Ducky
09-10-2009, 06:01 PM
*Tossing some ideas about*
First of all, I just wanted to say that I can't prove the whole idea of reincarnation, but as there are quite a few instances out there, that 'lean towards' the possibility of this being true, I wanted to touch on this subject on a theoretical light. If there are atheists out there (and I'm sure there are countless ones on our board) please don't crucify me too much. I ALWAYS appreciate the wisdom you give, just give me my moment in the sun to try and explain and figure out a few things that have been plaguing me in the last while.
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You've probably heard this before: (paraphrased) "We are souls living in a physical body, when our bodies expire, the soul is released and goes elsewhere." Now whether this can be proven, is a matter on to it's own. And if science has its way, EVERYTHING will be eventually proven.
So in that respect, I'm putting the 'cart before the horse', in hopes of what I discuss, will somehow provide some iota of significance 'later', as well as the fact that we won't get caught with our pants down knowing squat diddly when and if the time comes that science can prove these things.
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Getting back to the Reincarnation notion, I was thinking about some ethereal ideas that could precede - the soul returning to earth for extra spiritual education.
The fact that reincarnation might exist (google your hearts out on this subject), what about
'before time' (meaning: where does the soul reside before it chooses it's next life)
IF, we are to have free-will (for all time?), doesn't it stand that this free-will should continue beyond our physical existance?
In other words, are we able to choose the lives we reincarnate into?
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'Free Will' may or may not very well be an illusion. Depending on the context within itself, and is another subject to discuss upon, but for this instance, I'll use the term in the loosest of connotations to deride the meaning on which I will convey.
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As we are constantly striving to get a fix on even the smallest of things in our lives; let alone the bigger problems that arise from time to time, is it possible that we've chosen (before hand) the very things we butt heads with in this timeframe, to better our spiritual growth?
And, for example, if this is the case, I've often wondered why souls would incarnate into handicapped bodies.
When I look at people that are mentally or physically handicapped, I think beyond the realms of these ailments, and try to the best of my abilities to understand what it would be like in 'their shoes'. These people are living examples of the possible outcomes towards anyone's spiritual growth.
A good example is what my son goes through. I won't touch on this further, as a lot of you have heard the scenerio in the past while, but wanted to convey my feelings on this matter, as it is a microcosm of the bigger picture.
If someone didn't know what it was like to experience 'the downtrodden', 'poor', 'handicapped', or any other mal informaties, for what purpose would it serve to LEARN these traits at every death....REBIRTH? Why would people subjugate themselves to what our society has deemed...a 'lesser life style'?
If the soul 'continues after death', and constantly strives to perfect itself via reincarnation, then where is the 'end goal'? What is the end goal? Is it something tangible that we can calculate through science, or is it beyond our reach at present. Is it GOD? (a symbology to represent the ultimate achievement) or is it an end to gloriously justify many beginnings?
What is the bigger picture?
I don't personally know.
Being spiritual in nature, it is my belief that there is more to this physical world that meets the eye. I'm sure I'm not the only one that thinks (believes) this as well.
During the course of my own personal research throughout the years, I've come to discover that 'nothing is by chance'. And that what we've accumulated (spiritual growth), flows along a certain path - unto our own, and meanders within and without other lives.
But before all that we see (physical form), before we took our first breaths on this planet, were we able to see what was before us?
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If the soul cries out...will we listen to it's/our needs?
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What IS our purpose on this earth?
* Success?
* Wealth?
* Power?
* Companionship?
* Love/hate/desire/fear/etc
And a myriad of many other emotions....
What do we hope to achieve in our lifetimes?
Countless questions that MANY have asked and will continue to ask.
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If YOU personally, could create YOUR LIFE...
What would you choose?
(To be continued...)
First of all, I just wanted to say that I can't prove the whole idea of reincarnation, but as there are quite a few instances out there, that 'lean towards' the possibility of this being true, I wanted to touch on this subject on a theoretical light. If there are atheists out there (and I'm sure there are countless ones on our board) please don't crucify me too much. I ALWAYS appreciate the wisdom you give, just give me my moment in the sun to try and explain and figure out a few things that have been plaguing me in the last while.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~
You've probably heard this before: (paraphrased) "We are souls living in a physical body, when our bodies expire, the soul is released and goes elsewhere." Now whether this can be proven, is a matter on to it's own. And if science has its way, EVERYTHING will be eventually proven.
So in that respect, I'm putting the 'cart before the horse', in hopes of what I discuss, will somehow provide some iota of significance 'later', as well as the fact that we won't get caught with our pants down knowing squat diddly when and if the time comes that science can prove these things.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~
Getting back to the Reincarnation notion, I was thinking about some ethereal ideas that could precede - the soul returning to earth for extra spiritual education.
The fact that reincarnation might exist (google your hearts out on this subject), what about
'before time' (meaning: where does the soul reside before it chooses it's next life)
IF, we are to have free-will (for all time?), doesn't it stand that this free-will should continue beyond our physical existance?
In other words, are we able to choose the lives we reincarnate into?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~
'Free Will' may or may not very well be an illusion. Depending on the context within itself, and is another subject to discuss upon, but for this instance, I'll use the term in the loosest of connotations to deride the meaning on which I will convey.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~
As we are constantly striving to get a fix on even the smallest of things in our lives; let alone the bigger problems that arise from time to time, is it possible that we've chosen (before hand) the very things we butt heads with in this timeframe, to better our spiritual growth?
And, for example, if this is the case, I've often wondered why souls would incarnate into handicapped bodies.
When I look at people that are mentally or physically handicapped, I think beyond the realms of these ailments, and try to the best of my abilities to understand what it would be like in 'their shoes'. These people are living examples of the possible outcomes towards anyone's spiritual growth.
A good example is what my son goes through. I won't touch on this further, as a lot of you have heard the scenerio in the past while, but wanted to convey my feelings on this matter, as it is a microcosm of the bigger picture.
If someone didn't know what it was like to experience 'the downtrodden', 'poor', 'handicapped', or any other mal informaties, for what purpose would it serve to LEARN these traits at every death....REBIRTH? Why would people subjugate themselves to what our society has deemed...a 'lesser life style'?
If the soul 'continues after death', and constantly strives to perfect itself via reincarnation, then where is the 'end goal'? What is the end goal? Is it something tangible that we can calculate through science, or is it beyond our reach at present. Is it GOD? (a symbology to represent the ultimate achievement) or is it an end to gloriously justify many beginnings?
What is the bigger picture?
I don't personally know.
Being spiritual in nature, it is my belief that there is more to this physical world that meets the eye. I'm sure I'm not the only one that thinks (believes) this as well.
During the course of my own personal research throughout the years, I've come to discover that 'nothing is by chance'. And that what we've accumulated (spiritual growth), flows along a certain path - unto our own, and meanders within and without other lives.
But before all that we see (physical form), before we took our first breaths on this planet, were we able to see what was before us?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
If the soul cries out...will we listen to it's/our needs?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What IS our purpose on this earth?
* Success?
* Wealth?
* Power?
* Companionship?
* Love/hate/desire/fear/etc
And a myriad of many other emotions....
What do we hope to achieve in our lifetimes?
Countless questions that MANY have asked and will continue to ask.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
If YOU personally, could create YOUR LIFE...
What would you choose?
(To be continued...)