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WarlordZeroOne
07-05-2009, 05:29 AM
Well i think he is going to get what he Deserves,and that will be the rest of his life behind Bars.
www.abcnews.com (http://www.abcnews.com)






Alleged Nazi Guard Demjanjuk to Stand Trial
He is Accused of Aiding in the Murder of 29,000 Jews at the Sobibor Death Camp
By CHRISTEL KUCHARZ
PASSAU, Germany July 3, 2009
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Alleged Nazi death camp guard John Demjanjuk has been declared fit to stand trial on charges that he was an accessory to the murder of 29,000 Jews during World War II, German prosecutors announced today.

On Feb. 28, 2005, file photo, John Demjanjuk arrived at the federal building in Cleveland for an...
On Feb. 28, 2005, file photo, John Demjanjuk arrived at the federal building in Cleveland for an immigration hearing. German prosecutors say doctors have determined that John Demjanjuk is fit to stand trial over allegations that he was an accessory to murder at a Nazi death camp.
(Mark Duncan/AP Photo)The 89-year-old Demjanjuk, from Cleveland, was deported to Germany almost two months ago by U.S. immigration authorities.

"The medical tests have been concluded, and we have been given the green light to put John Demjanjuk on trial, Munich state prosecutor Anton Winkler told ABC News.

Upon his arrival in Germany, an ailing Demjanjuk was taken to the medical facility at Munich-Stadelheim prison, where he underwent a thorough physical evaluation and was treated for various health problems.

It wasn't until today, however, that prosecutors were able to announce that Demjanjuk was found fit to stand trial, although with the stipulation that his court appearances not exceed 90 minutes per session.

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Hitler's European Holocaust HelpersFacing Demons: Nazi Death Camp Guard Back in GermanyFormer Nazi Guard to Germany Tuesday"We can now follow up on our arrest warrant, which accuses him of being an accessory to the murder of 29,000 Jews and others during World War II at the Sobibor death camp," Winkler said.

Demjanjuk arrived in Germany in May of this year after a legal tug-of-war that began seven years ago.

In 2002, a U.S. judge revoked his U.S. citizenship based on evidence showing he had concealed his service as a guard at a Nazi death camp when he applied to become a U.S. citizen in 1958.


A U.S. immigration judge ruled in 2005 that Demjanjuk could be deported to Germany, Poland or the Ukraine to stand trial, but German prosecutors in Munich issued an arrest warrant for him only in March of this year.

"Our experts from the Bavarian State Office of Criminal Investigation had only recently verified the validity of Demjanjuk's identification card, which puts him in the Sobibor camp, a death camp in then Nazi occupied Poland," Winkler explained.

"The identification card is only one of many pieces of evidence against him, but it is an important one. There are also witnesses who will testify that Demjanjuk was a member of the so-called Vlasov Army, a group of Russian volunteers who did the Nazis' dirty work in the death camps in the occupied areas of Eastern Europe. We expect to formally charge him later on this month."

Foxtrot Oscar
07-05-2009, 05:52 AM
He's in the Autumn of his years, as all of them are now.

Yes lots of people died.

Raggin on about it won't change shit, not now.

Educate the masses yes. Hunting down the few that may still remain is a waste of time, energy and money and it proves dick.

Move on people.

Fox

lala
07-05-2009, 06:17 AM
I'm incline to agree Fox they already tried to do him in the past and its been over turn . . . .
He was found guilty in 1988 of war crimes and crimes against humanity, a conviction that was later overturned by the Israeli Supreme Court when new evidence showed another man was likely the Treblinka guard, allowing Demjanjuk to return to the United States a free man. . . . .

They've had a go, got it wrong once, move on . . .

KIWI
07-05-2009, 06:36 AM
been looking for a book (online) that I read while back, thought it was called "the hand that rocked the cradle", not according to the intra-tubz, anyway , it was written by an Australian author, goes like this,......grand-daughter of accused Nazi is a writer, she is on her way to work one morning when she hears on the news an arrested Nazi war crim is her grand-dad!, she is blown clean away, cannot grasp the idea as her memories are of a kindly sweet old man, the story jumps back in time to the Ukraine?.....when grandad was a small kid, they were peasents more or less, basically they were living under the yolk of enforced communism, he watched his brothers and sisters die from starvation during one particularly cold winter, as well as witnessing all the other atrocities inflicted by the state, so 20? or so years later when the SS battallions rolled through his village and asked..." any-one here want to come and kill some communists?".........

not saying this has any relevance to your OP WZ0, but just an interesting angle to this, I thought, :smokin:

Oblivion
07-05-2009, 07:57 AM
what should happen to this "Bastard" ??

he should get the same treatment that guards at Gitmo + abu ghraib got.....

let off scott free because "dredging up painful wounds wont help our future" (obama's words, not mine)

you cant revoke, deport + prosecute other people for war crimes while you sweep your own under the carpet and hope they are ignored.

fucking hypocricy of the us gubmint

boycotteverything
07-05-2009, 10:39 AM
you cant revoke, deport + prosecute other people for war crimes while you sweep your own under the carpet and hope they are ignored.This is a German prosecution, not American. American hypocrisy does not apply. And I don't see Germany 'sweeping anything under the carpet.' They are proactively facing down the daemons of their recent past. Looks like they might need to rebuild Spandau.

I've read, on this site, some of the most vengeful imaginable diatribes against murderers, molesters and other bad guys. Why not this one? Are 29,000 murders somehow less despicable than one or two? And, that, even if the murderer has managed to evade the hangman for 60 years? I'll throw down with the Warlord on this one. Big time.

pack3tg0st
07-05-2009, 11:31 AM
He's been living in the U.S. apparently...

The U.S. could grant him political asylum and try to get him released into their custody... Probably siting some bullshit about "double jeopardy" and our constitution or something or other...

I mean... seriously... this shit happened 60 fuckin' years ago...

Grant him amnesty, and get him to write a "tell all"... He's probably got information that will further our understanding of that time period in general...

Instead, if you let him live in fear of further prosecution, he's likely to never talk about it again...

WarlordZeroOne
07-05-2009, 11:43 AM
I hear you all, and its a BIG yes lets move on,But at the end of the day if,and i say IF this man is Guilty,then the punishment should fit the crime,and Finally for me the most important factor above all else, there are still a lot of people alive today who went through HELL via men like this one,(if Guilty)
Justice must be served,But if there is any Doubt the man must walk FREE.

boycotteverything
07-05-2009, 11:47 AM
if you let him live in fear of further prosecution, he's likely to never talk about it again...The prosecution will happen and he'll have the opportunity to testify in his defense. The simple fact that he managed to evade his date with lady justice for 60 years in no way mitigates his guilt or innocence.

boycotteverything
07-05-2009, 11:48 AM
Justice must be served,But if there is any Doubt the man must walk FREE.And that is the only issue. Smite for nailing it.

Foxtrot Oscar
07-05-2009, 01:56 PM
Can't we just find a big chunk of the Berlin wall and nail David Hasselhoff to it and call it quits.

Surely then the world would be a much better place.

I agree that Justice needs to be served, but WWII needs a freaking line put under it. Those that do remain, and believe me I will always remember them, will not be having that much time with us. This time should be spent in the arms of love, not being constantly reminded of the evil that so nearly engulfed our race.

Fox

boycotteverything
07-05-2009, 02:01 PM
OI! ...and as if there's no love at Spandau. Just calm down and go on about your business. I don't have time for another fully sick boy. Bastard.

theeindiee
07-05-2009, 02:02 PM
Live and let die. Only words I trust.

Foxtrot Oscar
07-05-2009, 02:06 PM
OI! ...and as if there's no love at Spandau. Just calm down and go on about your business. I don't have time for another fully sick boy. Bastard.

Turn it up real loud... I fucking belt this out down at the OK!

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boycotteverything
07-05-2009, 02:13 PM
it's the leather pants, isn't it?