Chorlton
10-14-2009, 06:19 AM
This must have set a few tongues wagging
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1219425/Pictured-The-luminous-halo-shaped-cloud-captured-hovering-Moscow.html
RubyRocket
10-14-2009, 07:52 AM
Yep, that would freak me out.
Especially since I had a nightmare of saucers last night. I rarely have nightmares, let alone of alien invasion.
I was watching as an observer as a saucer flew through a plane in the sky, and it shattered into thousands of pieces of frozen metal to the ground.
There were thousands of them in the sky, and as one flew down just above the hood of a car, very fast, the car stopped and froze instantly with the driver inside.
Although I have seen Independence Day, I don't as a rule watch alien movies.
I barely frequent the alien online forums...so I have no clue where this nightmare came from.
cartoon
10-14-2009, 08:27 AM
...was it a dream or was it artbell...
Cogburn
10-14-2009, 09:51 AM
End of the world, courtesy of the onset of that infamous Russian winter.
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What Happened ? - During the early afternoon of Wednesday, 11 December 2003, a strange and unusual cloud formation occurred over the Mobile, Alabama area. The name..."Hole Punch Clouds".
Has it happened before ? Yes. A quick internet search quickly reveals a few strikingly similar past photos that were taken in south Florida, the Carolinas and even Australia and Canada. Therefore one can conclude that the phenomena has happened before, but on a relatively infrequent basis.
At what atmospheric level did this occur ? -A regional sounding (meteorological instrumentation that shows how temperature and moisture vary with height) taken near Valparaiso, Florida reveals a cloud layer between approximately 25,000 and 27,000 feet. The cloud layer was likely a few thousand feet lower according to a sounding taken further west over Slidell Louisiana near the time of sunset (not shown). Meteorologists refer to clouds at this level as 'cirro-form' clouds. Generically, these are termed 'high clouds.' However, the white puffy-like texture in the cloud deck that surrounds the "hole" possesses traits of both cirroform and cumulo-form clouds (which form at much lower altitudes). Cirroform clouds with a cumulus-like appearance are termed 'cirrocumulus' clouds.
What was the weather pattern that day ? - Although a large scale high pressure system was building in at the surface with northerly winds in progress, the "hole punch clouds" occurred at a much higher level in the atmosphere. Just above the cloud layer and at about 32,000 feet above ground level, the high level winds were blowing was from west to east over much of the US Deep South. The clouds were aligned along this rapidly flowing stream of air, known as the jet stream.
How does the hole occur in the clouds ? - The puffy clouds were likely composed of ice crystals and very small super-cooled liquid water droplets. Studies have shown that very small supercooled liquid water droplets can exist well below freezing (as low as -40 degrees (C, or Centrigrade) ). The temperature in the cloud layer was around -24 deg (C) at the time of occurrence. Sometimes...when ice and the supercooled liquid droplets coexist within a cloud...a process occurs whereby ice crystals grow at the expense of the droplets. If the mixed cloud is agitated...the supercooled droplets freeze instantaneously. It is understood through microphysical arguments that water vapor must evaporate from the surrounding supercooled droplets and flow towards the ice crystals. This would start a cycle whereby newly formed ice crystals cause the surrounding droplet to evaporate...resulting in a circular form void of clouds with a mass of crystals in the center. Many photos taken that day seem to represent this process.
What caused the disturbance to begin ? One possible explanation is a jet plane. Visible satellite imagery that day suggested several "hole punch" clouds over both southern Mississippi and Alabama. These coincided with jet contrails. Click here and you will see a photo of "hole punch" clouds taken in Australia with an airplane contrail nearby. An airplane passing through the mixed cloud layer while ascending or descending would likely disrupt the delicate coexistence between the ice crystals and the supercooled liquid water droplets. A second possible explanation is that small scale atmospheric vertical motions (both up and down) related to the jet stream brought ice crystals downward into the moist cloud layer, thus effectively 'setting off' the cyclic process described above.
One thing is for sure... Without an ability to directly measure these small scale vertical motions and the quantities of temperature and moisture directly within and adjacent to the actual clouds, we can only speculate on what caused this common but relatively infrequent awesome phenomena to occur !...
Acknowledgements - This page was contributed to by several members of the National Weather Service Staff in Mobile including: John Purdy (Forecaster in Charge), Gene Jacobi (Hyrdometeorological Technician), Don Shepherd (Journeyman Forecaster), Andy Stasiowski (Hyrdometeorological Technician), Jason Beaman (Intern Meteorologist), Gary Beeler (Warning Coordination Meteorologist) and Jeffrey Medlin (Science and Operations Officer).[/offsite:gik1u81k]
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