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WarlordZeroOne
06-25-2009, 05:18 AM
U.S. satellites not to spy on Americans
Posted on Jun 23, 2009
If you were one of those people worrying about the Bush administration’s controversial plan to use U.S. spy satellites to monitor the general population – you can put those fears to rest. According to a recent LA Times article, Homeland Security has nixed the plan to spy on Americans and residents in this way, the purpose of which was to gather domestic intelligence for counter-terrorism, law enforcement and security.

The National Applications Office (NAO) program was established in 2007 but was delayed because advocates of privacy and civil liberties voiced significant concerns about the sort of spying proposed. Some congressmen worried that the intrusion into the lives of Americans would be too great.



Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano made the call to cut the program not because of these concerns, however. Napolitano found out from discussions with state and local authorities, that they had greater priorities than using satellites to spy on people in their jurisdictions. As the whole purpose of the program was to provide these folks with real-time electronic intelligence, it seemed silly to move forward with a plan that [a] was controversial in the first place and [b] didn’t really have a following amongst those it was intended to help.

To her credit, Napolitano has long advocated improved communication between federal, state and local authorities, and her consultation with state and local authorities in this case is a good example of why it’s a rather important step.

Los Angeles Police Chief William J. Bratton wrote to Napolitano, saying “In our view, the NAO is not an issue of urgency. . . . Our goal is effective sharing of law enforcement information that protects the privacy and civil liberties of Americans. . . .”

Other police chiefs were in agreement.

Although Michael P. Downing, the LAPD’s deputy chief for counter-terrorism and criminal intelligence, did leave room for a revival of the program: “What we’re saying is that we have all these other issues that we need to get fixed. It’s not dead, but de-prioritized, and we support that.”

But Homeland Security says it’s dead. They’re shifting their focus to the other priorities outlined by state and local law enforcement officials. Satellites will continue to be used for domestic surveillance aimed at helping rescue and relief efforts in natural disasters and security planning for national special security events, like big political conferences and the Superbowl.

Recently, as if a catalyst to Napolitano’s decision, Rep. Jane Harman (D-California) presented legislation which would stop Homeland Security from using space-based satellite images for domestic surveillance. For Harman, who is the chairwoman of the House Homeland Security Committee’s intelligence and terrorism risk assessment subcommittee, the privacy issues are clear.

image courtesy of russmo.com

Alessandra
06-25-2009, 11:31 AM
HA! My ass.

skunk
06-25-2009, 01:30 PM
Do you have a link to the story warlord?


If you were one of those people worrying about the Bush administration’s controversial plan to use U.S. spy satellites to monitor the general population – you can put those fears to rest. According to a recent LA Times article, Homeland Security has nixed the plan to spy on Americans and residents in this way, the purpose of which was to gather domestic intelligence for counter-terrorism, law enforcement and security.

Yeah, likely.

Lexion
06-25-2009, 03:39 PM
Linky (http://dangordonspyclub.com/2009/06/23/us-satellites-not-to-spy-on-americans/)

Enjoy,
Lex

skunk
06-25-2009, 03:54 PM
Nice

http://dangordonspyclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/spyingonamericanscartoons.gif

GhostOfCaptSpaulding
06-25-2009, 03:55 PM
Reading between the lines, it just means funding for these programs is now either going underground or into private hands... http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee162/21b45o13x25c54o34d45e/icons%20pngs/shh.png

skunk
06-25-2009, 03:58 PM
The telecoms are helping out. Don't you remember congress granted them immunity from prosecution. What a great group of folks, always caring about their country and their constitution.

GhostOfCaptSpaulding
06-25-2009, 04:01 PM
Exhibit A:

[offsite:18in3ijp]Lancaster, Pa., keeps a close eye on itself

A vast and growing web of security cameras monitors the city of 55,000, operated by a private group of self-appointed gatekeepers. There's been surprisingly little outcry.

Reporting from Lancaster, Pa. -- This historic town, where America's founding fathers plotted during the Revolution and Milton Hershey later crafted his first chocolates, now boasts another distinction.

It may become the nation's most closely watched small city.

Some 165 closed-circuit TV cameras soon will provide live, round-the-clock scrutiny of nearly every street, park and other public space used by the 55,000 residents and the town's many tourists. That's more outdoor cameras than are used by many major cities, including San Francisco and Boston.

Unlike anywhere else, cash-strapped Lancaster outsourced its surveillance to a private nonprofit group that hires civilians to tilt, pan and zoom the cameras -- and to call police if they spot suspicious activity. No government agency is directly involved.

Perhaps most surprising, the near-saturation surveillance of a community that saw four murders last year has sparked little public debate about whether the benefits for law enforcement outweigh the loss of privacy.

"Years ago, there's no way we could do this," said Keith Sadler, Lancaster's police chief. "It brings to mind Big Brother, George Orwell and '1984.' It's just funny how Americans have softened on these issues."

"No one talks about it," agreed Scott Martin, a Lancaster County commissioner who wants to expand the program. "Because people feel safer. Those who are law-abiding citizens, they don't have anything to worry about."

LA Times | Lancaster, Pa., keeps a close eye on itself (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-spycam-city21-2009jun21,0,3641451.story)[/offsite:18in3ijp]

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee162/21b45o13x25c54o34d45e/icons%20pngs/sad_1.png

skunk
06-25-2009, 04:03 PM
Sounds like the movie "Hot Fuzz" and their corrupt citizens watch group.

GhostOfCaptSpaulding
06-25-2009, 04:24 PM
But I doubt it'll end the same way... http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee162/21b45o13x25c54o34d45e/icons%20pngs/laught.png

Cogburn
06-25-2009, 11:16 PM
I wonder what's really fueling that.

55,000 people is just... a town. One, maybe two, high schools.

I wonder how rampant cheating spouses are in that community...

Bitchkoma
06-26-2009, 03:53 AM
Spy blimp (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20090625&articleId=14084)[offsite:2tdg0nu0]http://www.globalresearch.ca/coverStoryPictures/14084.jpg[/offsite:2tdg0nu0]

pack3tg0st
06-26-2009, 03:59 AM
Hrm... an experimental population to see how it works out?

Desensitize the masses to the idea?

full on implimentation?

I wonder how benevolent the motives of these "gatekeepers" really are...

WarlordZeroOne
06-26-2009, 04:22 AM
Here is the link. www.dangordonspyclub.com (http://www.dangordonspyclub.com) ,Report this postReply with quoteRe: Who Beleives This Crap?
by skunk on Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:30 pm

Do you have a link to the story warlord?
www.dangordonspyclub.com (http://www.dangordonspyclub.com) , under the heading U.S. satellites not to spy on americans.