and tells me we are totally fucked ........just another piece in the puzzle ......
I think the workers of the world should quit ........

Plus what are people from your neck of the woods saying or thinking about this Gigantic load of bullshit .....
??????????????????
WELL , and not the hole in the ground

Lexion
11-29-2009, 09:33 PM
Ok, thanks for your comments.

Because it doesn't concern the
"normal people".

They see it as "politics" and don't
worry.

Yes, it's going to cause taxes, and
more job losses.

But the Govt's are happy to keep it
on their own ground.

I feel your anger.

Bitchkoma
11-30-2009, 12:32 AM
Lex, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. Read up on how you too can make obscene cash from expelled air. There's no profitable carbon trading scheme in Malaysia, I wish there was coz I want to get in on the action too. You on the other hand are in the US, where there are several options to choose from. Don't miss out. Stop whining and complaining about it and get your piece of the pie, I urge you.

century
11-30-2009, 01:08 AM
Obama plans on generation upwards of 646 billion from the new cap and trade/ carbon tax scheme

that just about covers the stimulus ........

USnews.com

Obama's $646 Billion Cap-And-Trade Green Tax


By James Pethokoukis (http://www.usnews.com/Topics/tag/Author/p/james_pethokoukis/index.html)
Posted: February 26, 2009

As I see it, the most important single item in President Obama's budget is his commitment to a cap-and-trade plan (to limit and reduce carbon emissions). It represents nothing less than an absolutely breath-taking attempt at reengineering the entire American economy. The White House expects the system will begin generating revenue for the government in 2012. By auctioning off carbon permits, the White expects the plan to bring some $80 billion a year between from 2012 to 2019.
1) What this is, of course, is a de facto business tax that will get passed along to workers and consumers. (Not to mention the impact on economic growth.) And not a small tax, at that. Over that same period, the White House expects regular to bring in some $3.8 trillion dollars. So the cap-and-trade auction impose an additional 20 percent tax or cost above that level. And remember that we already have the second highest corporate in the world.
2) Of that $80 billion, $15 billion would go toward "clean" energy investment. The rest would pay for his Making Work credits. So what we have is, in essence, an enormous wealth transfer from job creators to consumers.
3) Let me also go back to something I wrote last summer:
Here is what William Pizer, an economist at Resources for the Future and a lead author on the most recent report from the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, said at a symposium earlier this week here in Washington: "As an economist, I am skeptical that [dealing with climate change] is going to make money. You'll have new industries, but they'll be doing what old industries did but a higher net cost.... You'll be depleting other industries."
Of course, many economists will recognize "the green is good for growth" trap that Obama and Clinton have stumbled into. It's just a modern iteration of the famous "broken windows fallacy (http://www.usnews.com/blogs/capital-commerce/2007/7/24/global-warming-isnt-an-economic-win-win.html)" where people mistake the shifting of wealth and resources for the creation of new wealth and resources.
Pizer went on to say that calls for dramatic reductions in carbon emissions—the Democrats want 80 percent, John McCain 65 percent—were also unrealistic unless there was"some event"that really galvanized public opinion. Instead, what he predicted was a modest price on carbon via a cap-and-trade plan, a greater push for efficiency, and more regulation of energy-intensive industries.


Al Gore isn't going to go easy