Mars with a Blue Sky?

[Alessandra]

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars5/Viking_1/sir3lv5.jpg

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/
just curious as to whether or not this is real, or bungled somehow.

Oh wait, it mentions Lear. Well shit, that kind of answers my question.

well, I looked at what was on the front page. what a load of shit. Anyhow, I thought the image was rather neat. Mars with a blue Sky!

[Lexion]

Jesus girl !!!!

The Living Moon ??

C'mon.....you're better
than that !!

[Alessandra]

I know, I'm shamed.

[Cogburn]

We've done this quite a few times before. I'm sure a search of the forums will give you what you seek.

Basically, they sent a color calibration wheel up with the Mars rovers. Each of these pictures with a blue sky requires modification of the color spectrum of the images beyond that which is dictated by those color calibration targets mounted on the rover.

I could make the sky look green (and I think I did that once in some thread, too) but that doesn't mean that it is anything close to reality.

The mystery is that there is some color corruption of the images released by NASA, however that corruption is towards the yellow/green color range and not towards the red. The corruption itself is so minimal that the sky still looks pinkish-red.

[Alessandra]

No one will know, really, until we send some people up there.

edit to say: Sorry for posting this.

[Lexion]

edit to say: Sorry for posting this.

Don't be.

No joking or sarcasm.

It's just one way we learn.

[KIWI]

No one will know, really, until we send some people up there.

edit to say: Sorry for posting this.


sort it chii!....great post, nowt to apologise for there :smokin:

I found some of the latest images a few days back....they are very light on description......the quotes are from c-net
http://news.cnet.com/2300-11386_3-10001494-12.html?tag=mncol

This full HiRise image puts the cryptic terrain in a larger context, not that it helps us lay folk very much.


[attachment=2:16l7d00h]Mars2CrypticLong.jpg[/attachment:16l7d00h]

NASA says "interesting SHARAD feature." To which we might reply "spooky, even."

Sharad, by the way, stands for "shallow subsurface radar." One of six science instruments on the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter along with the HiRise camera, it uses radar waves within a 15- to 25-megahertz frequency band to penetrate up to 1 kilometer into the crust of Mars in the hunt for liquid or frozen water. We're not sure why a Sharad image is included with the HiRise pictures, but we like it anyway.

[attachment=1:16l7d00h]Mars2Sharad.jpg[/attachment:16l7d00h]

Once again, NASA's caption--"Seasonal Haloes and Fractal Patterns"--leaves much unsaid, and much to the imagination.


looks more like Callisto?
[attachment=0:16l7d00h]RPfractals.jpg[/attachment:16l7d00h]

[Alessandra]

wow, weird pics! thanks for sharing kiwi

[Lexion]

thanks for sharing kiwi

Did he wear a condom ?

[Alessandra]

thanks for sharing kiwi

Did he wear a condom ?


Go look in the toilet and see if its there

:lol:

[Lexion]

I only found a few socks stuck
together in the hamper.

:cry:

[Alessandra]

I only found a few socks stuck
together in the hamper.

:cry:
thats all kiwi then. WTF?

:lol:

[KIWI]

down Lex!... :lol:

here is an old Mariner shot ( I think its Mariner, lost the tag)......I posted it on your pre-Apaci mars thread last year 8)

have found lots of these circular looking shapes :?:

[attachment=0:160znm9w]martian night-club.gif[/attachment:160znm9w]

[Alessandra]

i have to lol at the title of the image... Martian night club...

Interesting, indeed!

I think the Mars lander images are still good tho?

[boycotteverything]

Arthur C. Clarke was convinced of the validity of photographic evidence of Martian vegetation. He was a pretty smart dude. Maybe he was correct.

[Lexion]

I think the bright white image
S.W. of the circle is more
interesting.

The circled area looks like a crater.

[boycotteverything]

More interesting than Martian vegetation? What planet are you from?

[Lexion]

I've never seen Martian vegetation.

[Alessandra]

its delicious

[boycotteverything]

http://www.xtl-ak.com/veg/b_m_4688_cr.jpg
Seen on Mars...


WASHINGTON -- Noted space visionary and writer, Sir Arthur C. Clarke, believes that new images of Mars clearly show the red planet dotted with patches of vegetation, including trees. Such a find may help spark a far grander space program more aligned with the adventure and exploration portrayed in the epic film, 2001: A Space Odyssey - the collaborative work of both Clarke and director Stanley Kubrick.

http://www.space.com/peopleinterviews/clarke_mars_010601.html

[KIWI]

....I agree, if it turns out John was right, and its all faked, I would still enjoy the tech involved and the time Ive spent with other like minded folk grovelling through it all.......until I am being lowered onto the surface of Mars, I will always have my doubts, and if for no other reason than I believe NASA has been telling fibs regards other matters, its very normal to question everything said once its known the source has lied before......I have a cool old book "THE EXPLORATION OF MARS" pub 1956 by Willy Ley, Werner Von Braun ,with Bonnestell, I graphic plates .....it is kind of sci-fi I guess as it was written a long time back......but of course these guys ,Ley and Von Braun were leaders in their fields,.......they make some very cryptic comments regard the Moon and Mars, I like reading "old data"...if for no other reson than the Beaver hates it :lol:

srsly, there was no WWW or that sort of thing back then, no Moon -shot to defend, these guys talked in a very open way about their ideas, nothing censored as such.......and although they could be said to be simply "musing" the possibillities
of certain things, they were not frivilous in their thoughts......they always had a scientific basis behind it.....love it 8)

[boycotteverything]

its very normal to question everything said once its known the source has lied beforeAn excellent and timely point given the hoax foodfight of the last few days.


but of course these guys ,Ley and Von Braun were leaders in their fields,.......they make some very cryptic comments regard the Moon and Mars,Arthur C. Clarke is no-one to fuck with either. All these guys were dreamers as well as scientists. Open minds dream to keep themselves open.

[boycotteverything]

I suppose I might have said that better: It's only our dreams that prevent or minds from closing.

[KIWI]

i have to lol at the title of the image... Martian night club...



...pays to not get to serious over all this (I need to remind myself constantly) you can get blinded to the subtleties of some things if you do, and miss some good shit...........remain seated and stay calm :lol:

after all, this is our lives passing by.....rule no 1..."peoplez of ze world.....relax!"

[Cogburn]

Meh...

Clarke, for all his contributions, has still been wrong more often than right. He's the leader of the Too Smart By Half Club, of which John Lear and Richard Hoagland are charter members.

The silence from such venues regarding the LROC images is deafening.

[KIWI]

Arthur C. Clarke is no-one to fuck with either. All these guys were dreamers as well as scientists. Open minds dream to keep themselves open.



my bad.....Arthur is brilliant....should have said.......greatly overlooked as he is associated more with sci-fi

[boycotteverything]

The silence regarding the LROC images is deafening.That may be because he's also quite dead.

[Cogburn]

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2241/facepalm2ic7copyrl2.jpg

[boycotteverything]

http://www.spectator.co.uk/article_images/articledir_502/251106/1_fullsize.jpg

[KIWI]

Meh...

Clarke, for all his contributions, has still been wrong more often than right. He's the leader of the Too Smart By Half Club, of which John Lear and Richard Hoagland are charter members.

The silence from such venues regarding the LROC images is deafening.


I dont see it as an "us" versus "them" thing...fuck LROC.....if you are right and I am wrong, no biggie....I will always defend my position from the point of ...."they have given me reason to be suspicious by their dis-jointed actions, over the top re-actions...(recent case being Gary Mckinnon)....and their continued ignorance and denial of the UFO question

[boycotteverything]

their continued ignorance and denial of the UFO questionI guess Ed Mitchell knocked their socks off on that one.

[Yex]

I think Arthur C Clarke was talking about these type of pictures

http://mmmgroup.altervista.org/marsbush2.jpg

http://mmmgroup.altervista.org/marstrees.jpg

There is also a larger pic seemingly showing "vegetation" here

http://mmmgroup.altervista.org/e1001841.html


Cheers,

Yex

Edit to add...fuck, the pics keep disappearing, found on this page... http://mmmgroup.altervista.org/e-trees.html

[Alessandra]

Nom Nom Nom I EETZ U, MARS VEGGIES

[KIWI]

I think the bright white image
S.W. of the circle is more
interesting.

.


thats Richard Hoagland trying to up-grade his tan :arg:

[boycotteverything]

I think Arthur C Clarke was talking about these type of pictures

http://mmmgroup.altervista.org/marsbush2.jpg

http://mmmgroup.altervista.org/marstrees.jpg

There is also a larger pic seemingly showing "vegetation" here

http://mmmgroup.altervista.org/e1001841.html


Cheers,

YexYes! Those are he ones. I couldn't find them.

[KIWI]

their continued ignorance and denial of the UFO questionI guess Ed Mitchell knocked their socks off on that one.


Ed rocks..... :woohoo:

[boycotteverything]

i still like cousin buzz too, though.

[KIWI]

great pic Yex.......Im never sure of the orientation with some of these, they can look quite different when viewed rotated

[KIWI]

i still like cousin buzz too, though.


yeah man.....hes like the "Yeager" of the space corp......as Bart found out :lol:

[Lexion]

Nom Nom Nom I EETZ U, MARS VEGGIES

I hear they are high in protein.

And can be found in WoW.

[Lexion]

http://mmmgroup.altervista.org/e1001841.html


Cheers,

Yex

Vett that pic ?

Taken from which craft ?

Scale ?

Any adjustments ?

Just asking.

[KIWI]

Nom Nom Nom I EETZ U, MARS VEGGIES

I hear they are high in protein.

And can be found in WoW.


you can get high on protein?.........killer :idea:

[Alessandra]

looks like i found something new to smoke.

edit: I made this sound dirty on purpose. :lol:

[Cogburn]

Exactly.

Check the scale of that pic and then check the height of those alleged "trees".

Damn I wish I could remember where all this information was....

If I remember correctly, based on the scale of those images those trees would be nearly 500ft tall with some having canopies nearly 1/4 mile in diameter.

... and, of course, it all disappeared ...

[Lexion]

looks like i found something new to smoke.

edit: I made this sound dirty on purpose. :lol:

Thanks for taking my fucking job.

[Alessandra]

no problem honey. :lol:

[KIWI]

[attachment=2:30zfo28w]New_flow_canyon[1].jpg[/attachment:30zfo28w]

[attachment=1:30zfo28w]ma030094.jpg[/attachment:30zfo28w]

[attachment=0:30zfo28w]MOC[1].gif[/attachment:30zfo28w]

[Lexion]

no problem honey. :lol:


Geez.....

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa20/Lexion07/hobo.jpg

[Cogburn]

Smite for KIWI for debunking those silly trees without a single word.

[Yex]

Vett that pic ?

Taken from which craft ?

Scale ?

Any adjustments ?

Just asking.

No idea on scale on the original pics above, which apparently from MGS according to space.com here

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/solarsystem/clarke_mars_banyon_010709-1.html

However this pic from MOC has scale added

http://mmmgroup.altervista.org/mars%20spots.jpg

Which they compare to a shot from aussie desert

http://mmmgroup.altervista.org/australia.jpg

Cheers,

Yex

[Alessandra]

your beer mug is empty, Lex.

[Lexion]

your beer mug is empty, Lex.

Never.

[KIWI]

Smite for KIWI for debunking those silly trees without a single word.


I think it only adds to the overall strangeness of that shot.......I have stared many times at, around, through, and over it (with my trusty mag glass also :roll: ) with the hope my own eyes, letting my focus drift about , can pick up a sense of unnatural manipulation with the sand-dune looking mass........I would much rather wish the peripheral features be trees :cry: , and I wouldnt knock anyone who suggested it without the benefit of a "fuller" shot.....still a very strange landscape, as to be expected I guess...it is frickin Mars after all.....or is it ? 8)

[Alessandra]

your beer mug is empty, Lex.

Never.

oi oi oi, cheers. Im thinking of having a jagerbomb or two...

[Lexion]

oi oi oi, cheers. Im thinking of having a Lexibomb or two...

fixt

[Alessandra]

lol, maybe after several Jagerbombs. j/k.

Teasingly,
Alessandra.

[boycotteverything]

Smite for KIWI for debunking those silly trees without a single word.


I think it only adds to the overall strangeness of that shot.......I have stared many times at, around, through, and over it (with my trusty mag glass also :roll: ) with the hope my own eyes, letting my focus drift about , can pick up a sense of unnatural manipulation with the sand-dune looking mass........I would much rather wish the peripheral features be trees :cry: , and I wouldnt knock anyone who suggested it without the benefit of a "fuller" shot.....still a very strange landscape, as to be expected I guess...it is frickin Mars after all.....or is it ? 8)This is view that had Clarke scratching his head. Found on the link provided by Yex, above.

http://a52.g.akamaitech.net/f/52/827/1d/www.space.com/images/v_mars_banyon_02.jpg

Anyone who's ever hiked through Sequoia National Forest understands that trees can grow pretty damned big.

[mojo]

its very normal to question everything said once its known the source has lied beforeAn excellent and timely point given the hoax foodfight of the last few days.



Hoax's/Lies serve their purpose, they always have.
KIWI's point shows that only too well.

" once its known the source has lied before"
If the source had not been caught out in a lie their devout followers would continue to believe everything those charlatans have to say, the field of CT would be an even greater clusterfuck.
A Hoax can be used to expose the crooks, liars and just plain greedy and damage their standing amongst devotee's.
Tearing a hoax to shreds, by the very people it's meant to deceive, improves the image of those within the field. Cleaning their own backyard so to speak.
From the very earliest time in our rise from hairy knuckled sapiens we have engaged in distortions, lies and subterfuge, many of which have sped our progress in one way or another.
All things, black and white, yin and yang, good or evil, serve a purpose in the greater scheme of things and to deny this is merely burying your head in the sand.



And thank god for arthur c clarke, never mind his faults, if it weren't for him i would never have taken an interest in science, space, archaelogy or ct, and nor would thousands of others i imagine.

[Snow Crash]

Blue sky on Mars? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm............

y]wN-bXc1w6Dcy]

[KIWI]

If the source had not been caught out in a lie their devout followers would continue to believe everything those charlatans have to say, the field of CT would be an even greater clusterfuck.


Im more tolerant of individuals and small groups larking about,hoax-wise, my reference to the "source" in this case is NASA......

and IMO they should be 100 percent beyond reproach, they are answerable to the people, whose hard earned money finances their ventures

interesting how times change, in the 19th century it was a career of its own to be perpetrating major Hoaxes, the culprits becoming heroes of a sort in the publics eye, I guess it was their equivalent of mass entertainment back then......now we have the TV......bit sad really :?

[KIWI]

Smite for KIWI for debunking those silly trees without a single word.


I think it only adds to the overall strangeness of that shot.......I have stared many times at, around, through, and over it (with my trusty mag glass also :roll: ) with the hope my own eyes, letting my focus drift about , can pick up a sense of unnatural manipulation with the sand-dune looking mass........I would much rather wish the peripheral features be trees :cry: , and I wouldnt knock anyone who suggested it without the benefit of a "fuller" shot.....still a very strange landscape, as to be expected I guess...it is frickin Mars after all.....or is it ? 8)This is view that had Clarke scratching his head. Found on the link provided by Yex, above.

http://a52.g.akamaitech.net/f/52/827/1d/www.space.com/images/v_mars_banyon_02.jpg

Anyone who's ever hiked through Sequoia National Forest understands that trees can grow pretty damned big.

what a shame the data isnt available on the altitude.........any one know if a request was put in to the JPL for the info?

and if it was what was the reply

[boycotteverything]

this investigator is working on it. so far she's found this- http://ida.wr.usgs.gov/html/m08046/m0804688.html

http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs240.snc1/8721_1116249030384_1351737755_30328392_6533202_n.j pg

[Alessandra]

or taking a shit... either or

[boycotteverything]

Here's another explanation. The pics include a meter scale.
http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/8_10_99_releases/moc2_166/index.html

http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/8_10_99_releases/moc2_166/moc2_166b_msss.gif

[Alessandra]

so, wait, its ice?

[boycotteverything]

yep, ice. and vegetation?

[Alessandra]

Good lord, those are huge pot plants :lol:

[Ducky]

Good lord, those are huge pot plants :lol:

Doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[Alessandra]

Good lord, those are huge pot plants :lol:

Doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo


Dooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooo <=========>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[boycotteverything]

yeah well- dope or banyans or nothing at all. who knows?

[Alessandra]

Martian pot must be out of this world

:lol:

[Lexion]

Martian pot must be out of this world



That's redundant.

[boycotteverything]

i'll check with Dr. Exile

[Alessandra]

Martian pot must be out of this world



That's redundant.


Oh come on, it was punny! :lol:

[Snow Crash]

Martian pot must be out of this world

Jesus christ chica, that was bad. Even YT would not stoop so low.

Well, he likes to think he wouldn't anyways...

[Alessandra]

Snow, why are you speaking in the third person?

[KIWI]

Here's another explanation. The pics include a meter scale.
http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/8_10_99_releases/moc2_166/index.html

http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/8_10_99_releases/moc2_166/moc2_166b_msss.gif


:shock: :arrow: :alien: ........space penquins?

[Alessandra]

LOL space penguins, Nice.

[Snow Crash]

Snow, why are you speaking in the third person?

Snow occasionally speaks in the third because it represents a mild form of escapism.

Well, at least, that's one reason he does it.

[Lexion]

Kevin ?

[KIWI]

H.A.L ?

[Cogburn]

I'm afraid I can't do that, kiwi.

[imgs=600:14p1k816]http://www.carlspeare.com/hal9000.jpg[/imgs:14p1k816]

[Alessandra]

I'm sorry Kiwi, I'm afraid I can't do that.

Cog: Thats fucking scary, we both thought of that at the same time.

[KIWI]

:lol: ....xcellant........that is a worry :shock:

but this is disturbing.... :|

http://www.stanleysound.com/marspage.html

or this one... :scratch: http://101science.com/space.htm#MARS

[attachment=0:o8yvts9l]mars_cookies_030731_04.jpg[/attachment:o8yvts9l]

[KIWI]

isnt Phobos a srange looking critter
[spoiler:1habcisr][attachment=0:1habcisr]f854a81-3.jpg[/attachment:1habcisr][/spoiler:1habcisr]

[KIWI]

Lamont Crater
[spoiler:1x30gtat][attachment=0:1x30gtat]20090908a.jpg[/attachment:1x30gtat][/spoiler:1x30gtat]


Location:
-58.0N, 246.6E Released:
2009-09-08
Image Size:
20.4 x 66.7 km, 1024 x 3648 px
Resolution: 20m Instrument: VIS

[KIWI]

:shock:


Location:
-84.3N, 191.0E Released:
2007-04-18
Image Size:
17.6 x 259.1 km, 512 x 7584 px
Resolution: 34m Instrument: VIS


[attachment=0:3ptldn8b]MARS 1.JPG[/attachment:3ptldn8b]

[Cogburn]

http://www.cs.uwo.ca/Infocom/Images/lgop.jpg

[Lexion]

http://www.cs.uwo.ca/Infocom/Images/lgop.jpg

Fail.

[Alessandra]

eh, its just cogburn.

[KIWI]

http://www.cs.uwo.ca/Infocom/Images/lgop.jpg

Fail.


Cog wasnt to know you and the "Leather Godess of Phobos" were an item at one time Lex :lol:

Im only aware of it because I lived for a while next door to a gossiping "Darlek" from Proton 4 :smokin:

[cartoon]

Lamont Crater

Spoiler: show

Lamont Cranston:

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze34fnk/graphics/gijoe/customs/gijoe-shadow-with-cover-large.jpg

[Cogburn]

It's official.

http://i25.tinypic.com/9kqe4j.jpg

Congrats, all!

[KIWI]

so Martian, whats that thing I circled above????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????????????

[Martian Exile]

i'll check with Dr. Exile

Martian pot lets you see dancing pink mastodons, but not only that, you can materialize them from your mind into reality. I put a local bar out of business that way. Patrons would walk out drunk, see a dancing pink mastodon in the street, and join AA. Martian pot also cures cancer, but the Bureau of Martian Anthropology is on the take from the AMA to keep the stuff on Mars.

[Martian Exile]

so Martian, whats that thing I circled above????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????????????

That’s a Martian planetary wart.

Someday you Earthings will figure out that planets are living entities too.

[Alessandra]

so Martian, whats that thing I circled above????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????????????

That’s a Martian planetary wart.

Someday you Earthings will figure out that planets are living entities too.

I think ours is about to go through PMS.

[Martian Exile]

Humans: Planetary HIV.

[Alessandra]

Humans: Planetary HIV.

Or warts.

[Snow Crash]

so Martian, whats that thing I circled above????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????????????

That’s a Martian planetary wart.

Someday you Earthings will figure out that planets are living entities too.

I think ours is about to go through PMS.

By PMS do you mean The End of the World?

l]nZMwKPmsbWEl]

[Alessandra]

brilliant youtube video. Fuckin' kangaroos.

[lala]

or . . . .

[attachment=0:18bmx6vk]Sick-World_SMALL.jpg[/attachment:18bmx6vk]

[Alessandra]

or . . . .

[attachment=0:3qrceeu5]Sick-World_SMALL.jpg[/attachment:3qrceeu5]


Smited for truth.