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Ducky
07-12-2009, 04:34 PM
Always facinated by Christ's words.

For me personally, I'm not a stickler as to who the man really was, as so much as the meaning behind the messenger.

When I hear the words..."Suffer the children", it has a double entendre. Such was the way with Christ's parables. There was always two ways of viewing his words. Boxes within boxes. It makes us mere mortals reach beyond our contemporary and safe thoughts and beliefs.

It's not the fact that he was asking for little physical people to come unto him, but also those who haven't hardened their hearts to the teachings of men.

Like the military.

You're probably thinking, "What the hell?!!?"

Well, there's a certain age where the military will accept people into their fold. Anytime after that, people are just 'unmoldable'. They're too wise to the ways of the world. Can't be trained. The military wants to get folks like a fresh piece of clay (that's hardly been used or hardened) so they can break the person down (mentally) and build them back up to their standards.

Christ was talking about people's mentalities, and sending out the invitation.

If we substituted the words 'the children' in the phrase: "Suffer the children unto Me", and replaced it with the words 'those who want to learn', we see an entirely new approach to this line of reasoning.

"Suffer those who want to learn unto me"

Children are young and impressionable, and are very open to learning, as opposed to adults who are set in their ways.

Thoughts anyone?

boycotteverything
07-12-2009, 04:36 PM
yeah. they should avoid douchebags.

Ducky
07-12-2009, 04:39 PM
yeah. they should avoid douchebags.

please explain

boycotteverything
07-12-2009, 04:40 PM
self explanatory

skunk
07-12-2009, 04:41 PM
He's trolling again. Its that time of the month. And he was doing so well too!

Cogburn
07-12-2009, 04:43 PM
Isn't the danger in reading the scriptures ascribing reasoning to allegory that wasn't intended by the speaker or the author?

Not to suggest that this is what is going on in this case, but how can you be sure that isn't where you're headed?

boycotteverything
07-12-2009, 04:44 PM
english, please

Ducky
07-12-2009, 04:44 PM
He's trolling again. Its that time of the month. And he was doing so well too!

What do you think of my thoughts in my OP Skunk?

Ducky
07-12-2009, 04:52 PM
Isn't the danger in reading the scriptures ascribing reasoning to allegory that wasn't intended by the speaker or the author?

lolol There's always a danger in whatever we read out there. If what I told you was the absolute truth and started shouting from the rooftops to b e l i e v e it as the absolute truth, then I'd expect you to think I was verifyibly insane. Probably no better than the zealots who pull the same card out of the deck to prove their stance. Such isn't the case.

I merely extracted words to help you see what I'm seeing at this time. No different than citing Shakespeare or anyone else.


Not to suggest that this is what is going on in this case, but how can you be sure that isn't where you're headed?

Where I'm headed? Hmm...for all I know, I could be wrong with this analogy. All I did was stretch my imagination a tad and explored options that I'll bet not ANYONE of you thought when I created my OP.

That's the beauty of taking the bounderies away. Free to explore our thoughts to many degrees.

Gotta love it.

theeindiee
07-13-2009, 12:47 PM
Maybe it means that when the children suffer, the adults it makes are wiser. The more trial by fire, the more tempered the steel.

Sounds good to me. Okay, let's GO!

sidenote (mostly to throw duck's thread offcourse):

Does anybody remember that Obama rally where he was all hyped up at the end of his speech, and he was like "Yes we CAN! Okay, let's go!" and he like marched off stage like he was bill cosby on crack and nobody followed him?

Or was that just my imagination?

boycotteverything
07-13-2009, 01:06 PM
...allow me to troll a bit further here.

The Jebbies say it this way: 'Give us a child until he is six years old and we will have him for life.' I've also seen it said that '...and we will give him life.' The truth of either take is subject to debate but certainly that's what Jesus had in mind. It's also the case that in the Jewish tradition of his time the education of a young child was solely entrusted to the mother. So in making the statement Jesus was certainly breaking with tradition. That early education was considered to be of critical importance in Jewish life- so much so that it was also tradition that Judaism is passed down maternally rather than genetically- (which further puts to the lie that Jews ever considered themselves a race.)

mojo
12-19-2009, 10:03 PM
perhaps it means that those that will really suffer are the children when exposed to christianity.

Lexion
12-19-2009, 10:12 PM
Oh shit.

Mojo is candy-flipping again.

Or, just bored, like me. :)

mojo
12-19-2009, 10:18 PM
Oh shit.

Mojo is candy-flipping again.

Or, just bored, like me. :)


none of the above....just free. :D

Lexion
12-19-2009, 10:20 PM
Heard that shit !!!!!!

Bump, mother fucker !!!