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GeneralStriker
10-16-2009, 05:40 PM
This thing is starting to look like the 10th plague. Turn off Alex Jones and that Fox News douchebag and protect your kids.


WASHINGTON - Even as swine flu infections are causing an unprecedented amount of illness for this time of year — and a growing number of deaths, particularly among children — supplies of vaccine to protect against it will be delayed, government health officials said Friday.

In the past week, 11 more children have died from H1N1 influenza infections, an official from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said, bringing the total to 86 children since April. That's a startling number because in some past winters, the CDC has counted 40 or 50 child deaths for the entire flu season — and no one knows how long this swine flu outbreak will last.

"These are very sobering statistics," said Dr. Anne Schuchat, the CDC's director of immunization and respiratory diseases.http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33345714/ns/health-kids_and_parenting/

lala
10-16-2009, 06:29 PM
I don't know how they get there figures. . . . but kids have been dying from the "flu" for years . . . it not any worse that it normally is . . .but one thing, most have underlying problems or other conditions and the mix is what takes them out . . .but I wouldn't recommend the jab!!!!

[offsite:zy5myush]Influenza-associated pediatric deaths received considerable attention last year, prompting the CDC to request state and local health departments to report influenza-associated deaths in persons less than 18 years of age. As of May 31, 2004, 152 “influenza-associated deaths” in children had been reported by 40 states. [iv] Most of the children who died in last year's flu season were younger than 5 years of age. Because no similarnational data were collected previously, whether this numberof pediatric deaths represents a change from previous seasons is unknown. [v]
http://www.whale.to/a/ten12.html[/offsite:zy5myush]

boycotteverything
10-16-2009, 06:34 PM
.but I wouldn't recommend the jab!!!! yeah, well.. ya gotta admit it beats the hell outa prayer.

Lexion
10-16-2009, 06:39 PM
I've no prob with people getting it.

My wife will, as she does every year.

I won't, as I don't every year.
I fucking hate needles.

Those that bitch saying Big Pharma
is after money can't see beyond their
dicks.

Big Pharma sells the vaccine. Their
money is up front.

After that, why should they care if
10 billion people take it, or it sits on
a shelf.

Much ado about nothing.

boycotteverything
10-16-2009, 06:44 PM
i hear ya. i hate needles too and i won't get it either. but we're old enough to have some immunity it seems. the kids are defenseless. plus they like needles. so it's all good.

Cogburn
10-16-2009, 06:50 PM
http://svn2.assembla.com/svn/4chansvn/paranoia.jpg

Foxtrot Oscar
10-16-2009, 08:13 PM
Had it... Not dead.

Fox

captainkiwi
10-16-2009, 08:17 PM
Infect the mind and the body will follow :idea:

Eyeforalie
10-16-2009, 08:27 PM
I know a few that have had it now.

It's actually more mild then the regular flu.

Maybe the flu wouldn't spread so fast if people didn't activly spread it.

I don't get the shots because, well, they are bad for you. Drink enough water durring the winter months and everything is alll good.

And it's bullshit to vaccinate your kids. It's only setting them up no need the shots in the future.

Point blank, flu shots spread flu.

boycotteverything
10-16-2009, 08:41 PM
Had it... Not dead.

FoxThat's encouraging!

Alessandra
10-16-2009, 10:15 PM
Im not getting it. If I get the flu, I'll fuckin get over it. I'll stay at home, and then in a week, I'll be fine.

I call shenanigans

Cogburn
10-17-2009, 12:38 AM
Everyone treating H1N1 like it's Captain Trips is really getting old.

I want DOOM!

7]qN8kUGETTFA7]

Royal
10-17-2009, 03:01 AM
As stated, I live in San Diego. I went to a primarily Hispanic gym and did almost all the wrong moves to get swine flu (I.E. sat down on toilet seat without cover). Did not get anything. It's not highly contagious and bogus. Although, friends of friends have got thee h1n1.

I can see the perpetrators making a more vicious strain and leaving the people who didn't get the vaccination shit out of luck.

lala
10-17-2009, 03:31 AM
.but I wouldn't recommend the jab!!!! yeah, well.. ya gotta admit it beats the hell outa prayer.


My kids gargle hydrogen peroxide . . . never gets past 2 days, then gone . . . :batman:
No prayers here :thegeneral:

torbjon
10-17-2009, 03:44 AM
interesting group of people, they've been around a while.

http://www.vaccinationnews.com/

Here's a chat from 2002, nothing to do with current hoopla (http://www.vaccinationnews.com/Scandals/Feb_22_02/Scandal5.htm)

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BE:

your "kids are defenseless" line is a sack o' crap... brush up on your biology, 'kay?

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et. al.

you all know how this shit works, right? A vaccine is a controlled dose of a bacteria, virus, or toxin. It is given in the HOPES that your natural immunity system will Learn how to deal with said bit of nastiness and then be better able to deal with it if it should ever encounter it again. It's a good Theory, and there's been a pretty good success rate for Some Toxins, but there's No Guarantees the things will work, and they Don't Work on the Vast Amount of ailments that afflict us.

In general, people are really weird and stupid when it comes to 'bacteria'... alla the anti-bacterial cleansing crap, getting mega doses of antibiotics the Second you spike a bit a of a fever, etc. bah.

Apparently, they don't teach folks about the insane amounts of Normal Flora we have a symbiotic relationship with. These little 'nasties' are Required for our good health and are actually Part Of our immunity system. This will probably give some folks the creepy crawlies:




Normal flora are the microbes, mostly bacteria, that live in and on the body with, usually, no harmful effects to us. We have about 10(to the 13) cells in our bodies and 10(to the 14) bacteria, most of which live in the large intestine. There are 10(to the 3) – 10(to the 4) microbes per cm2 on the skin (Staphylococcus aureus, Staph. epidermidis, diphtheroids, streptococci, Candida, etc.). Various bacteria live in the nose and mouth. Lactobacilli live in the stomach and small intestine. The upper intestine has about 10(to the 4) bacteria per gram; the large bowel has 10(to the 11) per gram, of which 95–99% are anaerobes (An anaerobe is a microorganism that can live without oxygen, while an aerobe requires oxygen.) or bacteroides. The urogenitary tract is lightly colonized by various bacteria and diphtheroids. After puberty, the vagina is colonized by Lactobacillus aerophilus that ferment glycogen to maintain an acid pH.

Normal flora fill almost all of the available ecological niches in the body and produce bacteriocidins, defensins, cationic proteins, and lactoferrin all of which work to destroy other bacteria that compete for their niche in the body.

Above Quote From Here, read the whole thing; Inane, Adaptive, Hormonal, should know how your bodies work (http://uhaweb.hartford.edu/BUGL/immune.htm#innate)

I have very mixed feelings about the whole "let's infect our entire population with some nasties in the hopes that that will make them better" thing... For some people and some nasties, it seems to work... for others, not so cool. The Mandatory stuff really bothers me... especially with the newer ones... don't like it that they use my kid as a test subject... hate it even more that my kid HAS to get this latest flu vaccine if she wants to go to public school, but the New York Supreme Court just put out a restraining order saying that health care workers in that state Don't have to get it as it violates their human rights. (An actual hearing is scheduled for October 30th, should be interesting)

Linky Dink to news article (http://wcbstv.com/breakingnewsalerts/mandatory.h1n1.vaccine.2.1252672.html)

If educated Health Care Providers are afraid to get it, why should my kid be forced to get it?

bah.

Chorlton
10-17-2009, 05:03 AM
When my daughetr was a toddler, we let her play outside in the garden, making mud pies, eating worms (hey its protein and its free) let her pick up and eat sweets when she dropped them, same as I did when I was a kid. She's never had a cold or flu in her life and is as fit as a butchers dog, so many of her friends in school have flu and colds and she just doesnt get them.

Normal Flu in the EU kills many many thousands of people every winter, this Swine flu seems to be a wonderfull advertising coup for certain vaccine makers.

torbjon
10-17-2009, 05:18 AM
Chorlton:

I hear you comrade, dirt is good.

here's an off topic sidebar, from a chat with some friends in the medical community.

MRSA (a staff infection) has been around for ages. Really Nasty MRSA was primarily confined to hospitals. In recent decades here in the states, hospital workers have been becoming more and more lax in their standard operating procedures and have been wearing their Scrubs home from work. (they used to change out of their scrubs into street clothes before leaving the hospital). I remember MY folks wearing their scrubs home from work. My ex wife remembers Her folks wearing scrubs home from work, and without even thinking about it too hard, I can recall over two dozen other health care professionals who routinely wear their work clothes Outside the work environment...

and Nasty MRSA has been on a steady uprise here in the states these past years...

I'm sure there's absolutely No Connection between the two though.

I REALLY gotta hit the sack now.
laters
twj

1972
10-17-2009, 10:44 AM
PT Barnum

Gunter
10-17-2009, 11:48 AM
and Nasty MRSA has been on a steady uprise here in the states these past years...Maybe you should eat more dirt then. An ounce of prevention you know... But really- in this ongoing battle between medical science and voodoo- I vote for science.

1972
10-17-2009, 11:56 AM
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you, Gandalf the Grey.

Eyeforalie
10-17-2009, 11:57 AM
Cherry popped.

Hmmm...Thats 2 in the last 12 hrs
:pound:

skunk
10-17-2009, 12:59 PM
You didn't pop anyone's cherry. Its another one of be's socks.

1972
10-17-2009, 01:16 PM
I thought his socks would hovering over Denver in a balloon with a dead baby?

boycotteverything
10-17-2009, 01:28 PM
the young ufonaut turns out not be too dead afterall.

Eyeforalie
10-17-2009, 01:32 PM
Another?!

Jeezuz man.

Smoke some herbs and chill out.

skunk
10-17-2009, 01:35 PM
How many is that now, 6?

1972
10-17-2009, 02:07 PM
He is not a number, he is a crazy man!

skunk
10-17-2009, 02:39 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

skunk
10-17-2009, 02:42 PM
I guess you can't put a number on crazy, eh?

1972
10-17-2009, 02:45 PM
1972 has no comment or comeback.

skunk
10-17-2009, 02:47 PM
I'd rather be a birther truther than that guy wow.

Gotta feel sorry for a sad, grumpy, old man.

boycotteverything
10-17-2009, 02:52 PM
you'll never get over being the runt of the litter, eh?

1972
10-17-2009, 02:54 PM
Did you say runt or cunt?

skunk
10-17-2009, 02:56 PM
I like runts, they're pretty tasty.

skunk
10-17-2009, 02:56 PM
Cunts are also nice.

Chorlton
10-17-2009, 02:58 PM
Not as nice as Lama labia, I bet

guinnessford
10-17-2009, 03:19 PM
As long as its not Llama Labia....

Chorlton
10-17-2009, 03:22 PM
Well you now know what all those companies are saying with LLC after their names
Thats the Lama Labia Collective

boycotteverything
10-17-2009, 03:22 PM
that guy wouldn't know a llama from a wicket.

guinnessford
10-17-2009, 03:23 PM
Its all so clear to me now...

For I am the gatekeeper... and you are the keeper of the cheese!

boycotteverything
10-17-2009, 03:24 PM
and a pig farmer to boot

guinnessford
10-17-2009, 03:52 PM
Swine flu farmer?

Alessandra
10-17-2009, 04:08 PM
Did I miss my turn for the insanity shot? seriously, what the fuck is going on here?! O_O

guinnessford
10-17-2009, 04:10 PM
Bat shit crazy....

boycotteverything
10-17-2009, 04:28 PM
...with a side of llama labia sauteed in clarified yak butter.

guinnessford
10-17-2009, 05:13 PM
YUMMY!!!!!

Alessandra
10-18-2009, 02:21 AM
*backs away slowly*

Lexion
10-19-2009, 12:38 PM
*backs away slowly*

Guess where I'm standing ?

boycotteverything
10-19-2009, 12:41 PM
in a pot of llama labia stew?

Chorlton
10-19-2009, 12:47 PM
Gotta be better than Possum n Grits

boycotteverything
10-19-2009, 12:54 PM
looks like you know them Louisiana boyz. bet he drowned it in tobasco too.

http://www.robertyounger.com/Justin%20Wilson.jpg
hoooo boy! dat hot!

lala
10-23-2009, 04:13 AM
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boycotteverything
10-23-2009, 11:22 AM
looks like this is gonna help her cheerleading career as far as i can tell. goooooooooo redskins!!!

Chorlton
10-23-2009, 11:35 AM
I was offered a swine flu shot at the Doctors today
Just replied "Sorry I havent got any swine" and departed.
Buggered if I want a jab.

boycotteverything
10-23-2009, 11:40 AM
it's not so much that you're potential victim as much as it's because you're a carrier.

Eyeforalie
10-23-2009, 01:18 PM
Milwaukee is turning away people waiting the at the clinic for the shot. Not enough of em'.

This situation is ludacris.

Terrorism at it's finest.

boycotteverything
10-23-2009, 02:10 PM
Ludacris is terrorism at its finest.

Cogburn
10-23-2009, 04:02 PM
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Alessandra
10-24-2009, 01:24 AM
*backs away slowly*

Guess where I'm standing ?


*facepalm*

pack3tg0st
10-24-2009, 04:02 PM
Fox News

There's an Oxymoron for ya.

boycotteverything
10-24-2009, 04:10 PM
damn! the General's quoting Fox News?? show me the link and i'll bust his skinny ass.

pack3tg0st
10-24-2009, 04:11 PM
no, it was from the OP that says "turn off alex jones and that guy on fox news"...

boycotteverything
10-24-2009, 04:17 PM
hahahah that guy. all those guys.

Ducky
10-24-2009, 05:13 PM
Few observations regarding 'seasonal flu shots' and h1n1 shots:

1. The media has been fear mongering and hyping to have almost everyone to get this so-called flu shot. Sensationalism is basking in its glory right now.
2. The flu shot isn't/hasn't 'proven' to be effective.
3. The flu shot has been 'pushed' on the populous.
4. Many reprecusions/extreme physical ailments are coming about to our awareness. The axiom: "One in a million(?) might exhibit side affects" seems to be extreme a number. It's actually more than that statiscally. With the cases cropping up on a daily basis, I would be so inclinded to say: "One in every 1000" imho.
5. The flu shot contains a LOT of poisonous substances. Why comprimise an adults' immune system with that shit, let alone give it to children who haven't fully developed their Immune systems yet? LET ALONE...force anyone's body to adjust to the already pervailling poisons contained in the flu shot.
6. RE: Point #2 & 3 - Why the sudden need to push forward a seemingly toxic substance that hasn't been fully tested?

By now, this so-called swine flu should have permeated a LOT of international borders, and reported cases brought into light. It's here in Canada, in the US and.....(ground zero)...MEXICO.

That takes care of ALL of NORTH AMERICA.

I remember starting a thread (NOW lost in the apeci era) concerning a 'global de-populization' topic (Dec/09) This was the first thing that came to mind when I thought of the Swine flu and the shots.

pack3tg0st
10-24-2009, 05:15 PM
Meh, I don't think there's really anything more devious behind it than someone making a buck off of people's fear...

Someone has to pay for all those flu shots... and that money has to go somewhere...

only this year, we get TWO shots... 1 for H1N1 and another for seasonal flu...

Instant doubling of profits...

Ducky
10-24-2009, 05:20 PM
Meh, I don't think there's really anything more devious behind it than someone making a buck off of people's fear...

Someone has to pay for all those flu shots... and that money has to go somewhere...

only this year, we get TWO shots... 1 for H1N1 and another for seasonal flu...

Instant doubling of profits...

Would you go so far to say...all this shit is 'for nought' in the end? And some bastard(s) are making a pretty penny off of us...YET ONCE AGAIN...taking advantage of us?

Ducky
10-24-2009, 05:25 PM
Somewhere, somehow, some people are recording all the FUCKIN SHIT that the guv does and has been doing to deceive mankind.

"Woe unto these individuals, for I say that karma is a bitch, and it will hit these people in the face 20 fold. And the meek shall inherit the earth"

pack3tg0st
10-24-2009, 05:29 PM
Would you go so far to say...all this shit is 'for nought' in the end? And some bastard(s) are making a pretty penny off of us...YET ONCE AGAIN...taking advantage of us?

That's a complicated question lol

Everything is for naught... Just most people don't realize this, or don't want to acknowledge it...

But, I'm sure there is a flu out there...

and I'm sure its a whopper...

but it sure as hell isn't the bubonic plague...