The Nazis - A Warning From History

[Cogburn]

This was never aired in the United States.

Watch it and you'll understand why.

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[Lexion]

Thanks Cog.

I made the Obama / Nazi connection
on another thread, a few months ago.

Scary shit, indeed.

The U.S. is following a parallel path.

Maybe I can get a Ministry position.

Regards,
Lex

[Cogburn]

It's the history of the Nazi party through the eyes of Germans that were swept up in it at the time.

"Why did I do these things?"
"How did it get to this?"
"I was not that kind person before or since."

Lessons that should not be forgotten.

[lala]

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Lest we forget

[Ima Nasshole]

Thanks Cog.

Maybe I can get a Ministry position.

Regards,
Lex

Perfect job Lex... Porn Czar!

Chick a bow bowwwww!

[Snow Crash]

Lessons that should not be forgotten.

Agreed. Now let's hope we can get all the fucking idiots in the UK supporting the BNP for 'protest votes' to pay attention...

[Cogburn]

The BNP is like Sarah Palin.

It encourages all the nutters to come out of the woodworks so we can identify them by name.

[mojo]

even scarier imo is that the united states helped so many nazi's escape punishment and furnished them with comfortable new lives at the end of ww2.
many of thses people have held positions of influence throughout american politics since and in fact some have had positions within the US intelligence services.
read up on reinhard gehlen and allen dulles.


btw, smiteworthy thread.

[Cogburn]

I just finished the last of the series and I am .... contemplative.

I don't see this happening here. It could almost happen here, and if you're of Arab descent or even look like you were of Arab descent you could say it almost did happen here.

... but it didn't.

For every single ignorant, racist ideologue that gets MSM coverage in this country there are 50,000 that disagree. The New Silent Majority.

They don't post on forums. They don't believe in conspiracy theory. They own a rifle or a pistol or two because their dad told them it was a good idea. They vote. They pay taxes. They are black, white, asian, hispanic, blue, and purple. They are not stupid. They are not rabid. They are normal, happy, content people.

They also will not be fucked with anymore. They will not live in fear. They will not tolerate outdated ideology.

Are there still schools that are fighting over intelligent design? Sure, but do you think any school that is compelled to teach intelligent design will do so in any sort of light that will make it any less the ridiculous nonsense that it is?

A friend of a friend of friend hung Barack Obama in effigy on his front lawn back in Cincinnati. It made the national news. You may say whatever you want about the last election, but we all saw those people at McCain/Palin rallies, either on the Internet or in person.

That's what McCain lost. Period.

We might be showing the signs of empire, but you have to have a lot slicker shit than Hitler to make it happen here. There are far too many wackos that will give away the plot long before it happens.

Unless someone manages to knock down the Sears Tower or the Space Needle, that is.

[WarlordZeroOne]

What has been learned since World war 2, F/A and the world is coming closer to a catastrophic disaster today than ever before in so many different ways,and its slowly unfolding,what a BLOODY mess we are in, its not FUNNY, and we cannot reverse the situation.

[KIWI]

well done Cog.....post number 666

[KIWI]

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[WarlordZeroOne]

Strange that,WE seem to learn naff all from History.

[mojo]

Strange that,WE seem to learn naff all from History.

Thats because, for the most part, history needs to be re-written. What we are taught in school is not history, it's pulp fiction for the masses.

[skunk]

Unless someone manages to knock down the Sears Tower or the Space Needle, that is.

They don't need a 2nd one. They already had the 9/11 attacks and can justify a "defense budget of world conquest proportions" (I.T.), not to mention revoke all of our civil liberties as we are at war. The wonderful thing about the war on terror is that its never ending, therefore, we never have to have our rights given back to us.

They're a "privilege" from the upper class. How wonderful of them, isn't it?

[guy]

Any way to fix the OP Cogburn?

[Lexion]

Any way to fix the OP Cogburn?

Pack should be able to.

[guy]

that would be great

[Lexion]

Shoot him a PM, with the
link to the thread.

[pack3tg0st]

OP fixt...

but youtube removed the videos apparently lol

[guy]

That sucks

[Lexion]

Jesus.

In an odd way, nice find, Guy.

[guy]

Any way to know the title of the vids?

[Cogburn]

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[Lexion]

The Nazis : A warning from ........

N/M, Cog got them while I was
typing.

[guy]

thanks

[mur]

I'll watch later, but it can happen here. And just because it may not involve death camps or genocide doesn't mean it won't be evil

[Silly Sausage]

Actually I think there are more parallels between the fall of the Soviet Union and modern America than there are with the Nazi's.

I think CB is right, it could happen there but despite the onslaught of propaganda people are too clued up.

[KIWI]

he learnt the hard way...

[Raptor Jesus]

Awesome KIWI hahaha

[KIWI]

lol, yeah, cracks me up too....got a few Adolphs :)

[Gunter]

Peter Hitchens nails it. This essay appears in The American Conservative February 1st, 2010 issue. Posted here in full. Can it happen in England? Can it happen in America? Sure. Why not?


But if no such new grouping emerges, and if our shaky economy takes another nasty turn, Nick Griffin’s rough beast may have a future of some kind—and not a pleasant one

February 01, 2010 Issue (http://www.amconmag.com/issue/2010/feb/01/) http://www.amconmag.com/MiniCover/AmConservative-2010feb01
Copyright © 2010 The American Conservative

Far Wrong
Don’t be fooled by the BNP.
By Peter Hitchens (http://www.amconmag.com/searchr.php?m=3&start=0&end=25&v&author=Peter+Hitchens)

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The lives of genuine conservatives in Britain have been made much harder by the recent growth of the British National Party, a sordid and disreputable group with its origins in racial obsessions and Holocaust denial. Its success, achieved by faked reasonableness and slick PR, has seemed to confirm the liberal Left’s view that the Right is just one step away from Hitlerism, steeped in prejudice and loutish stupidity. This is a grave burden to proper, patriotic conservatives, and I am ceaselessly amazed at how many people are taken in. Perhaps a few words of explanation and background are in order for any on the far side of the Atlantic who might have been beguiled. Imagine a political party where the ex-leader launches an investigation into his successor because he thinks he may be Jewish. There is, in fact, no need to imagine. The British National Party’s podgy chieftain, Nick Griffin, actually had his ancestry probed for alleged Jewishness by the organization’s former Fuehrer, the late John Tyndall.
Tyndall was the sort of neo-Nazi who used to celebrate Adolf Hitler’s birthday, dress up in Stormtrooper outfits for group photographs and, for all I know, picnics in the woods. This sort of thing is rather bad for public relations in a country where significant numbers of people still think of Hitler as the man who bombed their street or whose parents and grandparents spent several uncomfortable years fighting on land and sea and in the air.
So when the BNP sought a new and more appealing image a few years ago, Tyndall had to go. He did not appreciate this treatment. Then one day, sulky Mr. Tyndall saw Mr. Griffin’s father on TV and decided that the old gentleman’s nose was (in his view) suspiciously prominent and curved. In the spirit of his movement and his dogma, he began making checks to see if Griffin’s grandmother was “in order,” as they used to say in the Third Reich. I know this because Griffin told me about it himself, during a long, faintly unhinged conversation in a public house in an English country town. (I drank beer. He didn’t.) I have not spoken to him since, and Tyndall is now dead, so I have never been able to find out how the story ended, though I very much hope that Nick Griffin does in fact have Jewish forebears, as I do myself. It would add to the dark comedy of his political career and perhaps cause him to reflect on some of his beliefs.
None of this ought to matter. Since the 1930s, Britain has had some sort of Judeophobic, jackboot-loving political formation or other. In general, these organizations have been composed of fantasists and obsessives, plus a sprinkling of violent brutes looking for a brawl, appealing particularly to those who think the Jews are to blame for everything. They have until now made no important electoral impact.
The first was the overrated British Union of Fascists, led by the disappointed socialist Sir Oswald Mosley, which never became a serious force even in those hungry and ill-tempered years. Only the British Left, which fondly likes to think that it stopped Sir Oswald in his tracks, maintains the myth that he was a genuine threat—a myth that is often perpetuated on British TV and in school histories of the period, heavily influenced by leftist ideas.
But the BUF, which predated knowledge of the National Socialist death camps, was significant compared with the various leagues, fronts, and movements that persisted on the edge of British politics throughout the contented and consensual period that lasted from 1945 until quite recently. The Nazi association restricted them to the twilit badlands of minority politics. They grew slightly as Britain experienced major migration from the West Indies and from India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh. Factions based upon racial bigotry are uniquely well-placed to exploit the problems that such influxes create, since they do not fear the possible cruel consequences of inflammatory talk and because race is the foundation of all their thought—and the limit of it, too. But the mainstream parties responded to this flurry by introducing some restrictions on migrants and so temporarily halted and reversed the expansion of specifically anti-immigration groups.
What they did not do, because it was too difficult and because they preferred not to think about it, was to confront the real problem of mass migration—the great “Who, Whom?” question that any country must answer if it wishes to open its borders to large numbers of people from other cultures. Should the migrants adapt to their new home? Or should the host country adapt to the newcomers? By leaving this unanswered, Britain passively chose the second path, but in a messy, ill-organized and clumsy way that has created seriously divided communities in many cities.
After a while, this cowardice got mixed up with the multiculturalist movement. Originating mainly among 1960s radicals, it sought to cancel traditional British patriotism because it hated such feelings. Now it had a standing excuse for doing so. The teaching of traditional British history was deemed “racist” and “offensive” and so stopped. Christianity had to be taught as one among many religions, even in nominally Christian schools. Opposition to such measures was invariably dismissed as a form of racial prejudice, which it sometimes was but often wasn’t, frightening many decent people into silence and in too many cases leaving the argument to actual racial bigots.
Of course this is, like so many other problems of the major Western nations, the result of the failure of the major conservative parties. Britain’s Conservatives largely avoided the subject of race and culture for two reasons. One, they had no intellectual confidence in their own ideas and were afraid of articulating them. Two, their party contained many economic liberals who favored “free movement of peoples” and saw multiculturalism as an acceptable price for the alleged benefits of mass migration. Such benefits are, of course, felt mainly by the well-off, the sort of people who eat in restaurants rather than work in them. But such people also tend to form the political and media classes everywhere and certainly in London. Recently one such person, a former Labour Party apparatchik called Andrew Neather, startlingly blurted out the truth about the views of this milieu. Neather wrote a newspaper article praising immigration as an unmixed good, mainly because it provided lots of cheap nannies and gardeners for funky Londoners like him.
Apparently thinking nobody would notice, he then revealed that among his party colleagues there had been “a driving political purpose: that mass immigration was the way that the UK Government was going to make the UK truly multicultural.” He recalled coming away from high-level discussions “with a clear sense that the policy was intended—even if this wasn’t its main purpose—to rub the Right’s nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date.” This happened around the last time the British Conservative Party dared to raise the issue of mass immigration in the months before the 2001 general election. The tactic worked. The Tories not only abandoned the subject, they have since been too frightened to mention it.
This retreat has allowed Nick Griffin and the British National Party to become not important but significant. In the absence of a principled conservative party, they have quite successfully pretended to be such a thing, gradually adopting large numbers of policies—including opposition to the Iraq War—that a genuinely conservative party would have espoused. They have also posed as the foes of Islam, a religion that is increasingly present in British cities. Griffin says Islam is “a wicked and vicious faith,” but in 1988 he traveled to Libya, allegedly at the expense of Muammar Gadaffi’s government, in search of funds for another neo-Nazi organization to which he then belonged. Though he says he now accepts that Jews were murdered under the National Socialist Third Reich—apparently he reached this conclusion thanks to reading British intercepts of German radio traffic—Griffin remains coy in his attitude toward the Holocaust. He claimed unconvincingly during a recent TV appearance that he might be prosecuted if he explained his views. What is recorded is that he did at one point say, “I am well aware that the orthodox opinion is that six million Jews were gassed and cremated and turned into lampshades. Orthodox opinion also once held that the world is flat.” It is necessary to remember here that Griffin—despite his loping, limited associates, his phalanx of huge shaven-headed bodyguards, and his doubts and difficulties about Jews—is an educated man, with a law degree from Cambridge University. Yet he cannot get these strange obsessions under control or convincingly state that he has finished with them, even when by doing so he might enjoy mainstream political success.
Similarly, the BNP constitution gives away the party’s true driving purpose and leaves no doubt about its real nature. It restricts membership to those of British or “closely kindred European descent.” Paradoxically, Britain’s embryonic Thought Police, a body called the Equality and Human Rights Commission, is now pressing the BNP to open its membership to all, which will actually make it far harder for its critics to show conclusively that it is based upon racial bigotry. But there is more.
Griffin was famously recorded—the event is viewable on YouTube—explaining his strategy to an American audience, while sharing a platform with the former Klansman David Duke. He explained in detail that the BNP’s new smooth appearance was a tactic, not a genuine change. As he said, “There’s a difference between selling out your ideas and selling your ideas. And the BNP isn’t about selling out its ideas, which are your ideas, too, but we are determined now to sell them. That means basically to use the saleable words. As I say, freedom, security, identity, democracy. Nobody can criticize them. Nobody can come at you and attack you on those ideas. They are saleable.
“Perhaps one day, once—by being rather more subtle—we’ve got ourselves in a position where we control the British broadcasting media, the British people might change their mind and say, ‘Yes, every last one must go.’
“But if you offer that as your sole aim to start with, you’re gonna get absolutely nowhere. So, instead of talking about racial purity, we talk about identity.”
This public-relations strategy has been quite successful. The BNP has managed to do fairly well in winning seats on town councils in many parts of Britain, especially where immigrant populations are high. These councillors have seldom been very effective once elected, but their election shows that there is now a significant number of disaffected voters prepared to defy or ignore taunts of “Nazi,” so discontented are they about their neglect by the major parties. In elections for the European Parliament, conducted on a low poll and on a proportional representation system that, unlike normal British Parliamentary elections, favors minority parties, the BNP has just won two seats, its first serious electoral success.
As a result of this, Griffin was recently invited to appear on the BBC’s principal national political debate program, “Question Time.” In the eyes of most viewers, he made a fool of himself almost every time he opened his mouth. But in the eyes of others, he was treated unfairly and denied the chance to make his case. His career is not over yet.
For actual conservatives opposed on principle to multiculturalism and mass immigration and desiring radical cultural and moral change, Griffin’s party is a major nuisance and quite possibly a disaster. It is exactly what the liberal Left wants and believes a conservative movement to be, and exactly what it ought not to be—bigoted, ugly, disreputable, and tainted by past sympathy for Nazis and Fascists. And, alas, its crude, opportunistic simplicities appeal to the resentful victims of the liberal consensus.
It is easy to make two mistakes about such movements. One is to overrate them and to broadcast panicky Brechtian warnings about the rise of a new Nazism. The other is to underrate them and assume that they will get nowhere. In the current state of British politics, when the official Conservative Party is now almost wholly in the hands of multiculturalists, moral relativists, globalists, and political correctness, there may soon be room for a new formation that rejects these ideas on respectable, civilized grounds. But if no such new grouping emerges, and if our shaky economy takes another nasty turn, Nick Griffin’s rough beast may have a future of some kind—and not a pleasant one

[anarch]

The VIds in the OP are dead. Removed for violations of terms of use.

What was the title? "A warning from history"

Off I go to look...

Yup Thats is the title.. Just wondering if cog took any literary liberty or not.

OK off I go to watch for a second.

[Cogburn]

These from Google are still active.


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[boycotteverything]

Leni Riefenstahl... nice ass, bad brain.

[anarch]

Just got done watching episode four.... Historical.

I watched it and the soft take over of Austria and I thought of Kuwait.... I watched the czech take over and I thought of Iraq... only Iraq offers a bit more resistance... And what is the difference between to two types of colonialism? Hitler was a fucking idiot for desiring colonies in his back yard. Classic English colonialism has always established its colonies abroad but England has always had the most trouble from its local neighbors of Scotland and Ireland.

Its not rocket science here....

And even the world wide colonial expansion proved to be fail in the long run for a number of British Colonies...But for its failures the queen still reigns on many nations currencies....

Colonialism....Just a polite way to say conquering.

But that was Britain and Germany.

Today we , the USA, seek to control oil. If Iran has half a brain they'll do the Icelandic thing and switch over to a hydrogen economy. We have our tentacles in Iraq, Afghanistan , Haiti...Saudi Arabia is doing a great job of playing to us just like Italy played to Germany... and once we make our move on Iran China and Russia will do its thing and it will be on....again for a third time.

Peak Oil is a bitch...

And I don't get it. Hemp can replace a number of oil products. Hydrogen can serve our transportation needs. Electricity does not have to be coal based but COULD honestly could be based off of any number of alternatives... Maintaining the Oil based economy is not possible and the longer it is drawn out the longer we are in debt to a failing system organized by monopoly men....

No mater what it just can't last. Sooner or later change will come whether they like or not whether we like it or not... Rather than invading oil rich nations in an old and familiar colonial fashion we aught to be investing in those changes... Not for any fruity green peace save the planet love but as a matter of pure economics.

Sigh.... Instead Muslims are playing the part of the Jews and the US is playing the part of germany. I was reading source watch earlier today. Over 10,000 jailed in global detention centers maintained by the CIA...how many do you think aren't muslim?

mmmmmmm..... how fucked

we are.

[boycotteverything]

Sigh.... Instead Muslims are playing the part of the Jews and the US is playing the part of germany.hahahah you think so? a billion Muslims playing the part of 10 million Jews? the US is Gemany? jesus, man. open a fucking history book.

[anarch]

hahahah you think so? a billion Muslims playing the part of 10 million Jews? the US is Gemany? jesus, man. open a fucking history book.

6 billion people on planet earth.

I have read my history nimrod. In case you haven't during world war two Jews were only persecuted by germans where the germans had reach. It is not like Canada had a deal worked out with germany to send their jews to concentration camps.

Yes the USA is repeating the same kinds of actions Germany committed to 70 years ago. And if you can't see that it is only because you willingly choose not to see it.

[Royal]

Sweet thread. Call it marketing or "rebranding", US of A has become incredible in making bad things seem natural or good.

War for resources are now "Freedom Wars" "War on Terror".

I also made the connection of Obama to Hitler when he was getting elected. The idea came to me when I revisited a video "The Century of the Self"

[anarch]

Read

[century]

yet another drive by video by your favourite troll
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[century]

This Video features Islamic Scholar Sheikh Imran Hosein explaining the connection between Khazars & Jewish faith. Historians don't really like to talk about this subject but unfortunately for them vast body of historical evidence, much of which has come to light only in the last three to five decades is out in the open & up for reserch for anyone who wants to reserch it. i will begin by recommending the book called The Thirteenth Tribe written by Arthur Koestler.. in this book Arthur Koestler defuses anti-Semitism by undermining the identification of European Jews with the Jews of the Bible. In this it will be shown that the cry of "anti-Semitism" hurled against those who do oppose the international actions of ones calling themselves Jews, would be much like an immigrated Scotsman to America deciding to live on an Apache Indian reservation, coming to dominate its politics and economics, and then claiming that anyone disagreeing with his political and social agenda is racist and anti-Apache in their beliefs.
Koestler himself did not see alleged Khazar ancestry as diminishing the claim of Jews to Israel, which he felt was based on the United Nations mandate, and not on Biblical covenants or genetic inheritance....

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[KIWI]

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[century]

HAHA The Synagogue of Satan

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[Eyeforalie]

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-nazis-a-warning-from-history/

The OP vids ^^^

[Cogburn]

I just finished the last of the series and I am .... contemplative.

I don't see this happening here. It could almost happen here, and if you're of Arab descent or even look like you were of Arab descent you could say it almost did happen here.

... but it didn't.

For every single ignorant, racist ideologue that gets MSM coverage in this country there are 50,000 that disagree. The New Silent Majority.

They don't post on forums. They don't believe in conspiracy theory. They own a rifle or a pistol or two because their dad told them it was a good idea. They vote. They pay taxes. They are black, white, asian, hispanic, blue, and purple. They are not stupid. They are not rabid. They are normal, happy, content people.

They also will not be fucked with anymore. They will not live in fear. They will not tolerate outdated ideology.

Are there still schools that are fighting over intelligent design? Sure, but do you think any school that is compelled to teach intelligent design will do so in any sort of light that will make it any less the ridiculous nonsense that it is?

A friend of a friend of friend hung Barack Obama in effigy on his front lawn back in Cincinnati. It made the national news. You may say whatever you want about the last election, but we all saw those people at McCain/Palin rallies, either on the Internet or in person.

That's what McCain lost. Period.

We might be showing the signs of empire, but you have to have a lot slicker shit than Hitler to make it happen here. There are far too many wackos that will give away the plot long before it happens.

Unless someone manages to knock down the Sears Tower or the Space Needle, that is.
I still think all of this is 100% true. Too bad it was over a year ago.

[anarch]

Tyranny sucks

[Cogburn]

But she swallows!

[theeindiee]

Tyrannosaurus Rex.

FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BE2]

every hero has a leni riefenstahl to record his great deeds.