Ron Paul: Obama's 'goal' is economic collapse

[apeci]

Duh.

rawstory.com (http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/06/23/ron-paul-obamas-goal-is-economic-collapse/)

[offsite:2v7xbjm1]Ron Paul, the popular Republican Congressman from Texas, is ripping into the president and Congress for what he sees as their “goal” with round after round of stimulus: complete economic collapse.

“From their spending habits, an economic collapse seems to be the goal of Congress and this administration,” he said in his June 22, 2009, weekly address.

He added that Democrats who voted for the president’s war funding request, which gave an additional $106 billion to military operations in Afghanistan and Iraq — among other, unrelated items — were actually voting in favor of the wars, not just authorization of the president’s agenda.

He called it an affront to everyone who believed a vote for Obama was a vote for a peace candidate.

The president’s insistence on including an additional $108 billion in asset exchange with the International Monetary Fund is merely “buying global oppression,” he said.

Paul added that, “this [bill sent] $660 million to Gaza, $555 million to Israel, $310 million to Egypt, $300 million to Jordan and $420 million to Mexico; and some $889 million will be sent to the United Nations for so-called peace keeping missions.”

In other words, the latest U.S. war funding was an “International bailout,” he said.

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For global governance and oppression to commence all of North America must first be made to look like Mexico.

[mur]

Obama is a puppet of the Federal Reserve...he does their bidding...whether he knows it or not.

[pack3tg0st]

CEO Barack Obama, United States of America Inc. LLC...

[boycotteverything]

That may be closer to the truth than we imagine. There's nothing left to the empire but detritus dancing the breeze. Time for a going outa business sale.

[Ima Nasshole]

It appears the only thing he's missing is the mark of the beast, and I don't think we've even started looking for it. On another note, I heard over the airwaves that Michelle has started using a telepromptor, all in the family.

[GhostOfCaptSpaulding]

Obama is a puppet of the Federal Reserve...he does their bidding...whether he knows it or not.

Oh, he knows...

[Snow Crash]

I like Ron Paul. I don't always agree with what he has to say, or the angle he approaches it from (he's a bit too Amero-centric imo, in what is obviously a global issue), but I am pleased to see him telling people about this stuff.

We mustn't forget, while we in what the mainstream likes to label as 'the lunatic fringe' have been paying attention, and have learnt to read between the lines, and to always see things in terms of overview, there are people out there who are only just starting to see these things, and they need information to help them along. I would like to think Dr Paul is helping to bring these newly awakened folks up to speed, so while to us what he says may well seem blatantly obvious, lets not look at that as a bad thing.

Anyways, here's a pic that speaks a thousand words...

[attachment=0:3mjemkep]RonPaulMarginalized.jpg[/attachment:3mjemkep]

[boycotteverything]

Telling picture, Snowman. But there's one great American missing---

http://www.arktimes.com/blogs/norma/Image/bush_finger_flip.jpg
Hello world!!

[Ima Nasshole]

I like Ron Paul. I don't always agree with what he has to say, or the angle he approaches it from (he's a bit too Amero-centric imo, in what is obviously a global issue), but I am pleased to see him telling people about this stuff.

We mustn't forget, while we in what the mainstream likes to label as 'the lunatic fringe' have been paying attention, and have learnt to read between the lines, and to always see things in terms of overview, there are people out there who are only just starting to see these things, and they need information to help them along. I would like to think Dr Paul is helping to bring these newly awakened folks up to speed, so while to us what he says may well seem blatantly obvious, lets not look at that as a bad thing.

Anyways, here's a pic that speaks a thousand words...

[attachment=0:b4r52g6y]RonPaulMarginalized.jpg[/attachment:b4r52g6y]

historically speaking RP has been a champion of the Constitution and the Bill of rights. It's hard to question what his angle is when it appears everything he does is in the spirit of those two documents. He seems to be the only man in either house willing to go directly at the Federal Reserve. Say what you want, out of the 545 that rule this country, he's the only one I'd keep.

[Cogburn]

Ron Paul is an ineffective politician who continues to garner the support of the RNC in order to serve his role as "pressure release valve".

If there were no Ron Paul someone would have to invent him.

Think about what all those RP supporters would have done in the last election if there wasn't Ron Paul.

If you get someone "sponsored" by the political machine that says and does all the right things but amounts to nothing in the larger perspective then there is little worry of a grass roots candidate arising that actually builds popular support.

The only thing politics is useful for is to figure out how next you'll get fucked.

... and bitches dig the "I voted" sticker.

[apeci]

Amounts to nothing? What rock have you been under? Oh, right... you listen to mainstream media. Most of the general public didn't even know the Federal Reserve existed before Ron Paul's campaign. Now his bill to reign in the cartel, HR 1207, has sponsorship from over half the House. Were freedom and liberty common topics of conversation during the Bush years? During the Clinton years? Not that I recall. They are now. Revolution is on the lips of millions. No sir, Ron Paul's campaign was a triumphant success and the consequential storm is brewing.

[century]

I wonder why Ron Paul wont tell the people that their vote doesn't matter anyway?

I have a hard time believing that he is under the impression that it does. Of course he claims he got the most money from vets,but why does it matter if the election is based on electoral votes?
Is it me or do most Americans just not understand that? Why would he even participate in the race? Some would say to heighten peoples awareness about corruption. Honestly I think enlightening the people about the FED. is all fine and dandy, but we don't know what Ron would put in its place and he hasn't even begun to share any of his ideas about what new monetary system would take its place.
He hasn't mentioned anything about the free energy technology that would bring us into an era of less GOV., and no energy bills.

He's a Freemason and if he took office he would have done the same thing that Barack is doing now, recant on everything that he claimed he was going to do
(which was nothing)

Barack was a better candidate to bash his country during the election blaming the corruption on Washington and shifting the light off the fact that both parties are socialist, they really enjoy the prospect of a nanny state because they were born rich to begin with and most of them are getting old anyway.

Socialist sheeple think that Capitalism is bad but I would challenge you to eliminate credit from your vocabulary and imagine a society without banking institutions. A free society where you are obligated to protect, feed, water, and entertain your family through means of your own creativity and elbow grease. It eliminates all the dependencies which are corroding our society and forces our people to take responsibility for themselves. Frankly Americans are to brainwashed and lazy-fat to handle taking responsibility for their own life.

Ron's a pawn like everybody else, the hole reason they have elections is to stifle descent and make the people think that they have a choice. How can they be aware of what you think about them if you cant vote.
Ron knew he wouldn't win and didn't care because he banked. They love the drama. People like Ron Paul are the key to the Illuminati acquiring knowledge of the tax payers opinions because they don't want Americans to doing what the Iranians are doing.

He might not even know they use him but I doubt it.

:arg:

[century]

None would be on the stage if they were honest

[century]

1207 is the key to moving to the chip or card for currency.

[GeneralStriker]

well- i have to say that i like ron paul. i'm determined to overlook the fact that he's basically stupid.

[Cogburn]

Amounts to nothing? What rock have you been under? Oh, right... you listen to mainstream media. Most of the general public didn't even know the Federal Reserve existed before Ron Paul's campaign. Now his bill to reign in the cartel, HR 1207, has sponsorship from over half the House. Were freedom and liberty common topics of conversation during the Bush years? During the Clinton years? Not that I recall. They are now. Revolution is on the lips of millions. No sir, Ron Paul's campaign was a triumphant success and the consequential storm is brewing.
Just because you weren't listening doesn't mean the dialog wasn't going on at the same volume it is now.

Remember the outrage over Waco and Ruby Ridge? Seen the BATF around lately?

Have we already forgotten Lincoln Park in '68?

MSM has little to do with if you are sheep. It has more to do with how closely you pay attention and for how long.

Ron Paul ranks 176th in the amount of power wielded in Congress.
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/power_rankings/power_card.tt?id=567

Ron Paul's leadership ability in congress has been trending into a decline for the past 10 years.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/person.xpd?id=400311

Check out how many bills sponsored or co-sponsored by Ron Paul have been enacted into law in the past 5 years.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billsearch.xpd?PostFormID=billsearch&session=110&q=&sponsor=400311&cosponsor=&chamber=&status=enacted

Ron Paul is fail.

We're going to have to get your stomach pumped before any more of that koolaid gets to your brain.

Sometimes being a free thinker requires more than a pedestrian effort.

[skunk]

Here's his actual statement from house.gov. (http://www.house.gov/htbin/blog_inc?BLOG,tx14_paul,blog,999,All,Item%20not%20 found,ID=090622_2993,TEMPLATE=postingdetail.shtml) Note that Obama isn't mentioned once.



[offsite:77qztwww]International Bailout Brings Us Closer to Economic Collapse

Last week Congress passed the war supplemental appropriations bill. In an affront to all those who thought they voted for a peace candidate, the current president will be sending another $106 billion we don’t have to continue the bloodshed in Afghanistan and Iraq, without a hint of a plan to bring our troops home.

Many of my colleagues who voted with me as I opposed every war supplemental request under the previous administration seem to have changed their tune. I maintain that a vote to fund the war is a vote in favor of the war. Congress exercises its constitutional prerogatives through the power of the purse, and as long as Congress continues to enable these dangerous interventions abroad, there is no end in sight, that is until we face total economic collapse.

From their spending habits, an economic collapse seems to be the goal of Congress and this administration. Washington spends with impunity domestically, bailing out and nationalizing everything they can get their hands on, and the foreign aid and IMF funding in this bill can rightly be called an international bailout!

As Americans struggle through the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression, this emergency supplemental appropriations bill sends $660 million to Gaza, $555 million to Israel, $310 million to Egypt, $300 million to Jordan, and $420 million to Mexico. Some $889 million will be sent to the United Nations for so-called “peacekeeping” missions. Almost one billion dollars will be sent overseas to address the global financial crisis outside our borders. Nearly $8 billion will be spent to address a “potential pandemic flu” which could result in mandatory vaccinations for no discernable reason other than to enrich the Pharmaceutical companies that make the vaccine.

Perhaps most outrageous is the $108 billion loan guarantee to the International Monetary Fund. These new loan guarantees will allow that destructive organization to continue spending taxpayer money to prop up corrupt leaders and promote harmful economic policies overseas.

Not only does sending American taxpayer money to the IMF hurt citizens here, evidence shows that it even hurts those it pretends to help. Along with IMF loans comes IMF required policy changes, called Structural Adjustment Programs, which amount to forced Keynesianism. This is the very fantasy-infused economic model that has brought our own country to its knees, and IMF loans act as the Trojan Horse to inflict it on others. Perhaps most troubling is the fact that leaders in recipient nations tend to become more concerned with the wishes of international elites than the wishes and needs of their own people. Argentina and Kenya are just two examples of countries that followed IMF mandates right off a cliff. The IMF frequently recommends currency devaluation to poorer nations, which has wiped out the already impoverished over and over. There is also a long list of brutal dictators the IMF happily supported and propped up with loans that left their oppressed populace in staggering amounts of debt with no economic progress to show for it.

We are buying nothing but evil and global oppression by sending your taxdollars to the IMF. Not to mention there is no Constitutional authority to do so. Our continued presence in Iraq and Afghanistan does not make us safer at home, but in fact undermines our national security. I vehemently opposed this Supplemental Appropriations Bill and was dismayed to see it pass so easily.[/offsite:77qztwww]

[Ima Nasshole]

Amounts to nothing? What rock have you been under? Oh, right... you listen to mainstream media. Most of the general public didn't even know the Federal Reserve existed before Ron Paul's campaign. Now his bill to reign in the cartel, HR 1207, has sponsorship from over half the House. Were freedom and liberty common topics of conversation during the Bush years? During the Clinton years? Not that I recall. They are now. Revolution is on the lips of millions. No sir, Ron Paul's campaign was a triumphant success and the consequential storm is brewing.
Just because you weren't listening doesn't mean the dialog wasn't going on at the same volume it is now.

Remember the outrage over Waco and Ruby Ridge? Seen the BATF around lately?

Have we already forgotten Lincoln Park in '68?

MSM has little to do with if you are sheep. It has more to do with how closely you pay attention and for how long.

Ron Paul ranks 176th in the amount of power wielded in Congress.
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/power_rankings/power_card.tt?id=567

Ron Paul's leadership ability in congress has been trending into a decline for the past 10 years.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/person.xpd?id=400311

Check out how many bills sponsored or co-sponsored by Ron Paul have been enacted into law in the past 5 years.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billsearch.xpd?PostFormID=billsearch&session=110&q=&sponsor=400311&cosponsor=&chamber=&status=enacted

Ron Paul is fail.

We're going to have to get your stomach pumped before any more of that koolaid gets to your brain.

Sometimes being a free thinker requires more than a pedestrian effort.
Yours is a case for complete overhaul, if any, whom would you keep?

[Cogburn]

Yours is a case for complete overhaul, if any, whom would you keep?
None of the above.

Anyone that caucuses with either of the two major parties should be summarily disqualified.

Why doesn't Ron Paul abandon the Republican party? It certainly can't hurt his legislative record to leave it...

[skunk]

From my understanding, he is still with the GOP because he wouldn't stand a chance in hell being elected as a libertarian candidate.

[Cogburn]

From my understanding, he is still with the GOP because he wouldn't stand a chance in hell being elected as a libertarian candidate.
Ahh... so intellectually dishonest from the get-go...

Nice.

[skunk]

I have a hard time agreeing with his economic policies (aside from abolishing the federal reserve and cutting taxes). He doesn't seem to have the "empathy chip" in a single bone of his body, which is fine, but you won't see me voting for him anytime soon.

If Kucinich was the presidential candidate and Ron Paul was the VP...Maybe.

[apeci]

Cog, you've missed the point again. Ron Paul's campaign was not about an election.

[GeneralStriker]

well you could have fooled all those campaign workers

[apeci]

If you actually paid attention to him during the debates Ron Paul's campaign was a lot like Harry Browne's run in 96 and 2000 (also never expected to win). He would quickly answer a question and use the rest of his time to talk about freedom. Paul wouldn't have lasted too long without a few people to do the paperwork, eh? :)

[pack3tg0st]

I'll never vote Dem or Republican again...

Unless Colin Powell runs...

Then I'll vote for him no matter the party...

Dems are Republicans suck... even if it is Ron Paul...

Good ideas, but piss poor ideas on implimentation...

[GeneralStriker]

If you actually paid attention to him during the debates Ron Paul's campaign was a lot like Harry Browne's run in 96 and 2000 (also never expected to win). He would quickly answer a question and use the rest of his time to talk about freedom. Paul wouldn't have lasted too long without a few people to do the paperwork, eh? :)

Now I agree to the extent that all but the most quixotic Paulists never expected him to win in '08. This was about an incipient third party candidacy in '12. The Ron Paul Meet-Ups are still alive and active and straightening the path for the next election.

[GeneralStriker]

Unless Colin Powell runs... I like Colin Powell a lot. He's a genuinely kind man. But I can't help but think he may have permanently fucked himself with that ridiculous UN speech.

[pack3tg0st]

I think he was forced to do that...

note he resigned after the first term...

[apeci]

Now I agree to the extent that all but the most quixotic Paulists never expected him to win in '08. This was about an incipient third party candidacy in '12. The Ron Paul Meet-Ups are still alive and active and straightening the path for the next election.
I'm organized with local 'Paulists' (though not C4L... ew) and I believe the general consensus between other camps is agreement with Ron Paul's statement of disinterest. He's getting pretty old. People are looking to Rand, Judge Napolitano, and still my favorite, Ventura.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/lcp/quefuede/myfiles/Jesse%20Ventura01.jpg

[GeneralStriker]

I think he was forced to do that... Unfortunately the words are forever in the record. No-one 'forces' Colin Powell to do anything. He was being a good soldier and serving the Dumbya in Chief. That was a bad lapse of judgment in my opinion. He knew in his heart that the speech was a confabulation of Chenyist/ Likudnik lies but he gave it anyway.

[GeneralStriker]

Now I agree to the extent that all but the most quixotic Paulists never expected him to win in '08. This was about an incipient third party candidacy in '12. The Ron Paul Meet-Ups are still alive and active and straightening the path for the next election.
I'm organized with local 'Paulists' (though not C4L... ew) and I believe the general consensus between other camps is agreement with Ron Paul's statement of disinterest. He's getting pretty old. People are looking to Rand, Judge Napolitano, and still my favorite, Ventura.

Rand impresses me as an opportunistic fop- but Jesse, I like. The Paulist movement is alive and well in Colorado too. Unfortunately it has attracted a rogue's gallery of religious nutjobs and homophobes who had the good sense to ban me from the discussion! hahahah Go figure...

[GeneralStriker]

FYI- this was the post that got me banned:


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[Cogburn]

Cog, you've missed the point again. Ron Paul's campaign was not about an election.
Yeah... that's the excuse of a loser.

If he would have won the nomination it would have been all about getting elected, I'm sure.

The only thing worse than Obamabots are Paulists.

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