In Recognition Of..............

[mojo]

Often come across some interesting people when researching different stuff and thought i'd share some with you, some you may have heard of others probably not.
Feel free to add to it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Schauberger

[offsite:134978lr]Viktor Schauberger (30 June1885 – 25 September1958) was an Austrian forester/forest warden, naturalist, philosopher, inventor and Biomimicry experimenter.
The inventor of what he called "implosion technology", Schauberger developed his own theories based on fluidic vortices and movement in nature. He built actuators for airplanes, ships, silent turbines [1], self-cleaning pipes and equipment for cleaning and so-called "refinement" of water to create spring water, [2] which he used as a remedy.
Schauberger's theories appear not to have received acceptance in the mainstream western scientific community, as replication proves either too difficult or results vary from previously published data. However, Schauberger's work remains an inspiration to many people in the Green Movement for his own observations of nature.[/offsite:134978lr]

this link contains some figures, pictures and diagrams of Schaubergers and others work on vortices and engines.

http://evgars.com/shauberg1.htm

http://www.pks.or.at/menu_en.html

Next.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruno_Latour

[offsite:134978lr]Bruno Latour (born June 22, 1947, Beaune, France) is a French sociologist of science, anthropologist and an influential theorist in the field of Science and Technology Studies (STS)[1]. After teaching at the École des Mines de Paris (Centre de Sociologie de l'Innovation) from 1982 to 2006, he is now Professor and vice-president for research at the Institut d'études politiques de Paris (2007)[2], where he is associated with the Centre de sociologie des organisations (CSO).
He is best known for his books We Have Never Been Modern (1991; English translation, 1993), Laboratory Life (with Steve Woolgar, 1979) and Science in Action (1987)[3]. Although his studies of scientific practice were at one time associated with social constructionist[3] approaches to the sociology of science, Latour has diverged significantly from such approaches. Along with Michel Callon and John Law, Latour is one of the primary developers of actor-network theory (ANT), a constructionist approach influenced by the ethnomethodology of Harold Garfinkel, the generative semiotics of Greimas, and (latterly) the sociology of Durkheim's rival Gabriel Tarde.[/offsite:134978lr]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actor-network_theory

[offsite:134978lr]Actor-network theory, often abbreviated as ANT, is a distinctive approach to social theory and research which originated in the field of science studies. Although it is best known for its controversial insistence on the agency of nonhumans, ANT is also associated with forceful critiques of conventional and critical sociology.
Developed by Science and Technology Studies (STS) scholars Michel Callon and Bruno Latour, the British sociologist John Law, and others, it can more technically be described as a 'material-semiotic' method. This means that it maps relations that are simultaneously material (between things) and 'semiotic' (between concepts). It assumes that many relations are both material and 'semiotic' (e.g. the interactions in a bank involve both people and their ideas, and technologies. Together these form a single network).
Actor-network theory tries to explain how material-semiotic networks come together to act as a whole (e.g. a bank is both a network and an actor that hangs together, and for certain purposes acts as a single entity). As a part of this it may look at explicit strategies for relating different elements together into a network so that they form an apparently coherent whole.
According to actor-network theory, such actor-networks are potentially transient, existing in a constant making and re-making [1]. This means that relations need to be repeatedly 'performed' or the network will dissolve. (E.g. the bank clerks need to come to work each day, and the computers need to keep on running.) They also assume that networks of relations are not intrinsically coherent, and may indeed contain conflicts (e.g. there may be poor labor relations, or computer software may be incompatible).[/offsite:134978lr]



Another.

http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/chemistry/laureates/1971/herzberg-bio.html

[offsite:134978lr]Herzberg's main contributions are to the field of atomic and molecular spectroscopy. He and his associates have determined the structures of a large number of diatomic and polyatomic molecules, including the structures of many free radicals difficult to determine in any other way (among others, those of free methyl and methylene). Herzberg has also applied these spectroscopic studies to the identification of certain molecules in planetary atmospheres, in comets, and in interstellar space.[/offsite:134978lr]

http://pubs.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/eng/books/books/9780660187570.html

[offsite:134978lr]Gerhard Herzberg (1904-1999) was one of the greatest scientists of the last century. Born and educated in Germany, he started his research just as the exciting discovery of quantum mechanics began unraveling the mysteries of the microscopic world. Herzberg chose to study spectroscopy, the light emitted and absorbed by atoms and molecules, which has played a central role in the development of modern science. His succession of notable experimental and theoretical results during seven decades of active research led to his recognition as the founder of molecular spectroscopy.[/offsite:134978lr]



And one last one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldus_Manutius

[offsite:134978lr]Aldus Pius Manutius (1449/1450–February 6, 1515), the Latinized name of Teobaldo Mannucci,[1] sometimes called Aldus Manutius, the Elder, to distinguish him from his grandson, Aldus Manutius, the Younger, was an Italian humanist who became a printer and publisher when he founded the Aldine Press at Venice.
His publishing legacy includes the distinctions of inventing italic type, establishing the modern use of the semicolon, and introducing inexpensive books in small formats bound in vellum that were read much like modern paperbacks.[/offsite:134978lr]

[offsite:134978lr]It was Manutius' ambition to secure the literature of Greece from further loss by committing its chief masterpieces to type. He introduced personal or pocket editions of the classics in Greek and Latin that all could own.[/offsite:134978lr]

[offsite:134978lr]To his fellow workers he was uniformly generous, free from jealousy, and prodigal of praise. While aiming at that excellence of typography which renders his editions the treasures of the book-collector, he strove at the same time to make them cheap. His great undertaking was carried on under continual difficulties, arising from strikes among his workmen, the piracies of rivals, and the interruptions of war.
When he died, bequeathing Greek literature as an inalienable possession to the world, he was a poor man.[/offsite:134978lr]

[pack3tg0st]

whoa mojo... cool stuff!

what are you researching that brought that stuff up?

[mojo]

whoa mojo... cool stuff!

what are you researching that brought that stuff up?

just going through thousands of bookmarked pages and cleaning out my folder, there not all related, lol.
i'll post some more interesting ones as i go along.

sigh....makes me realise how much stuff i started working on and never finished.

[pack3tg0st]

lol I hear ya man...

I've got a shitload of projects on the burner... some I haven't touched in months lol

Guess i'm a little ADD when it comes to stuff sometimes...

[mojo]

http://www-gap.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Biographies/Cusa.html

[offsite:vpr58uan]Nikolaus Kryffs or Krebs was the son of a wealthy shipper on the river Mosel. He was born in Kues, now Bernkastel-Kues, about 30 km from Trier, an old town in the Palatinate, founded by the Romans. He was named Cusanus, as usual in the Latin speaking church environment, from the Latin name of the town.
He was ordained in 1440 and became a cardinal in 1448 and then became the bishop of Brixon (now Bressanone) in 1450. (The 'cardinal' was a title, while the 'bishop' was an office.)
He was interested in geometry and logic. He contributed to the study of infinity, studying the infinitely large and the infinitely small. He looked at the circle as the limit of regular polygons and used it in his religious teaching to show how one can approach truth but never reach it completely.
Cusa is best known as a philosopher who argued the incomplete nature of man's knowledge of the universe. He claimed that the search for truth was equal to the task of squaring the circle.
In 1444 he became interested in astronomy and purchased sixteen books on astronomy, a wooden celestial globe, a copper celestial globe and various astronomical instruments including an astrolabe.
His interest in astronomy certainly led him to certain theories which were true and others which may still prove to be true. For example he claimed that the Earth moved round the Sun. He also claimed that the stars were other suns and that space was infinite. He also believed that the stars had other worlds orbiting them which were inhabited. He got so much right that perhaps this will also be found to be true one day!
Cusa published improvements to the Alfonsine Tables which gave a practical method to find the position of the Sun, Moon and planets using Ptolemy's model. These tables had originally been compiled in 1272 with the support of King Alfonso X of Castile.
Like many learned men of his time, Cusa also wrote on calendar reform.
Giordano Bruno is said to have written:
If [Nicholas of Cusa] had not been hindered by his priest's vestment, he would have even been greater than Pythagoras! [/offsite:vpr58uan]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_of_Kues

[offsite:vpr58uan]Nicholas is also considered by many to be a genius ahead of his time in the field of science. Nicolaus Copernicus, Galileo Galilei and Giordano Bruno were all aware of the writings of Cusanus as was Johannes Kepler (who called Cusanus 'divinely inspired' in the first paragraph of his first published work). Predating Kepler, Cusanus said that no perfect circle can exist in the universe (opposing the Aristotelean model, and also Copernicus' later assumption of circular orbits), thus opening the possibility for Kepler's model featuring elliptical orbits of the planets around the Sun. He also influenced Giordano Bruno by denying the finiteness of the universe and the Earth's exceptional position in it (being not the center of the universe, and in that regard equal in rank with the other stars). He was not, however, describing a scientifically verifiable theory of the universe: his beliefs (which proved uncannily accurate) were based almost entirely on his own personal numerological calculations and metaphysics.[10]
Cusanus made important contributions to the field of mathematics by developing the concepts of the infinitesimal and of relative motion. He was the first to use concave lenses to correct myopia. His writings were essential for Leibniz's discovery of calculus as well as Cantor's later work on infinity[citation needed].
From the Catholic Encyclopedia (1913 edition):
The astronomical views of the cardinal are scattered through his philosophical treatises. They evince complete independence of traditional doctrines, though they are based on symbolism of numbers, on combinations of letters, and on abstract speculations rather than observation. The earth is a star like other stars, is not the centre of the universe, is not at rest, nor are its poles fixed. The celestial bodies are not strictly spherical, nor are their orbits circular. The difference between theory and appearance is explained by relative motion. Had Copernicus been aware of these assertions he would probably have been encouraged by them to publish his own monumental work.[11][/offsite:vpr58uan]




And T H Huxley. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Henry_Huxley)

[offsite:vpr58uan]Thomas Henry Huxley PC FRS (4 May 1825 – 29 June 1895) was an English biologist, known as "Darwin's Bulldog" for his advocacy of Charles Darwin's theory of evolution.[1]
Huxley's famous 1860 debate with Samuel Wilberforce was a key moment in the wider acceptance of evolution, and in his own career. Wilberforce was coached by Richard Owen, against whom Huxley also debated on whether man was closely related to apes. Huxley was slow to accept some of Darwin's ideas, such as gradualism, and was undecided about natural selection, but despite this he was wholehearted in his public support of Darwin. He was instrumental in developing scientific education in Britain, and fought against the more extreme versions of religious tradition.
Huxley used the term 'agnostic' to describe his own views on theology, a term whose use has continued to the present day (see Thomas Henry Huxley and agnosticism).
Huxley had little schooling, and taught himself almost everything he knew. Remarkably, he became perhaps the finest comparative anatomist of the second half of the nineteenth century. He worked on invertebrates, clarifying relationships between groups previously little understood. Later, he worked on vertebrates, especially on the relationship between man and the apes. One important conclusion was that birds evolved from small carnivorous dinosaurs, a view widely held today. The tendency has been for this fine anatomical work to be overshadowed by his energetic and controversial activity in favour of evolution, and by his extensive public work on scientific education, both of which had significant effects on society in Britain and elsewhere.[/offsite:vpr58uan]

a list of huxley's publications and writings.

http://aleph0.clarku.edu/huxley/toc.html



And Berossus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berossus

[offsite:vpr58uan]Using ancient Babylonian records and texts that are lost to us, Berossus published the Babyloniaca (hereafter, History of Babylonia) some time around 290-278 BC, under the patronage[1] of the Macedonian/Seleucid king, Antiochus I Soter.[2] Certain astrological fragments recorded in Pliny the Elder, Censorinus, Flavius Josephus, and Marcus Vitruvius Pollio are also attributed to Berossos, but are of unknown provenance, or indeed where they might fit into his History. Vitruvius credits him with the invention of the semi-circular sundial. A statue of him was erected in Athens, perhaps attesting to his fame and scholarship as historian and astronomer-astrologer.
A separate work, Procreatio, is attributed to him in the Latin commentaries on Aratus, Commentariorium in Aratum Reliquiae, but there is no proof of this connection. However, a direct citation (name and title) is rare in antiquity, and it may have referred to Book 1 of his History.
He was born during or before Alexander the Great's reign over Babylon (330-323 BC), with the earliest date suggested as 340 BC. According to Vitruvius' de Architectura, he eventually moved to the island of Kos off the coast of Asia Minor and set up a school of astrology there, under the patronage of the king of Egypt. However, scholars have questioned whether it would have been possible to work under the Seleucids and then move on to a region under Ptolemaic control late in life. It is not known when he died.[/offsite:vpr58uan]

FRAGMENTS OF CHALDÆAN HISTORY, BEROSSUS: FROM ALEXANDER POLYHISTOR. (http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/af/af02.htm)

[offsite:vpr58uan]BEROSSUS, in the first book of his history of Babylonia, informs us that he lived in the age of Alexander the son of Philip. And he mentions that there were written accounts, preserved at Babylon with the greatest care, comprehending a period of above fifteen myriads of years: and that these writings contained histories of the heaven and of the sea; of the birth of mankind; and of the kings, and of the memorable actions which they had achieved.
And in the first place he describes Babylonia as a country situated between the Tigris and the Euphrates: that it abounded with wheat, and barley, and ocrus, and sesame; and that in the lakes were produced the roots called gongre, which are fit for food, and in respect to nutriment similar to barley. That there were also palm trees and apples, and a variety of fruits; fish also and birds, both those which are merely of flight, and those which frequent the lakes. He adds, that those parts of the country which bordered upon Arabia, were without water, and barren; but that the parts which lay on the other side were both hilly and fertile.[/offsite:vpr58uan]

[mojo]

August Spies.

Autobiography of August Spies (http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/haymarket/augustspies.html)

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAspies.htm


[offsite:1yrih89n]August Spies was born in Landeck, Germany in 1855. Spies emigrated to the United States in 1872 and settled in Chicago where he became a upholsterer. He became involved in trade union activities and joined the Socialist Labor Party in 1877. Three years later he began contributing to the anarchist journal, Arbeiter Zeitung, and became editor in 1880.

Spies developed a reputation for his violent speeches. In October 1885 he told a meeting of the Central Labor Union that: "We urgently call upon the wage-class to arm itself in order to be able to put forth against the exploiters such an argument which alone can be effective - violence."

On 1st May, 1886 a strike was began throughout the United States in support a eight-hour day. Over the next few days over 340,000 men and women withdrew their labor. Over a quarter of these strikers were from Chicago and the employers were so shocked by this show of unity that 45,000 workers in the city were immediately granted a shorter workday.

The campaign for the eight-hour day was organised by the International Working Peoples Association (IWPA). On 3rd May, the IWPA in Chicago held a rally outside the McCormick Harvester Works, where 1,400 workers were on strike. They were joined by 6,000 lumber-shovers, who had also withdrawn their labour. While Spies was making a speech, the police arrived and opened-fire on the crowd, killing four of the workers.

The following day Spies published a leaflet in English and German entitled: Revenge! Workingmen to Arms!. It included the passage: "They killed the poor wretches because they, like you, had the courage to disobey the supreme will of your bosses. They killed them to show you 'Free American Citizens' that you must be satisfied with whatever your bosses condescend to allow you, or you will get killed. If you are men, if you are the sons of your grand sires, who have shed their blood to free you, then you will rise in your might, Hercules, and destroy the hideous monster that seeks to destroy you. To arms we call you, to arms." Spies also published a second leaflet calling for a mass protest at Haymarket Square that evening.

On 4th May, over 3,000 people turned up at the Haymarket meeting. Speeches were made by Spies, Albert Parsons and Samuel Fielden. At 10 a.m. Captain John Bonfield and 180 policemen arrived on the scene. Bonfield was telling the crowd to "disperse immediately and peaceably" when someone threw a bomb into the police ranks from one of the alleys that led into the square. It exploded killing eight men and wounding sixty-seven others. The police then immediately attacked the crowd. A number of people were killed (the exact number was never disclosed) and over 200 were badly injured.

Several people identified Rudolph Schnaubelt as the man who threw the bomb. He was arrested but was later released without charge. It was later claimed that Schnaubelt was an agent provocateur in the pay of the authorities. After the release of Schnaubelt, the police arrested Spies, Samuel Fielden and five German immigrants, George Engel, August Spies, Adolph Fisher, Louis Lingg, Oscar Neebe, and Michael Schwab. The police also sought Albert Parsons, the leader of the International Working Peoples Association in Chicago, but he went into hiding and was able to avoid capture. However, on the morning of the trial, Parsons arrived in court to standby his comrades.

There were plenty of witnesses who were able to prove that none of the eight men threw the bomb. The authorities therefore decided to charge them with conspiracy to commit murder. The prosecution case was that these men had made speeches and written articles that had encouraged the unnamed man at the Haymarket to throw the bomb at the police.

The jury was chosen by a special bailiff instead of being selected at random. One of those picked was a relative of one of the police victims. Julius Grinnell, the State's Attorney, told the jury: "Convict these men make examples of them, hang them, and you save our institutions."[/offsite:1yrih89n]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Spies

[offsite:1yrih89n]August Vincent Theodore Spies (December 10, 1855 – November 11, 1887) was an anarchist labor activist who was found guilty of conspiracy and hanged following a bomb attack on police at the Haymarket Riot.[/offsite:1yrih89n]


As he faced his demise on the gallows, Spies shouted, "the day will come when our silence will be more powerful than the voices you strangle today."



Laws are cobwebs for the rich, and chains of steel for the poor.



Anarchism does not mean bloodshed; it does not mean robbery, arson, etc. These monstrosities are, on the contrary, the characteristic features of capitalism. Anarchism means peace and tranquility to all.

[mojo]

Sargon The Great.

http://www.fsmitha.com/h1/ch03.htm

[offsite:3cc7exbx]Those who conquered the Sumerians were a Semitic people. A dynasty of Semitic kings came to rule the city of Kish. There, perhaps around 2200 BCE, a former cup-bearer to one of these kings overthrew the ruling dynasty. With good military tactics that included holding and fighting from high ground, he extended his rule. He defeated the Sumerian king of Nippur, where the Sumerian god Enlil was believed to dwell. He claimed that his victories were given to him by Enlil. And he became known as Sargon the Great[/offsite:3cc7exbx]

The original Moses?

http://lexicorient.com/e.o/sargon.htm

[offsite:3cc7exbx]From the legends about his life we learn facts that could just as well be imagination as truth. The story of his life starts with him being found as a baby by a gardener as he came floating in a basket down the river — a story older but similar to the one the Old Testament tells about Moses.[/offsite:3cc7exbx]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sargon_of_Akkad

[offsite:3cc7exbx]Sargon is the first individual in recorded history to create a multiethnic, centrally ruled empire, and his dynasty controlled Mesopotamia for around a century and a half[/offsite:3cc7exbx]

The Legend of Sargon. (http://history-world.org/legend_of_sargon.htm)

[Hazelnut]

Google Slurp bumps this post.

[GeneralStriker]

He defeated the Sumerian king of Nippur, where the Sumerian god Enlil was believed to dwell. I guess we ought to ask, 'why?' Just bored? or needing an imperial barbecue? ...and this makes the cat 'great?' looks like 'greatness' could use a higher standard. gimme a break.

[Hazelnut]

I guess we ought to ask, 'why?' Just bored? or needing an imperial barbecue? ...and this makes the cat 'great?' looks like 'greatness' could use a higher standard. gimme a break.

Uncle Randy? Is that you?

[Hazelnut]

Sargon The Great.

The Legend of Sargon. (http://history-world.org/legend_of_sargon.htm)

I'm happy to have found this thread and its links. It should be an interesting read. Akkadians, like in Scorpion King?


A history of ancient Akkad (Akkadians) from its rise to fall including its kings, cities, laws and contributions to civilization

It looks like today is the day to learn something new. Muchas gracias.

[GeneralStriker]

Thank god for the brave troops in Sargon's army making the world safe for democracy.


It looks like today is the day to learn something new.We can only hope so.

Genocide makes you evil but old genocide makes you great. jesus...Santayana is rolling in his grave.

[Raptor Jesus]

Schauberger's an interesting guy, he's in my Backyard Saucer Tech thread in my sig...

[anarch]

Bump for interesting stuff

[mojo]

I guess we ought to ask, 'why?' Just bored? or needing an imperial barbecue? ...and this makes the cat 'great?' looks like 'greatness' could use a higher standard. gimme a break.

typical comment of the lazy thinker.

like most "great" rulers, politicians, artists and artisans or other histtorical figures the sum of all their parts is not conditional on just their sins or their good works.

"greatness" is difficult to judge, by his actions whether you agree with them or not sargon's rule was one of the first great empires which in turn created opportunities for many other aspects of civilization to flourish.

http://history-world.org/sargon_the_great.htm

According to a folktale, Sargon was a self-made man of humble origins; a gardener, having found him as a baby floating in a basket on the river, brought him up in his own calling. His father is unknown; his own name during his childhood is also unknown; his mother is said to have been a priestess in a town on the middle Euphrates. Rising, therefore, without the help of influential relations, he attained the post of cupbearer to the ruler of the city of Kish, in the north of the ancient land of Sumer. The event that brought him to supremacy was the defeat of Lugalzaggisi of Uruk (biblical Erech, in central Sumer).


During Sargon's rule Akkadian became adapted to the script that previously had been used in the Sumerian language, and the new spirit of calligraphy that is visible upon the clay tablets of this dynasty is also clearly seen on contemporary cylinder seals, with their beautifully arranged and executed scenes of mythology and festive life. Even if this new artistic feeling is not necessarily to be attributed directly to the personal influence of Sargon, it shows that, in his new capital, military and economic values were not alone important.


There is no evidence to suggest that he was particularly harsh, nor that the Sumerians disliked him for being a Semite. The empire did not collapse totally, for Sargon's successors were able to control their legacy, and later generations thought of him as being perhaps the greatest name in their history.


quite suprisingly, was the first to use amphibious warfare in recorded history. The key to Sargon's victories, however, always lied with his coordination in army movement, his ability to improvise tactics, his combined arms strategy, and his skill at siege warfare, as well as the keeping of intelligence, and always relying on heavy reconaissance.

[GeneralStriker]

Well let me borrow a little scat-riff from our esteemed member, Hissel. "Sargon sucks horse dick." And don't you forget it you Sumerian wombat turd.

[Ducky]

Akkadians:


The Akkadian Empire was an empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire) centered in the city of Akkad (Sumerian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_language): Agade (Assyrian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyrian_Neo-Aramaic): ܐܵܟܟܵܐܕ ) Hittite (http://www.premiumwanadoo.com/cuneiform.languages/en_ecriture.htm) KUR A.GA.DÈKI "land of Akkad"; Biblical Accad) and its surrounding region (Akkadian URU Akkad KI)[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akkadian_Empire#cite_note-0) in Ancient Iraq (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Iraq),[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akkadian_Empire#cite_note-1)[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akkadian_Empire#cite_note-WebsterNinthNewCollege-2) (Mesopotamia). The Akkadian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akkadian_language) predecessor-state of Babylonia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonia); formed following centuries of Akkadian cultural synergy with Sumerians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumer), it reached the height of its power between the 24th and 22nd centuries BC following the conquests of king Sargon of Akkad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sargon_of_Akkad), and is sometimes regarded as the first manifestation of an empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire) in history,[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akkadian_Empire#cite_note-3)[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akkadian_Empire#cite_note-4) though there are also previous claimants.
Through linguistic assimilation, Akkad also gave its name to the predominant Semitic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_language) dialect: the Akkadian language (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akkadian_language), reflecting use of akkadû ("in the language of Akkad") in the Old Babylonian period to denote the Semitic version of a Sumerian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_language) text.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akkadian_Empire


Then there's the ACADIANS from Nova Scotia/Canada:


The Acadians (French (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_language): Acadiens) are the descendants of the seventeenth-century French (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France) colonists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_colonial_empires) who settled in Acadia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acadia) (located in the Canadian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada) Maritime provinces (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maritime_provinces) — Nova Scotia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova_Scotia), New Brunswick (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Brunswick), and Prince Edward Island (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Edward_Island), Quebec (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec), and in the US (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US) state of Maine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maine)). Although today most of the Acadians and Québécois (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French-speaking_Quebecer) are francophone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francophone) Canadians, Acadia was founded in a region geographically and administratively separate from Quebec (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec) ("Canada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada,_New_France)" at this time), which led to their developing two rather distinct histories and cultures[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acadians#cite_note-2). The settlers whose descendants became Acadians did not all come from the same region in France. Acadian family names have come from many areas in France, from the Maillets of Paris to the LeBlancs of Normandy. As additional examples, the popular Acadian surname 'Melanson' had its roots in Brittany (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brittany), and those with the surname 'Bastarache', 'Basque', had their origin in the Basque Country (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_Country_(historical_territory)).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acadians

Now I wonder what 'Bastarache' means?

[lala]

Here you go Ducky:D http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.fc/qx/bastarache-family-crest.htm

[mojo]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kahina

al-Kāhina (Classical Arabic (http://amkon.net/wiki/Classical_Arabic) for "female seer"; modern Maghreb Arabic (http://amkon.net/wiki/Maghreb_Arabic) l-Kahna, commonly romanised as Kah(i)na, also known as Dihya or Kahya) was a 7th century female Berber (http://amkon.net/wiki/Berber_people) religious and military leader, who led indigenous resistance to Arab expansion in Northwest Africa (http://amkon.net/wiki/Northwest_Africa), the region then known as Numidia (http://amkon.net/wiki/Numidia), known as the Maghreb (http://amkon.net/wiki/Maghreb) today. She was born in the early 7th century and died around the end of the 7th century probably in modern day Algeria (http://amkon.net/wiki/Algeria).


Kahina's legendary life
L-Kahna succeeded Kusaila (http://amkon.net/wiki/Kusaila) as the war leader of the Berber (http://amkon.net/wiki/Berber_people) tribes in the 680s and opposed the encroaching Arab armies of the Umayyad Dynasty (http://amkon.net/wiki/Umayyad_Caliphate). Hasan ibn al-Nu'man (http://amkon.net/wiki/Hasan_ibn_al-Nu%27man) marched from Egypt (http://amkon.net/wiki/Egypt) and captured the major Byzantine (http://amkon.net/wiki/Byzantine) city of Carthage (http://amkon.net/wiki/Carthage) and other cities (see Umayyad conquest of North Africa (http://amkon.net/wiki/Umayyad_conquest_of_North_Africa) ). Searching for another enemy to defeat, he was told that the most powerful monarch in North Africa was "the queen of the Berbers" (Arabic: malikat al-barbar) al-Kāhinat, and accordingly marched into Numidia (http://amkon.net/wiki/Numidia). The armies met near Meskiana [10] (http://amkon.net/l%20cite_note-9) in the present-day province of Oum el-Bouaghi (http://amkon.net/wiki/Oum_el-Bouaghi_Province), Algeria (http://amkon.net/wiki/Algeria). She defeated Hasan (http://amkon.net/wiki/Hasan_ibn_al-Nu%27man) so soundly that he fled Ifriqiya (http://amkon.net/wiki/Ifriqiya) and holed up in Cyrenaica (http://amkon.net/wiki/Cyrenaica) (Libya) for four or five years. Realizing that the enemy was too powerful and bound to return, she was said to have embarked on a scorched earth (http://amkon.net/wiki/Scorched_earth) campaign, which had little impact on the mountain and desert tribes, but lost her the crucial support of the sedentary oasis-dwellers. Instead of discouraging the Arab armies, her desperate decision hastened defeat.[11] (http://amkon.net/l%20cite_note-10)
Hasan (http://amkon.net/wiki/Hasan_ibn_al-Nu%27man) eventually returned and, aided by communications with the captured officer adopted by l-Kahna, defeated her at a locality (presumably in present-day Algeria) about which there is some uncertainty[12] (http://amkon.net/l%20cite_note-11). Before the battle, foreseeing the outcome, she sent her two real sons over to the Arab army under the care of the adopted son, and Hasan (http://amkon.net/wiki/Hasan_ibn_al-Nu%27man) is said to have given one of them charge of a section of his forces[13] (http://amkon.net/l%20cite_note-12). According to some accounts, l-Kahna died fighting the invaders, sword in hand, a warrior's death. Other accounts say she committed suicide by swallowing poison rather than be taken by the enemy. This final act occurred in the 690s or 700s, with 702 or 703 given as the most likely year[14] (http://amkon.net/l%20cite_note-13). In that year, she was, according to Ibn Khaldun (http://amkon.net/wiki/Ibn_Khaldun), 127 years old, which would place the year of her birth in the 6th century, c. 566. This was probably not meant literally, as great age was often depicted with exaggerated numbers.
In later centuries, Kahina's legend was used to bolster the claims of Berbers in al-Andalūs (http://amkon.net/wiki/Al-Andalus) against Arab claims of ethnic supremacy—in the early modern age, she was used by French colonials, Berber nationalists, Arab Nationalists, North African Jews, North African feminists, and Maghrebi nationalists alike for their own didactic purposes.
Manly Wade Wellman (http://amkon.net/wiki/Manly_Wade_Wellman) wrote a historical fantasy novel about her, called Kahena.


http://www.whoosh.org/issue85/klossner6.html

The Greeks [i.e., the Byzantines] were expelled, but the Arabians were not yet the masters of the country. In the interior provinces the Moors or Berbers, so feeble under the first Caesars [the Romans], so formidable to the Byzantine princes, maintained a disorderly resistance to the religion and power of the successors of Mohammad. Under the standard of their queen Cahina the independent tribes acquired some degree of union and discipline; and as the Moors respected in their females the character of a prophetess, they attacked the invaders with an enthusiasm similar to their own.
The veteran bands of Hassan were inadequate to the defense of Africa; the conquests of an age were lost in a single day; and the Arabian chief, overwhelmed by the torrent, retired to the confines of Egypt, and expected, five years, the promised succours of the caliph.
After the retreat of the Saracens, the victorious prophetess assembled the Moorish chiefs, and recommended a measure of strange and savage policy. "Our cities," she said, "and the gold and silver which they contain, perpetually attract the arms of the Arabs. These vile metals are not the objects of our ambition; we content ourselves with the simple productions of the earth. Let us destroy these cities; let us bury in their ruins those pernicious treasures; and when the avarice of our foes shall be destitute of temptation, perhaps they will cease to disturb the tranquility of a warlike people."


[Irving goes on to recount how Hassan (or "Hossan") was ruined by the jealousy of the Caliph's brother, who was emir of Egypt.] It is added that, not content with depriving Hossan of his command, he despoiled him of all his property, and carried his persecutions so far, that the conqueror of Carthage, the slayer of the patriot queen, within a brief time after her death, and almost amid the very scenes of his triumph, died of a broken heart. His cruel treatment of the heroic Cahina reconciles us to the injustice wreaked upon him. (Irving, p. 489-492).

[Gunter]

Nice to see we're all adept at the mysterious art of cutting and pasting. I feel a lot better now. And once again, thank god for the brave troops in Sargon's army making the world safe for democracy- oh-- and for those brave Acadians for inventing Canada.

[mojo]

whether its cut and paste or not it's still an interesting read, or are you waiting for the movie to come out on dvd?

i would have added my own spin but i knew nothing about kahina today and thought it would be nice to share.
if you don't like it then fuck off and go troll someone elses thread dipshit.

[boycotteverything]

fuck off and go troll someone elses thread dipshit. being in the cups ain't supposed to cost you your humor. jesus...

[mojo]

maybe its not humorous.

[boycotteverything]

maybe its not humorous.one man's humor is another man's sorrow.

[mojo]

i do whenever possible try to cite at least one other reliable source when copy and pasting anything from wikipedia.
if y'all don't want to read about historical shit that some of us find interesting, don't bother reading the thread.
you need not concern yourself with sargons muddy past then.