Already have a deleted thread at SHTF

[Lexion]

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa20/Lexion07/Deletedthread-1.jpg

It wasn't an empty post.

I said "meh".

Had a couple responses.

Then posted :

All I've found here is :

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa20/Lexion07/fruitcake-1.jpg

Thread gone.

ATS clone.

Edit to add : Gotta crop the pic.

Second edit to add cropped pic.

[pack3tg0st]

hrm.

interesting.

[Lexion]

Sent him a pm :

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa20/Lexion07/Response.jpg

[boycotteverything]

jesus lex- you could get yourself thrown out of a whorehouse. badddd

[hp]

Quick and dirty testing. Works most of the time. Guess too much of Bill rubbed off on him, or is it payback using a random person.

I would think a decent new member is worth more than a positioned post many will not even see.

[hp]

We can give him some JS to count characters, aka Bill, to stop these troublesome short posts.

[Lexion]

New "Meh" thread, there.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa20/Lexion07/Del2.jpg

[Cogburn]

I think people having conversations is worth more than banned opinions.

Perhaps we can harass warrenb enough that he'll allow his "experts" to be directly challenged, and grow some thicker skins.

Like I said before, I doubt one of those "experts" would last a single thread at AmKon.

[Lexion]

Tis why I provoke.

Thought, I prefer....

Action is cool, too.

Edit to add : Probably why most
of us are banned everywhere but here.

BE and I being the exception.

I think we're the only active posters
that have been banned from AmKon.

[Cogburn]

Missed the fact you posted a complaint.

Gotta get 'em while their young.

[hp]

Hey, me and Bill are best buddies. I got an autographed ATS blowup doll as a christmas gift last year plus 75 flags.

[pack3tg0st]

Shit HP... you got ripped off...

anyone can give flags... only a staff member can give applause :)

Lex: I feel it necessary to bring it up again... but I've been banned from google before.

Come back when ya pull that one off :)

[Lexion]

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa20/Lexion07/Reply.jpg

Different definitions of hypocrisy
and censorship.

Nice.

Bill, is that you ?

Shit, Pack....I'm trying to get
banned from Photobucket atm.

Give me time.

[hp]

Bill's back on the shit list. I feel, so, so cheap.

[Cogburn]

Wow...

... just .... wow.

Warrenb, if you're reading this... Fire your moderators all and start over by finding ones that own a modern dictionary.

You are already what you most despise.

[Lexion]

:lol:

Deleted my new OP :

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa20/Lexion07/Deleted3.jpg

This has got to be ATS fishing.

[Lexion]

Just noticed.....

They put my second post
in the Trashbin.

Fucking poseurs.

[pack3tg0st]

Tell them that "meh" was an attempt to start a philosophical debate about the different points of existentialism and nihilism...

Act offended that they didn't understand... and anyone with any modicum of self reflection would have understood what you were trying to say...

Then invite BE over to help you fight back philosophically...

[Lexion]

Hell.....

I'm hoping AmKon goes there
enmasse.

Show them true Freedom.

[pack3tg0st]

has john lear posted there yet?

Could always destroy him publically (Again)...

Or show em the meaning of free speech and start a thread called "SHTF is an ATS Shill site!"

Don't want to go en masse until the shtf

:lol:

[Lexion]

New post.....

See how long it lasts....

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa20/Lexion07/Callingout.jpg

Hush about the 99 Red Balloons....

I like that song.

And, I suck at MSPaint.

[pack3tg0st]

:lol:

Ok... I promise not to comment on any images in my head of you bouncing around your living room like a high school cheerleader singing that song...

oops...

anyway, looks like you're running Vista...

click on the windows logo... and where it says start search... type "snip" The Snipping tool will come up...

You can highlight any portion of the screen (make a box) and it will snip that section of a screenshot... ezmode...

Then we won't know that the next song coming up on your player is "Barbie Girl"... :)

[Lexion]

I like Barbie Girl, too.

Anyway :

http://shtf411.com/king-censoring-me-t584.html

[Lexion]

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa20/Lexion07/Callingout2.jpg

Thanks, Pack !!!

[boycotteverything]

yeah it was a stupid post. 'meh?' gimme a break. the problem is that they don't know you like we do. while your 'mehs' might have a flavor and meaning to us they fall flat on untrained ears! hahahahaha

[boycotteverything]

by the way- i like Miss Afortiori. She'd fit right in here.

[Lexion]

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa20/Lexion07/Capture.jpg

[pack3tg0st]

oh god

http://shtf411.com/connecting-ats-to-the-department-of-defense-t569.html

[Cogburn]

Yo Lex: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snipping_Tool

Now you've made that thread fun. I think I'll head over and play for a minute.

[Cogburn]

For those of you wishing to play along at home.

http://shtf411.com/king-censoring-me-t584.html

[pack3tg0st]

lol I felt pity cog...

I had to chip in and nudge their research a little...

I would rather have them arrive at the truth than further muddy the waters for the next ATS researcher...

[Lexion]

But......

They ARE the muddy water.

[Cogburn]

We will show them the way or we will be banned.

Either way, the world will know what kind of site they are running.

Mojo should post his I-Q-T material in public. I think they'd find it fascinating. :)

[Cogburn]

We're already the #3 referrer over there, and they locked your complaint thread on what can only be considered the internet version of an apology.

There's hope.

[Eyeforalie]

I got the keys.

http://shtf411.com/king-censoring-me-t597.html

[Lexion]

Well done.

[hp]

Those folks area few years behind on the ATS research.

[Eyeforalie]

I laughed my ass off when I clicked post and it was locked.

[Eyeforalie]

Ahhh! hahahaa

Lex's response:

Smite

[Cogburn]

lol Eye... I was happy they decided to simply state in public that they don't want to behave like that.

You're actually trying to hold them accountable. :)

Smite, yourself.

[pack3tg0st]

Mojo should post his I-Q-T material in public. I think they'd find it fascinating. :)

I thought mojo spammed the intertubes with that... even gave permission for it to be reposted without attribution at one point in time...

[Cogburn]

... and then you or apeci deleted it.

Gotcha.

:)

MOJO REPOST YOUR SHIT SO WE CAN HELP MAKE YOU FAMOUS

[Eyeforalie]

I think I have a copy saved of the final somewherez...If need be.

[Lexion]

Says a lot :

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa20/Lexion07/Banned.jpg

[Lexion]

Yeah...................

[Eyeforalie]

Congrats.

Your legacy will live on.

[skunk]

That didn't take too long...not looking like a great affiliate site.

[Lexion]

God knows, I try.

[warrenb]

well that killed that

[Lexion]

well that killed that


Yep.

Insert another quarter ?

[warrenb]

I was looking forward to some interesting posts from you guys
but instead we got a thread dipped in shit with sprinkles on top

While King did delete the thread overzealously, there was really no need to keep pushing the matter a simple PM would have solved

frankly its left a sour taste
if this is what you do then so be it, too bad your good apples get dragged down with you

[Eyeforalie]

its 'drug'. Try some. Maybe you'll open your fuckin eyes and see whats up. Or is your mind already made up?

Or maybe you should all get your ducks straight in your own heads before spewing bullshit all over.

[mojo]

... and then you or apeci deleted it.

Gotcha.

:)

MOJO REPOST YOUR SHIT SO WE CAN HELP MAKE YOU FAMOUS


http://shtf411.com/in-q-tel-truste-and-your-privacy-t608-p4897.html

:D

[hp]

So all our posts, several threads get that response. How long before all the noobs wake up and leave there?

[skunk]

Some people like comfortable. That's not amkon.

[pack3tg0st]

I dunno... I'm comfortable here...

Not having rules is liberating and comfortable...

[mur]

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii218/murnut/lex.jpg

[pack3tg0st]

“I have always been among those who believed that the greatest freedom of speech was the greatest safety, because if a man is a fool, the best thing to do is to encourage him to advertise the fact by speaking” ~Woodrow Wilson

[mojo]

I was looking forward to some interesting posts from you guys
but instead we got a thread dipped in shit with sprinkles on top

While King did delete the thread overzealously, there was really no need to keep pushing the matter a simple PM would have solved

frankly its left a sour taste
if this is what you do then so be it, too bad your good apples get dragged down with you

honestly, the whole thing seems like an over reaction.
i think a whole bunch of people need a humour injection, from both sides of the fence.

btw, none of the good apples are being dragged down, we stand side by side. :)

[boycotteverything]

PMed to King-


Let me just say- I'm against bannings for any reason. The special thread that you're proposing was also established at Amkon in it's formative months. Amkon also has a history of banning regardless of its current position concerning free speech. I was personally banned there more than once but was always quickly invited back after the kerfuffle of the moment subsided. There will always be mods with the attitude of gauleiters in pointy hats. The administration of any given forum unfortunately often morphs into a clique that is incapable of excising its own bad actors. That also exists at Amkon to a degree. I'm hoping that SHTF is able to avoid this basic mistake. Time will tell. But I suggest that Lexion will eventually become a valuable member here just as he is at Amkon. He can be a bit of a twit but he's also incisive and funny. So...I'd ask that you reconsider the ban and invite him back. He made his point and in my opinion it was a valuable one.

Best regards,

Boycotteverything and the cartoonsyndicate

[hp]

There were 3 or 4 of us feeding them CT info for a thread there. Seems that was overlooked. First impression, exact same MO as Mr. Bill.

Lex has full filled a valuable duty there, testing the hardened shelter.

[boycotteverything]

meh

[pack3tg0st]

lol seconded...

Meh

They did admit they made a mistake...

they were fairly apologetic...

Lex was kind of a dick after that lol

[mojo]

PMed to King-


Let me just say- I'm against bannings for any reason. The special thread that you're proposing was also established at Amkon in it's formative months. Amkon also has a history of banning regardless of its current position concerning free speech. I was personally banned there more than once but was always quickly invited back after the kerfuffle of the moment subsided. There will always be mods with the attitude of gauleiters in pointy hats. The administration of any given forum unfortunately often morphs into a clique that is incapable of excising its own bad actors. That also exists at Amkon to a degree. I'm hoping that SHTF is able to avoid this basic mistake. Time will tell. But I suggest that Lexion will eventually become a valuable member here just as he is at Amkon. He can be a bit of a twit but he's also incisive and funny. So...I'd ask that you reconsider the ban and invite him back. He made his point and in my opinion it was a valuable one.

Best regards,

Boycotteverything and the cartoonsyndicate

and of course we all know that your shit don't stink.

[boycotteverything]

as only our lex can be!

[Eyeforalie]

lol seconded...

Meh

They did admit they made a mistake...

they were fairly apologetic...

Lex was kind of a dick after that lol

He has every right to be a dick to them. They did it to him...Not saying it IS right.

They dont like when I call them "daddy" in a metaphor and get all whiny while disrespecting me IMO, far worse.

[boycotteverything]

man- the lesson is not to shit on a neighbor's new oriental carpet before you're on a first name basis.

[Ethereal_Resonance]

Also understand the indoctrinated 'pleasantness' that has been drilled into the newly exiled members @ SHTF, after an eon on ATS.

They need to be ruffled a bit to get thicker skin and know that humour transcends many levels, albeit lost in the interweb.

[Cogburn]

http://shtf411.com/in-q-tel-truste-and-your-privacy-t608-p4897.html

:D
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy/browse_thread/thread/20c23d9538f47aeb#

I added a little bit to the top to make it relevant to recent events:

"This information is provided without the need for attribution,
courtesy of the last bastion of free thought on the internet, www.amkon.net (http://www.amkon.net).
Beware of "conspiracy sites" that claim to protect your privacy with
TRUSTe certification: it is nothing less than the reddest of herrings. "

[hp]

Also understand the indoctrinated 'pleasantness' that has been drilled into the newly exiled members @ SHTF, after an eon on ATS.

They need to be ruffled a bit to get thicker skin and know that humour transcends many levels, albeit lost in the interweb.

Brainwashing, it really does work.

[Cogburn]

... and why moderators that moderate least, moderate best.

No, it doesn't make for a very pretty "Recent Posts" window and sometimes people actually leave, never to return. Some people get seriously pissed off and post guro.

But that's the price you pay... the beauty of freedom is in its ugliness.

What you end up is that elusive mythical beast of the internet: a strong, yet spontaneous and organic, community.

[mur]

... and why moderators that moderate least, moderate best.

No, it doesn't make for a very pretty "Recent Posts" window and sometimes people actually leave, never to return. Some people get seriously pissed off and post guro.

But that's the price you pay... the beauty of freedom is in its ugliness.

What you end up is that elusive mythical beast of the internet: a strong, yet spontaneous and organic, community.

This post is poetry at its best....beautiful, just beautiful

[Cogburn]

Hehehe... thanks. I'll add it to my coffee house Open Mic Night repertoire. :)

I've run a couple of internet forums and participated in a shitload more, and I never cease to be impressed with Jasn's vision for this forum and how sustainable "letting go" can actually be. Don't make it a business or take it seriously and it will become everything you desire. Pondering the existence and nature of AmKon itself leads to satori.

Often imitated, never duplicated.

Which might not be all bad given the amount of superior discourse and insult that have vanished this year.

:smokin:

[skunk]

I never cease to be impressed with Jasn's vision for this forum and how sustainable "letting go" can actually be. Don't make it a business or take it seriously and it will become everything you desire.

Seconded.

[pack3tg0st]

Poor sods... they're still in denial...

They think ATS is going to go down the tubes because they were posting solid content...

a few months they'll realize...

ATS keeps plodding on... someone else will rise up and fill their shoes...

They don't care about longevity or post quality...

its all numbers to them...

clicks4cash...

I don't have the heart to tell em yet...

some of those guys were there for 4+ yrs...

[skunk]

Credit or debit?

[lala]

Poor sods... they're still in denial...

They think ATS is going to go down the tubes because they were posting solid content...

a few months they'll realize...

ATS keeps plodding on... someone else will rise up and fill their shoes...

They don't care about longevity or post quality...

its all numbers to them...

clicks4cash...

I don't have the heart to tell em yet...

some of those guys were there for 4+ yrs...

Very true Pac, we all can be replaced, there always someone in the back gound ready to step up to the mark . . . . :D

[Ethereal_Resonance]

Surely every wall will collapse if enough bricks are knocked out.

That's why ATS are Google bombing any and everything to do with CT stuff, so they saturate the search indexes, hence their plethora of sites, sister sites & sub-sites. Any thread or post with derogatory remarks against their 'quest' is instantly trashed, so bots don't pick it up but with the pretence of "Deny Ignorance"; kind of an oxymoron.

I think ATS may only find failure through its own success and its very membership will feel marginalised as it becomes more and more mainstream to pull in the advertising $$$. They will be corporate whores with SO at the helm, detracting from the very essence of what its purpose was in the first place...a place for a niche audience to quack away their mad theories that sheeple would otherwise dismiss.

[Cogburn]

SEO strategies are like religions: once you take the plunge, you're pretty much in it for life... and Bill read his from a book or blog or seminar or something, certainly not from actual experience, as his bio will indicate.

Every wall has cracks, made easier when the guy building it is borderline retarded.

There is one thing that will always break the ATS paradigm, and that is liberally applied intellect.

Every time Bill hears about a public school failing its students he must jump up and cheer because it's another generation stupid enough to believe what is passed for "truth" on his website.

There's ways to get around that, too. I'd be curious to know the statistics from the universities local to me. I'm quite positive it's lower than other members of the UC system. That would be because I can't get to them in person.

If your shit only lives on the internet, real life can destroy it in about 10 minutes of casual conversation in a coffee shop.

[captainkiwi]

... and why moderators that moderate least, moderate best.

No, it doesn't make for a very pretty "Recent Posts" window and sometimes people actually leave, never to return. Some people get seriously pissed off and post guro.

But that's the price you pay... the beauty of freedom is in its ugliness.

What you end up is that elusive mythical beast of the internet: a strong, yet spontaneous and organic, community.

This post is poetry at its best....beautiful, just beautiful

I dig where your all at .... I'm hearing ....and seeing .....cheers AmKon,com

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty or safety." BF.
you guys are all right

[Chorlton]

I wonder what would happen if I registered over there and decided to debate the Mike Singh bullshit
Would I get banned?

Could anyone also tell me, is there any stuff about or from Gridkeeper over there? If there is I'll be there in a flash.

[mojo]

and I never cease to be impressed with Jasn's vision for this forum and how sustainable "letting go" can actually be

lol, if you only knew.
i should write it all down one day.
i'm amazed everyday i log on to see how far this little beast has evolved.

[Chorlton]

i'm amazed everyday i log on to see how far this little beast has evolved.

I have the same feeling every morning when I go for a pee. :D

[warrenb]

Well its a new day and all that

We've removed some moderators and council members who were trying to implement their own agendas into the site.

Some house cleaning was in order.
It's funny when you think you know someone but they turn out to be a douche bucket.

We'll be adding a T&C sometime this week, today or tomorrow.
In a nutshell, we just want civil discussion.
Name calling, slandering and all that can be had in our new "Arena forum" (coming today) where you can beat the shit out of each other to your hearts content.
Whatever floats your boat.

Am I alone in wishing drinking hard liquor in the morning was not frowned upon?
hah

[Foxtrot Oscar]

It's always 22:18 somewhere...

Like right here in fact!

Fox

[pack3tg0st]

Am I alone in wishing drinking hard liquor in the morning was not frowned upon?
hah

hehe Just mix it with your coffee...

no one will ever know....

[Chorlton]

In a nutshell, we just want civil discussion.
hah

How can you have a 'Civil discussion' when people post total bollocks?

[Bitchkoma]

Name calling, slandering and all that can be had in our new "Arena forum" (coming today) where you can beat the shit out of each other to your hearts content.

We had something like that once. It didn't really work, but good luck to you folks. Maybe you might find a formula that works out.

[hp]

We've removed some moderators and council members who were trying to implement their own agendas into the site.

Damn, that was fast.

Might be good but then there are sites who think that about their members right before clicking the ban button.

[warrenb]

If some tosser comes in and purposefully starts trashing peoples opinions or derailing a topic then they shouldn't be there in the first place.

If someone seriously has no life and all they get joy out of is being a wanker on forums then perhaps they should seek a new hobby or an alternative place where such behavior is acceptable.

my 2 pence


We had something like that once. It didn't really work
why didn't it work out and what went wrong?

:?:


...

to clarify...their "positions" have been removed. They can still access and use the site freely.

[skunk]

If someone seriously has no life and all they get joy out of is being a wanker on forums

Some people make that into a full time job dude. That can't stop you from having a good time on your forum.


perhaps they should seek an alternative place where such behavior is acceptable.

AmKon?

[hp]

If some tosser comes in and purposefully starts trashing peoples opinions or derailing a topic then they shouldn't be there in the first place.

lol. One of the council members avatar stated thread killer...


...

to clarify...their "positions" have been removed. They can still access and use the site freely.

I was actually referring to member banning in general on the net. Some are banned because their opinion doesn't match the management, plus or minus.

[pack3tg0st]

Some are banned because their opinion doesn't match the management,

The First Filter of the Propaganda Model.

but maybe thats unfair at this point lol

Propaganda model shoudl only apply if they're planing on monetizing the site in the future...

[mur]

Well its a new day and all that

We've removed some moderators and council members who were trying to implement their own agendas into the site.

Some house cleaning was in order.
It's funny when you think you know someone but they turn out to be a douche bucket.

We'll be adding a T&C sometime this week, today or tomorrow.
In a nutshell, we just want civil discussion.
Name calling, slandering and all that can be had in our new "Arena forum" (coming today) where you can beat the shit out of each other to your hearts content.
Whatever floats your boat.

Am I alone in wishing drinking hard liquor in the morning was not frowned upon?
hah

Bravo

[Lexion]

And............................













I'm still banned.

:D

[skunk]

We'll be adding a T&C

I would recommend keeping your rules simple and to the point.


In a nutshell, we just want civil discussion.

Good luck with that.


Name calling, slandering and all that can be had in our new "Arena forum" (coming today) where you can beat the shit out of each other to your hearts content.

Name calling slandering et all is a part of life.

Same goes with the net. You can't protect everyone's feelings, someone is going to get hurt and there ain't a damn thing you can do about it.

[hp]

Some are banned because their opinion doesn't match the management,

The First Filter of the Propaganda Model.

but maybe thats unfair at this point lol

Propaganda model shoudl only apply if they're planing on monetizing the site in the future...

Of course, the money trail wouldn't have to go directly through the site. Sometimes power and control are just as enticing.

[boycotteverything]

I wonder what would happen if I registered over there and decided to debate the Mike Singh bullshit
Would I get banned?

Could anyone also tell me, is there any stuff about or from Gridkeeper over there? If there is I'll be there in a flash.No- you would not. I'd love to see that thread.

[skunk]

I'm still banned.

How did you already get yourself banned? :lol:

[hp]

The three amigos - money, control, ego

[boycotteverything]

Well its a new day and all that

We've removed some moderators and council members who were trying to implement their own agendas into the site.

Some house cleaning was in order.
It's funny when you think you know someone but they turn out to be a douche bucket.

Am I alone in wishing drinking hard liquor in the morning was not frowned upon?
hahGreat work, Warren. You're doing the right thing. If only Amkon would follow your lead.

[hp]

How did you already get yourself banned?

it appears that in net-speek that LEX = BAN

[skunk]

If only Amkon would follow your lead.

Clean house of trolls?

[pack3tg0st]

If I ever have a need to create a cipher... I'll make sure that LEX = BAN lol

we'll call it the Amkon Cipher...

[Bitchkoma]

We had something like that once. It didn't really work
why didn't it work out and what went wrong?

:?:


Mostly because we already bash each other in the other forums, so it was kind of a redundant sub-forum to have.

[pack3tg0st]

Great work, Warren. You're doing the right thing. If only Amkon would follow your lead.

Someone around here has an agenda?

Shit man... I can't even see past my cup of coffee at the moment...

I'd suck at agendas.

[skunk]

He wants the site run his way, with his agenda. Ain't gonna happen though. Sorry bud. :pound:

[pack3tg0st]

Meh... agendas are overrated...

[Chorlton]

Im upset
I made 2 posts and Im not banned. I want to beat Lx

[hp]

Lex appears to be the test pilot for forums. He can give them a good shake down. ban lex = fail

[skunk]

Permanently ban lex = FAIL

[Bitchkoma]

HAHA good save :P

[pack3tg0st]

Im upset
I made 2 posts and Im not banned. I want to beat Lx

Get yourself banned from google...

:-)

[boycotteverything]

He wants the site run his way, with his agenda.Actually- I'd prefer that the site weren't 'run' at all and that it simply run itself with no 'agenda.' If that requires the elimination of mods whose only purpose is to harass members in the guise of 'troll de jour' then so be it. It seems that Warren has taken a step in this direction. 'Moderation' and 'free expression' are contradictions in terms.

[pack3tg0st]

They Got T&C now:

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1b.)Intellectual Property: You will provide proper attribution to the original source of all copyrighted material, and/or authors of copyrighted material.

1b.)Recruitment, or Solicitation: Don't do either.

1c.)Forums: post within forum topic outlines.

1d.)Spamming: Don't Spam, we are all old enough to figure out what that means.

1e.)Termination: We don't want to do this to anyone; should your account be terminated your posts stay on the site.

2.)Behavior: RESPECT is the rule here. We all want to be treated with respect; repeated instances of flat out harassing, threatening others, or attacking others can result in banning.

2a.)No forum gangs...simple RESPECT again.

2b.)Illicit Activity: Your responsible for your illicit activity. Think carefully through what you write; as the Federal Governments of the world read what is written.

2c.)Board Wars: Don't play that game; we are about learning, and awareness.

3.)Personal Responsibilities: At all times, you agree that all posts, images,and videos are your sole responsiblity, and that you agree to indemnify, and hold SHTF411.COM harmless from all claims, or demands, inclusive of reasonable attorney's fees, made by all thrid party arising out of any material you post, or transmit through the message board.

3a.)Do not attempt to access protected areas of the site, nor hack, bug, exploit, or any other changes to the site...

4.)SHTF411.COM is privately owned. We reserve the right to amend the site, or take actions deemed necessary for any member who is in violation of the Terms And Conditions, or as we see fit, for any reason. The premise, or original true to our core idea here is Freedom of Speech, and Expression without interruption, simply use RESPECT, and we will all get along; otherwise the ban button is a finger push away.[/offsite:1gfbgtzy]

[Bitchkoma]

BE, you know there's hardly any moderation here...

[skunk]

Two way street bud. You can't have your cake and eat it too, ie harass anyone you please on this forum.

Kind of hypocritical of you.

I don't know how you come up with these delusional ideas.

Kettle calling pot. Come in pot.

[pack3tg0st]

I don't think we really have "moderators" BE... just Administrators...

Someone has to take care of the menial day-to-day operational aspects of the forum... (ban bots, etc)

[hp]

Mike Singh banned from Bills. Wonder if shtf will introduce the BS subject expert.

[skunk]

BE, you know there's hardly any moderation here...

AmKon is clearly a highly repressive authoritarian prison gulag state with a group of supreme dictators at the head of government.

:twisted:

[skunk]

Someone has to take care of the menial day-to-day operational aspects of the forum... (ban bots, etc)

NO BANNINGS!!!! BOTS ARE PEOPLE TOO!

Seriously though, he wants his say, and I suppose that would mean he would have to be an admin also.

Bitch and moan, bitch and moan, all we hear from you Kim.

If you don't like how this site is run, you are more than welcome to leave. No one is listening to you.

[skunk]

1b.)Recruitment, or Solicitation: Don't do either.

?

[Chorlton]

Mike Singh banned from Bills. Wonder if shtf will introduce the BS subject expert.

Mike Singh deserves to be banned from everywhere for the crap he posts

[skunk]

Why ban him when you can debunk him in an open forum?

[hp]

1b.)Recruitment, or Solicitation: Don't do either.

Doing it here by telling us this stuff so people will return


2c.)Board Wars: Don't play that game; we are about learning, and awareness.

Right.

[pack3tg0st]

Chort:

“I have always been among those who believed that the greatest freedom of speech was the greatest safety, because if a man is a fool, the best thing to do is to encourage him to advertise the fact by speaking” ~Woodrow Wilson

Which of course is never complete without this...

“Quotation is a serviceable substitute for wit.”

Oscar Wilde

[Cogburn]

We're the experts in revealing the worst parts of human nature.


1.)Posting: You will not knowingly post false, or information as the truth. You won't use information obtained, or gathered from this website to harass, abuse, or harm other's; as we are about discussion. Yuck... but this defines the forum, so I guess your mileage may vary.


1b.)Intellectual Property: You will provide proper attribution to the original source of all copyrighted material, and/or authors of copyrighted material.
We can all use search engines, and it's much more fun when you bust someone committing plagiarism.


1b.)Recruitment, or Solicitation: Don't do either.Too vague. You're setting yourself up to be Bill Irvine. Let go, and if you give them a reason to stay, your users will surprise you.


2.)Behavior: RESPECT is the rule here. We all want to be treated with respect; repeated instances of flat out harassing, threatening others, or attacking others can result in banning. You cannot moderate respect. Don't bother to try or you set yourself up for failure. I think what you want is "civility". They are not the same thing.

Not a bad start.

Oh, and good for you for cleaning house, warren. Sometimes ego's are bruised, but if everyone wants what is best for the site they shouldn't whine too much. If they go away in a huff, never to return, it's just proof you made the right decision.

[Lexion]

I'm still banned.

How did you already get yourself banned? :lol:

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa20/Lexion07/Banned.jpg

:D

[skunk]

13 was a fun age.

[pack3tg0st]

Tact and Diplomacy eh?

still working on that diplomacy part?

[Lexion]

1e.)Termination: We don't want to do this to anyone; should your account be terminated your posts stay on the site.

Hell, I wasn't banned yet, and
my posts got deleted.

[Cogburn]

LOL @ the ban reason.

That's sig worthy.

[Lexion]

Tact and Diplomacy eh?

still working on that diplomacy part?

Guess I surpassed their "TruthSeeker"
and "Web Warrior" criteria.

:D

[skunk]

Continued unwillingness, that means you were uncooperative a first time?

[Cogburn]

Mind rape!

[boycotteverything]

meh

[pack3tg0st]

Tact and Diplomacy eh?

still working on that diplomacy part?

Guess I surpassed their "TruthSeeker"
and "Web Warrior" criteria.

:D

Truth seeking moisture missile?

Purple Helmet Web Warrior?

Now those sound more your speed.

[boycotteverything]

purple helmet web warrior, for sure.

[Cogburn]

I was just thinking "Willie the One Eyed Wonder Worm" and realized there's a Bill Irvine joke in there somewhere...

[skunk]

If only Amkon would follow your lead.

Face the facts. AmKon is the only place that allows you to say anything you want without fear of repercussions.

The only place that hasn't, or won't in the future, ban you permanently for something you've said.

You have nowhere else to go.

:twisted:

[boycotteverything]

I was just thinking "Willie the One Eyed Wonder Worm" and realized there's a Bill Irvine joke in there somewhere...that works

[hp]

Hell, Lex, you could have stayed at Bill's and got treated that well...

[Lexion]

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa20/Lexion07/rabbit.jpg

Stick it to the Man.

[pack3tg0st]

Working on that google banning yet lex?

lemme know if you need help LOL

I'll walk ya through it

[boycotteverything]

i was banned at google for over a year.

[Lexion]

Already told ya....I'm working on
Photobucket, atm.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa20/Lexion07/cupcakes_1_vw.jpg

One pr0n pic at a time.

[pack3tg0st]

google groups?

or from the search engine itself? LOL

looks like BE might have one you don't have yet lex...

[Lexion]

He's had a bit more practice.

:D

[hp]

Would make a nice avatar

[Lexion]

Would make a nice avatar

wow


*thinks about it

[hp]

What exactly is the 'Council' over there, the management?

[boycotteverything]

my ip was banned there until recently. what that showed me is how far that evil borg has insinuated itself into the net in general. it forced me to rely on an anonymous proxy to visit hundreds of sites- including this one. don't underestimate the power of those bastards.

[Eyeforalie]

King=Bill

if not, I will apologize. I'm pretty sure though. Whoever it is, I've talked before with him. He's a cunt. All he can say is "I'll ban you"

I respond "do it and I'll proxy up"

throwin weight around.

Ahh well. I have an army over there now. Actually some cool peeps there. The chat sucks tho.

[Lexion]

What exactly is the 'Council' over there, the management?

Those are the people wielding :

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa20/Lexion07/banhammer.jpg

[hp]

Google can't ban your IP from here.

[boycotteverything]

King=BillEvidence? Just a hunch? Please explain.

[Lexion]

King=Bill

Meh, I said that on page one.

Someone brought up a great point, though.

That mentality is pretty much all they know.

They will either free their minds, or continue
down the same path.

To answer BE. it's a hunch.

The guy acts just like Bill.

[boycotteverything]

Google can't ban your IP from here.that 'amkon' is a query i'm guessing. somehow they did it. i blame US IC ops for it- Pandolfi and Green in particular- it was plain and simple harassment.

[boycotteverything]

King=Bill

Meh, I said that on page one.

Someone brought up a great point, though.

That mentality is pretty much all they know.

They will either free their minds, or continue
down the same path.

To answer BE. it's a hunch.

The guy acts just like Bill.They'll grow just as we did. And by now I'm guessing you're no-longer banned. ...at least it would greatly surprise me if you still were.

[Eyeforalie]

I'll post everything when I'm off of work.

I was a member of bills.

"that is all they know" is a cheap cop-out.

[warrenb]

And............................

oh thats right, forgot about that, I'm still cleaning up after King

:?

ok unbanned



King=Bill

actually King = young, just a guesstimate but max 25 yrs old (based on skype video)

[boycotteverything]

I'll post everything when I'm off of work.

I was a member of bills.

"that is all they know" is a cheap cop-out.OK. Looking forward to it, Eyeman. Your cheap cop-out comment is very true. It is not 'all they know' as evidenced by Warren's remarks here. I'd say give them the small courtesy of a chance. I see great promise there.

[Lexion]

Well, whatta ya know ?

They unbanned me.

Must have done it in the last
hour or so.

Edit to add : Thanks Warren.

[pack3tg0st]

lol these guys were members for YEARS and years...

now they want to "stick it to bill" somehow... and this is their way of doing it.

I like our way better...

Criminal Anarchy FTW!

Keep watching :)

[skunk]

Amkon is about as democratic as a dictatorship can be.

[Cogburn]

You mean the dictator that forgets to pay the pills?

More like a banana republic.

[boycotteverything]

Well, whatta ya know ?

They unbanned me.

Must have done it in the last
hour or so.

Edit to add : Thanks Warren.restore your faith in human progress a bit? hahahaha

[skunk]

oh thats right, forgot about that, I'm still cleaning up after King


Thanks warren for clearing that up.

[hp]

Ya got your serious stick it to bill people and you got your pud knockers.

[Bitchkoma]

actually King = young, just a guesstimate but max 25 yrs old (based on skype video)

Ah... first time being an admin? I understand. We experienced a first-time admin on powertrip once, too. But that's all sorted out after a good virtual spanking in the sooper-sekret special admins only forum.

God dammnit so hard to post..


At least one new post has been made to this topic. You may wish to review your post in light of this.

Again and again..

NyaahhHH!! 4 times wtf?


5 times gagagagagagahhajoasafjksg ;/ewufoq fj
awlc

[boycotteverything]

actually King = young, just a guesstimate but max 25 yrs oldwe're familiar with the problem of sophomores in senior positions too.

[skunk]

What about seniors in sophomore positions?

[Bitchkoma]

Hey warren that avvie of yours reminds me of this excellent yet discontinued webcomic: http://www.blastwave-comic.com/index.php?p=comic&nro=1

Edit: you two knock it off before I dispense more virtual spankings.

[boycotteverything]

Edit: you two knock it off before I submit to more spankings.fixt

[Bitchkoma]

That does kind of sound appealing. Wait, let me call the teacher.

[Eyeforalie]

What exactly were the changes and who can I go to to solve these issues now? Can my threads be opens back up?

Eye=younger then king. Still a poor excuse. Sorry. Meh, everyone makes mistakes. Takes a true man to admit it.

Sorry for being wrong about his ID. Fundementaly the same tho.

[Cogburn]

... and that's about as close as we get to a group hug.

[pack3tg0st]

Did I make it back in time for the circle jerk?

[warrenb]

Hey warren that avvie of yours reminds me of this excellent yet discontinued webcomic: http://www.blastwave-comic.com/index.php?p=comic&nro=1
.

Now that is some cool artwork and story meatiness I can sink my canines into...

thanks for the link, looks pretty sweet

Meh

:smokin:

[warrenb]

wouldnt mind doing some free advertising for them, if they had some images to use

[boycotteverything]

Did I make it back in time for the circle jerk?you're always in the middle of the circle jerk. don't worry your pretty little head.

[pack3tg0st]

I thought mojo was the pivotman...

he is curious after all.

[boycotteverything]

mojo is the wide receiver

[pack3tg0st]

:lol:

There are so many different ways to take that comment...

Ah, beautiful complexity lol

[boycotteverything]

hahaha every team has one, ya know.

[Evening]

Its been an interesting show amkonites, when does act II begin?

[pack3tg0st]

Act II?

Guess I'm lost...

either that or you think we have some sort of devious intent...

meh

[Evening]

Nah, just read the thread and was waiting for more rapier wit.

[boycotteverything]

rapier wit? over here it's called 'wank thy neighbor.' we are what we are- flaws and all.

[Evening]

I see a ton of intelligent folks, at least what appears to be intelligence. I could be mistaken and often am.

[Chorlton]

Nah, just read the thread and was waiting for more rapier wit.

I'll be back soon
Im having a wank

[Evening]

whats a wank? be very descriptive.

[Chorlton]

Choking the chicken
The five finger widow
bashing the bishop
Hand Shandy

[skunk]

:pound:

[boycotteverything]

I see a ton of intelligent folks, at least what appears to be intelligence. I could be mistaken and often am.yeah- well- intelligent folks realize that act 2 is a work in progress. i think you're confusing us with people who actually give a shit.

[warrenb]

http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt264/Hx3_1963/Iconic%20Library/Smiley%200-B/angeldevilseesaw.gif?t=1256837177

[boycotteverything]

Choking the chicken
The five finger widow
bashing the bishop
Hand Shandy
bashing the bishop??? jesus...

[Chorlton]

Y'know BE
I think you'd look cool with a Mohican cut

[skunk]

:pound: :pound: :pound: :pound: :pound: :pound: :pound:

[boycotteverything]

Y'know BE
I think you'd look cool with a Mohican cutthat's a bishop bashing too far. even for me.

[skunk]

warren do you have any members at shtf from utah?

[Evening]

I see a ton of intelligent folks, at least what appears to be intelligence. I could be mistaken and often am.yeah- well- intelligent folks realize that act 2 is a work in progress. i think you're confusing us with people who actually give a shit.

Do you think so? I'm not really all that confused. Some of you on this particular thread are very clever individuals. Its refreshing.

[Chorlton]

Fuck off
I'm the only clever Individual here
And I'm as daft as a bucket of eels

[boycotteverything]

Do you think so? meh

[Evening]

You Fuck Off. Hatefulness is next to ...... um, something really bad!

[Lexion]

Its refreshing.

New header !!!!

AmKon - It's Refreshing !!

:D

[Evening]

I claim all credit and monetary disbursements for this original idea. Thank you.

[pack3tg0st]

LOL amkon operates off member donations...

not a single ad anywhere.

[Evening]

shit

[hp]

I claim all credit and monetary disbursements for this original idea. Thank you.

Your mistaking this place for Bill's Click Stop and Virus Emporium

[Lexion]

Intermission.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa20/Lexion07/take_the_stairs_.gif

[Lexion]

warren do you have any members at shtf from utah?

Holy BatBait !!!

[Chorlton]

Gonna have to go and crack one off now Lex

[pack3tg0st]

another one chort?

didn't you just finish?

[Chorlton]

I'm multi orgasmic

[Evening]

Ok then. How many of you think that a well hated conspiracy site we all know sheds its members to start offshoot sites? Head count please.

[Chorlton]

I dont think thats a nice thing to say about Amkon !

[Lexion]

Ok then. How many of you think that a well hated conspiracy site we all know sheds its members to start offshoot sites? Head count please.

That didn't take long.

Shed ?

More like piss the fuck off with
censorship.

And, we're no offshoot.

We're on a different farm.

[Evening]

Isn't this thread about deleted threads at shtf? I believe it is.

[pack3tg0st]

I don't think its intentional that they do that...

I think driving everyone away is just a side effect of Bill's ego and capitalist greed...

[Cogburn]

It's about whatever the next poster says.

Welcome to AmKon.

[boycotteverything]

Eve- let's stop with the coy horseshit. what's your fucking point?

[Lexion]

Isn't this thread about deleted threads at shtf? I believe it is.

Started out that way.

Why do you ask ?

[warrenb]

warren do you have any members at shtf from utah?

whats the IP range?

[Evening]

It's about whatever the next poster says.

Welcome to AmKon.

Thanks, that was nice.

Next poster? :alien:

[hp]

Ok then. How many of you think that a well hated conspiracy site we all know sheds its members to start offshoot sites? Head count please.
Are you stating that it is a plan that ties to his last post about sites and advertising?

[hp]

warren do you have any members at shtf from utah?

whats the IP range?
Bet that depends on the network.

[Evening]

Lexion, I ask because I heard a rumor that Bill's site sheds members to start offshoot sites. SHTF for example. You folks say you've been around the block, I read the entire thread and stated previously that I believe there are some very intelligent folks here of whom I am asking opinions.

edited for grammar check. fuck the spelling

[warrenb]

Intermission.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa20/Lexion07/take_the_stairs_.gif

Yum!




...

King is that you?

:alien:

[boycotteverything]

Thanks, that was nice.

Next poster? :alien:that would be me...

and the post in question is this-

Eve- let's stop with the coy horseshit. what's your fucking point?

[hp]

loosing customers isn't in his business plan, it is in his management style.

[pack3tg0st]

Eve... its very very very very difficult to get banned here...

say whatever you will, however you will...

we can take it...

can you?

[Evening]

[quote]Thanks, that was nice.

Next poster? :alien:that would be me...

and the post in question is this-

Eve- let's stop with the coy horseshit. what's your fucking point?[/quote:vyndn7oj]

Sorry you missed it, its above the titties

[pack3tg0st]

loosing customers isn't in his business plan, it is in his management style.

I don't think he cares as long as the clicks keep coming in...

[pack3tg0st]

Sorry you missed it, its above the titties

I call BULLSHIT!

There is nothign of value above the titties...

everyone knows that...

right lex?

<---hides

[Evening]

Eve... its very very very very difficult to get banned here...

say whatever you will, however you will...

we can take it...

can you?

I won't know till I find out. But I'm here. I'm here because you make sense. I like that. If my skin is thin, it'll grow thicker or I'll quit. No problem. I am not a quitter however, I'm a really nice person with lots of questions.

[boycotteverything]

[quote]Thanks, that was nice.

Next poster? :alien:that would be me...

and the post in question is this-

Eve- let's stop with the coy horseshit. what's your fucking point?

Sorry you missed it, its above the titties[/quote:seisvroi]oh yeah. sorry, i was distracted.

[Cogburn]

Anything of value on a woman is usually located below the nose.

[boycotteverything]

I am not a quitter however, I'm a really nice person with lots of questions.well ask away then. like i've said many times before- we'll tell you the truth whether we know it or not.

[Evening]

Perfectly understandable boycotteverything. but back to the question? Do you have an opinion?

[Lexion]

Anything of value on a woman is usually located below the nose.

I was gonna say something similar.

:D

[pack3tg0st]

Anything of value on a woman is usually located below the nose.

:lol:

wait till eris surfs in here and sees that lol

[warrenb]

@pack3tg0st
Kudos on your post here (http://shtf411.com/connecting-ats-to-the-department-of-defense-t569s120-p5446.html)

some interesting tidbits (http://shtf411.com/connecting-ats-to-the-department-of-defense-t569s120-p5446.html#p5076) in that post about your exchange with billy bob

8)

juicy goodness

[hp]

Ethics isn't the strong suit over there

[Evening]

And no, I'm not King. But I am a member of shtf and ats and other forums if this helps your paranoia at all.

[Cogburn]

Anything of value on a woman is usually located below the nose.

:lol:

wait till eris surfs in here and sees that lol
We share the same opinion.

[boycotteverything]

@pack3tg0st
Kudos on your post here (http://shtf411.com/connecting-ats-to-the-department-of-defense-t569s120-p5446.html)

some interesting tidbits (http://shtf411.com/connecting-ats-to-the-department-of-defense-t569s120-p5446.html#p5076) in that post about your exchange with billy bob

8)

juicy goodnessif chomsky already said it- why bother with a reformulation by a lightweight?

[Lexion]

Anyway, to try and answer Eve.

Jasn created this asylum for the
wayward folk who spoke their minds,
expressed their thoughts and were
trampled for doing so.

I likened it to an orphanage, once.
(can't find that fucking post)

We're bastard children who question
and defy authority.

And, we became family.

We've been at each others throats,
patted each other on the back, mourned
others losses, and rejoiced at their
triumphs.

AmKon is more about the people than
any news story.

[Evening]

Anything of value on a woman is usually located below the nose.

:lol:

wait till eris surfs in here and sees that lol
We share the same opinion.

The same sentiment is true of men. Lets not be coy.

[Evening]

Ethics isn't the strong suit over there

True.