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mojo
07-21-2009, 01:27 AM
It is our responsibility as advocates of free speech and the frank exchange of idea's and theory's relating to Conspiracy and Alternative topics to provide proper attribution to authors of original works and concepts.
In respect of this position it is a requirement to use correct code when quoting or copying sources and original content and to provide a link to the original article or concept whenever possible.

It is also our position that Cooperation and Respect with other CT forums is of paramount importance in the search for truth.
This does not mean that criticism, debate or opinion of other forums will ever be censored, only that proper attribution is given if quoting from these sources.

Furthermore, ATS (abovetopsecret) from this time forward is "personae non gratae", it is our wish that NO content from ATS is to be posted on this forum or links provided to their forum.
This is a request only, you have the freedom to post as you wish at AmKon but we hope that our members will understand our position.
This request is in effect as long as reciprocal Cooperation and Respect from ATS is not forthcoming.

Any threads from this time forward that have quoted content from ATS or it's members and you are unsure of whether attribution is warranted for any reason should be posted in the non-public forums.

Code: When quoting commentary from another user on a forum other than AmKon please use the [ quote ] tags. When posting information other than commentary please use the [ offsite ] tags.
A link to the content should also be supplied either before or after the quoted material.

If any members are unsure of how to use bb code to ensure correct attribution please contact any of the site Admin or for that matter any member, i'm sure there is no one in this community that would not offer assistance if asked.

I believe that in most instances we have always tried to comply with a policy of proper attribution to outside sources, the only instance of this policy not being enforced is due to one other site that we have ever had any connection with not allowing reciprocal linking.

In essence, nothing has changed, except that we now request that no content from ATS or links to their site should ever be posted in our public forums again until the spirit of Cooperation and Respect and reciprocal linking priviledges is provided by ATS.
This does not mean that you cannot post or comment your opinion of ATS or any other site, nor does it mean that you cannot post content that is readily available at other sites other than ATS nor does it mean that you cannot post content that is deemed to be covered under "Fair Use" guidelines.


If at anytime you are unsure please contact myself or any other admin for clarification or post your questions within this thread..

Thanks,

mojo.

(These guidelines may change at anytime, if changes are made to these guidelines a further post will be made to highlight the changes, they will not be surrepticiously snuck in through the back door.)


Edit to add......we do request that this banner is placed before or after any links to ATS, this is in response to all links being redirected by ATS.

use the following tags:
and wrap it around the content that was originally from ATS. The results will be:

yada yada yada

thanks.

GhostOfCaptSpaulding
07-21-2009, 01:41 AM
ATS is stupid.

*yawn*

Alessandra
07-21-2009, 01:44 AM
damn the man!

Ducky
07-21-2009, 01:58 AM
Great way to cut down the traffic direction to their site as well.

Fair is fair.

Good stuff Mojo

WarlordZeroOne
07-21-2009, 03:35 AM
Well Done Mojo,nobody likes ATS but they sure go on and on about it,and thats is from an observers point of view,so keep your shirts on AmKonites,no harm intended.

torbjon
07-21-2009, 01:57 PM
the freeks. who's next? the wayback machine? sorry they are fucking with you mojo... that's gotta be getting boring by now.

mojo
07-21-2009, 02:05 PM
the freeks. who's next? the wayback machine? sorry they are fucking with you mojo... that's gotta be getting boring by now.

haha...not fucking with me mate.

there isnt any decent original content on ats that i'd want to copy/share anyway, so why play?
its just a request, i've come to the realisation that what would make this site even better than it is now would be absolutely no content from or links to ATS.

Bill wants to behave like a child and a bully then he can do so on his own time, i'm over their crap.

pack3tg0st
07-21-2009, 02:11 PM
LOL but I like fuckin' with the old man...

He's all crotchety and stuff...

Anyway, I'll still find ways to fuck with em :P

I get bored lol

edit: Does that mean I should change my avatar?

mojo
07-21-2009, 02:23 PM
edit: Does that mean I should change my avatar?

NO....we don't censor, we advocate free speech.
its merely a request to not post any content from ats anymore, it doesn't mean you cant make fun of them.

GhostOfCaptSpaulding
07-21-2009, 02:25 PM
It's hard to beat their self-parody...

Jackinthebox
07-21-2009, 03:02 PM
Ever since my problems with them, I do my best to never ever direct traffic their direction if it can possibly be avoided. Hell, I refuse to answer people in other forums when they ask "What is ATS?" Unless maybe I tell them that it is a government website to monitor dissidents. ;)

GhostOfCaptSpaulding
07-21-2009, 03:05 PM
Did scratcher get his ID swiped? (http://twitter.com/Crakeur)

heh...

pack3tg0st
07-21-2009, 03:21 PM
nope... Floggin' Mcnoggin' is the name he blogs under...

GhostOfCaptSpaulding
07-21-2009, 03:42 PM
No doubt, but the first entry on his blog, currently the newest "tweet,' indicates he got his ID jacked, no?

Cogburn
07-21-2009, 10:41 PM
Mojo gave ATS the Rumsfeld. (http://i27.tinypic.com/8wa4qe.jpg)

mojo
07-22-2009, 12:24 AM
Mojo gave ATS the Rumsfeld. (http://i27.tinypic.com/8wa4qe.jpg)

lol, not so much pissed me off as bored me to tears with their anal bullshit.

i'd rather be cheney and take them hunting. :D

mojo
07-22-2009, 01:47 AM
The word censor for the link to ATS has been changed back, if you do choose to post content from ATS please post this banner either before or after the link.

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o223/mojo4sale/linkbanner.jpg

Jackinthebox
07-22-2009, 01:52 AM
Now, just to be clear, I can post anything here that I posted there verbatim, without citing them at all, so long as I was the author of the post?

pack3tg0st
07-22-2009, 02:09 AM
The word censor for the link to ATS has been changed back, if you do choose to post content from ATS please post this banner either before or after the link.



Nice Mojo!!!

There's got to be a way to get the word sensor to trigger that...

Where's Apeci?

on second thought... where's BK? :P

skunk
07-22-2009, 12:16 PM
Now, just to be clear, I can post anything here that I posted there verbatim, without citing them at all, so long as I was the author of the post?

Sure, fuck them. Its your original work.

Cogburn
07-22-2009, 01:39 PM
Just on a whim I did a Westlaw dive this morning and didn't find a single precedent where an online forum took a DCMA case to adjudication over member contributed content.

I don't think they, as the forum owner and therefore "publisher", have the legal right to dictate copyright compliance without such express consent being granted on behalf of the originator of the work in question.

I'm pretty confident that this whole link attribution nonsense is utterly unenforceable.

Could you imagine the lawsuit moot could wield on behalf of the users of 4chan?

It would be internet legal chaos. Courts don't like chaos.

Fuck ATS's attribution policy. It's not worth the bandwidth to transmit it.

Jackinthebox
07-22-2009, 01:54 PM
Now, just to be clear, I can post anything here that I posted there verbatim, without citing them at all, so long as I was the author of the post?

Sure, fuck them. Its your original work.

Just making sure. But at the same time, if I happened to post a screenshot, I'm pretty sure I'd get sued over use of their "unique coding."

hp
07-22-2009, 02:04 PM
Just go cut the text off the screen and paste it in a text file. It's your. Posting there doesn't mean you cannot ever use you your on work again, it just mean overload can keep a copy on his forum forever and use it for commercial purpose.

mojo
07-22-2009, 02:08 PM
I'm pretty confident that this whole link attribution nonsense is utterly unenforceable.



i've also sought some legal opinion from a copyright lawyer regarding the link to the original content, he seems to think that because ATS redirects any link from AmKon to their site to a 3rd party page that they are in fact inhibiting our ability to link to their original content and therefore would not be in breach anyway.
so by Bill placing that redirect when you click on a link from amkon to ats he is in fact inhibiting us from following his own T&C regarding correct attribution.

:lol:

i'm still waiting to here back from another "free legal copyright" advocate regarding a "couple" of other matters. ;)
it's always a good idea to have something up your sleeve.

hp
07-22-2009, 02:11 PM
So, Bill pulled a Cheney on his own foot.

Bitchkoma
07-22-2009, 02:52 PM
Could you imagine the lawsuit moot could wield on behalf of the users of 4chan?

:shock:

GhostOfCaptSpaulding
07-22-2009, 03:41 PM
Hi guests!

mojo
07-27-2009, 12:54 AM
we do request that this banner is placed before or after any links to ATS, this is in response to all links being redirected by ATS.

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o223/mojo4sale/linkbanner.jpg

the URL is http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o223/mojo4sale/linkbanner.jpg with the image tags, [ IMG ] [ /IMG ] without the spaces.

thanks.

Ducky
07-27-2009, 12:58 AM
Are we catering to them now?

mojo
07-27-2009, 01:22 AM
Are we catering to them now?

ummm.no.
we are explaining to guests and members that click on an ats link that they will be redirected due to the childish and spiteful nature of bill.

how is that catering to anyone?

boycotteverything
07-27-2009, 02:33 AM
Are we catering to them now?How can this be mistaken for 'catering'? I love it.[imgs=:1g5q7s57]http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o223/mojo4sale/linkbanner.jpg[/imgs:1g5q7s57]

Ducky
07-27-2009, 02:40 AM
Are we catering to them now?How can this be mistaken for 'catering'? I love it.[imgs=:3o961mt4]http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o223/mojo4sale/linkbanner.jpg[/imgs:3o961mt4]

Like we give a shit would you think. EaT ME.

Bitchkoma
07-27-2009, 02:51 AM
yields

[ats:p9ou32p2]hidden text[/ats:p9ou32p2]

maybe that is catering? i don't know. it wasn't hard to do. I made you a button [ats]

Bitchkoma
07-27-2009, 02:53 AM
shit i should intergrate that with [offsite] and [url]. we make them special just for ats.

after i take another hit.

boycotteverything
07-27-2009, 02:58 AM
Shit- I just made it my signature. Whether it applies or not in any specific case- it's always funny!
__________________________

[inmg=:1x2sg22h]http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o223/mojo4sale/linkbanner.jpg[/inmg:1x2sg22h]

boycotteverything
07-27-2009, 03:00 AM
EaT ME.Yikes! I think I'll take a pass, thanks.

Ducky
07-27-2009, 03:05 AM
EaT ME.Yikes! I think I'll take a pass, thanks.

E A T
M E

And on that note...let's get back to the threads.

"Honk that bitch"

y]SN_ycdU-AtUy]

boycotteverything
07-27-2009, 03:11 AM
i wouldn't eat you with a borrowed mouth.

Ducky
07-27-2009, 03:13 AM
i wouldn't eat you with a borrowed mouth.

Awwwwww...you're just jealous cus I can get the best of you!!!!!!!!!

And everything you hate about ME...is what you wish you could retain of your pityful eroding self.

jealousy doesn't become you BE.

Bitchkoma
07-27-2009, 03:13 AM
:pound:
[ats:3dmz2386]it's ok to suck my dick, though[/ats:3dmz2386]

boycotteverything
07-27-2009, 03:15 AM
Can we incorporate our famous little wanker within the logo? Talk about cool!

boycotteverything
07-27-2009, 03:26 AM
E A T
M E
I'd have considered it but I've sworn off camel jerky.

Bitchkoma
07-27-2009, 03:27 AM
Can we incorporate our famous little wanker within the logo? Talk about cool!


YEAH!!

[ats:36yuzcq8]suck it, bill, suck it with your cherry lips.[/ats:36yuzcq8]

mojo
07-30-2009, 02:58 PM
thanks to our resident seal we now have an ATS bbcode to use when quoting and linking to ats content.

[ats:1xpxci93]chrisonabike[/ats:1xpxci93]


blah blah reptilian blah blah ate my baby blah blah tv sucked me into 3rd dimension blah blah

skunk
07-30-2009, 06:46 PM
I think the stoopid user meant 4th dimension.

GhostOfCaptSpaulding
07-30-2009, 06:50 PM
Not if you're from the comics...

mojo
07-31-2009, 02:11 AM
I think the stoopid user meant 4th dimension.

nope he meant the 3rd dimension.

seriously, thats what the wanker said.

:lol:

skunk
07-31-2009, 07:37 AM
Ah, so he was a stick figure. Great investigative journalism goos.

mojo
07-15-2011, 02:36 AM
ahhhh....the good ole days.

"camel jerky" :lol:

boycotteverything
07-15-2011, 09:38 AM
Hahahahaha. Amkon is dead/Long live Amkon.