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Snow Crash
07-18-2009, 09:42 PM
Apologies if this is old news to some of you out there in Amkon Land, but I was digging through Press TV, seeing whats been going on behind the Persian Curtain, and I stumbled on this from February this year:

[offsite:1zqr5yf5]Thalidomide, Third Reich production?

The Thalidomide trust team claims that the drug responsible for the birth of limbless babies was developed by a Third Reich scientist.

Prescribed for expectant mothers between 1957 and 1961 to treat morning sickness, thalidomide was previously believed to be the invention of the German firm Chemie Grunenthal in the early 1950s.

The director of the Thalidomide trust team, Martin Johnson, however, claims that thalidomide was developed by Third Reich scientist Otto Ambros as an antidote to nerve toxins in case of a chemical war.[/offsite:1zqr5yf5]

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=85586

Naturally, I was intrigued, so I did a quick Google search on Herr Ambros, and came across THIS little gem of an article from Toxipedia:

[offsite:1zqr5yf5]Otto Ambros was a chemist at the German company [IG Farben] and was a leading figure in developing Germany's Chemical Weapons arsenal. He was questioned in the Spring of 1945 after the German surrender and claimed to be a "plain chemist" during his interview though he was integral in development of all German nerve agent advances[/offsite:1zqr5yf5]

http://toxipedia.org/wiki/display/toxipedia/Otto+Ambros

What's that? I G Farben you say?

[offsite:1zqr5yf5]How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power

Rumours of a link between the US first family and the Nazi war machine have circulated for decades. Now the Guardian can reveal how repercussions of events that culminated in action under the Trading with the Enemy Act are still being felt by today's president

George Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.
The Guardian has obtained confirmation from newly discovered files in the US National Archives that a firm of which Prescott Bush was a director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism.

His business dealings, which continued until his company's assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act, has led more than 60 years later to a civil action for damages being brought in Germany against the Bush family by two former slave labourers at Auschwitz and to a hum of pre-election controversy.[/offsite:1zqr5yf5]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

Yet another case of Nazi horrors surviving the war to be unleashed upon the citizens of the world by the Elites.

Yet another dark chapter from the dark history of one of the world's most sinister families.

A Thalidomide Victim:

http://www.voxpublica.org/archives/freddie.jpg

[offsite:1zqr5yf5]The drug has been approved in the US to treat a rare type of leprosy, and is used in Africa also to treat AIDS. And with its use, come more tragedies.

This little boy, Freddie, was born in Kenya. His parents tried to get him a visa to the UK for treatment, and after a media campaign they eventually succeeded. He died of a fungus infection a few days ago.[/offsite:1zqr5yf5]

(2006)

http://www.voxpublica.org/archives/002021.html

So it's back, apparently, and its a US firm pushing it. Meet Thalomid, by Celgene.

First, the good news:

[offsite:1zqr5yf5]THALOMID® (thalidomide) in combination with dexamethasone is indicated for the treatment of patients with newly diagnosed multiple myeloma.

The effectiveness of THALOMID® is based on response rates (see CLINICAL STUDIES section). There are no controlled trials demonstrating a clinical benefit, such as an improvement in survival.

THALOMID® (thalidomide) is indicated for the acute treatment of the cutaneous manifestations of moderate to severe erythema nodosum leprosum (ENL).

THALOMID® (thalidomide) is not indicated as monotherapy for such ENL treatment in the presence of moderate to severe neuritis.

THALOMID® (thalidomide) is also indicated as maintenance therapy for prevention and suppression of the cutaneous manifestations of ENL recurrence.[/offsite:1zqr5yf5]

Now the bad:

[offsite:1zqr5yf5]WARNINGS:

1. SEVERE, LIFE-THREATENING HUMAN BIRTH DEFECTS
IF THALIDOMIDE IS TAKEN DURING PREGNANCY, IT CAN CAUSE SEVERE BIRTH DEFECTS OR DEATH TO AN UNBORN BABY. THALIDOMIDE SHOULD NEVER BE USED BY WOMEN WHO ARE PREGNANT OR WHO COULD BECOME PREGNANT WHILE TAKING THE DRUG. EVEN A SINGLE DOSE [1 CAPSULE (REGARDLESS OF STRENGTH)] TAKEN BY A PREGNANT WOMAN DURING HER PREGNANCY CAN CAUSE SEVERE BIRTH DEFECTS.

BECAUSE OF THIS TOXICITY AND IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE THE CHANCE OF FETAL EXPOSURE TO THALOMID® (thalidomide) AS NEGLIGIBLE AS POSSIBLE, THALOMID® (thalidomide) IS APPROVED FOR MARKETING ONLY UNDER A SPECIAL RESTRICTED DISTRIBUTION PROGRAM APPROVED BY THE FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION. THIS PROGRAM IS CALLED THE “SYSTEM FOR THALIDOMIDE EDUCATION AND PRESCRIBING SAFETY (S.T.E.P.S.®).” UNDER THIS RESTRICTED DISTRIBUTION PROGRAM, ONLY PRESCRIBERS AND PHARMACISTS REGISTERED WITH THE PROGRAM ARE ALLOWED TO PRESCRIBE AND DISPENSE THE PRODUCT. IN ADDITION, PATIENTS MUST BE ADVISED OF, AGREE TO, AND COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE S.T.E.P.S.® PROGRAM IN ORDER TO RECEIVE PRODUCT.

2. VENOUS THROMBOEMBOLIC EVENTS
THE USE OF THALOMID® (thalidomide) IN MULTIPLE MYELOMA RESULTS IN AN INCREASED RISK OF VENOUS THROMBOEMBOLIC EVENTS, SUCH AS DEEP VENOUS THROMBOSIS AND PULMONARY EMBOLUS. THIS RISK INCREASES SIGNIFICANTLY WHEN THALIDOMIDE IS USED IN COMBINATION WITH STANDARD CHEMOTHERAPEUTIC AGENTS INCLUDING DEXAMETHASONE. IN ONE CONTROLLED TRIAL, THE RATE OF VENOUS THROMBOEMBOLIC EVENTS WAS 22.5% IN PATIENTS RECEIVING THALIDOMIDE IN COMBINATION WITH DEXAMETHASONE COMPARED TO 4.9% IN PATIENTS RECEIVING DEXAMETHASONE ALONE (P = 0.002). PATIENTS AND PHYSICIANS ARE ADVISED TO BE OBSERVANT FOR THE SIGNS AND SYMPTOMS OF THROMBOEMBOLISM. PATIENTS SHOULD BE INSTRUCTED TO SEEK MEDICAL CARE IF THEY DEVELOP SYMPTOMS SUCH AS SHORTNESS OF BREATH, CHEST PAIN, OR ARM OR LEG SWELLING. PRELIMINARY DATA SUGGEST THAT PATIENTS WHO ARE APPROPRIATE CANDIDATES MAY BENEFIT FROM CONCURRENT PROPHYLACTIC ANTICOAGULATION OR ASPIRIN TREATMENT.

ADDITIONAL WARNINGS:

Birth Defects: THALOMID® (thalidomide) can cause severe birth defects in humans. Because thalidomide is present in the semen of patients receiving the drug, males receiving thalidomide must always use a latex condom during sexual contact with women of childbearing potential, even if he has had a successful vasectomy. The risk to the fetus from semen of male patients taking thalidomide is unknown. Patients taking THALOMID® (thalidomide) should not share their drug with others or donate blood. Male patients taking THALOMID® (thalidomide) should not donate sperm.

Drowsiness and Somnolence: THALOMID® (thalidomide) frequently causes drowsiness and somnolence. Patients should be instructed to avoid situations where drowsiness may be a problem and not to take other medications that may cause drowsiness without adequate medical advice.

Peripheral Neuropathy: THALOMID® (thalidomide) is known to cause nerve damage that may be permanent. Peripheral neuropathy is a common, potentially severe, side effect of treatment with thalidomide that may be irreversible.

Dizziness and Orthostatic Hypotension: Patients should also be advised that THALOMID® (thalidomide) may cause dizziness and orthostatic hypotension and that, therefore, they should sit upright for a few minutes prior to standing up from a recumbent position.

Neutropenia: Decreased white blood cell counts, including neutropenia, have been reported in association with clinical use of THALOMID® (thalidomide). Treatment should not be initiated with an absolute neutrophil count (ANC) of <750/mm3.

PRECAUTIONS:

Hypersensitivity: THALOMID® (thalidomide) is contraindicated in any patients who have demonstrated hypersensitivity to the drug or its components.

Bradycardia: Bradycardia in association with THALOMID® (thalidomide) use has been reported.

Stevens-Johnson Syndrome and Toxic Epidermal Necrolysis: Serious dermatologic reactions including Stevens-Johnson syndrome and toxic epidermal necrolysis, which may be fatal, have been reported.

Seizures: Although not reported from pre-marketing clinical trials, seizures, including grand mal convulsions, have been reported during post-approval use of THALOMID® (thalidomide) in clinical practice. Patients with a history of seizures or risk factors for the development of seizures should be monitored closely.

Nursing Mothers: It is not known whether THALOMID® (thalidomide) is excreted in human milk. Because of the potential for adverse reactions in nursing infants, a decision should be made whether to discontinue nursing or the drug, taking into account the importance of the drug to the mother.

ADVERSE REACTIONS:

Multiple Myeloma

The most frequently reported serious adverse events in multiple myeloma patients (occurring in ?20% of patients treated with THALOMID® (thalidomide)/dexamethasone compared with dexamethasone alone) were: fatigue (79% vs 71%), hemoglobin (decreased) (78% vs 86%), hyperglycemia (73% vs 79%), hypocalcemia (72% vs 59%), constipation (55% vs 28%), sensory neuropathy (54% vs 28%), hyponatremia (43% vs 48%), muscle weakness (40% vs 37%), creatinine (35% vs 42%), leukocytes (decreased) (35% vs 29%), bone pain (30% vs 36%), neutrophils (decreased) (31% vs 24%), confusion (28% vs 12%), edema (57% vs 46%), dyspnea (42% vs 31%), thrombosis/embolism (23% vs 5%), anxiety/agitation (26% vs 14%), tremor (26% vs 6%), alkaline phosphatase (increased) (27% vs 28%), and rash/desquamation (30% vs 18%).

Other serious reported adverse events in multiple myeloma controlled clinical trials (THALOMID® (thalidomide)/dexamethasone vs. dexamethasone alone) were: hypokalemia (23% vs 23%), insomnia (23% vs 47%), depression (22% vs 24%), neuropathy-motor (22% vs 16%), fever (24% vs 20%), weight loss (23% vs 21%), weight gain (22% vs 13%), platelets (decreased) (24% vs 33%), anorexia (28% vs 25%), nausea (28% vs 23%), pain-other (25% vs 26%), headache (20% vs 23%), dry skin (21% vs 11%), and SGOT (increased) (25% vs 24%).

Erythema Nodosum Leprosum

Common adverse events reported in THALOMID® (thalidomide) treated patients in controlled clinical trials in ENL: somnolence (38%), rash (21%), headache (13%), asthenia (8%), malaise (8%), pain (8%), vertigo (8%), pruritus (8%), and impotence (8%).[/offsite:1zqr5yf5]

http://www.thalomid.com/thalomid_history.aspx

Wow. That's an amazingly dangerous chemical...

So I wanted to know naturally who Celgene are, considering the history and all. Going onto their site, I found the link below, the Board of Directors:

http://ir.celgene.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=111960&p=irol-govBoard

My there are some interesting names popping up in those histories. Glaxo Holdings, Johnson & Johnson, E Merck AG, J.P. Morgan, the Rockefeller University, General Electric Company, one is a former Commisioner for the US Food and Drug Administration...

I'll let you draw your own conclusions from that little list of highlights.

Jackinthebox
07-18-2009, 09:51 PM
And yet I can't get cold medicine and they are banning my grandma's pain pills. Big pharma are a bunch of evil bastards engineering society directly on a chemical level. I believe it is their intent to create two distinct races of human being, and to wipe out the rest of us in the process.

You know what commercial freaked me out a little the other day. The one where they now have a prescription drug to grow your eye lashes, with potential permanent side effects. I mean really, what the hell?

boycotteverything
07-18-2009, 09:55 PM
they now have a prescription drug to grow your eye lashesYou've gotta be shitting us!! Where can I get some of the crap? I always wanted long eyelashes!

Snow Crash
07-18-2009, 10:10 PM
And yet I can't get cold medicine and they are banning my grandma's pain pills. Big pharma are a bunch of evil bastards engineering society directly on a chemical level. I believe it is their intent to create two distinct races of human being, and to wipe out the rest of us in the process.

You know, they think we are the subhumans, the genetically inferior, the less civilised..... at least we dont wage chemical, psychological, informational, and environmental warfare on each other like they do to us.

boycotteverything
07-18-2009, 10:12 PM
yeah- but fuck if our lashes aren't too short...

Snow Crash
07-18-2009, 10:13 PM
yeah- but fuck if our lashes aren't too short...

Maybe she's born with it. Maybe it's Maybelline.

boycotteverything
07-18-2009, 10:15 PM
and as long as we're considering IG Farben- how about their Zyklon B? That was some useful shit.

http://www-sul.stanford.edu/depts/spc/exhibits/Images/51large.jpg
Yum!

Jackinthebox
07-18-2009, 10:23 PM
And yet I can't get cold medicine and they are banning my grandma's pain pills. Big pharma are a bunch of evil bastards engineering society directly on a chemical level. I believe it is their intent to create two distinct races of human being, and to wipe out the rest of us in the process.

You know, they think we are the subhumans, the genetically inferior, the less civilised..... at least we dont wage chemical, psychological, informational, and environmental warfare on each other like they do to us.

They think they're gods. Always have, for thousands of years. That it is their job to mold and shape society to their liking. And the real kicker is, they actually think they're doing a good job. I know some of these people, and that really is their mentality, that it is up to them to save the world, and that only they can do it. Meanwhile, it's all their meddling and posturing that's fucking everything up in the first place.

Snow Crash
07-18-2009, 10:24 PM
how about their Zyklon B?

I G Farben is a name synonymous with corporate profiteering from death and human misery.

Anyone new to seeing the world behind the world, and the hidden history, should familiarise themselves with it, and the sonsofbitches who profitted from it, and who continue its evil work.

Jackinthebox
07-18-2009, 10:26 PM
they now have a prescription drug to grow your eye lashesYou've gotta be shitting us!! Where can I get some of the crap? I always wanted long eyelashes!

x]mWoVT2cGoN0x]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWoVT2cGoN0

boycotteverything
07-18-2009, 10:28 PM
how about their Zyklon B?

I G Farben is a name synonymous with corporate profiteering from death and human misery.

Anyone new to seeing the world behind the world, and the hidden history, should familiarise themselves with it, and the sonsofbitches who profitted from it, and who continue its evil work.I agree. Those fuckers even give NAZIs a bad name.

Snow Crash
07-18-2009, 10:28 PM
They think they're gods. Always have, for thousands of years. That it is their job to mold and shape society to their liking. And the real kicker is, they actually think they're doing a good job. I know some of these people, and that really is their mentality, that it is up to them to save the world, and that only they can do it. Meanwhile, it's all their meddling and posturing that's fucking everything up in the first place.

I don't even see how the hell they can believe they are the good guys. Mass, and continual murder via war and chemicals, social division encouraged, dangerous to the planet with their industries...

Talk about deluded.

Jackinthebox
07-18-2009, 10:29 PM
and as long as we're considering IG Farben- how about their Zyklon B? That was some useful shit.

[img]http://www-sul.stanford.edu/depts/spc/exhibits/Images/51large.jpg[img]
Yum!

c]CV6j5F3AC7Mc]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV6j5F3AC7M

Jackinthebox
07-18-2009, 10:31 PM
I agree. Those fuckers even give NAZIs a bad name.

I think they ARE what gave the NAZIS a bad name.

Ducky
07-18-2009, 10:34 PM
yeah- but fuck if our lashes aren't too short...

Maybe she's born with it. Maybe it's Maybelline.

lolololol :lol:

Good one!

Mabey they're all in cahoots with each other's lineage?

Snow Crash
07-18-2009, 10:41 PM
maybe they're all in cahoots with each other's lineage?

What? You mean, are they all inbred? Why yes....

OH!

Sorry, my mistake. Yes, all these bloodlines are allied. As has been stated, they think they are Gods, and should rule on high, unchallenged. Us? We're not even ants, according to them.

lala
07-18-2009, 10:55 PM
Thalidomide was used for morning sickness in the late 50's early 60's here in NZ, until they were to many cases of children with missing limbs . . . My eldest brother was born in that era, he grew up with thalidomide kids, we use to go on trips with them, I can remember my mother slapping my face hard at 5yrs for pulling a face at the thought of having to feed this kid tied in a chair no legs, or arms, one arm stump to the elbow with a big claws put on it . . . she didn't want me to make the kid feel different . . . but I was scared and was freaking out that all these kids were so strange . . . all with different bits missing . . . I soon got over it :D . . . .but its bad and they know it . . . . depopulation plan in action maybe :thegeneral:

Ducky
07-18-2009, 11:38 PM
maybe they're all in cahoots with each other's lineage?

What? You mean, are they all inbred? Why yes....

OH!

Sorry, my mistake. Yes, all these bloodlines are allied. As has been stated, they think they are Gods, and should rule on high, unchallenged. Us? We're not even ants, according to them.



http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff284/CanuckyDucky/excellentbarfs1.jpg

boycotteverything
07-18-2009, 11:58 PM
I agree. Those fuckers even give NAZIs a bad name.

I think they ARE what gave the NAZIS a bad name.Well- you can't throw a worthwhile Teutonic barbecue without a decent marinade.

Jackinthebox
07-19-2009, 03:37 PM
I agree. Those fuckers even give NAZIs a bad name.

I think they ARE what gave the NAZIS a bad name.Well- you can't throw a worthwhile Teutonic barbecue without a decent marinade.

Oh snap!

guinnessford
07-19-2009, 04:17 PM
Prescott Bush also ran Union Banking Corp., wich Laundered Nazi gold and money.

Nice, Bush family's been at it for a long time.

And Giftgas: Zyklon-b what a gag gift, huh?

century
01-08-2010, 02:49 PM
http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/articles/bits/images/union-bank/prescott-bush.jpg

Bush NAZI link(PDF) (http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/articles/bits/images/union-bank/bush-nazi-link.pdf)

Lexion
01-08-2010, 02:53 PM
What about the Bush-Hinckley
connection ?

Has that ever been proven ?

Jackinthebox
01-08-2010, 03:04 PM
What about the Bush-Hinckley
connection ?

Has that ever been proven ?

Wasnt Bush having lunch with Hinkley's brother when the hit went down. And then of course there is the picture of Bush in front of the book depository building. Ask anyone else where they were when JFK was shot, and they can tell you every detail. Bush can't remember, when pressed.

Lexion
01-08-2010, 03:17 PM
Wasnt Bush having lunch with Hinkley's brother when the hit went down.

His dad, supposedly.

I think it's an urban myth.


And then of course there is the picture of Bush in front of the book depository building. Ask anyone else where they were when JFK was shot, and they can tell you every detail. Bush can't remember, when pressed.

Never seen that pic.

Which Bush ? Sr ?

Was he in Kennedy's Admin ?

century
01-08-2010, 03:17 PM
Some would dispute the bush picture because of the hair line, hard to tell.

century
01-08-2010, 03:20 PM
Was he in Kennedy's Admin ?

No he was in the oil business then, among others.

Jackinthebox
01-08-2010, 03:38 PM
No he was in the oil business then, among others.

He was with CIA at that point. I've seen the pic, I say it's him.

Jackinthebox
01-08-2010, 03:40 PM
http://tomflocco.com/Docs/63/BushJfkBookDepo2.jpg

Lexion
01-08-2010, 03:43 PM
Pic is too blurry.

And, if he were CIA, why
no be there ?

I see no conspiracy.

Jackinthebox
01-08-2010, 03:53 PM
Pic is too blurry.

And, if he were CIA, why
no be there ?

I see no conspiracy.

Well, I agree with you there to some extent. It's certainly not any sort of damning evidence. Just another in a long string of "coincidences." An image that becomes clearer as you step back, and stop looking at the pixels.

Cogburn
01-08-2010, 04:09 PM
OMG!

I think the guy standing to his right is Ronald Reagan! Look at the ear!

Jackinthebox
01-08-2010, 04:17 PM
OMG!

I think the guy standing to his right is Ronald Reagan! Look at the ear!

OMG, you suck as a shill.

guinnessford
01-08-2010, 04:48 PM
No he was in the oil business then, among others.


union bank corp, funded i.g.farben.

wich also made the jet fuel additive for the first nazi jets and rockets.

yeah, bushes have been suckin the life outta people way before gb1 was prez.

Cogburn
01-08-2010, 04:49 PM
OMG, you suck as a shill.

That's because I'm not one.

See how that works? You've just debunked your first conspiracy: Cogburn is not a shill.

skunk
01-08-2010, 04:52 PM
Cogburn is not a shill.

That's something a shill would say. Shill.

Cogburn
01-08-2010, 04:55 PM
Jackinthebox is actually a shill paid for by me in order to provide enough stupid commentary so that I might have ample opportunity to display my brilliant intellect and undaunted personality.

Jackinthebox
01-08-2010, 05:09 PM
Jackinthebox is actually a shill paid for by me in order to provide enough stupid commentary so that I might have ample opportunity to display my brilliant intellect and undaunted personality.

Still pissed that I fucked your bitch and made a gif out of it?

century
01-08-2010, 05:38 PM
He was with CIA at that point. I've seen the pic, I say it's him.
Ya few years off huh, could be him, the Bush family definitely has connections

Cogburn
01-08-2010, 06:07 PM
Still pissed that I fucked your bitch and made a gif out of it?I don't mind if my wife fucks other guys, for what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Although we both agree that we are to both maintain a certain level of taste, and unfortunately for you we both agree that that disqualifies you from the running.

century
01-08-2010, 06:12 PM
I don't mind if my wife fucks other guys, for what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Although we both agree that we are to both maintain a certain level of taste, and unfortunately for you we both agree that that disqualifies you from the running.


MMMMMMMMMMM Swingers:scratch:

Cogburn
01-08-2010, 06:13 PM
MMMMMMMMMMM Swingers:scratch:

Thelemites.

guinnessford
01-08-2010, 07:47 PM
i have a new found respect for you, ya fukkin pimp, you!

skunk
03-29-2010, 07:51 PM
Thread not for the weak of heart.

Snow Crash
03-29-2010, 11:23 PM
Classic

skunk
03-30-2010, 01:29 PM
You plan on editing your op?