The Micro-chip I.D.

[WarlordZeroOne]

we have all heard about it they do it already in the U.K. to dogs and cats,its on its way for us AmKonites and the rest of us,then at any given time that eye in the sky will have your number pumped in and it will say "Warlord is located at Martha's Brothal on Fuck street" well i don't like it, but as usual how can we stop it, WE CAN'T, you know that old argument about defeatism etc,and the authoroties will justify the methods for our own SECURITY and that covers every avenue, even Fuck street. :projectile:

[pack3tg0st]

but as usual how can we stop it, WE CAN'T, you know that old argument about defeatism etc,and the authoroties will justify the methods for our own SECURITY and that covers every avenue, even Fuck street.

The majority of people give up power by simply believing they never had any to begin with.

You have power, mate... All people have power... Don't let them convince you that you're powerless...

Once they do that, you've lost.

[WarlordZeroOne]

Oh pack i am not powerless, when the Judge sends you to jail,how the fuck is my power going to help me,apart from surviving the sentence,thats what i mean when i say we are fucked.

[pack3tg0st]

thats the trick Warlord...

No one can really force you to do anything...

You just have to weigh the consequences...

You can break the law all you want... if you get caught, you go to jail...

I guess its all where your principles are.

[hp]

No one can really force you to do anything...

The CIA wouldn't agree with that statement.

[Cogburn]

Causes cancer.

Can't get FDA approval.

Imlpanted RFID chips are dead.

Besides... Facebook, Twitter, MySpace, Bebo, Hi5...

Who needs a microchip when you track yourself?

[WarlordZeroOne]

My cats are alive and well,so the chip cannot affect animals,wonder if the same applies to Monkey's,another thing Cog you know and i know if it causes cancer they will find an alternate way of tracking us all.

[Alessandra]

Cog's got it right. Why chip us when they track us via social networking?

[WarlordZeroOne]

Yes, Yes, but not every Mother Foooker is networking,and they will not let anyone get through the NET,as in net and internet.

[Alessandra]

well yeah, the simplest way would be to just stop using those sites and clean your hard drive of all cookies/spyware/adware

[Lexion]

Clean my hard-drive ?

I'd have to take it to a
fucking car wash.

Even then, it'd still be
trashy.

Dirty,
Lex

[WarlordZeroOne]

Its all a bag of shit,we leave a footprint everywhere we go.

[Bitchkoma]

well yeah, the simplest way would be to just stop using those sites and clean your hard drive of all cookies/spyware/adware


Not enough. Burn a copy of this CD and reboot your computer with it.
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[pack3tg0st]

DBAN is nice if you're not crunched for time...

Powdered Aluminum + Iron Oxide (rust) = Thermite.

hard drive forensically worthless in 5 seconds or less...

[Bitchkoma]

But then you wouldn't be able to reuse the hard drive. I don't like to waste.

[Oblivion]

we have all heard about it they do it already in the U.K. to dogs and cats,its on its way for us AmKonites and the rest of us,then at any given time that eye in the sky will have your number pumped in and it will say "Warlord is located at Martha's Brothal on Fuck street" well i don't like it, but as usual how can we stop it, WE CAN'T, you know that old argument about defeatism etc,and the authoroties will justify the methods for our own SECURITY and that covers every avenue, even Fuck street. :projectile:

if you paid attention when your cat got its microchip (as did both of my dogs) you would see several things

its the size of a grain of rice
it does NOT have its own power supply and is therefore inactive until VERY close proximity of the scanner.

after almost 10 yrs with the chips i asked my vet to scan my dogs to check the chip still works.
he gave them the chip originally and even HE had trouble finding it.
he even told me some chips slip between the skin and muscle and he once found a chip had moved down to the dogs leg.

it wont even work in an airport scanner type situation. so you'd have to be on some pretty good drugs to think they could track it from space.

care to share the drugs around so we can all be that paranoid? :lol:

[WarlordZeroOne]

sure Oblivion, if you can recieve a signal from a satellite from space to an individual home for TV in my case BSKYB with a really small dish and LNB.ITS only a matter of time,when the technology will be there to put a chip in us all, and use the excuse for your own security,one more point you say your dogs was chipped ten years ago,well 10 years ago we did not have this wonderfull internet and look at it today,all things are possible,all it takes is Government will, and Bingo its done,the time it takes doe's not matter as long as the objective is reached.and it will happen.all the same i like your HOMEWORK, and i did pay attention when my moggys where done,its a Bad idea here on AmKon 2nd guessing what people are thinking, YOU often get it wrong doing that,and when i say YOU i am generelising.

[Cogburn]

sure Oblivion, if you can recieve a signal from a satellite from space to an individual home for TV in my case BSKYB with a really small dish and LNB.ITS only a matter of time,when the technology will be there to put a chip in us all, and use the excuse for your own security,one more point you say your dogs was chipped ten years ago,well 10 years ago we did not have this wonderfull internet and look at it today,all things are possible,all it takes is Government will, and Bingo its done,the time it takes doe's not matter as long as the objective is reached.and it will happen.all the same i like your HOMEWORK, and i did pay attention when my moggys where done,its a Bad idea here on AmKon 2nd guessing what people are thinking, YOU often get it wrong doing that,and when i say YOU i am generelising.
Read how that BSKYB dish of yours works.

Read how RFID works.

Physics is physics.

Worry more about the anti-shoplifting scanners and street-level advertisements on your high street than satellites in space.

You're paranoid about the wrong things.

[skunk]

RFID chips cause cancer. That's something to worry about.

[pack3tg0st]

What doesn't cause cancer these days?

[skunk]

:pound: doesn't.

[pack3tg0st]

I'm sure it will after they do some studies...

fuckin' everything causes cancer...

believe it or not... cancer is pretty difficult to get... it takes a series of very specific genetic mutations...

I dunno... I think they're looking at cancer the wrong way... but, thats another thread.

[WarlordZeroOne]

Cog, the dish was an example of Technology,being able to pinpoint your home with a satellite TV signal with the dish,and what i said sooner or later the TECH will be there to chip all Humans, 24/7 they will be able to monitor your whereabouts,i'll not be around, but there is already a trial in progress in the U.K.with cars,and the chip is on the number plate.

[Cogburn]

Yeah... you obviously do not understand how your Dish receiver, or satellite technology in general, works.

You're dangerously close to getting the Picard.

[WarlordZeroOne]

well thats the end of that story,for me.lol

[pack3tg0st]

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb227/playtonjr/satelite_dish.gif

[Oblivion]

sure Oblivion, if you can recieve a signal from a satellite from space to an individual home for TV in my case BSKYB with a really small dish and LNB.ITS only a matter of time,when the technology will be there to put a chip in us all, and use the excuse for your own security,one more point you say your dogs was chipped ten years ago,well 10 years ago we did not have this wonderfull internet and look at it today,all things are possible,all it takes is Government will, and Bingo its done,the time it takes doe's not matter as long as the objective is reached.and it will happen.all the same i like your HOMEWORK, and i did pay attention when my moggys where done,its a Bad idea here on AmKon 2nd guessing what people are thinking, YOU often get it wrong doing that,and when i say YOU i am generelising.


Cog, the dish was an example of Technology,being able to pinpoint your home with a satellite TV signal with the dish,and what i said sooner or later the TECH will be there to chip all Humans, 24/7 they will be able to monitor your whereabouts,i'll not be around, but there is already a trial in progress in the U.K.with cars,and the chip is on the number plate.


the tracker in your car is powered by a 12v battery.

ever seen someone who has a pacemaker fitted?
they have a lump the size of a ciggy packet bulging under their skin, and that battery has a very short lifespan.

you clearly have no idea how the RFID chips work, and are unfortunately driven by pure paranoia.

a chip the size of the grain of rice, having a life long power supply inbuilt.?
as i said, the scanner has to be against the skin or damn close to it to even detect the thing, and even then they need to scan around the area searching for it. :lol:

proof that people fear the unknown, like space.

[Ima Nasshole]

What doesn't cause cancer these days?
Anal sex.

[Cogburn]

What doesn't cause cancer these days?
Anal sex.
Nope.

Guess what killed Farrah Fawcett....

[Ima Nasshole]

What doesn't cause cancer these days?
Anal sex.
Nope.

Guess what killed Farrah Fawcett....
Drugs?

[Cogburn]

Anal Cancer. (http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=7939402&page=1)

[Ima Nasshole]

Anal Cancer. (http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=7939402&page=1)
I knew that Ryan O'Neal was a no good dirty little ass fucker! Poor Farrah, what a way to go.

[Bitchkoma]

You're dangerously close to getting the Picard.

??

[Cogburn]

Smite for your new avatar.

Very subtle.

[lala]

RFID . . . :smokin:

(pronounced as separate letters) Short for radio frequency identification, a technology similar in theory to bar code identification. With RFID, the electromagnetic or electrostatic coupling in the RF portion of the electromagnetic spectrum is used to transmit signals. An RFID system consists of an antenna and a transceiver, which read the radio frequency and transfer the information to a processing device, and a transponder, or tag, which is an integrated circuit containing the RF circuitry and information to be transmitted.
RFID systems can be used just about anywhere, from clothing tags to missiles to pet tags to food -- anywhere that a unique identification system is needed. The tag can carry information as simple as a pet owners name and address or the cleaning instruction on a sweater to as complex as instructions on how to assemble a car. Some auto manufacturers use RFID systems to move cars through an assembly line. At each successive stage of production, the RFID tag tells the computers what the next step of automated assembly is.

One of the key differences between RFID and bar code technology is RFID eliminates the need for line-of-sight reading that bar coding depends on. Also, RFID scanning can be done at greater distances than bar code scanning. High frequency RFID systems (850 MHz to 950 MHz and 2.4 GHz to 2.5 GHz) offer transmission ranges of more than 90 feet, although wavelengths in the 2.4 GHz range are absorbed by water (the human body) and therefore has limitations.

RFID is also called dedicated short range communication (DSRC).

[Cogburn]

90 foot transponder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transponder).

That means that the chip has to be able to receive the signal with requisite wattage to activate the transponder so it can broadcast it's information.

What's the wavelength/wattage required for a radio emission from space to penetrate the human body without deleterious effects?
What is the size of the receiver required for such a signal?

There's a reason that satellite TV dishes have a minimum diameter of 1.5 feet.

RFID is a lie.

Your cellphone and social networking does the dirty work.

There's no need to control every person, only enough people.

[GhostOfCaptSpaulding]

Yeah, WZO, no need to worry about the chips they implant.

It's the chips we'll be carrying (http://news.cnet.com/2010-1069-980325.html) you should be more concerned about.

Keep in mind the linked article above is six years old...

Nah, I'm just fucking with you; even Walmart's having to retrench on their big plans for RFID. (http://www.informationweek.com/news/mobility/RFID/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=198700170)

And that link's only two years old..

[Cogburn]

The Kenton County (Kentucky) Public Library was using RFID tags stuck to the inside covers of books to expedite check-in and check-out (and to prevent theft) ten years ago.

We've lived in an RFID world for over a decade. Do you feel like a tracked and controlled commodity?

Why get all uppity about it now?

[skunk]

Its one thing to have non-living objects tracked. That makes some sense. But humans and animals? Fuck that. I won't even subject my pets to that shit.

We're not chattel to be bookmarked and tracked (kind of like the census, eh?).

[pack3tg0st]

edit: wrong thread...

wtf happeneD?

[GhostOfCaptSpaulding]

edit: wrong thread...

wtf happeneD?

Oh good, for a second there I thought they'd chipped MJ's dead freak ass in case he came back all thriller style...