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hp
11-03-2009, 12:37 AM
[offsite=http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2009-10/darpa-celebrates-internet-anniversary-bizarre-balloon-challenge:91o36skl]Most DARPA challenges serve some sort of obvious military or intelligence purpose. But the agency has us scratching our heads over its latest competition, the Network Challenge: a $40,000 cash prize will go to the first person who finds the correct latitude and longitude of ten weather balloons located within the continental United States.

The DARPA Network Challenge kicked off on Thursday to commemorate the Internet's 40th anniversary, and marked four decades since the first message was sent over the Department of Defense's ARPANET.

Each of the 10 red balloons will be placed in hidden but publicly accessible locations during the daylight hours of December 5. Would-be balloon hunters can start registering for the challenge on December 1, and have until December 14 to submit balloon locations to the contest website.

DARPA has left only the vaguest clues as to its intentions, but it's clear that the mad science lab has a strong interest in leveraging the power of online social networking. The contest rules note that the agency "will compute aggregate statistics," and may contact contestants "to discuss the means and methods used in solving the challenge."

We're used to DARPA reaching for the stars on schemes such as space debris cleanup and creating cyborg beetles. And who wouldn't get behind self-regulated morphine delivery for wounded warfighters?

Still, this particular challenge can't help but remind us of the CIA's recent investment in a firm that monitors social networking. Perhaps the Department of Defense has even hit upon a more cost-effective approach for just $40,000 (and there's no prize for second place).

In any case, DARPA clearly hopes to mine useful surveillance or tracking techniques based on existing Internet tools. Future intelligence analysts and field agents might gather intel and communicate in ways that ape how social networks already find news nuggets, gossip tidbits and the latest hot spots. Which leads us to this question -- tweet much, Jack Bauer?[/offsite:91o36skl]

Hello, this big brother, help us find out just how good people are using the internet. Now we can go to congress and get control of the net for 'national security'. $40k looks good to the average citizen and it's a bargain in our billion dollar budget. That 40K will get us billions more for, let's call it research.'

IMO, this is not good for the home team.

pack3tg0st
11-03-2009, 12:50 AM
Its simpler than that HP...

Find the methods... and you can figure out how to control the results :)

hp
11-03-2009, 12:52 AM
Good observation.

pack3tg0st
11-03-2009, 01:09 AM
wonder what happens if you get "Creative" with the project...

would it throw off their results? or would it help them just that much more?

Royal
11-03-2009, 02:47 AM
This is a weird project. This has to be a step to something else. Anyways, 40k is not enough for a prize to find ten balloons across the country. Too many pitfalls in the competition it seems like.


NWO testing. Making the citizens patrol their own.

Oblivion
11-03-2009, 06:26 AM
so 10 people report back, each their own balloon, = 4k each.

hp
11-03-2009, 09:16 AM
Ii will end up as groups of hunters banded together. Team xxxxxx.

Everyone should put some red balloons out in their area on the 5th. Make it interesting.

hp
11-03-2009, 09:20 AM
own balloon, = 4k each.

Typical gov, a 2 cent balloon = 4K dollars.

boycotteverything
11-03-2009, 09:30 AM
This is a weird project. This has to be a step to something else.


NWO testing. You're right. The project's hidden agenda is the validation of the SRI research into RV. This a TIA/ DARPA project. It also has Ufological implications as does all TIA research. The SERPO project was another example of this kind of research.

hp
11-03-2009, 09:31 AM
DARPA 40th anniversary = 40K. The loose change found in their couch over the years.

boycotteverything
11-03-2009, 09:34 AM
Royal wrote:
This is a weird project. This has to be a step to something else.


NWO testing.
You're right. The project's hidden agenda is the validation of the SRI research into RV. This a TIA/ DARPA project. It also has Ufological implications as does all TIA research. The SERPO project was another example of this kind of research.

boycotteverything
11-03-2009, 09:36 AM
Pack- take note of the above. Propaganda has esoteric applications. We here love to speculate that black tech is far more advanced than public sector tech. The same holds true for intelligence.

hp
11-03-2009, 09:50 AM
[offsite=http://networkchallenge.darpa.mil/:19hubmbd]To mark the 40th anniversary of the Internet, DARPA has announced the DARPA Network Challenge, a competition that will explore the roles the Internet and social networking play in the timely communication, wide-area team-building, and urgent mobilization required to solve broad-scope, time-critical problems.

The challenge is to be the first to submit the locations of 10 moored, 8-foot, red, weather balloons at 10 fixed locations in the continental United States. The balloons will be in readily accessible locations and visible from nearby roads.


HOW TO COMPETE

1. Register on this web site on December 1.
2. Find other people interested in helping you solve the DARPA Network Challenge.
3. Starting December 5, submit locations to the web site immediately after you find them.
4. For updates, follow us on Twitter.[/offsite:19hubmbd]

Edit:


1. Register on this web site on December 1.

Jump right into the lion's den...

boycotteverything
11-03-2009, 10:27 AM
Another HP says, "Find that balloon."

http://www.johnpratt.com/items/docs/lds/meridian/2006/images/puthoff.jpg
The other HP

hp
11-03-2009, 10:50 AM
Wonder if DARPA got the balloon theme idea after the Balloon Boy fiasco.

"Hey Larry, how about using balloons. Every one loves balloons."

Lexion
11-03-2009, 12:29 PM
1]14IRDDnEPR41]

Cogburn
11-03-2009, 12:56 PM
Royal wrote:
This is a weird project. This has to be a step to something else.


NWO testing.
You're right. The project's hidden agenda is the validation of the SRI research into RV. This a TIA/ DARPA project. It also has Ufological implications as does all TIA research. The SERPO project was another example of this kind of research.

Don't overthink it. This is a method to track viral spread of intelligence via social networking sites, as HP suggested. Akin to placing a rubber duck in a river and watching how it flows.

How, exactly, is this intended to validate any research into RV? An experiment contains controls and there are no controls on this experiment.

What's stopping me from fucking up the whole deal with my own balloons?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_g91oFxzk3Dc/SblZMwkvcyI/AAAAAAAAAE4/EvMXpPh09jE/s320/reynolds-wrap.jpg

Lexion
11-03-2009, 01:02 PM
What's stopping me from fucking up the whole deal with my own balloons?

Maybe they expect people
to do that.

Easy way to spot subversion.

Cogburn
11-03-2009, 01:10 PM
People have been pissing in the punch bowl for as long as there have been punch bowls, and doing it for no other reason than their own amusement.

Now you're thinking too much.

hp
11-03-2009, 01:10 PM
At the close of the contest, team ATS finds they have scored zero correct locations. Later research indicates that ATS team members mistook red painted blow up dolls for the target balloons. Team leader Springer states he intends to file a complaint, stating "the balloon descriptions were not precise enough".

Cogburn
11-03-2009, 01:12 PM
I just like how this game really only works well if you're a friendwhore.

If DARPA wants to study that lot, be my guest.

Lexion
11-03-2009, 01:13 PM
Now you're thinking too much.

Heh.

First time I've been accused of that.

:P

boycotteverything
11-03-2009, 01:14 PM
The controls are sitting in Poindexter's office. Recommended reading:[inmg=:y9n194cm]http://www.deanradin.com/NewWeb/EMcoverSm.jpg[/inmg:y9n194cm]

theeindiee
11-03-2009, 05:51 PM
nointy noin red luftballoonsche?

Cogburn
11-03-2009, 06:13 PM
http://www.deanradin.com/NewWeb/EMcoverSm.jpg
Funny you posted that book.

It was one of the references I ran into while rummaging through the university library researching causal efficacy.

I am currently drafting for the other thread so I'll reserve further commentary for such time.
:)