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Hard work finding much up to date on this.......certainly getting old, (2000) and nothing new I daresay to most here, am I wrong to think that a discovery of this nature should galvanise the worlds archeologists into a unified assault on something like this?......here is the story as it goes.......
http://www.narkas.org/EN/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=20&Itemid=29
The history of this amazing finding has its beginning in July of 2000 with Canadians Paulina Zelitsky, a Russian engineer involved with Russian submarine spying during the Cold War, and her husband Paul Weinzweig. Both are currently researchers at "Advanced Digital Communications" (ADC) with offices in Canada and Cuba. On board their research vessel "Ulises", they were exploring the seabed far off Sant'Antonio cape, northwest Cuba, searching for shipwrecks which could be recovered. They are experts in this field and their reputation has spread far beyond their homeland.
Equipped with the most sophisticated systems for seabed surveillance and monitoring, they were on a routine search when their sonar suddenly “went crazy.” They encountered a strange almost flat stretch of seabed approximately 20 kilometers in area, with a maximum slope of 6 degrees. It was covered with a thick blanket of pure white sand. But an analysis of the sonar results suggested a quite incredible conclusion to Zelitsky and Weinzweig. These were localized megalithic structures, apparently made of stone, with clear pyramids or rectangles geometric shapes, organized symmetrically and perfectly aligned. In addition, there appeared to be roads, walls and constructions developed like an urban center.
“If I had to explain this geologically, I would have a hard time”
– Dr. Iturralde, Cuban geologist
“...the age of 50,000 years for the supposed human existence on the site cannot be accepted. The shocking results of the finding of the man-made structures may yield a new more exciting theory of Atlantis”
– Dr. Yuri Golubchikov, Leading Researcher Geographic Dept. University of Moscow
“It is really difficult to explain these structures...we need more data”
– Dr. Marco Chiesa, Italian Geologist
On May 28, 2002, Brian Handwerk published an article on the National Geographic official website titled "New Underwater Finds Raise Questions About Flood Myths." Mr. Handwerk wrote that "...Recent undersea findings may yield new clues to the study of human habitations that now lie beneath the waves...". To what exactly was he referring?
He was referring to something which we probably could define, without fear of contradiction, as the greatest archaeological discovery from the millenium's beginning: The submerged city of Cuba.
Handwerk describes the discovery and the context: "Deep in the waters of Cabo de San Antonio, off Cuba's coast, researchers are exploring unusual formations of smooth blocks, crests, and geometric shapes".
It is interesting, but certainly not extraordinary news. Reading further through the article on the National Geographic website, though, one reads something really amazing regarding those unusual formations: "The structures are buried under 1,900 to 2,500 feet (600 to 750 meters) of water".
bugger all about in the way of images either.....
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lo9cation said to be in rec boxed area.....
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the site is marked by the triangle.....
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boycotteverything
08-10-2009, 08:54 AM
Looks like you failed to mention this mosaic found in the ruins. As usual from you- just half the story.
http://open.salon.com/files/che-guevara1242900104.jpg
she-it!......the irony just wont stop :shock: I actually did consider posting Che, but then thought, naah, thats just stoopit :roll:
boycotteverything
08-10-2009, 09:04 AM
but then thought, naah, thats just stoopithahaha well you can always count on me!
but then thought, naah, thats just stoopithahaha well you can always count on me!
I wouldnt still be here fucking about after midnight wasting Jasons bandwidth for just anyone ya know....... :eye:
boycotteverything
08-10-2009, 09:17 AM
Just figured I'd remind the world that Che is never dead, he's become an idea. From Chiapas to Tierra del Fuego he's seen as a living embodiment of the promise of the Beatitudes among the poor and dispirited. My oldest daughter, born just a couple of years after his murder in Bolivia, is named 'Che.' His portrait is on my wall next to Malcolm X and he's never far from my thoughts. So it was a pleasure to share his beautiful face with you this morning!
Foxtrot Oscar
08-10-2009, 09:52 AM
Interesting stuff.
Maybe with cuba having a change in the guard and with the profit from Castro's book they can send someone down to have a butchers.
Fox
boycotteverything
08-10-2009, 10:05 AM
Maybe with cuba having a change in the guardThere will be no need for a change in guard. The Cuban people have been transformed and will never become a whorehouse for the jowely yankees again.
Interesting stuff.
Maybe with cuba having a change in the guard and with the profit from Castro's book they can send someone down to have a butchers.
Fox
always the way, a quick sniff and....................nada, hope someone has an update :|
boycotteverything
08-10-2009, 10:15 AM
What the hell does that have to do with Cuba Libre and Che? Get in the ballgame, hairy bird!
GhostOfCaptSpaulding
08-10-2009, 02:32 PM
Curiouser and curiouser...
[offsite:khwq5yl6]The Search for the Mother Lode
In September 1972 American oceanic explorer J. Manson Valentine, flying over the Bahamas in a light aircraft with and his associate Jim Richardson, noticed a mass of rectilinear and curvilinear features in shallow waters on the south-western edge of the former Bahaman landmass (now the Great Bahama Bank). Valentine referred to this mass of possible archaeological features as 'the mother lode'. They faced out across the Old Bahama Channel, like some kind of ancient port serving the Cuban mainland. As early as the 1950s light-aircraft pilots reported seeing what they described as underwater 'stonework' which was 'well within Cuban waters'. Similar sightings 'north of Cuba' of an alleged 'submerged building complex covering over ten acres' might even have convinced the Cuban government that a veritable city awaited discovery in its vigorously defended waters. There are, for instance, unconfirmed reports that this 'building complex' was explored with the assistance of Soviet submarines based in Cuba during the 1960s. Strange then that these recent discoveries of a sunken city in Cuban waters are being conducted by a Russian-born Canadian oceanographer.
Among those who felt they had glimpsed the remains of a lost citadel in Cuban waters was Leicester Hemingway, brother of the writer Ernest Hemingway. During a flight into the country, Leicester noticed, beyond its northern coast, 'an expanse of stone ruins, several acres in area and apparently white, as if they were marble'. The exact location of these underwater features remains unclear.
From the second report halfway down the page past the interview at the following link entitled :
'LOST CITY' FOUND OFF CUBA - IS IT PROOF OF ATLANTIS?
A Special Report by Andrew Collins
Very Detailed Update (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/735931/posts)[/offsite:khwq5yl6]
Wonder what the Russians know...
very cool find ghostie, certainly shunts the time frame back a few decades, and the subs of both America and Russia must know a hell of a lot about what is hidden around our coastlines and in the off-shore canyons :thegeneral:
GhostOfCaptSpaulding
08-11-2009, 10:10 PM
Thanks for the op; interesting subject.
...the subs of both America and Russia must know a hell of a lot about what is hidden around our coastlines and in the off-shore canyons :thegeneral:
Indeed, that, and the knowledge usurped and veiled by the sub-ethical power and greed heads who call the shots.
The Russian angle might be a path for research...
agreed,......"would you like a nuclear bomber with those state secrets comrade?"......ker-ching
the perception of NZ being nuke free is and always was a joke, there are several US installations down here that are a law unto them selves, not the least of these being the USAF "Deep-Freeze" base in Christ-Church. They have a policy of not disclosing the destination nor the cargo carried by their huge transport aircraft that come and go, so how the fuck could we possibly claim nuclear neutrality when we have a situation like this?....sanctioned by my own govt? :pound: .....its a joke
and by virtue of the very nature of the "Silent-Service", what in the way of nuclear-powered submarines come and go from the deep-water trenches off Kaikoura and other areas around our coastline? by their own admission their destinations and procedures are of the highest secrecy, makes me :projectile:
dont know if you saw the chart below Cap, posted originally to show why I think Guantanamo Bay, is such an important piece of US occupation,........ the "trench" :thegeneral:
[spoiler:1djjt4iw][attachment=0:1djjt4iw]Atlantic-trench.jpg[/attachment:1djjt4iw][/spoiler:1djjt4iw]
boycotteverything
08-12-2009, 08:27 AM
have some balls and throw the damned yanks out for chissakes. nah- never mind. ask lala to to do it. gotcha covered...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d7/US_military_bases_in_the_world-1.svg/800px-US_military_bases_in_the_world-1.svg.png
[center:16e03apg]US military bases[/center:16e03apg]
hey- i wonder if that's why we have no health care?
WITCH HUNT
08-12-2009, 09:56 AM
I can't find anything current on the Cuba site, or this one:
http://www.spiritofmaat.com/announce/oldcity.htm , about the Bay of CAMBAY in INDIA, this article is 2002.
There were published photos of sonar images of buildings for the site in INDIA that were identical to the ones from CUBA. However I can't find them now. The only difference between the two sites seem to be water depth. The Bay of CAMBAY is in about 130 ft of water and the CUBAN site is in about 2,000 ft of water.
boycotteverything
08-12-2009, 10:42 AM
The reasons given for lack of photographic evidence of the Atlantis Cubano is the lack of light at that depth. But I also suspect that the whole episode may simply amount to a bullshit figment of Mrs. Zelitsky's fertile imagination. Can you say, "Face on mars," young Earthling?
I can't find anything current on the Cuba site, or this one:
http://www.spiritofmaat.com/announce/oldcity.htm , about the Bay of CAMBAY in INDIA, this article is 2002.
There were published photos of sonar images of buildings for the site in INDIA that were identical to the ones from CUBA. However I can't find them now. The only difference between the two sites seem to be water depth. The Bay of CAMBAY is in about 130 ft of water and the CUBAN site is in about 2,000 ft of water.
nice one witchy, Graham Hancock tends to turn some people away, doesnt worry me much, whatever ha says you can be sure that he never put this shit there himself 8)
I will search (again) for a doc I have somewhere showing all the submerged sites around the planet, India is full of it.........
http://www.bloggersbase.com/articles/lifestyle/travel/underwater-ruined-world/
According to popular belief, the famous Shore Temple at Mahabalipuram wasn't a single temple, but the last of a series of seven temples, six of which had submerged. New finds suggest that there may be some truth to the story. A major discovery of submerged ruins was made in April of 2002 offshore of Mahabalipuram in Tamil Nadu, South India. The discovery, at depths of 5 to 7 meters (15 to 21 feet) was made by a joint team from the Dorset based Scientific Exploration Society (SES) and marine archaeologists from India's National Institute of Oceanography (NIO). Investigations at each of the locations revealed stone masonry, remains of walls, square rock cut remains, scattered square and rectangular stone blocks and a big platform with steps leading to it. All these lay amidst the locally occurring geological formations of rocks.
Based on what at first sight appears to be a lion figure at location four, the ruins were inferred to be part of a temple complex. The Pallava dynasty, which ruled the region during the 7th century AD, was known to have constructed many such rock-cut, structural temples in Mahabalipuram and Kanchipuram.
The reasons for the submergence of the ruins are remain unclear.
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boycotteverything
08-13-2009, 05:25 PM
Interesting. from George Filer email today-
Cuban Underwater Pyramids
The Russian-Canadian oceanographer Paulina Zelitsky reveals that in late October, she will lead a new expedition, from the Port of Progress, to explore a suspected site of a lost underwater city near Cuba financed by National Geographic. The team has been readying a specially equipped ship in Canada for the expedition. A hundred people plan to deploy a mini-submarine and several robots to depths of up to half a mile. In October of 2004, Paulina Zelitsky and her team found evidence that an island collapsed into the sea, but they could not complete the mission due to technical deficiencies. The scientists managed to film a pyramid of almost 35 meters height (115 feet) and to extract stones embedded with animal fossils incapable of living at a depth of 700 meters (2,300 feet).
The existence of pyramidal structures deep underneath Cuban waters is verified. Paulina Zelitsky has been steadfast in her theory of the collapse of the city as a result of a powerful earthquake more than 12,000 years ago. The scientists are in agreement that the geologic formation of the Yucatan Peninsula is as a result of seismic activity.
This discovery demonstrates that the first North American's arrived earlier than previously thought and that all did not arrive on the continent by means of the Bering Straits. There is even a new theory which surmises that the Mayans of Yucatan come from Central America. British archaeologists said that they found human tracks in Puebla that date from 40 thousand years ago, which contradicts the general idea that America was populated not more 13,500 years ago. The city lies between Cuba and Yucatan submerged to more than 600 meters with structures very geometrically cut, passages, tunnels and even temples with diverse symbols that arose in a place where officially human beings never lived. Most of these megalithic blocks have gigantic dimensions, reaching to five meters of height and several tons of weight and were cut to form greater structures. http://www.nwufoex.com/content/2009/33/2009-33_files/download_028b.jpg
Lexion
08-13-2009, 05:31 PM
Very cool, BE.
Please post anymore you get.
boycotteverything
08-13-2009, 05:33 PM
i ain't got nuthin. Kiwi's our explorer of the weird and you can bet he's workin on it.
Lexion
08-13-2009, 05:36 PM
Works for me.
boycotteverything
08-13-2009, 06:04 PM
George Filer http://www.nationalufocenter.com/artman/publish/article_292.php
Join MUFON
i ain't got nuthin. Kiwi's our explorer of the weird and you can bet he's workin on it.
you got plenty....team effort, just scratched out a couple of pages of text and the joint timed out,that will teach me to multi-task, chatting with Ima on skype........ :banghead: ha ha ,
as regards the Cuban ruins, seems hard to believe that the powers that be have not checked out the place covertly, subs etc.........I would think a site like that would be considered of global significance?.....a major piece in the puzzle of our early history, it would not take much to destroy these ruins and none of us would be any the wiser.
Much like the Moon drama, I find what isnt being done and said, far more telling than what has.........and although the whole alien/moon/drama is an exciting area of research, our clouded disjointed knowledge of the past is the more important for us to try and sort out, at least this riddle is literally in our own backyard
So when you consider the difficulty we have with sorting our terresstrial origins out, and its all within our technological capabillity to do so, what hope is there when we are looking for answers off-planet?
any-hoo, the more people involved the better, no prima- donnas around here :)
so cheers all ,Cap, Lex, BE, Witchy etc........good shit
boycotteverything
08-13-2009, 08:14 PM
i figured that would wake you outa your drunken stupor. he's baaaaack!
i figured that would wake you outa your drunken stupor. he's baaaaack!
good on ya , you old bastard :)
still searching for that doc , found one more small pic said to be from the Cuban site.......
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boycotteverything
08-13-2009, 08:36 PM
for fuck's sake. that looks like a fuzzy moon pic.
boycotteverything
08-13-2009, 08:43 PM
This shot was taken last week of the Grande Avenue of the undersea Atlantis Cubana. It's much clearer, I think you'll agree.
http://blog.cleveland.com/world_impact/2009/01/large_Viva-Fidel-Cuba-Jan1-09.jpg
for fuck's sake. that looks like a fuzzy moon pic.
true , but the difference being here we could tie 100 kg of lead to your leg and have the authenticity proven quick smart :twisted:
you only need take a wax pencil and board, just tick one of two boxes when you hit the bottom...."Yes" or "No", then release to float to the surface!...sorted :smokin:
this article is marked 2005.......getting closer
http://s8int.com/water27.html
Cataclysmic Earthquake
Paulina Zelitsky has been steadfast in her theory of the collapse of the city as a result of a powerful earthquake more than 12,000 years ago .
"All the team’s scientists are in agreement with the understanding that the geologic formation of the Yucatan Peninsula is as a result of seismic activity.
In fact, the Peninsula and the zone of the collapse are located near a zone of high seismicity ", she says. -
This discovery demonstrates that the first north americans arrived earlier than previously thought and that all did not arrive on the continent by means of the Bering Straits. Many others arrived from Asia by means of the Pacific Ocean.
There is even a new theory according to which surmises that the Mayans of Yucatan come from Central America. – put forth last week - the investigator remembers -,
British archaeologists said that they found human tracks in Puebla that date from 40 thousand years ago, which contradicts the general idea that America was populated not more 13,500 years ago.
Pyramids and building were captured by Paulina Zelitsky’s equipment in 2000, showing that between Cuba and Yucatan lies a city submerged to more than 600 meters of depth with structures very geometrically cut, passages, tunnels and even temples with diverse symbols that arose in a place where officially human beings never lived.
According to the investigators, these structures seem to be remains of streets, pyramids and buildings. Most of these blocks have gigantic dimensions, reaching to five meters of height and several tons of weight.
It has been confirmed that the stones were cut, carved and polished to make them fit them with others and thus form greater structures.
These constructions, the scientists agree, are megalythic, are aligned in symmetrical form, are very well organized and, as if they were ordered and city-planned set on a “beach” of very fine, volcanic crystal sediment, like sand. –
Translated from Diario de Yucatan, July 10, 2005. Photo from www.guerrillero.co.cu/ (http://www.guerrillero.co.cu/).
boycotteverything
08-13-2009, 09:13 PM
Translated from Diario de Yucatan, July 10, 2005. Photo from www.guerrillero.co.cu/ (http://www.guerrillero.co.cu/). At least you picked a good source. I love Guerrillero. Great newspaper. The picture I originally posted of the ruins was taken from there, too. Their website is constantly under a denial of service attack of some kind by the usual gang of idiots. Why the US can't celebrate Cuba rather than to continually look for ways to turn it back into a mob run whorehouse is beyond me. Viva Fidel. Viva Raul. Viva Cuba Libre. I refuse to die until the island is released from the tractor beam of the Borg. Tell that twat, Ima, that the next time you chat. hahahaha
http://www.argentour.com/images/che_guevara_fidel_castro.jpg
politics can fuck off, its the poor people, ...this is the best one Ive read....
THE BAY OF PIGS....."the leaders story of Brigade 2506"
By Hanes Johnson, with Manuel Artime, Jose Perez San Romon, Orneido Oliva, and Enrique Ruiz-Williams......
see if I can find an e-copy link
boycotteverything
08-13-2009, 09:57 PM
OK. back to the thread. It was just a brief public service announcement. I leave you with this:
http://chebama.com/images/checigar2.jpg
some interesting chat here.....
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=2146410578
Re: Cuban Underwater City (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Tuesday, 29 November 2005
In one of the original interviews, the Russian women scientist mentions a "huge submarine" at the site which moves off quickly.
No further mention is made of this sub., 1. whoever owns the sub knows of the xistence of the city and has know previously. 2. Was it a sub?
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Re: Cuban Underwater City by Anonymous on Saturday, 18 March 2006
Re: Cuban Underwater City by Anonymous on Saturday, 18 March 2006
this guy is/was the Cuban rep on the study.......
Re: Cuban Underwater City (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Tuesday, 28 May 2002
If someone is interested in the latest news about the so called underwater city of Cuba, please visit www.medioambiente.cu/museo (http://www.medioambiente.cu/museo) and search in Novedades>> "Megalitos submarinos". I am updating this same page as soon as any new data become available. At the present rate of the research, a monthly visit will do it.
Manuel Iturralde Vinent
Cuban Geologists
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Re: Cuban Underwater City by Anonymous on Friday, 04 March 2005
and apparently the Nat Geo pulled out......
Re: Cuban Underwater City (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Friday, 12 August 2005
It seems that people in power do not wish to know that there was a previous civilization of significance 12,000 years ago, hence National Geographic is backing off on the exploration of the underwater city in 700m of water off Cuba. A few years ago, the authorities scrapped a documentary on the Bahamas - which indicated a tsunami wiped out a 6,000 year old civilization that was on the Bahama banks,(only the floors remain).(These people gave rise to the Celts and Basques). The only way for exploration on this subject to gain momentum is for an independant body of educated individuals, privately funded to gain permission from Cuba and America to proceed with the project.
There is a great deal of evidence that shows that Central and South America as well as the Caribbean were far more significant players in the beginnings of civilization than is presently accepted.
For more info look up Polynesian Pathways by Peter Marsh (on Google) or look up http://www.polynesian-prehistory.com
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Re: Cuban Underwater City by Anonymous on Thursday, 18 May 2006
Cogburn
08-13-2009, 11:34 PM
some interesting chat here.....
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=2146410578
Re: Cuban Underwater City (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Tuesday, 29 November 2005
In one of the original interviews, the Russian women scientist mentions a "huge submarine" at the site which moves off quickly.
No further mention is made of this sub., 1. whoever owns the sub knows of the xistence of the city and has know previously. 2. Was it a sub?
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Re: Cuban Underwater City by Anonymous on Saturday, 18 March 2006
Re: Cuban Underwater City by Anonymous on Saturday, 18 March 2006
Hagbard Celine and the Legion of Dynamic Discord?
Re: Cuban Underwater City (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Friday, 20 March 2009
I suppose this is old news but the ruins turned out to be discards of cement, etc. from the disposed of remnants of missle cilos,etc. from the 1961 Cuban crisis. Alas, I wanted to believe too.
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Re: Cuban Underwater City by Anonymous on Saturday, 04 July 2009
boycotteverything
08-14-2009, 12:20 AM
remnants of missle cilosDon't sweat it, Kiwi. Anyone who spells silos with a 'c' can't be much of a reliable source. Go Sunken Sity! Oh wait- maybe she meant missal cilos-- some sort of Catholic paraphernalia. Oh no- missile cellos... that's it!
remnants of missle cilosDon't sweat it, Kiwi. Anyone who spells silos with a 'c' can't be much of a reliable source. Go Sunken Sity! Oh wait- maybe she meant missal cilos-- some sort of Catholic paraphernalia. Oh no- missile cellos... that's it!
yeah, pinch'o salt and all that........cog spotted it, the H.C.L.D.D are on the job 8)
Cogburn
08-14-2009, 12:29 AM
All it's missing is Howard the Dolphin and Leviathan.
boycotteverything
08-14-2009, 12:33 AM
and a boatload of Alpha 66 stiffs leftover from the Bay of Pigs
All it's missing is Howard the Dolphin and Leviathan.
I quite enjoy canned dolphin, as long as no tuna was harmed in the process
Lexion
08-14-2009, 10:22 AM
Re: Cuban Underwater City (Score: 0)
by Ducky on Friday, 20 March 2009
I suppose this is old news but the ruins turned out to be discards of cement, etc. from the disposed of remnants of missle cilos,etc. from the 1961 Cuban crisis. Alas, I wanted to believe too.
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Re: Cuban Underwater City by Anonymous on Saturday, 04 July 2009
boycotteverything
08-14-2009, 10:28 AM
That would explain it. See? And you figured no-one paid any attention to your posts.
Lexion
08-14-2009, 10:34 AM
That would explain it. See? And you figured no-one paid any attention to your posts.
:D