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BriZz
08-16-2009, 11:52 AM
A warning that the new swine flu jab is linked to a deadly nerve disease has been sent by the Government to senior neurologists in a confidential letter.

The letter from the Health Protection Agency, the official body that oversees public health, has been leaked to The Mail on Sunday, leading to demands to know why the information has not been given to the public before the vaccination of millions of people, including children, begins.

It tells the neurologists that they must be alert for an increase in a brain disorder called Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS), which could be triggered by the vaccine.

GBS attacks the lining of the nerves, causing paralysis and inability to breathe, and can be fatal.

The letter, sent to about 600 neurologists on July 29, is the first sign that there is concern at the highest levels that the vaccine itself could cause serious complications.

It refers to the use of a similar swine flu vaccine in the United States in 1976 when:

* More people died from the vaccination than from swine flu.
* 500 cases of GBS were detected.
* The vaccine may have increased the risk of contracting GBS by eight times.
* The vaccine was withdrawn after just ten weeks when the link with GBS became clear.
* The US Government was forced to pay out millions of dollars to those affected.

Concerns have already been raised that the new vaccine has not been sufficiently tested and that the effects, especially on children, are unknown.

It is being developed by pharmaceutical companies and will be given to about 13million people during the first wave of immunisation, expected to start in October.

Top priority will be given to everyone aged six months to 65 with an underlying health problem, pregnant women and health professionals.

The British Neurological Surveillance Unit (BNSU), part of the British Association of Neurologists, has been asked to monitor closely any cases of GBS as the vaccine is rolled out.

One senior neurologist said last night: ‘I would not have the swine
flu jab because of the GBS risk.’

There are concerns that there could be a repeat of what became known as the ‘1976 debacle’ in the US, where a swine flu vaccine killed 25 people – more than the virus itself.

A mass vaccination was given the go-ahead by President Gerald Ford because scientists believed that the swine flu strain was similar to the one responsible for the 1918-19 pandemic, which killed half a million Americans and 20million people worldwide.

Within days, symptoms of GBS were reported among those who had been immunised and 25 people died from respiratory failure after severe paralysis. One in 80,000 people came down with the condition. In contrast, just one person died of swine flu.

More than 40million Americans had received the vaccine by the time the programme was stopped after ten weeks. The US Government paid out millions of dollars in compensation to those affected.

The swine flu virus in the new vaccine is a slightly different strain from the 1976 virus, but the possibility of an increased incidence of GBS remains a concern.

Shadow health spokesman Mike Penning said last night: ‘The last thing we want is secret letters handed around experts within the NHS. We need a vaccine but we also need to know about potential risks.

‘Our job is to make sure that the public knows what’s going on. Why
is the Government not being open about this? It’s also very worrying if GPs, who will be administering the vaccine, aren’t being warned.’

Two letters were posted together to neurologists advising them of the concerns. The first, dated July 29, was written by Professor Elizabeth Miller, head of the HPA’s Immunisation Department.

It says: ‘The vaccines used to combat an expected swine influenza pandemic in 1976 were shown to be associated with GBS and were withdrawn from use.

‘GBS has been identified as a condition needing enhanced surveillance when the swine flu vaccines are rolled out.




more @ link

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1206807/Swine-flu-jab-link-killer-nerve-disease-Leaked-letter-reveals-concern-neurologists-25-deaths-America.html

Lexion
08-16-2009, 01:33 PM
Jo McFarlane (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=y&authornamef=Jo+Macfarlane)

Meh, sounds more like Sorcha Faal.

"Leaked letter" ??? C'mon....

I'm calling fear mongering.

Nice catch though.

Lex

BriZz
08-16-2009, 02:12 PM
who knows... but i am kind of weary on taking a vaccine that was rushed to production, especially giving it to my kids when it hasn't been tested on kids. they are up to date on their regular vaccines, but those have been around for years.

Alessandra
08-16-2009, 02:16 PM
Regardless of the fearmongering, and bullshit...I'm still not taking this Vaccine.

Lexion
08-16-2009, 02:18 PM
I've never taken a Flu shot.

No CT, I just hate needles.

In the last 20 years, I've had
the Flu three times.

My wife works in the health
industry, so hers is kind of
mandatory.

There's too much conflicting
info out there for me to make
a clear judgement on the new
vaccine.

That being said, I tend to trust
doctors.

Lex

skunk
08-16-2009, 02:30 PM
Hm...Kind of the HPV vaccine giving women...HPV...

I'll pass.

BriZz
08-16-2009, 02:42 PM
Hm...Kind of the HPV vaccine giving women...HPV...

I'll pass.



i got 2 of the 3 doses of that, and when i started researching it i didnt get the 3rd one.


oops,

brizz

Ducky
08-16-2009, 02:48 PM
I have a theory.

Let's let those us who don't want it, hole up and lay low for a bit, quarentee those who have the flu, and let everyone else get their shots.

When the coast is clear, we'll come out again. No more flu. That sucker will have died out.

Case solved?

:lol:

BriZz
08-16-2009, 02:57 PM
I have a theory.

Let's let those us who don't want it, hole up and lay low for a bit, quarentee those who have the flu, and let everyone else get their shots.

When the coast is clear, we'll come out again. No more flu. That sucker will have died out.

Case solved?

:lol:


you just have to stay in your house for 180 days.

Ducky
08-16-2009, 03:12 PM
I have a theory.

Let's let those us who don't want it, hole up and lay low for a bit, quarentee those who have the flu, and let everyone else get their shots.

When the coast is clear, we'll come out again. No more flu. That sucker will have died out.

Case solved?

:lol:


you just have to stay in your house for 180 days.

That long?!?!!?

crap. :P

Lexion
08-16-2009, 03:18 PM
you just have to stay in your house for 180 days.

Better stock up on batteries.

:D

Giggity,
Lex

theeindiee
08-16-2009, 03:22 PM
I have a theory.

Let's let those us who don't want it, hole up and lay low for a bit, quarentee those who have the flu, and let everyone else get their shots.

When the coast is clear, we'll come out again. No more flu. That sucker will have died out.

Case solved?

:lol:


you just have to stay in your house for 180 days.

Oh goodie! An excuse to continue being a Hermit!

Oh by the way, did you see that fucking yahoo news propaganda picturette on swine flu, shows some very judgmental looking Indian woman scaring the piss out of you with giant eyes made of pure fear and hate?

That's stupiee.

Alessandra
08-17-2009, 12:45 AM
you just have to stay in your house for 180 days.

Better stock up on batteries.

:D

Giggity,
Lex


10 Steps ahead of you.

WarlordZeroOne
08-17-2009, 12:50 AM
Swine Flu jab linked to killer nerve disease. Thats fucking great, as long as they don't make it compulsory for the ovr 60's that me. lol, not foooking funny really.

Alessandra
08-17-2009, 12:52 AM
normally, regular flu's go for people your age or higher, and infants. Flu's like the Spanish Flu, and a *variant* of the H1N1 were/are focusing on young adults. Thats the strange bit.

WarlordZeroOne
08-17-2009, 12:54 AM
Maybe they want rid of a Generation?

boycotteverything
08-17-2009, 12:56 AM
people who lived through the swine flu of the 70s have a limited developed immunity. Kids born since the 80s generally don't. that's why this flu is dangerous for kids.

WarlordZeroOne
08-17-2009, 01:00 AM
Don't know about you BE this Pig Flu i am not hearing of many dieing (which is good) what about you? are they blowing this all out of proportion,it supposed to be Pandemic WTF is going off.

boycotteverything
08-17-2009, 01:04 AM
i dunno. i've read that it's actually in decline. i don't think governments are all that worried obout potential deaths. it has more to do with economic considerations.

WarlordZeroOne
08-17-2009, 01:08 AM
well lets hope it is in decline,give us all a break.

boycotteverything
08-17-2009, 01:09 AM
fuck it. who cares? (actually WHO cares!)

lala
08-17-2009, 03:50 AM
Here Brizz, an old link to a vid made in the 70's about swine flu jabs . . . . You might find it interesting . . . :D . . . . About 8 posts down . . . :D

viewtopic.php?f=54&t=7142&hilit=+swine+flu (http://www.amkon.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=7142&hilit=+swine+flu)

lala
08-17-2009, 03:58 AM
fuck it. who cares? (actually WHO cares!)


Having a moment are we . . . .you better start talking to your socks again . . . . sniff sniff, just give them a wash :lol:

WarlordZeroOne
08-17-2009, 08:15 AM
Lala everytime i look at your AVVY i have to laugh,then i think is Lala enjoying it that much,Lucky old KIWI. LOL. only having a laugh Lala.

=recon=
08-19-2009, 08:32 PM
Good read:

http://www.loadedparanormal.com/viewtopic.php?p=7845