Uni-planetary Evolution Theory

[The Antichrist]

Check out this link http://www.antichristversion666.com/thetheory.html To here about an amazing new perspective of our solar system!

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[Snow Crash]

Could you at least spell right if you fancy spamming Amkon?

[The Antichrist]

Could you at least spell right if you fancy spamming Amkon?
I'm not here to spam. I'm here to discuss My theory.

[Snow Crash]

[quote="Snow Crash":2ke628sd]Could you at least spell right if you fancy spamming Amkon?
I'm not here to spam. I'm here to discuss My theory.[/quote:2ke628sd]

Your thread came with a can-opener though...

[The Antichrist]

[quote="The Antichrist":1870o7u6][quote="Snow Crash":1870o7u6]Could you at least spell right if you fancy spamming Amkon?
I'm not here to spam. I'm here to discuss My theory.[/quote:1870o7u6]

Your thread cam with a can-opener though...[/quote:1870o7u6]
What does that mean?

[Snow Crash]

[quote="Snow Crash":2ylwolxj][quote="The Antichrist":2ylwolxj]
I'm not here to spam. I'm here to discuss My theory.

Your thread cam with a can-opener though...[/quote:2ylwolxj]
What does that mean?[/quote:2ylwolxj]


..................................never mind. Welcome to Amkon.

[The Antichrist]

..................................never mind. Welcome to Amkon.
That's better, HELLo! So... did you watch the vid?

[Cogburn]

Welcome to AmKon.

Smite cherry, raped.

Oh yes... I will take a stroll through your personal psychosis and will be getting back to you.

>:)

[The Antichrist]

Welcome to AmKon.

Smite cherry, raped.

Oh yes... I will take a stroll through your personal psychosis and will be getting back to you.

>:)
I'll be looking foward to it!

[theeindiee]

I find his theory interesting, and yes I've heard that before, but I'm not in a book buying mood right now. Sorry, man. I will discuss your theory with you, though!

My feeling on deja vu is that we, as individual consciousness units... are actually one consciousness unit, moving through all possible scenarios of all possible moments and events both micro and macro simultaneously, therefore deja vu is just our conscious minds catching a shadow glimpse of a parallel probability fields. It's not necessarily that this life is repeated over and over... but it IS necessary.... hmmm.... this brings up an interesting thought:

Back to the illusion of choice here again (torb!)..... IF indeed CHOICE an illusion, then for that illusion to work successfully there would need to be infinite parallel universes running in tandem with our own, and the "choice" we make here is simply the most compatible path of least resistance that must be taken in order for this specific congruent reality to maintain itself.

If indeed the single consciousness unit living within multiplicity of itself is true, than it IS possible that when we look out at the stars we are actually seeing an infinite path... ONE infinite path, looping around itself into infinity... and therefore YES, looking into the stars is literally like looking back or forth into your own past/future.

I dunno if I'm comfortable with what I've said here, but you've wrestled it out of me.

[theeindiee]

So the Anti-Christ... is the same as the Christ.... interesting to ponder if you are into such things as AntiChristdom.

[The Antichrist]

If you look closer you don't have to buy it. I also offer a free download with no strings attached ;{>

I believe that the universe is an assortments of alternate realities. That when we dream we experience those alternates because re respond to our own frequencies like a remote to a TV. I think the Antichrist could be the real Christ and all others may be the false prophets.

[GhostOfCaptSpaulding]

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[The Antichrist]

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LOL I was asked: If god could grant you one wish what would it be?

I answered Please god protect me from your followers!

[Eyeforalie]

You have your opener to your vid all wrong.

The Mayan calender does not state that there will be a "Doomsday" in 2012.

FAIL

Welcome to AmKon bitch.

[The Antichrist]

You have your opener to your vid all wrong.

The Mayan calender does not state that there will be a "Doomsday" in 2012.

FAIL

Welcome to AmKon bitch.
Touche!

[Eyeforalie]

So the Anti-Christ... is the same as the Christ.... interesting to ponder if you are into such things as AntiChristdom.

Like two opposing, parallel mirrors.

[Snow Crash]

OK..... so I watched the vid. A few questions, if I may:

1: How does Mercury expand and get such a complex atmosphere, if it is an Earth in making?

2: How does Mars turn into Jupiter? Someone use a planetary bicycle pump?

3: How does Pluto swing round to being near the Sun again?

4: How will Mars travel to Earth in time for 2012? What will make it move?

5: What about the Asteroid Belt?

6: How do the two moons of Mars, Phobos and Deimos, turn into the far larger, and more numerous moons of the gas giants?

7: If Mars is Earth 1 billion years in the future, and it got killed like we are supposed to, then what happened to the planet that killed Mars? Did what was left go and become a gas giant hundreds of times its size?

8: If Mars is Earth 1 billion years in the future, then what of the ruins allegedly littering its surface? Did some species survive the planet on planet action way back in the day?

9: Pluto has a moon, Charon. What happened to it in the course of evolving into Venus? Did it get misplaced?

Thank you for your time.

[Cogburn]

I don't wanna get all scary with math (yet) so I'll follow Snow's example and just stick to logic for a moment.

10. Does this mean Planet X doesn't and cannot exist, or is it the explanation of #2?

11. If #10 is the explanation for #2, I'm now even more interested to read your answer to #5.

12. Unlike the fossil record, you have no "missing links". Please indicate evidence for any transition between one planetary stage and another.

13. Please explain relevance then of the over 100 planetoids within our solar system. At what point is a body considered large enough to participate in your theory?

14. Why do some stars only have one planet if any at all, regardless of relative age to the sun?

15. Why does the transition between one planet and another have no effect on the surrounding bodies, be they planets, asteroids, moons, or other particulate matter in orbit around the sun?

16. Please describe the "first" planet, before these "ripples" were put into effect.

[The Antichrist]

OK..... so I watched the vid. A few questions, if I may:
Let me start off by saying this every thing that we know about our universe is speculative it is all theory. So I too will have to speculate. I'll try my best to explain.
1: How does Mercury expand and get such a complex atmosphere, if it is an Earth in making?


I believe that our planet is forever growing, and when it was a lot younger it was also a lot smaller. When we want to learn about our planet's history we must dig layers and layers below the surface. The deeper we go, the farther back in time we go. as for the complex atmospheric changes, the has under gone many drastic atmospheric change and every action has a reaction. The Earth is to believed to have been mostly carbon at some point and yet today there is very little, compared to when it was first being formed.

2: How does Mars turn into Jupiter? Someone use a planetary bicycle pump?

It is the transformation from mars to Jupiter that makes this theory very hard to believe and makes it very easy to distinguish the planets of our solar system as different planets. This will be the most confusing part of my explanation, but I will try my best. Lets say that between Mars and Jupiter instead of the inner asteroid belt we combine all that material together into one clump, now we have our missing link between Mars and Jupiter. It is a reputable theory that the inner asteroid belt at one time was a planet.


3: How does Pluto swing round to being near the Sun again?

I'm not sure about the question but I have two responses. the orbits of the planets are not consistent. Other bodies can create a reaction to with many different variables like gravity for instance. Anther point i would like to make is that it is debatable whether or not Pluto is a planet or a large asteroid.

4: How will Mars travel to Earth in time for 2012? What will make it move?


I believe that at some point Jupiter will ignite transforming it into Saturn At the same time fulfill three biblical prophecies. The sun will turn black (like the moon during the day) the moon will turn blood red from the reflection of Jupiter burning and the explosion will push the inner asteroids and mars charging toward Earth thus the prophecy of it raining fire from the sky.


5: What about the Asteroid Belt?



6: How do the two moons of Mars, Phobos and Deimos, turn into the far larger, and more numerous moons of the gas giants?

7: If Mars is Earth 1 billion years in the future, and it got killed like we are supposed to, then what happened to the planet that killed Mars? Did what was left go and become a gas giant hundreds of times its size?

8: If Mars is Earth 1 billion years in the future, then what of the ruins allegedly littering its surface? Did some species survive the planet on planet action way back in the day?

Very good question Because it was actually the pyramids on mars that made me realize the planets are all one. I believe the pyramids built in the orion's belt formation are indeed the same exact pyramids as the one built on Earth. They are man-made mountains, made to last the test of time. If we were going to try to prove mars is earth in the future, we would try to find some kind of geological reference but because the planets are so far apart in time the planets would look very different because of erosion. So we would need some kind of man made geological reference point a man-made mountain.

9: Pluto has a moon, Charon. What happened to it in the course of evolving into Venus? Did it get misplaced?


I'm not sure what you mean. I don't believe that Pluto will evolve into Venus but i do believe that mercury will.
Thank you for your time.

[GhostOfCaptSpaulding]

And what time is it?

[The Antichrist]

I don't wanna get all scary with math (yet) so I'll follow Snow's example and just stick to logic for a moment.
Prophecy implies that someone will come and transform our perception of what we believe is logic.

10. Does this mean Planet X doesn't and cannot exist, or is it the explanation of #2?

I believe planet x can exist and I have not done a lot of research on it yet to incorporate it into this theory. Maybe you have a suggestion? ;{>
11. If #10 is the explanation for #2, I'm now even more interested to read your answer to #5.

12. Unlike the fossil record, you have no "missing links". Please indicate evidence for any transition between one planetary stage and another.

I don't know why we can see the planets in those stages only. I believe the answers will be found in quantum physics through the explanation of atoms and electrons and how they can exist many times at the same time( the sun being the nucleus and the planets being electrons.)

13. Please explain relevance then of the over 100 planetoids within our solar system. At what point is a body considered large enough to participate in your theory? Everything has relevance.

14. Why do some stars only have one planet if any at all, regardless of relative age to the sun?

I believe every billion years the sun spit out a planet. and solar flares or lack of is the baby kicking.

15. Why does the transition between one planet and another have no effect on the surrounding bodies, be they planets, asteroids, moons, or other particulate matter in orbit around the sun?

16. Please describe the "first" planet, before these "ripples" were put into effect.

[The Antichrist]

From a Google cache (search "Cloise Orand"):

Violent Crime Victim Turns Life Around

Cloise Orand is a business owner and now has written a novel.
By TRAVIS BAKER, tbaker@kitsapsun.com
October 9, 2005

Port Orchard -- Youthful Port Orchard businessman Cloise Orand doesn't remember the hours he spent on the operating table in 1987, being sewn back together as one of three victims of one of Kitsap County's most grisly crimes.

For that matter, he doesn't remember being found by police and medical rescuers, near death in a clearing near Dickey Road in Central Kitsap where he and two girls had been brutalized by Daniel Yates, a Bremerton tattoo artist now serving a 60-year sentence in an out-of-state prison for the attacks.

Orand's tongue nearly had been cut out and his cheeks slit outward from the corners of his mouth. He'd been shot once in the back and sexually assaulted.

He was 13, a runaway who had been living in vacant houses he and the two girls — also runaways — would break into. One girl died two months later of injuries suffered that day. The other's throat was slashed, but like Orand, she survived.

Orand, now 31 and the owner of four businesses, says the attack is "something I actually left back then and never really dwelled on."

Yet he recreates the violent Sept. 17, 1987, attack in nearly exact detail in a science fiction novel he has written and hopes to have made into a movie.

His main character, Mabus, the unfairly vilified Antichrist, is about his age and shares many of Orand's life experiences. But in the novel, he is the only victim of the brutal attack. The girls aren't mentioned.

Called "The Antichrist, Version 666," the novel is due out soon, at $24.95 a copy.

Orand was an unlikely candidate to be a business success or an author in his younger days.

Even after being nearly murdered by the man who picked up him and the girls up hitchhiking, he went back to the life of a runaway. He also resumed his Navy Yard City paper route for this newspaper as something of an inadvertent celebrity.

"The tips were good after that," he said. "I'd start with a bag of papers and come home with a bag of presents."

He made prosecutors nervous as a key witness in a murder trial because his whereabouts were never certain.

But he did testify, with the same detachment with which he still tells the story, detailing the atrocities committed against him matter-of-factly.

As an adult, Orand became a valued worker in the rough-and-tumble world of roofing but still lived life on the ragged edge.

In the midst of a custody battle with the mother of his two oldest children, "I was going out a lot, clubs and what not," he said. "Despite a decent income, it was spent before I got my check, I was in serious debt, using marijuana and alcohol.

"I had a box of comics and sleeping bag to my name, I was living on friends' couches.

"About eight years ago, I realized I was good at making poor choices. When my mind tells me I want to do it, it's probably the wrong choice and if it required discipline and integrity, that's probably the path I should take. So rather than blaming everybody else for my outcome, it was time I started making better choices."

He and Mike Holbrook left the Hanley Construction roofing crew and formed their own business, later adding Tom Cowan as an owner. Orand says he also has formed two property management firms to handle rentals as well as Port Orchard Publishing, which is publishing "The Antichrist, Version 666."

His wife, Michelle, played a key role in his reclamation, giving him reason to stay home and out of clubs, he said.

"She was a bit of a challenge to court," he said.

Until recently, Orand had become something of an absentee owner of Cloise and Mike Construction, which mostly does roofing jobs. Its bright yellow trucks are a fixture in downtown Port Orchard.

He was spending most of his days at home with Michelle, baby Savannah, 3-year-old Alexander, and, on weekends and in the summer, 11-year-old twins Stefan and Christopher. He watched a lot of the Discovery and Science channels, spent time online and read science magazines.

But the Mike in Cloise and Mike left the company Friday to start his own business, Orand said, so he's back at it full time.

[The Antichrist]

And what time is it?

10.00 pm

Peanutbutter Jelly Time!

[GhostOfCaptSpaulding]

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[Eyeforalie]

http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/facepalm.jpg

[Cogburn]

You have a reason to be crazy... I got that from your website. It still doesn't mean that anything you say is grounded in any sort of verifiable reality.

Here's my suggestion on Planet X: Don't bother because it doesn't exist. Sitchin is a hack and can't read Sumerian. His translation of VA243 is utter bullshit, debunked on these very forums.


I don't know why we can see the planets in those stages only. I believe the answers will be found in quantum physics through the explanation of atoms and electrons and how they can exist many times at the same time( the sun being the nucleus and the planets being electrons.
This statement is blatantly incorrect and I would like you to please cite the exact theories that you are using to support your hypothesis. I'm compelled to say that we won't deal have to deal with the math just yet, but then I guess we can't use logic since prophecy is supposed to change all that, right? So do you then have math to support the application of those selected theories to your hypothesis? Are you working on it? Post what you have so far.


I believe every billion years the sun spit out a planet. and solar flares or lack of is the baby kicking.
Unfortunately, you're only half-correct. The first 25 elements found on the periodic table are indeed generated by stars... but only when they explode. In fact, the only process in the entire universe that can create gold is the exploding of a star.

"Popping out" planets is a process you will have to describe in more detail if you are going to maintain that to be reality because it doesn't fit what we've observed happening in the universe.

[century]

Hey Cog whats up with the japanamation you have for an avatar, looks like a cartoon wacko jacko would get into,
are you and Kacen lovers?
And aren't those girls a little young

[Cogburn]

viewtopic.php?p=110235#p110235 (http://www.amkon.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=110235#p110235)

[The Antichrist]

You have a reason to be crazy... I got that from your website. It still doesn't mean that anything you say is grounded in any sort of verifiable reality.


That maybe true!

Here's my suggestion on Planet X: Don't bother because it doesn't exist. Sitchin is a hack and can't read Sumerian. His translation of VA243 is utter bullshit, debunked on these very forums.


I don't know why we can see the planets in those stages only. I believe the answers will be found in quantum physics through the explanation of atoms and electrons and how they can exist many times at the same time( the sun being the nucleus and the planets being electrons.
This statement is blatantly incorrect and I would like you to please cite the exact theories that you are using to support your hypothesis. I'm compelled to say that we won't deal have to deal with the math just yet, but then I guess we can't use logic since prophecy is supposed to change all that, right? So do you then have math to support the application of those selected theories to your hypothesis? Are you working on it? Post what you have so far.

I don't have any math to support my theory. I'm merely just a carpenter with a vision. As far citing the exact theories that support my idea I would rather not hunt them down but based off of your replies I'm sure you have heard of electrons existing many times at the same time and what makes it possible for them to do so? I believe that our solar system is based off the same set of laws just more magnified at least to us. Someone or something looking at us through a microscope may interpret us (our solar system) as a mere atom.
[quote:3f5fg5z8]I believe every billion years the sun spit out a planet. and solar flares or lack of is the baby kicking.
Unfortunately, you're only half-correct. The first 25 elements found on the periodic table are indeed generated by stars... but only when they explode. In fact, the only process in the entire universe that can create gold is the exploding of a star.

"Popping out" planets is a process you will have to describe in more detail if you are going to maintain that to be reality because it doesn't fit what we've observed happening in the universe.[/quote:3f5fg5z8]

[Cogburn]

I don't have any math to support my theory. I'm merely just a carpenter with a vision. As far citing the exact theories that support my idea I would rather not hunt them down but based off of your replies I'm sure you have heard of electrons existing many times at the same time and what makes it possible for them to do so? I believe that our solar system is based off the same set of laws just more magnified at least to us. Someone or something looking at us through a microscope may interpret us (our solar system) as a mere atom.
Understand that for as absolutely bat-shit crazy as your collected information makes you out to be were to you believe it to be true, I am about to be as forthright as possible without being a complete dickhead. I say and do this because you seem to be an honest enough fellow that may actually take some of this to heart.

No one will ever take you seriously because of the above quoted passage. For the sake of argument, let's just say I have more than a passing interest in quantum physics and a better than lay understanding of the theories.

I'm indeed familiar with electron clouds, if that is to what you are referring. The problem with any further extrapolation from that theory into what you present is that it simply is not in evidence anywhere in the universe.

Quantum physics is fun. It provides for all sorts of things that we once thought impossible, possible. Sorcery, telepathy, time travel, telekenisis, etc... all within our grasp... some of it already in our grubby little ape hands.

However the one thing to which all flights of quantum fancy must eventually provide is an accurate description of what the universe seems to be doing. If the universe doesn't act the way that you're mathematics says it should... it's wrong. It doesn't matter if it is properly executed from an accepted theory, it's still wrong.

For instance, I can use Kepler's equations to produce an orbit for Saturn that will send it crashing into Jupiter in 50,000 years. However when we actually measure the orbit of Saturn we see that it simply isn't the case, therefore my math is wrong.

The majority of the things that you utilize to support your flight of fancy are exactly those kinds of seemingly logical extrapolations. Math comes first, logic comes second. Otherwise you end up with unicorns and Annunaki instead of torsion fields and Casimir energy.

[The Antichrist]

"As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain, as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality."

"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction."

"Imagination is more important than knowledge."

Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."

"The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education."

"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."

"Education is what remains after one has forgotten everything he learned in school."

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."


"Now he has departed from this strange world a little ahead of me. That means nothing. People like us, who believe in physics, know that the distinction between past, present, and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion."




Albert Einstein

[Cogburn]

You abuse his witticisms as badly as his physics.

Einstein wept.

[skunk]

Dead people don't cry.

[Lexion]

My eyes are bleeding.

Bloody,
Lex

[The Antichrist]

http://www.sciencecodex.com/new_map_hints_at_venuss_earthlike_past

[theeindiee]

Uh oh.... a carpenter with a vision. I might be a carpenter with a vision, too, ya know... Wanna enter the BeastChristAthalon to fight to the death over who is the more worthy ChristBeast?

I think your theory would work if you completely ignored all observable laws that we can surmount are governing our observable universe....

but it is interesting to note that the most interesting people who make some of the most interesting theories are the ones who are crazy enough to do so. It's also worth saying that you have to be humble enough to destroy your own ideas several times in order to raise them more purified and substancial than before.

I think you're onto SOMEthing, but are trying to explain it in perhaps the wrong way. Join the ChristBeast club.

[theeindiee]

I'm saying kind of what Cog is saying... only I personally find your theory romantic, so I would like to tell you that... while your theory is romantic, perhaps your theory is an unconsciously constructed allegory for you to look deeper into the meaning of. If you wanna know it from the bottom upwards, you've gotta keep diving.

I am What I Will, but I am not quite sure of my True Will yet, therefore I don't assume that any of my knowledge is truth. I assume it is a cleverly characterized veil of allegory..... you get what I'm saying? Use the crazy theories like gateways to other crazy theories until you find a crazy theory that starts alligning itself with the manifestation of the Will. It's telling you something, but be careful not to take it for what it seems like it's telling you. There may be bits and pieces of truth hidden in its body, but the trace amounts of gold won't be harvestable for reconstitution until a later time when that particular body is dead.

It is too convenient to stop early and write a book and gain a following. Perhaps I will never write a book or claim towards others a Path to the Truth. I feel like I COULD write a book and make a theory fit well enough to where it is believable to enough people, including myself, to make me feel at ease... but personally, I doubt everything I know is true. I doubt I would want to know that everything I know was true. The point is to find questions, not answers.

The answer... is another question. The day I stop having questions, I am DEAD.

[pack3tg0st]

10 INPUT X
20 If X = "crazy judeo-christian religious theology based conspiracy"
30 THEN GOTO 60
40 PRINT "invalid input, please get crazier"
50 END
60 PRINT "Please explain further, you have my undivided attention!"
70 GOTO 10

[Snow Crash]

Apologies for the delay in response... having one of those days...



Let me start off by saying this every thing that we know about our universe is speculative it is all theory. So I too will have to speculate.

The Prosecution Rests.




Actually, nah, let's do it anyways:


[quote:7932lt3i]1: How does Mercury expand and get such a complex atmosphere, if it is an Earth in making?

I believe that our planet is forever growing, and when it was a lot younger it was also a lot smaller. When we want to learn about our planet's history we must dig layers and layers below the surface. The deeper we go, the farther back in time we go. as for the complex atmospheric changes, the has under gone many drastic atmospheric change and every action has a reaction. The Earth is to believed to have been mostly carbon at some point and yet today there is very little, compared to when it was first being formed.[/quote:7932lt3i]

Sooooooooooo where does this extra mass come from? And also, you ARE aware what Mercury has by way of ANY 'atmosphere', right? How does that evolve into what Venus has?


[quote:7932lt3i]2: How does Mars turn into Jupiter? Someone use a planetary bicycle pump?

It is the transformation from mars to Jupiter that makes this theory very hard to believe and makes it very easy to distinguish the planets of our solar system as different planets. This will be the most confusing part of my explanation, but I will try my best. Lets say that between Mars and Jupiter instead of the inner asteroid belt we combine all that material together into one clump, now we have our missing link between Mars and Jupiter. It is a reputable theory that the inner asteroid belt at one time was a planet.[/quote:7932lt3i]

Sooooooooo if I understand what you're saying, and please correct me if I have in some manner misunderstood your attempt at explaining this, you mean that Mars, alias Earth+1 billion, will explode, then clump together to form a gas giant? A primarily hydrogen gas giant will form from the asteroid belt? Where will that gas come from?


[quote:7932lt3i]3: How does Pluto swing round to being near the Sun again?

I'm not sure about the question but I have two responses. the orbits of the planets are not consistent. Other bodies can create a reaction to with many different variables like gravity for instance. Anther point i would like to make is that it is debatable whether or not Pluto is a planet or a large asteroid. [/quote:7932lt3i]

The question is quite simple. Imagine you have a conveyor belt with planets on it. Pluto is about to fall off the end. So how does it get back on the front of the conveyor belt? Teleport? Wormhole? Bus? Horseback?


[quote:7932lt3i]4: How will Mars travel to Earth in time for 2012? What will make it move?

I believe that at some point Jupiter will ignite transforming it into Saturn At the same time fulfill three biblical prophecies. The sun will turn black (like the moon during the day) the moon will turn blood red from the reflection of Jupiter burning and the explosion will push the inner asteroids and mars charging toward Earth thus the prophecy of it raining fire from the sky.[/quote:7932lt3i]

I seeeeeeeee....... What will ignite Jupiter? What will turn the sun black? Are you aware that the Sun is GIGANTIC compared to Jupiter, and that even an ignited Jupiter would be like a candle in daylight compared to the Sun? Also, forget raining fire, it will rain fucking rocks the size of Africa. And that's not even counting Mars or the larger planetoids in the Asteroid Belt. What about the asteroids in the belt that happen to be on the far side of the Sun? Will the blast from the ignition of Jupiter be enough to force Mars from its orbit into a collision course with Earth at such a velocity as to make it arrive in approximately three years? Will Saturn, alias Jupiter+1 billion, be affected by the blast? And finally, and here's the real kicker, the blast would have to be timed perfectly to ensure that Mars is set on a collision course with Earth, so the question is, how will Jupiter know when to ignite? Or will someone do it? And if so, who?

I see questions five, six AND seven were not answered, so, assumptions on what that may indicate aside, let's go on to the next one you answered:


[quote:7932lt3i]8: If Mars is Earth 1 billion years in the future, then what of the ruins allegedly littering its surface? Did some species survive the planet on planet action way back in the day?

Very good question Because it was actually the pyramids on mars that made me realize the planets are all one. I believe the pyramids built in the orion's belt formation are indeed the same exact pyramids as the one built on Earth. They are man-made mountains, made to last the test of time. If we were going to try to prove mars is earth in the future, we would try to find some kind of geological reference but because the planets are so far apart in time the planets would look very different because of erosion. So we would need some kind of man made geological reference point a man-made mountain.[/quote:7932lt3i]

So did some species survive the planetary collision and build them? Or do you mean to tell me the pyramids on Mars, plus places like the city at the bottom of Tithonia Chasma, survived an impact from a Planet, PLUS hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of asteroids ONE BILLION (count those zeros) years ago, and are still around today? Have you ever studied the Pyramids of Earth properly? Have you seen the wear and tear they have picked up over only a few thousand years? I am sure you are aware of the staggering difference between a few thousand years, and a billion plus.


[quote:7932lt3i]9: Pluto has a moon, Charon. What happened to it in the course of evolving into Venus? Did it get misplaced?

I'm not sure what you mean. I don't believe that Pluto will evolve into Venus but i do believe that mercury will.[/quote:7932lt3i]

So what happens to Pluto then?

[The Antichrist]

I don't believe that Pluto is a planet.

How does mars become Jupiter. it will get very confusing but i will try my best. I believe the planets are different times the planet existed at some point in it's existence mars was never destroyed and was the planet that now makes up the inner asteroid belt. Then that planet (the missing link) Evolved in to Jupiter in order for Jupiter to evolve into Saturn it has to explode when it explodes it pushes mars into earth and turns earth into mars and turns mars into the inner asteroid belt. kinda like if I (Jupiter) went back in time and murdered my grandfather (Mars) before my father (the missing link) was born.


I believe the pyramids are so eroded due to rain and flooding. After 2012 there will be no more water on the planet just like mars. Therefore less wear and tear over time especially when it is blanketed with a mile of sand.

You asked how can mars suffer such an impact without affecting the pyramids don't take my word for it. Here is a link. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25371078/

[The Antichrist]

I can't tell you how Jupiter will ignite. but our solar system our universe is like a giant pool table and a scratch can happen at any time. You ask if we do it. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d1c_1182028327 I thought the title of the project was very Ironic ;{>

[The Antichrist]

There is a way to test this theory. We just need to build a pyramid near the ones in Giza the biggest pyramid ever built. Just like back to the future at the end when Marty's parents kissed and he looked at the photo of him and his sibling magically appearing, We should be able to look at mars(Earth's future photo) and see it appear.

[Snow Crash]

I dunno how to tell you this, but this theory.... well, I think this picture may help describe it quite accurately:

http://blakeyrat.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/fail.jpg

[The Antichrist]

LOL! OK, I get it!

Just wait till the movie comes out.

Maybe it will look better on the big screen!

[Snow Crash]

LOL! OK, I get it!

Just wait till the movie comes out.

Maybe it will look better on the big screen!

Maybe.

You do have some big holes to fill though. As has already been pointed out, you can't ignore maths and logic here.

BTW, if your movie needs a villain, I can play the baddie:

http://honeymilk.crismarques.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/14652-5002.gif

I demand that either Sienna Miller or Kate Beckinsale play my sexy henchwoman though.

[The Antichrist]

The villain is a woman. I used my personal life as the main character it's based off true events. it's fast paced and a very easy read most people zip through it in a few days. it has immortals and shapeshifters explained through nanotechnology, and best of all it's free! ;{>

[The Antichrist]

You don't strike me as the villian type ;{>

[The Antichrist]

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/sm/custom/afptofkb.bmp

[Snow Crash]

The villain is a woman. I used my personal life as the main character it's based off true events. it's fast paced and a very easy read most people zip through it in a few days. it has immortals and shapeshifters explained through nanotechnology, and best of all it's free! ;{>

Well how about you make Sienna Miller or Kate Beckinsale the evil villainess, and I can play her loyal henchman of planet juggling evilness?

Call my agent.

[Snow Crash]

You don't strike me as the villian type ;{>

Well.............. thanks? Not sure if I should be offended or flattered there.... lol

[The Antichrist]

[quote="The Antichrist":35offspc]You don't strike me as the villian type ;{>

Well.............. thanks? Not sure if I should be offended or flattered there.... lol[/quote:35offspc]
:lol: Don't be offended!

[The Antichrist]

I suggested Angelina or Charlize Theron

[century]

Brooks Agnew is on C2C with an update on his Hollow Earth expedition right now

[The Antichrist]

Wonderful my theory really sounds that unbelievable. What happened to the concept of anything is possible? :lol:

[Cogburn]

"I should teach the world that science is driven by truth, and is accountable to reality. Quite simply, if you try to build a machine based upon a faulty premise, it does not work. "
- Tracey Brown

[Eyeforalie]

Welcome to AmKon homie.

You've just been owned. Take it for what its worth.

Youve stepped into a magical place. If you can take honest opinions stick around.

You seem like the type that is willing to learn. Indee said it best.

[lala]

Kia ora Antichrist, nice tale . . . . welcome to amkon, no ones shy here, so good luck :smokin:

ps . . . can you write in a easier colour to see, I had to hunt me spec out, cheers :wink:

[The Antichrist]

What is funny to me.... so many science books, right at this moment, state as a matter of fact, that Earth is the only planet in our solar system with tectonic plates ;{>
Science needs to get it's facts straight. Out perception of fact is changing everyday.
http://www3.imperial.ac.uk/earthscienceandengineering/research/iarc/theplanets/platetectonicsonvenus

[Cogburn]

What's funny to me is what some people think science is supposed to be or do... but it's never presumed to have all the answers, just the best answers that can be deduced from the best facts available at any given time.

[theeindiee]

I'm not so inclined to look at what science says and believe it, either.

I can't (more like don't wanna) measure a hadron, whatever that is... nor could (nor would) I collide any hadrons. I am stupid enough that I am not even sure a hadron is anything other than a name for something really expensive...

BUT

With that being said... I stick with what I know and can verify somehow with some sort of relative experience. I think you'll find that you can know a lot more if you stop pretending to know just because you are stubborn. Science may be full of dogma... but dogma is a good place to start digging. Not just announcing "Here's a spot in the middle of the ocean. Let's build a house." just because it's something way out there. Chances are you'll drown that way, and either you'll be the only one... or you'll be like that bastard Gabriel of Urantia, and you'll take a bunch of lost LSD burnouts with you.



NOT saying that you are stubborn...

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[The Antichrist]

God bless you!




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[Ima Nasshole]

God bless you!




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I think we have a Lear sock!

[Cogburn]

ROFL... no... just the same disease.

You can't reason with crazy. Don't bother.

[The Antichrist]

The question is, Is time a fundamental property of reality or just the macroscopic appearance of things? I would say it’s only a macroscopic effect. It’s something that emerges only for big things.”


By “big things,” Rovelli means anything that exists much above the mysterious Planck scale. As of now there is no physical theory that completely describes what the universe is like below the Planck scale. One possibility is that if physicists ever manage to unify quantum theory and general relativity, space and time will be described by some modified version of quantum mechanics. In such a theory, space and time would no longer be smooth and continuous. Rather, they would consist of discrete fragments—quanta, in the argot of physics—just as light is composed of individual bundles of energy called photons. These would be the building blocks of space and time. It’s not easy to imagine space and time being made of something else. Where would the components of space and time exist, if not in space and time?

As Rovelli explains it, in quantum mechanics all particles of matter and energy can also be described as waves. And waves have an unusual property: An infinite number of them can exist in the same location. If time and space are one day shown to consist of quanta, the quanta could all exist piled together in a single dimensionless point. “Space and time in some sense melt in this picture,” says Rovelli. “There is no space anymore. There are just quanta kind of living on top of one another without being immersed in a space.”

Rovelli has been working with one of the world’s leading mathematicians, Alain Connes of the College of France in Paris, on this notion. Together they have developed a framework to show how the thing we experience as time might emerge from a more fundamental, timeless reality. As Rovelli describes it, “Time may be an approximate concept that emerges at large scales—a bit like the concept of ‘surface of the water,’ which makes sense macroscopically but which loses a precise sense at the level of the atoms.”

Realizing that his explanation may only be deepening the mystery of time, Rovelli says that much of the knowledge that we now take for granted was once considered equally perplexing. “I realize that the picture is not intuitive. But this is what fundamental physics is about: finding new ways of thinking about the world and proposing them and seeing if they work. I think that when Galileo said that the Earth was spinning crazily around, it was utterly incomprehensible in the same manner. Space for Copernicus was not the same as space for Newton, and space for Newton was not the same as space for Einstein. We always learn a little bit more.”


http://discovermagazine.com/2007/jun/in-no-time/article_view?b_start:int=0&-C=

[The Antichrist]

The past present and future all exist at the same time in one existence. We measure time by the location we are from the sun at that given moment. Its Friday evening here and Saturday morning in Ney York and In Australia it’s Saturday evening. Yet it exist right now. I'm curious, what time is it on Mars? What day is it? What do you think?

[Cogburn]

Time is a measurement of the rate of change of the universe.

Specifically speaking, were one to view the 3rd and 4th dimensions from the perspective of the 5th, you'd observe 3rd dimension objects as undulating snakes starting at the moment they were created and disappearing the moment they were destroyed... or reduced to component atoms, which would then have their own "snake tails"... etc... all "snaking" through the 4th dimension of time.

Contrary to your thinking, time does not exist "all at once".

[The Antichrist]

Time is a measurement of the rate of change of the universe.

Specifically speaking, were one to view the 3rd and 4th dimensions from the perspective of the 5th, you'd observe 3rd dimension objects as undulating snakes starting at the moment they were created and disappearing the moment they were destroyed... or reduced to component atoms, which would then have their own "snake tails"... etc... all "snaking" through the 4th dimension of time.

Contrary to your thinking, time does not exist "all at once".


Because time does not exist at all?


What is the date on mars and is there a way to measure it with an equation?

[Snow Crash]

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[The Antichrist]

You make me wish, I had three Hands!

[Snow Crash]

You make me wish, I had three Hands!

Haha! Touche.... nicely done.

Have a smite courtesy of the Amkon Total Recall Appreciation Society (ATRAS)

[skunk]

How many copies of books have you sold?

[The Antichrist]

How many copies of books have you sold?

Lets just say I've given away more than I have sold.
I've only just recently started to advertise it. I wrote it to adapt it to a movie script. I'm working now on the movie. The books is really cool, I made it to look exactly like a bible. Very controversial. I did a book signing at the first Barnes and Nobles in new york on 06/06/06

;{>

[Cogburn]

Time is a measurement of the rate of change of the universe.

Specifically speaking, were one to view the 3rd and 4th dimensions from the perspective of the 5th, you'd observe 3rd dimension objects as undulating snakes starting at the moment they were created and disappearing the moment they were destroyed... or reduced to component atoms, which would then have their own "snake tails"... etc... all "snaking" through the 4th dimension of time.

Contrary to your thinking, time does not exist "all at once".


Because time does not exist at all?


What is the date on mars and is there a way to measure it with an equation?You do what we do on Earth.

Pick a moment and say that is the "start"... and begin counting.

[The Antichrist]

There is no way to reference it with the moment we have chosen on earth?

[The Antichrist]

Say we chose today at 1200 to start our count is it 4 hour b.c. in new york?

[Snow Crash]

There is no way to reference it with the moment we have chosen on earth?

BC and AD and BCE and whatnot are just socio-religious start dates for calender counting.

Hence why the Muslim calender is different, etc....

[skunk]

Antichrist, can you not type in red? Its really fucking obnoxious. Thanks.

[The Antichrist]

Sorry, but I can not. If you don't like it, you don't have to read it. it's not like I'm posting in YOUR thread or anything. I'm not trying to be rude, but I just can't see how someone can make a demand against my civil liberties because of their own discomfort, I think that is really fucking obnoxious!
;{>

[Cogburn]

There is no way to reference it with the moment we have chosen on earth?
Nope.

As the flow of time is influenced by gravity, only those areas of space in which the force of gravity are 100% equal will have the same flow of time.

Mars and Earth have different gravities, therefore the flow of time is different.

Your velocity through space also effects your flow of time. That's true even on the surface of the Earth. A person traveling along a highway at 80MPH actually has time move a fraction of a fraction of a second slower than a person standing still. It could be said that we age slower than previous generations because previous generations could not alter their speed through time any greater than the speed of a horse or a ship.

EDIT: The best you could do is stand in one spot and point to Mars and say "That is Mars right now."... Except that it's not since it takes 3 minutes for light from Mars to reach Earth...


Say we chose today at 1200 to start our count is it 4 hour b.c. in new york?
Sure, all you have to do is get everyone else to agree and you're good to go.

[theeindiee]

You are playing dice with a firey inferno, AntiChrist.

What IF... quantum theory, when fully realized to the mind... destroyed all semblance of sense and motivation that you had?

If change (time) did not exist, and everything was everything else, and there was only One Truth.....

You could never kill yourself. I guarantee you, once everything is unified in a Grand fucking theory of All is One, then you've lost all reason to live. You've lost all reason to live, but you've lost all ability to die. Imagine how much that would suck.

[The Antichrist]

I believe in alternate realities and we create alternate realities and alternate realities create other alternate realities. Those realities need a space to exist. I understand that it is believe the exist here and now in other dimensions. But, I had this theory that the universe is expanding because of those alternate realities and expanding faster and faster from those alternate realities creating other alternate realities.

http://www.robsworld.org/notime1.png

When we dream could we actually be retrieving those frequencies from those alternate realities because our current reality is uneventful?

[The Antichrist]

You are playing dice with a firey inferno, AntiChrist.

What IF... quantum theory, when fully realized to the mind... destroyed all semblance of sense and motivation that you had?

If change (time) did not exist, and everything was everything else, and there was only One Truth.....

You could never kill yourself. I guarantee you, once everything is unified in a Grand fucking theory of All is One, then you've lost all reason to live. You've lost all reason to live, but you've lost all ability to die. Imagine how much that would suck.
I'm not sure that "all is one" is so disturbing. Knowing that everything is connected and that you play a role in it's existence is very humbling and honorable. It dilutes the greed for glory!

[Cogburn]

If change (time) did not exist, and everything was everything else, and there was only One Truth.....
There are plenty of truths that quantum physics reveals... not just one...

* I am you and we are the stars.
* Perspective is everything.
* Change is constant.
* Time is an arbitrary yardstick that which we use to measure the rate of change.
* We know nothing.


When we dream could we actually be retrieving those frequencies from those alternate realities because our current reality is uneventful?
The 6th dimension is the dimension in physics where quantum waveforms begin existence. Think of it like the dimension from which all of the possible permutations of the universe are derived.

What you're discussing is a view from the 7th dimension... the ability to perceive quantum waveforms in all possible states of collapse. To drastically understand things, it's the ability to view "all possible change" simultaneously.

[The Antichrist]

Could dreams be observing only one of those waves of possibility as the observer. Could we be mentally tapping in or transporting to that reality temporarily. It seems so real but yet so different. The events that take place in a dream seem as if they exist in an alternate reality.

[Cogburn]

That would be a piece of the undiscovered country of the nature of our existence, wouldn't it?

[theeindiee]

[quote]If change (time) did not exist, and everything was everything else, and there was only One Truth.....
There are plenty of truths that quantum physics reveals... not just one...

* I am you and we are the stars.
* Perspective is everything.
* Change is constant.
* Time is an arbitrary yardstick that which we use to measure the rate of change.
* We know nothing.


When we dream could we actually be retrieving those frequencies from those alternate realities because our current reality is uneventful?
The 6th dimension is the dimension in physics where quantum waveforms begin existence. Think of it like the dimension from which all of the possible permutations of the universe are derived.

What you're discussing is a view from the 7th dimension... the ability to perceive quantum waveforms in all possible states of collapse. To drastically understand things, it's the ability to view "all possible change" simultaneously.[/quote:3fzumtu4]

Many people couldn't cope with staring that directly in the face.

Basically we said the same thing, only you made it slightly more numinous. Which isn't bad at all.

Thank you.

[skunk]

Sorry, but I can not. If you don't like it, you don't have to read it. it's not like I'm posting in YOUR thread or anything. I'm not trying to be rude, but I just can't see how someone can make a demand against my civil liberties because of their own discomfort, I think that is really fucking obnoxious!
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First things first. It was a request for you to change the color, not a demand. However, I will personally edit every red post you make into legible text if you would like me to do that.

Second, in no way would that infringe on your right to free speech. In fact I would be further supporting your right to express yourself as we all would be able to read your text better.

I simply wish to be able to read what you write, and I think many others here would agree the colored text is hard to read.

If you don't like the way things work here, then leave. No hair off my back. If you would like to further discuss your theories, I am asking you to cut the color shit.

Thanks.

[GhostOfCaptSpaulding]

What color shit was it?

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'cause we got all your colors here...

Real salt of the earth; nothing pretentious or overbearing about those colors, eh?

[Cogburn]

First things first. It was a request for you to change the color, not a demand. However, I will personally edit every red post you make into legible text if you would like me to do that.

Second, in no way would that infringe on your right to free speech. In fact I would be further supporting your right to express yourself as we all would be able to read your text better.

I simply wish to be able to read what you write, and I think many others here would agree the colored text is hard to read.

If you don't like the way things work here, then leave. No hair off my back. If you would like to further discuss your theories, I am asking you to cut the color shit.

Thanks.
Could you not just feel the restraint being played here?

Smite for the Herculean strength of will you have just displayed.

[mojo]

stevie.....you should hook up with antichrist, i have a feeling you 2 will get along together just great. :)