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Cogburn
07-09-2009, 03:41 AM
Ok... This is just a repost of the information on Macedoniaonline.eu from another thread. (http://www.amkon.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=7409&p=110030#p110030)
I wanted to give it its own thread because this site is quoted all the fucking time because it posts continuous unsupported nonsense that CT'ers love. Not just English speakers, either.
Interesting that macedoniaonline.eu is hosted by the same service as AmKon.
Researching the WHOIS info yielded a few more websites from these dudes.
Mark Abramoff? Really?
The address in New York would be dead center of Jamaica Bay.
"Skopje" is a province in Macedonia... "091" is the area code.
http://www.vmacedonia.com/
His Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/skopje091
His LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/pub/goce-basevski/b/593/a26
Some Greek is pissed about the domain name. (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=el&u=http://www.greekalert.com/2008/11/blog-post_13.html&ei=CI1VSsyQK92ptgeTrrHQAg&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://akritas-history-of-makedonia.blogspot.com/2008/11/macedoniaonlineeu.html%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff)
[offsite:3hspar3a]Goce Basevski’s Summary
I have 7 years of marketing and advertising experience. Before joining New Moment, I worked at the Annual Giving Office at the American University in Washington, DC. My role as a manager and supervisor at the American University Office of Alumni Giving included administration of the department policy for the purpose of maximizing the financial resources acquired from university, alumni, and friends. I also managed AU supervisors and organized various office functions. Moreover, I hired and trained over 20 employees during his supervising experience, and managed to reach a goal of over $250,000 in pledges during his senior year. Upon graduation, I joined the regional airline company Air Service in Skopje, where I was in charge of the Marketing Department. I completed an extensive research and created a marketing plan using advertising, sales promotion, direct marketing and public relations. This called for a very intense communication with local agencies, which media and advertising helped me establish some contacts that I still nourish. Currently I’m working as an Account Director at New Moment, the oldest and most experienced advertising agency in Macedonia. As an Account Director I’m handing big clients such as Cosmofon, Imperial Tobacco-TKS, and Germanos. At the same time, I’m handling the New Moment office in Pristina, Kosovo.
Goce Basevski’s Specialties:
Marketing and Advertising[/offsite:3hspar3a]
Not a news source I would quote often. :)
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Cogburn
07-09-2009, 04:08 AM
He interviewed himself?
[offsite=http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/5198/49/:277ilcxs]Latest on MINA vs Athens Lobby Groups
Dear readers, as some of you noticed, MINA was not accessible via Yahoo & Google news for around a week. This was due to activities by Snowe's office and the Greek lobby group known as 'Pan Macedonia'.
For this purpose we sat down with MINA's editor Mark Abramoff, to give us the latest.
MINA: Lets get down to it, what is the latest?
"We were notified by Yahoo and Google that they were investigating us, due to complaints received. Frankly, we weren't surprised, as these were the same people who tried to (as hard it is to believe) unregister our domain name.
MINA: How did that go and how did it happen?
Obviously, it didn't work for them, as a matter of fact, we first registered macedonia.eu. The matter went to the highest levels via godaddy.com and the main EU domain provider. We were the first ones to get it, but Athens got involved, pulled major strings (laughs: Greeks taxpayers money at work), and the EU domain folks decided to blacklist the domain, so now, no one has it. We thought they would blacklist macedoniaonline.eu as well, however, someone at the EU felt we should have it. Godaddy was stunned by the whole thing (Greek Govt. getting involved) and kept apologizing to us, even though we registered it fair and square.
MINA: Tell us about Snowe and 'Pan Macedonia' with Yahoo and Google.
I feel bad for the Greek lobby in the U.S. and Canada, and I feel even worse for the interns working in Snowe's office. Apparently, these people are not fans of ours because our content seems to create some kind of a breach in the way they are wired, so by fraudulent and deceiving means they thought they can pressure Yahoo and Google into removing us from their News Sources. That was their mistake no.1. It’s not a good thing to try and manipulate the two grand masters of the internet. Their plan as usual, was to send emails from Snowe’s office, that way the email seems ‘important’, and will add additional pressure on Google & Yahoo.
MINA: And they seriously believed this would work?
They must have. One, they have nothing better to do, it appears Snowe’s interns primary job is to send emails, make phone calls and pressure anyone and anything that says, supports Macedonia or Macedonian organizations in any way. Look at the UMD with the credit cards and the pressure put on the US Bank to cancel the credit card with the Macedonian sun! If I am not mistaken, that also came from Snowe's office. The sickening part is that Ms. Snowe is abusing her office. She was elected to serve Americans, however she is serving the Greek Government and works very closely with Greek lobby groups.
Long story short, both Yahoo and Google investigated and sided with us 100%, especially upon discovering the history of manipulation and deceit by Greek radical lobby groups, particularly on the net, trying to remove Macedonian websites, retake Macedonian domains, and would do and say anything just to accomplish their goal.
This is why all of our news articles (7 days worth) appeared at once everywhere, because we had that investigation period.
Plans in the future?
No plans, who makes plans these days?(laughs). We just like to thank both Google and Yahoo, true example for organizations and frankly institutions who not just wont allow to be manipulated and pressured by anyone, but would stick with you and support you 100%.
We are hoping Google and Yahoo will block ip's of organizations who have attempted to manipulate them and wont be able to access Google and Yahoo. That'd be great. We have already started blocking of users who we feel they shouldn't have access here.[/offsite:277ilcxs]
Bankin' those ad dollars like ATS....
Visitors to MINA
June: 1,560.408 unique
June: 2,280.906 pageviews
Cogburn
07-09-2009, 04:30 AM
[offsite:2m5lu6q2]Macedonia Online USA
address: 48 Congress Blvd South
02097 New York, NY
phone:
+1 212 501 0985
James N.[/offsite:2m5lu6q2]
New York Contact "James N" is suspected to be James Nadeau (http://www.linkedin.com/in/jimimage). Based on the moniker "jimimage" being linked to this specific "James N" living in NYC... and in Brooklyn, no less.
Facebook. (http://www.facebook.com/jimimage)
Yelp (http://www.yelp.com/user_details?userid=YBS93AevK7DhYduud_pH2A)
WarlordZeroOne
07-09-2009, 06:54 AM
Hey Cog the amount of stuff you Digg-up is good,what i mean is, you know them Scientology guys who dig-up all the shit on different people,and use it to make them look bad in the public eye,thats the kind of Digging i mean,and i am not being funny,you really know where to surf,thought i was OK at scroting around can't touch you though,i mean Macedonia,i worked with a Macedinian in West Germany in 82 said he could not go back for political reasons,fuck me he was a Lazy fucker,called him Tom.some Bum info. lol
For those that aren't aware, there is a general dispute regarding the naming of Macedonia and the adoption of the sun star in the flag, as that has some association with the ancient kingdom of macedon, of which Phillip and then Alexander ruled, one of history's great empires.
This seems to be the crux of the dispute between the above mentioned site and the Greeks.
It's actually pretty amusing.
Macedonia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonia)
[offsite:22lg0nig]After the breakup of Yugoslavia in 1991, the name of Macedonia became the object of a dispute between Greece and the newly independent Republic of Macedonia.[28] In the south, the Republic of Macedonia borders the region of Greek Macedonia, which administratively is split into three peripheries (one of them comprising both Western Thrace and a part of Greek Macedonia). Because of that, Greece raised the issue of possible territorial aspirations and also historical concerns regarding the association of the country with the history of the Greek region.
From 1992 to 1995, the two countries also engaged in a dispute over the Macedonian state's first flag, which incorporated the Vergina Sun symbol, a symbol associated with the ancient Kingdom of Macedon. Its adoption by Macedonia, on 3 July 1992, was seen as a reaction by Skopje to Athens' pressure to change the name. This aspect of the dispute was resolved when the flag was changed under the terms of an interim accord agreed between the two states in October 1995.
The flag of the Republic of Macedonia between 1992 and 1995.
The United Nations adopted the provisional reference "the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia" (Macedonian: ????????? ????????????? ????????? ??????????) when the country was admitted to the organization in 1993.[29] Most international organizations, such as the European Union, the European Broadcasting Union, and the International Olympic Committee, adopted the same convention.[30][31][32][33][34] NATO also uses the reference in official documents but adds an explanation on which member countries recognize the constitutional name.[35] The same reference is also used in any discussion to which Greece is a party[36] but is inconsistently used by other countries. Bulgaria uses the name ‘Republic of Macedonia’ even if it is seen as interfering with the traditional use of the name ‘Pirin Macedonia’,[37] insisting however that any solution to the naming dispute with Greece should "take account of the historical, cultural, and other realities related to the geographic region of Macedonia".[38]
However, most United Nations member countries have abandoned the provisional reference and have recognised the country as the Republic of Macedonia instead. These include four of the five permanent UN Security Council members—the United States,[39] Russia, United Kingdom and the People's Republic of China; several members of the European Union such as Bulgaria, Poland, and Slovenia; and over 100 other UN members.[40] The UN has set up a negotiating process with a mediator, Matthew Nimetz, and the two disputed parties, Macedonia and Greece, to try to mediate the dispute. Negotiations continue between the two sides but have yet to reach any settlement of the dispute.
Initially the European Community-nominated Arbitration Commission's opinion was that "that the use of the name Macedonia cannot therefore imply any territorial claim against another State",[41][dead link]; despite that Greece continued to object to the establishment of relations between the Community and the Republic under its constitutional name.[42]
In November 2008, Macedonia instituted proceedings before the International Court of Justice (ICJ) against Greece alleging violations of the 1995 Interim Accord that blocked its accession to NATO.[43] The ICJ is requested to order Greece to observe its obligations within the Accord, which is legally binding for both countries. The Macedonian side asserts that Article 11 of the 1995 accord obliges Greece not to object to Macedonia's application to join NATO and other international organizations, except if the country is going to be referred to in such organization with a name different than the provisional reference.[44]
In April 2009 the President-elect Gjorge Ivanov and opposition leader Zaev held a meeting about the name issue. Ivanov called for a state strategy regarding the negotiations with Greece on the name issue and also called for a reasonable compromise that will not bring harm to Macedonia's interests. SDSM accepts a name with a geographic determinant that will replace the reference FYROM in the organizations where it is currently used and guarantee the country's constitutional name, national identity and language.[45] Government of Greece expressed support for the name ‘Republic of North Macedonia’ as the basis for resolving the name issue.[46][/offsite:22lg0nig]