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KIWI
07-29-2009, 11:18 PM
This may not be the only way of raising these huge stone blocks, anti grav techniques may have been known and utilised, but this guy definately demonstrates how its possible to achieve this with conventional methods,..........awesome 8)

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GhostOfCaptSpaulding
07-30-2009, 12:58 AM
I've used a similar technique to move large appliances for years...

Jackinthebox
07-30-2009, 01:01 AM
If this is the same video I have seen before, he does not show how to put a horizontal block in place.

KIWI
07-30-2009, 01:08 AM
I've used a similar technique to move large appliances for years...

...must fuck the client off Cap,...all that sand through the house..... :idea:

KIWI
07-30-2009, 01:11 AM
If this is the same video I have seen before, he does not show how to put a horizontal block in place.

I guess an artificial (dirt/rock) mound , built around the 2 standing stones, might help out there?

GhostOfCaptSpaulding
07-30-2009, 01:17 AM
I've used a similar technique to move large appliances for years...

...must fuck the client off Cap,...all that sand through the house..... :idea:

No sand involved; just tipping it up onto one corner and rotating around to a different corner, "walking" the appliance to where ever I needed it.

KIWI
07-30-2009, 01:27 AM
I've used a similar technique to move large appliances for years...

...must fuck the client off Cap,...all that sand through the house..... :idea:

No sand involved; just tipping it up onto one corner and rotating around to a different corner, "walking" the appliance to where ever I needed it.

......yeah, pays to do the thinking with your big head, Ive been a labourer all my life, at sea and ashore, love it......am also a light weight type, so could never match it in the brute stength area, had to engage brain to overcome....more than one way to skin a cat a?

Jackinthebox
07-30-2009, 01:30 AM
If this is the same video I have seen before, he does not show how to put a horizontal block in place.

I guess an artificial (dirt/rock) mound , built around the 2 standing stones, might help out there?

Mound/ramp building has been ruled out for stonehnege I believe. I know it has for the pyramids.

KIWI
07-30-2009, 01:44 AM
If this is the same video I have seen before, he does not show how to put a horizontal block in place.

I guess an artificial (dirt/rock) mound , built around the 2 standing stones, might help out there?

Mound/ramp building has been ruled out for stonehnege I believe. I know it has for the pyramids.

whatever the techniques involved are only a part of the puzzle imo, its the aligment and geometry that was used that poses the main prob, ....where did the knowledge come from ?

Jackinthebox
07-30-2009, 02:05 AM
whatever the techniques involved are only a part of the puzzle imo, its the aligment and geometry that was used that poses the main prob, ....where did the knowledge come from ?

And Pumapunku totally blows my mind.

KIWI
07-30-2009, 02:14 AM
whatever the techniques involved are only a part of the puzzle imo, its the aligment and geometry that was used that poses the main prob, ....where did the knowledge come from ?

And Pumapunku totally blows my mind.

for sure,....and those "monster" stone blocks from Baalbek

KIWI
07-30-2009, 02:20 AM
think its Sitchin standing on that block...

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Cogburn
07-30-2009, 02:30 AM
Hmmm... The OP video puts the block about 3/8 set into the pit.

How deep are the blocks at Stonehenge set into the Earth?

You could use the same technique for Stonehenge, but if they are not as deeply set in the Earth it would infer additional power applied to lift the blocks in addition to gravity.

KIWI
07-30-2009, 02:36 AM
Hmmm... The OP video puts the block about 3/8 set into the pit.

How deep are the blocks at Stonehenge set into the Earth?

You could use the same technique for Stonehenge, but if they are not as deeply set in the Earth it would infer additional power applied to lift the blocks in addition to gravity.

maybe you could increase the ground height for the purpose of raising it, then clearing the excess away once the stone was stood?

Cogburn
07-30-2009, 02:52 AM
I don't follow ....

Sketch?

:)

KIWI
07-30-2009, 03:03 AM
I don't follow ....

Sketch?

:)

sadly for me "sketching" is a skill only for famous pilots..... 8)


but , what I mean is,......build a mound/platform on the ground, haul the stone on ,lying on its flat, dig down 20 ft, or whatever, half? of that hole will be the temp mound, when the stone is upright, with the lintel, obviously we are talking 2 upright stones for this purpose, ...with the lintel on top, you would then remove the mound material and the weight of the lintel will keep it all tickety-boo.......maybe?

Cogburn
07-30-2009, 03:10 AM
Ok... I see...

But the question still remains as to how deep in the ground are the stones at Stonehenge. If the stones are not deep enough, what was used to stop them from tipping over in the other direction due to momentum, much less to establish them as perfectly vertical?

KIWI
07-30-2009, 03:24 AM
Ok... I see...

But the question still remains as to how deep in the ground are the stones at Stonehenge. If the stones are not deep enough, what was used to stop them from tipping over in the other direction due to momentum, much less to establish them as perfectly vertical?

Cog ....as you know, there is no bigger "flake" around this board than moi,.......Im all for the Harmonic possibillities of moving these "monsters", as is referanced by Tibetan writings, the strange "box-of-tricks" Ed Leedskalnin had monted on top of his lifting gambols (Coral Castle) and of course Mr Cathie,........but having been in the middle of no-where, on quite a few occassions, with no one to call for help, I do understand that there are many ways to overcome a seemingly impossible task.........Im no diff than most blokes , like nothing more than being told..." it cant be done".........I have watched Asian construction workers using "kites" to lift loads onto buildings, mother.. necessity.. the...of... invention.. is ,....and all that shit :)

Jackinthebox
07-30-2009, 03:28 AM
Ok... I see...

But the question still remains as to how deep in the ground are the stones at Stonehenge. If the stones are not deep enough, what was used to stop them from tipping over in the other direction due to momentum, much less to establish them as perfectly vertical?

Maybe they shaved down the entire site. Evidence for that actually. You know actual land-scaping sort of deal. To flatten the ground, make it uniform, and of course making the stones appear that much taller. Like one person standing in the shallow end and the other near the deep end sort of deal. Tkae the excess dirt and make rings around the leveled "stage."

Jackinthebox
07-30-2009, 03:30 AM
Ok... I see...

But the question still remains as to how deep in the ground are the stones at Stonehenge. If the stones are not deep enough, what was used to stop them from tipping over in the other direction due to momentum, much less to establish them as perfectly vertical?

Cog ....as you know, there is no bigger "flake" around this board than moi,.......Im all for the Harmonic possibillities of moving these "monsters", as is referanced by Tibetan writings, the strange "box-of-tricks" Ed Leedskalnin had monted on top of his lifting gambols (Coral Castle) and of course Mr Cathie,........but having been in the middle of no-where, on quite a few occassions, with no one to call for help, I do understand that there are many ways to overcome a seemingly impossible task.........Im no diff than most blokes , like nothing more than being told..." it cant be done".........I have watched Asian construction workers using "kites" to lift loads onto buildings, mother.. necessity.. the...of... invention.. is ,....and all that shit :)

And then of course there is just some plain old fashioned "no way" mind over matter...

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV-iP1jSMlI

KIWI
07-30-2009, 03:43 AM
Ok... I see...

But the question still remains as to how deep in the ground are the stones at Stonehenge. If the stones are not deep enough, what was used to stop them from tipping over in the other direction due to momentum, much less to establish them as perfectly vertical?

Maybe they shaved down the entire site. Evidence for that actually. You know actual land-scaping sort of deal. To flatten the ground, make it uniform, and of course making the stones appear that much taller. Like one person standing in the shallow end and the other near the deep end sort of deal. Tkae the excess dirt and make rings around the leveled "stage."

yeah , ya right Jack, its another poss, as is the sand technique the guy in the vid used to lower it into the hole, make similar outcome to the non-newtonian fluid properties, just add water, while the sands dry its as solid as, the weight of the stone makes it so, differant story when the water is added, think its a property of the latest body armour also,.....truly nothing new under the sun a?

Cogburn
07-30-2009, 03:46 AM
Put the holes in the ground and then shaved off the top of the hill around them?

Works for me.

KIWI
07-30-2009, 03:49 AM
Put the holes in the ground and then shaved off the top of the hill around them?

Works for me.


Cog-Henge ?........or a letter to Playboy :smokin:

Jackinthebox
07-30-2009, 04:07 AM
yeah , ya right Jack, its another poss, as is the sand technique the guy in the vid used to lower it into the hole, make similar outcome to the non-newtonian fluid properties, just add water, while the sands dry its as solid as, the weight of the stone makes it so, differant story when the water is added, think its a property of the latest body armour also,.....truly nothing new under the sun a?

That's exactly what I came to realize when I learned about the Baghdad battery.

But what do I know eh Cog? I'm just a plagiarist. :pound: :wink:

KIWI
07-30-2009, 04:28 AM
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Cogburn
07-30-2009, 04:41 AM
But what do I know eh Cog? I'm just a plagiarist.
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then.

:smokin:

KIWI
07-30-2009, 04:45 AM
But what do I know eh Cog? I'm just a plagiarist.
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then.

:smokin:

now c'mon Jak , you wont find a funnier olive branch than that.. :lol:

I would award a cup-cake but cant find any "organic"...heres a smite instead 8)

KIWI
07-30-2009, 05:12 AM
That's exactly what I came to realize when I learned about the Baghdad battery

is this true self sufficiency ?......you could use your own waste from the day to power your night-light, or run a lap-top :smokin:

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KIWI
07-30-2009, 07:28 AM
....speaking of Baalbek

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[offsite:262eykyn]Please see large photos and maps all the way at the bottom of the blog. Everyone go to Google Earth and look at this for yourself! It's fun.

The Relationship of Baalbek and the Great Pyramid establishes a model for lines of latitude. Along the line between them every 100mi equals one degree of latitude. Jefferson later emulates this relationship using Monticello and the Washington D.C. boundaries.

Each facet of the Hexagon at Baalbek vectors to a significant site including Mecca, Ur, the Great Pyramid, Astana Kazakhstan, Carthage. The Great Pyramid's facets vector to two modern pyramids and many ancient sites. Pyramid at Teotihuacan vectors to pyramid in Sacramento.

Great Pyramid and Hexagon at Baalbek spatial relationship

Distance between: Great Pyramid of Giza tip; N Latitude 29 58 45.00, E Longitude 31 8 3.00 (Point 1)and the NW facet of the Hexagon at Baalbek, Lebanon: N Latitude 34 0 27.00, E Longitude 36 12 18.00 (Point 2)



654.952 kilometers; 406.968 miles
Azimuth from point 1 to point 2 = 45.55°Azimuth from point 2 to point 1 = 228.24°

This line closely matches the angle of NW facet of the Great Pyramid of Giza and the position and angle of a facet of the Hexagon at Baalbek, Lebanon while modeling the hypotenuse of a 5x4 celled rectangle of lat/long. Just five miles off over 407.

The Great Pyramid at Giza and the ruins at Baalbek are both monuments shrouded in mystery and the unknown. Theories as to the method of construction of both structures abound. At both locations stones so large were used they would be hard to move using the largest equipment available today. The Trilithon Stones at Baalbek are among the largest ever produced in the world. Modern engineers are baffled as to how the great edifice was constructed. Egyptologists consider the pyramids to be tombs and memorials of the Pharaohs who built them. Others believe the pyramids to be anything from landing ports for extraterrestrials to power generators from some as of yet unknown earth source.[/offsite:262eykyn]