View Full Version : Worse this time around?
pack3tg0st
07-06-2009, 11:57 PM
So I have to ask you guys... Does the political mudslinging and lying seem worse in recent times than it has in past elections?
I'm talking specifically the desperate attempts to defame Obama by putting together posters and such...
Seriously... look at some of these:
http://www.patriotscreed.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/obama-nazi.jpg
http://neveryetmelted.com/wp-images/ObamaNazi.jpg
http://seekeronos.blogsome.com/images/ObamaDope.jpg
You get the idea...
I honestly don't understand how anyone with any sort of perspective on history can compare Obama to the Nazis or Hitler... but that aside...
Does this seem to be worse than in the past? Are the Republicans just that bad at losing gracefully?
Seriously, the absurdity of the "propaganda" against Obama is actually working against the artist... It makes the people who tout this look like fools...
If you have a serious gripe, than fuck, gripe responsibly... all this SS/Nazi/Hitler shit is just trying to provoke hatred.
Anyone else think its worse? or is it just me and my limited experience...
boycotteverything
07-07-2009, 12:37 AM
This shit's been going on since day one.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Ma_ma_wheres_my_pa.jpg
Where's my pa, Grover? hahahaha
And let's not forget this-
http://www.sonofthesouth.net/revolutionary-war/patriots/pictures/burr-hamilton-duel.jpg
Burr and Hamilton duel. Remember?
Tom had his haters, too-
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/jefferson/images/vc140.jpg
Will the real Hitler please stand up?
http://sedition.com/img/b/h/bush-hitler.jpghttp://www.patriotscreed.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/obama-nazi.jpg
pack3tg0st
07-07-2009, 12:59 AM
Yah, I know its been around forever and ever and then some...
But I was thinking of the "Extreme" nature of the mudslinging...
It seems much worse than with bush...
but perhaps that is because the minority that are the true nut bags are louder than before...
I dunno.
boycotteverything
07-07-2009, 01:19 AM
I do know what you're saying. There's the additive of racism towards Barack. It seems always to be a subtext of the right wing attacks. But didn't we know this would happen? The racist pricks will always be with us.
pack3tg0st
07-07-2009, 01:22 AM
Yah... but you can't tell them that there are subtle undertones of racism lol
Then they get pissed and freak out...
but yah, i know what you're sayin' lol
Eyeforalie
07-07-2009, 02:11 AM
Will the real Hitler please stand up?
Smite
Its all another separation tactic.
Who are the artists?
They are all computer generated...
WarlordZeroOne
07-07-2009, 02:24 AM
Where there is Smoke, There is Fire. we have to make our own minds up,thats if your mind still belongs to You.
Eyeforalie
07-07-2009, 02:45 AM
Collective thought bro.
Stop bein a downer
WarlordZeroOne
07-07-2009, 03:04 AM
OK i'll pop a couple of uppers see how i go on then,personally prefer the upper stuff the kind that makes you go Faster, and the sort you get coaught on those cameras for in your car.
Eyeforalie
07-07-2009, 03:25 AM
I can tell.
Cogburn
07-07-2009, 06:04 AM
Relevant bit at about 1:45.
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pack3tg0st
07-07-2009, 11:22 AM
That can't be right...
I'll have to look into it, but I imagine the GOP only sponsored the event... and wacko fuckheads came up with the sign...
Thats horrible politics if the GOP really did pay for the sign...
and I LOLed at ACORN=SS lol They apperently don't know what the SS were...
If you stop and think... Blackwater is about as close to SS as we've gotten... and they still aren't being used against our own (yet).
boycotteverything
07-07-2009, 11:31 AM
If you stop and think... Blackwater is about as close to SS as we've gotten... and they still aren't being used against our own (yet).They will if we ever let those repugligan bastards back in power.
pack3tg0st
07-07-2009, 11:34 AM
repubs and democrats are the same damn thing with different labels these days...
here's hoping that a third party comes into play since the republicans seem to be lost in the woods...
boycotteverything
07-07-2009, 11:40 AM
repubs and democrats are the same damn thing with different labels these days... It's tempting to conclude that but it's not entirely true. If the repuglicans are the party of Limbaugh and the democrats are the party of Obama, how are they the same? - Only to the extent of the natural continuation of institutional politics. That will take time to change. But we're beginning to see some cracks in the facade. Keep the faith, baby!
pack3tg0st
07-07-2009, 11:54 AM
If a light burns out in the capital building, the Democrats want to form a government agency responsible for changing it...
The republicans want to privatize the process, and contract out to a civilian firm to change the light bulb...
I want someone who will get a damn ladder and change it themselves...
boycotteverything
07-07-2009, 11:56 AM
fuck it. let it stay burned out.
pack3tg0st
07-07-2009, 12:00 PM
Carter had Solar Panels installed on the white house roof...
Regan had them removed...
The precedent was set.
we need the Libertarian party or the Constitutionalist party on top.. (if the Constitutionalist party even still exists...)
boycotteverything
07-07-2009, 12:41 PM
maybe we'd better off with the people 'on top' for a change.
Snow Crash
07-07-2009, 01:24 PM
I am by no means a fan of the republicunts, and I was prepared to give Obama the benefit of the doubt, despite raging cynicism telling me he'd just be more of the same. Just give him a chance, see if he would shock us by getting in, then doing something good, in spite of his masters, and all that wishful thinking lol. But since he took over, there's been far too much to lay to rest my initial doubts.
If anything, Obama's actions have only fanned the flames of mistrust. He's just an illusion, sent by the same bastards that gave us Dubya and Dick and Blair and Broooooone and Sarkozy and............ well, you get the idea. And because I dislike him, doesn't mean I fall into the same boat as these retard republicunts who dislike him for all the WRONG reasons, ie racism, party political divides, idiotic rumours of religion, religion itself, moronic rumours that he is a "one man terror cell" as some stupid bitch called him once. As I have said before, he's a soldier in an army, and his masters are the people collectively known as the Elites.
Or NWO if you're just getting into this stuff.
theeindiee
07-07-2009, 02:03 PM
You only get what you give.
I'll bet if people started changing their lives for the better from personal outwards, that the right politicians would fall into place... because a nation of people who truly control their own destinies is a nation of kings, and should be treated as such. Now.... with conspiracy theory as the alternative head to the two party puppet show, we have even greater degrees of insecure pussies and tantrum toddlers latching onto any excuse imaginable to curb the blame AWAY from themselves. Why do you have a shitty life? Because YOU accept it. Why don't things change? Because you haven't changed them yet. "Be the change you wish to see in the world"....
Yes, WE are to blame. Anyone who accepts the illusion of control will get handed even greater and greater degrees of the illusion until they finally get indigestion and puke it up.
The only thing which is goping to fix this mess is self responsibility, and the only thing keeping that from happening is a whole massive population's worth of a bunch of lame excuses. If there is no immediate way, you fight through the fog and you find a way.
I guarantee you, there are people all around you who feel like they need to take trheir lives back into control. There are ALWAYS options. In a universe of infinite possibility, "can't" is not good enough.
boycotteverything
07-07-2009, 03:47 PM
I dislike himThere's the start of the problem. Had you said, 'I mistrust him,' I may have understood. Do you know American history? Obama is, in itself, change. Don't get it? ...oh well
skunk
07-08-2009, 08:30 PM
If you stop and think... Blackwater is about as close to SS as we've gotten... and they still aren't being used against our own (yet).
Tell the residents of NOLA that.