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KIWI
09-18-2009, 06:55 AM
this is for Pac....dood, close all your doors and windows and turn off your lights, turn your central heating up to full, break a few glow-sticks and place them strategically around the room, de-tune your radio so as to provide background hum...voila !!

...you are back at NORAD HQ,dozing quietly half way through your shift, when all of a sudden your head-phones crackle and you hear......... :arrow:

(there is no other available info on this clip, so Im relying on your "instinct" here man :batman: )


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Lexion
09-18-2009, 12:43 PM
At 24 secs...

"I kid you negative"

:lol:

Sounds like a couple HAM
operators fucking around.

Cogburn
09-18-2009, 02:14 PM
Seriously... isn't there ... stuff ... missing from that audio?

Sounds awfully clean for a conversation between ATC and a F-15, no?

KIWI
09-18-2009, 07:13 PM
agreed Lex and Cog,thanks.......but its Pac Im waiting for,where is the little devil? do you think the F15 pilot might be a local Reserve? hence the kinda un-millitary like RT procedure?......there is also a "tone" that comes in late in the clip, is that a diff ground operator keying in? , and I think there is at least 2 aircraft involved???

Lexion
09-18-2009, 07:17 PM
We listen to Mil traffic in Vent a
lot.

Guy has a scanner.

Sounds nothing like this.

KIWI
09-18-2009, 07:46 PM
We listen to Mil traffic in Vent a
lot.

Guy has a scanner.

Sounds nothing like this.

be interesting to see what the latest "equipment" is capable of, the OP is very "clean", grant you that, I spent a lot of time in commercial jump-seats,twice a week for about 15 months, HS 748's,always had a headset on, and was surprised at the clarity of the comms, compared to what I was used to in a maritime enviroment, if the OP is genuine(big "if" :) ) this event could have taken place directly above and around the ground station?.....making for the static -free result?

pack3tg0st
09-18-2009, 08:14 PM
hrm?

someone say my name?

porno?

hold on, let me catch up...

you brought scotch right?

KIWI
09-18-2009, 08:16 PM
face/palm

pack3tg0st
09-18-2009, 08:18 PM
Don't know man...

listening to the thing now...

clarity is about right from what I've heard...

as far as the "non-military" lingo you guys were talking about...

We only do that to impress civillians lol

The "tone" sounds like what happens when you key your mic while someone else is talking...

If these are the secure radios, they'll go "boop" when that happens...

If its fake, someone took some time to get it just right.

KIWI
09-18-2009, 08:24 PM
big sloppy cyber kiss for pac........Ive commissioed Lala to deliver at the "meating"..(insert evil face: HERE)

KIWI
09-18-2009, 08:26 PM
The "tone" sounds like what happens when you key your mic while someone else is talking...


like a Heterodyne?

pack3tg0st
09-18-2009, 08:40 PM
nah... the way that the encrypted radios are designed, you can't key the mic when an incoming transmission is present...

the small handheld ones for troops let out a "beeeeeep" (high pitched and irritating... especially with the earpiece in...)

the Larger ones for vehicles and such have a boooooop sound... lower tone and the likes... pretty similar to what's on the recording...

I don't know if the aircraft have something similar, but the tone made it sound like the guy recording was keying his mic while the other guy was talking.

KIWI
09-18-2009, 08:51 PM
cheers Pac, no half-sane fucker could expect any definitive result on this one, but thanks for putting it in perspective

pack3tg0st
09-18-2009, 08:58 PM
glad I could help?

lol

Not sure how much help I was...

but, yah...

anytime?

KIWI
09-18-2009, 09:08 PM
Pac.....hands up everyone who has worked in millitary tracking? ( insert tumbleweed and haunting wind here),


here ya go Lex......must be a test run on a new design?, who still flys F111's? {looks like the chase-plane?).... the Aussies just upgraded to the F18 a few years back, thought they were the last to have operational F111's?.....then again the clip could be that old.....not going that fast either with thje wings in forward config? subsonic?.....must be an organized event with the tracking gear thats recording it?...do you recognize the smaller craft?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paxAkDLKU88
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pack3tg0st
09-18-2009, 09:11 PM
looks more exciting than it really is lol

http://www.globalsecurity.org/space/facility/images/clear-afs_mwoc2.jpg

Stare at a friggan screen all day...

blip

OH SHIT there's one!

look at other screen...

Oh, thats just a satalite...

blip!

Oh shit! oh wait... Aircraft...

Blip! oh shit! North Korean test rocket...

KIWI
09-18-2009, 09:16 PM
dont try an shit us pac....we're onto your little game :thegeneral:

[attachment=0:4haaytjk]300Norad.jpg[/attachment:4haaytjk]

pack3tg0st
09-18-2009, 09:38 PM
Sorry Kiwi...

Operation "Ho and the fat man" is strictly G-14 classified...

KIWI
09-18-2009, 09:53 PM
no prob, I notice you inserted your "space-scout" training photo from 1972...... lucky I have a more recent one :shock:

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pack3tg0st
09-20-2009, 12:44 PM
LOL thats not what the MWOC looks like man...

The picture I posted is the "modern" picture...

before the mid 90's... there was the BMEWS...

The control room to that looked like this:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/space/systems/images/clear-afb_radar.jpg

http://www.globalsecurity.org/space/facility/images/clear-afs_mip1.jpg

Here's the exterior of the old "tech site" or BMEWS

http://www.geocities.com/~billev/wacs/bmews.jpg

The MWOC is from the new, handy dandy SSPARS system that replaced the old BMEWS

http://www.radomes.org/museum/photos/recent/ClearAFSFPS-123.jpg

I kind of wish I wasn't such a good "Troop" while I was in... the old Tech site was still up and standing while I was stationed at clear... The old control room was being dismantled and shipped to the smithsonian... it was the last in-tact cold war ballistic missile site...

We had all sorts of fun poking around and exploring the tech site... the friggan place was HUGE... we found all sorts of cool stuff... even a bomb shelter full of old C-rats...

Alas, all I have are external pictures that I managed to sneak... and not a single pic of the SSPARS... thats kinda classified...

anyway... military tech isn't as "james bond-ish" as people tend to think...

pack3tg0st
09-20-2009, 12:50 PM
Although, NORAD's control room and the HTACC/KCOIC at Osan look awefully James bondish

here is Norad:

http://911reports.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/norad20war20room.jpg

The first picture you posted was a photo of the CP @ NORAD...

edit: oh shit. I just found out that the old CP from Cheyenne is now the alternate CP... they moved all major operations to Peterson AFB last year...

Lexion
09-20-2009, 01:31 PM
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa20/Lexion07/norad1.jpg


Why are they watching CNN ?

:lol:

Edit to add the pic.

pack3tg0st
09-20-2009, 01:34 PM
lol its an inside joke lex... I'm sure you remember this...

CNN stands for "Classified News Network".

Sometimes, we learn about our troop movements from CNN before we hear about em through our chain of command lol

Lexion
09-20-2009, 01:37 PM
Yeah, I know.

Just thought I'd point it out.

:D

(I think that's Rick Sanchez and
their medical chick on one screen)

If so, pic is fairly recent.

pack3tg0st
09-20-2009, 01:43 PM
yah, its a recent pic...

But its not the area where I woulda worked...

that was the Command Post...

those were the guys we reported to lol