AMKON EXCLUSIVE: UCLA to study freemason history

[Cogburn]

Something you won't read anywhere else, probably. I'm posting the letter as I received it. The redaction is my street address and full name.

Read past the flowery verbiage to what it's actually saying: UCLA will be conducting a complete historical analysis of freemasonry from an objective perspective... and it's being funded by freemasons.

Understand that the reason for the particular wording is because it is a fundraising letter to all members of the GL of California.

This should be big news for conspiracy buffs unless you're of the crowd that thinks we're just purchasing a favorable view.

Trust me... I have today donated to the project and now that I have a vested interest in the outcome as both a member of the GL of CA and a direct donor, I'll be personally seeing to it that it will be both objective and complete.

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[Alessandra]

survey says: Absolutely nothing intriguing with freemasonry.

Case Closed.

[skunk]

How can the study be objective if its funded by freemasons? What if they find something y'all don't like?

[Cogburn]

Funding for any kind of research has to come from somewhere (it pays my bills, after all) and most often that is an interested party... and because I am contained within that "y'all".

If you think for one moment that I will allow some varnished, biased truth to be put into the public sphere in my name when it is within my power to control it then I look forward to the opportunity to prove you wrong.

If it turns into bullshit, to say I will be very loud in my detraction would be something of an understatement.

If it is truthful, complete and honest... I will be as equally vocal and we'll all have some new facts in our arsenal.

[theeindiee]

LIES!

[Alessandra]

quiet, twee boy.

[skunk]

I wasn't accusing anyone of purposefully defrauding this investigation. However, we know how a lot of research into certain organizations, paid for by aforementioned groups, turns out....Highly redacted.

Let's hope this isn't the case.

[pack3tg0st]

hrm... the timing is quite remarkable from my standpoint lol

I am in the process of getting permission from various lodges around my area to go in and take photographs...

I'm teamed up with local historical societies... my interest isn't the masons per se, but instead, the architectural and historical importance of the buildings themselves...

many of the lodges around here are over a century old...

I know, sounds like a mundane project, but I'm a history addict...

[theeindiee]

You're all liars! I can prove it! I'm not gunna prove it right now, though! I'll wait until you've forgotten that I said anything about proving it in order to prove it!

[skunk]

It'd be interesting to find out why the masons in Olean, New York decided it would be a good idea to have a lodge above a bank of america...Gets one thinking... :P .

But the main lodge in downtown might be something you'd be interested in pack. Its gotta be at least a century old as well.

[Cogburn]

I wasn't accusing anyone of purposefully defrauding this investigation. However, we know how a lot of research into certain organizations, paid for by aforementioned groups, turns out....Highly redacted.

Let's hope this isn't the case.
Don't confuse my energy with your statements... it wasn't intended.

I just have the opportunity to wedge myself into a bit of "official" conspiracy research and since I feel personally invested on several levels I plan on watching this from a boots-on-the-ground perspective.

There shall be no bullshit.

LOL pack... Those geezers love a chance to share some of the worthless shit they know. Some secret society when to enter their meeting place all you need do is ask, eh?

The FOP won't let me sit in open meetings either so I guess we're even.... granted... 50% of the sheriffs in Santa Barbara county are brethren...

[pack3tg0st]

yah, I'd like to go outside my local area to check out other ones...

but some lodges are putting provisions on my photography (like I can't publish etc)... and I'd have to figure out a way to get my expenses covered if I were to go national with my pet project...

[Cogburn]

yah, I'd like to go outside my local area to check out other ones...

but some lodges are putting provisions on my photography (like I can't publish etc)... and I'd have to figure out a way to get my expenses covered if I were to go national with my pet project...
Go directly to the Grand Lodge of each state.

They are the supreme governing body for all blue lodges and if they say "ok" the individual lodges won't make a fuss.

[pack3tg0st]

hrm... cool! might have to do that!

will they give me the okay to publish the photographs?

some lodges say I can... some said that I can, but can't say anything negative about the masons (even though I"m looking at the building, not the "club", and a few have said I can only take photos for the historical society, and not publish...

[Cogburn]

What they don't want is people to say "OOooo look at the temple of the devil worshipers!"

I think that if you clearly state your intent and present it in a form of an informal contract that the GL won't mind and may even provide assistance and ask for copies.

It always helps if you bring a M.'.M.'. with you or have one that "sponsors" your idea. Makes it seem like you're less of an internet wacko and most normal people know a mason or two and I am 99% you do, too.

Just adds a little "I'm not lying to you" street cred. You could imagine the number of nutballs that I've seen even in Santa Barbara.

[theeindiee]

So will they publish the proven fact that every high level Freemason is a reptilian in disguise?

[pack3tg0st]

It always helps if you bring a M.'.M.'. with you or have one that "sponsors" your idea.

My brother is a MM. He's been my sponsor through the whole ordeal so far...

Haven't taken pictures yet, but have gotten permission to go into 3 lodges so far...

[Cogburn]

I'm buddies with our lodge historian. If you're interested I'll see if I can't get you some snaps of our lodge through history. It's pretty impressive since they have photographs going back 150 years.

[theeindiee]

150 years of reptilians....

[Cogburn]

ROFL I already smote you once in this thread for making me spit espresso out of my nose.

Not fun....

[theeindiee]

Shhhh! I'm trying to get people to think I'm serious!

[theeindiee]

Shhhh! I'm trying to get people to think I'm serious!


Ruined by my own devices.... yet again.

[pack3tg0st]

I'm buddies with our lodge historian. If you're interested I'll see if I can't get you some snaps of our lodge through history. It's pretty impressive since they have photographs going back 150 years.

I might have to take ya up on that sometime... right now, the scope of my photography project is just local area... I'm not hitting up just Lodges either... I've also been trying to get the city to let me into a condemned opera house to take photos...

They don't want to let me... but I'm persistent!

My last correspondence was asking if I could if I signed a waiver lol

I just feel that someone should document some of these old fuckin' buildings before they fall under their own weight...

[Cogburn]

I'm buddies with our lodge historian. If you're interested I'll see if I can't get you some snaps of our lodge through history. It's pretty impressive since they have photographs going back 150 years.

I might have to take ya up on that sometime... right now, the scope of my photography project is just local area... I'm not hitting up just Lodges either... I've also been trying to get the city to let me into a condemned opera house to take photos...

They don't want to let me... but I'm persistent!

My last correspondence was asking if I could if I signed a waiver lol

I just feel that someone should document some of these old fuckin' buildings before they fall under their own weight...
I'm surprised you've met with such resistance. I can't believe the lodges themselves don't want it done for posterity.

I'm chalking it up to stupid hillbillies.

[pack3tg0st]

It could be... the one I've been having problems with is a farm town about 30 miles outside the city... population of the entire township is less than 1000...

I don't think there's anyone in that town under the age of 55 LOL

[Cogburn]

Well, odd enough, it's actually the second time today I've heard something about Illinois masons acting weird over dumb shit.

Might just be that state is full of loons.

;)

[pack3tg0st]

I'm in Michigan :P

[Cogburn]

Phft... what's the difference?

[pack3tg0st]

The Roti's

We have the Cosa Nostra.... our crime families over here are conglomorates lol

We have the Tocco Licavoli Zerilli Crime Family

[skunk]

Tocco Licavoli Zerilli. Sounds like a pasta dish.

[Cogburn]

All are one under the Holy Roman Church.

Nom de jour only helps when you're prosecuting.

Worthy derail. :)