View Full Version : NASA probe to find ice on Moon
...its on the way as I type.....$600,000,000 , still looking for water,?......what about the Clementine data, they found a damn "lake-full"........what financed this mission,....Tami-flu sales?
Ducky
06-18-2009, 06:42 PM
...its on the way as I type.....$600,000,000 , still looking for water,?......what about the Clementine data, they found a damn "lake-full"........what financed this mission,....Tami-flu sales?
Kiwi? Give us a link to that man. Sounds wild!
The idiots of the world are thinking that NASA is bombing the moon. Just a booster shell being rammed into it. Not an explosives bomb to destroy the moon.
Ducky
06-18-2009, 06:54 PM
The idiots of the world are thinking that NASA is bombing the moon. Just a booster shell being rammed into it. Not an explosives bomb to destroy the moon.
Just thought of the most (recent) movie: "The Time Machine", in where we had colonized/mined the moon in the future, and something went drastically wrong. The moon ended up splitting apart, and was falling back into the earth (moon's orbit decayed). Hmmmm....
Here Ducky
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31424880/ns/technology_and_science-space/
The idiots of the world are thinking that NASA is bombing the moon. Just a booster shell being rammed into it. Not an explosives bomb to destroy the moon.
what thats about HP ?....I must have missed that
I had dropped by flags ho's to check the BBQ and saw a thread on bombing the moon. People thinking stupid crap as usual. That place is a magnet for the misinformed.
NASA link (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/main/index.html)
LCROSS, on the other hand, will guide an empty upper stage on a collision course with a permanently shaded crater in an effort to kick up evidence of water at the moon's poles. LCROSS itself will also impact the lunar surface during its course of study.
Cheers HP..... :)
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/text/lp_pr_980305.txt
The earlier joint Defense Department-NASA Clementine mission
to the Moon used a radar-based technique that detected ice
deposits in permanently shadowed regions of the lunar south pole.
It is not possible to directly compare the results from Lunar
Prospector to Clementine because of their fundamentally different
sensors, measurement "footprints," and analysis techniques. However,
members of the Clementine science team concluded that its radar
signal detected from 110 million to 1.1 billion tons (100 million
to 1 billion metric tons) of water ice, over an upper area limit
of 5,500 square miles (15,500 square kilometers) of south pole terrain.
The Countdown Clock (http://lcross.arc.nasa.gov/) for impact.
Ducky
06-18-2009, 07:34 PM
From Kiwi's Link: (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31424880/ns/technology_and_science-space/)
[offsite:2ia68lo4]NASA launches unmanned moon probe
First such mission in a decade will use robotic probes to hunt for hidden ice
Nearly 40 years after humans first set foot on the lunar surface, NASA took a giant leap back to the moon with Thursday's launch of two unmanned scouts. It was the first U.S. lunar mission in a decade.
An Atlas 5 rocket launched the two probes, a powerful lunar orbiter and a smaller spacecraft that will hunt for water ice by crashing into the moon, at about 5:32 p.m. ET Thursday from Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida. The mission, NASA hopes, will lay the foundation for its plan to return astronauts to the moon by 2020.
"We're getting ready to take longer strides. To leave the shallows, once again, and step into deeper waters of what President Kennedy called the new ocean of space," said Todd May, manager for NASA's Lunar Precursor Robotic Program. "The first island we plan to explore is the moon itself, our nearest neighbor."[/offsite:2ia68lo4]
The first thought I had was..."all of a sudden these scientists are changing up on their venue, with the pretense of the moon being a 'dead' floating rock orbitting our earth, to...now ALL OF A SUDDEN, there's something MORE GOING ON?!?!?!"
Golly Gee.
A little scientific mathematical back-peddling going on?
thanks for that HP, ,......wonder if its been calibrated by the AA
From Kiwi's Link: (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31424880/ns/technology_and_science-space/)
[offsite:8fci796v]NASA launches unmanned moon probe
First such mission in a decade will use robotic probes to hunt for hidden ice
Nearly 40 years after humans first set foot on the lunar surface, NASA took a giant leap back to the moon with Thursday's launch of two unmanned scouts. It was the first U.S. lunar mission in a decade.
An Atlas 5 rocket launched the two probes, a powerful lunar orbiter and a smaller spacecraft that will hunt for water ice by crashing into the moon, at about 5:32 p.m. ET Thursday from Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida. The mission, NASA hopes, will lay the foundation for its plan to return astronauts to the moon by 2020.
"We're getting ready to take longer strides. To leave the shallows, once again, and step into deeper waters of what President Kennedy called the new ocean of space," said Todd May, manager for NASA's Lunar Precursor Robotic Program. "The first island we plan to explore is the moon itself, our nearest neighbor."[/offsite:8fci796v]
The first thought I had was..."all of a sudden these scientists are changing up on their venue, with the pretense of the moon being a 'dead' floating rock orbitting our earth, to...now ALL OF A SUDDEN, there's something MORE GOING ON?!?!?!"
Golly Gee.
A little scientific mathematical back-peddling going on?
gravity anomalies on the "Dead" moon also
http://pds-geosciences.wustl.edu/missions/clementine/gravtopo.html
Ducky
06-18-2009, 08:11 PM
I clicked your above link.
This is what I got:
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff284/CanuckyDucky/gravityandtopographydata.jpg
Where in particular do we check out?
GhostOfCaptSpaulding
06-18-2009, 08:23 PM
The idiots of the world are thinking that NASA is bombing the moon. Just a booster shell being rammed into it. Not an explosives bomb to destroy the moon.
I wonder where they got that?
[offsite:3pbk0utf]U.S. TO BOMB MOON
There are no aliens up there, as far as we know, but the Americans are preparing to bomb the moon.
A space mission blasted off from Cape Canaveral today carrying a missile that will fire a hole deep in the lunar surface.
But this is no gung-ho display of firepower - it is actually a serious quest for water.
Nasa scientists expect the blast to send out a plume of debris visible from Earth.
mirror.co.uk | U.S. TO BOMB MOON (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/06/18/u-s-to-bomb-moon-115875-21450011/)[/offsite:3pbk0utf]
:lol:
"gravity anomalies"
Japan beat them to it...
[offsite:3pbk0utf]Japan Maps Lunar Far Side Gravity Field
Tokyo, Japan (SPX) Oct 13, 2008
Astronomers are announcing that the precise gravity field of the lunar far side and the global lunar topography map were obtained by KAGUYA spacecraft.
Moon Daily | Japan Maps Lunar Far Side Gravity Field (http://www.moondaily.com/reports/Japan_Maps_Lunar_Far_Side_Gravity_Field_999.html)[/offsite:3pbk0utf]
The L5 project idea on mining was to propel the mined material in to Lunar orbit and gather it from there to transprt to the L5 position......sound feasible ?
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I clicked your above link.
This is what I got:
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff284/CanuckyDucky/gravityandtopographydata.jpg
Where in particular do we check out?
try in here Ducky
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/clementine.html
Ducky
06-18-2009, 09:26 PM
There's only 3 logical reasons.
1. What we know about the moon is wrong, and there ARE areas of concern to be determined, as well as mathematical calculations to be concidered in providing up-to-date data on the properties of the moon.
2. (Include #1) - NASA LIED, as well as other key player researchers involved in lunar exploration/information/etc.
3. Outside influence. Celestial anonamly? - 'interacting with the moon'.
Dont forget this mission to co-incide with the Moon landing of 1969.........so whatever happens the facts are surely to be hard to see through the mass of waving Flags :)
GhostOfCaptSpaulding
06-19-2009, 12:02 AM
Man, where's Lear when we need him...
Man, where's Lear when we need him...
he's probably strapped onto that centaur rocket that was launched today.
GeneralStriker
06-19-2009, 12:20 AM
...its on the way as I type.....$600,000,000 , still looking for water,?......what about the Clementine data, they found a damn "lake-full"........what financed this mission,....Tami-flu sales?they should just send my dog. she's always thirsty and can find water anywhere.
Man, where's Lear when we need him...
I reckon...bad form John not coming back to play........also depriving us of the ensuing dog-fight with Ras and Mr Penny......some people are so selfish :? ...I did see he had joined Hoax-masters.... :smokin:
...its on the way as I type.....$600,000,000 , still looking for water,?......what about the Clementine data, they found a damn "lake-full"........what financed this mission,....Tami-flu sales?they should just send my dog. she's always thirsty and can find water anywhere.
what !!... and end uip like "laika".....fryed by the radiation belt? :shock:
Ducky
06-19-2009, 12:22 AM
Man, where's Lear when we need him...
I think he melted off the scene when we went bellied up in the APeci era. Jurdasic, Crustaesan era.
lolol
A little bird told me that he's hanging out at the Open Minds Forum lately. Probably because they have a 'no tolerance policy' for people who curse, call others out in bad penmenship, et al. Kind of like ATS in ways...those guys. Wouldn't be surprised if they rubbed elbows...lololol
GhostOfCaptSpaulding
06-19-2009, 12:39 AM
Eh...he can give as good as he gets.
And his ideas are always entertaining grist for the thread mill...
Ducky
06-19-2009, 12:42 AM
Eh...he can give as good as he gets.
And his ideas are always entertaining grist for the thread mill...
Were you here when he posted his latest 'naked' avvy pic?
GeneralStriker
06-19-2009, 12:44 AM
...its on the way as I type.....$600,000,000 , still looking for water,?......what about the Clementine data, they found a damn "lake-full"........what financed this mission,....Tami-flu sales?they should just send my dog. she's always thirsty and can find water anywhere.
what !!... and end uip like "laika".....fryed by the radiation belt? :shock:it wouldn't be complete waste. Fox's mother-in-law has recipe for irradiated chow.
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd40/hibits/ImportedPhotos00161.jpg?t=1245383176
Yum!
Ducky
06-19-2009, 12:46 AM
what !!... and end uip like "laika".....fryed by the radiation belt? :shock it wouldn't be complete waste. Fox's mother-in-law has recipe for irradiated chow.
Are you keeping up with the times you old fart?
Did you read what I just posted?
It pertains to John Lear.
GeneralStriker
06-19-2009, 12:48 AM
yeah. i know he's at OM. he emailed me a while back and said he was sick of the shit he takes at this place.
I would think Lear would get booted from OM just like ATS. He doesn't seem to pull punches too often, which is fine in my book, but it seems not in those forums.
GhostOfCaptSpaulding
06-19-2009, 12:53 AM
Were you here when he posted his latest 'naked' avvy pic?
Uh...no he hasn't been here since the 12th of May, I think that was about a week before I got the new computer and was able to return...
Ducky
06-19-2009, 12:57 AM
yeah. i know he's at OM. he emailed me a while back and said he was sick of the shit he takes at this place.
No shit sherlock.
The way we treated the guy.
GeneralStriker
06-19-2009, 12:58 AM
I would think Lear would get booted from OM just like ATS. He doesn't seem to pull punches too often, which is fine in my book, but it seems not in those forums.hahahaha! you're probably right. he'll piss someone off eventually and get spaganked. ...which is what i love about the guy.
GhostOfCaptSpaulding
06-19-2009, 01:02 AM
As long as he gets pictures...
Ducky
06-19-2009, 01:05 AM
I would think Lear would get booted from OM just like ATS. He doesn't seem to pull punches too often, which is fine in my book, but it seems not in those forums.hahahaha! you're probably right. he'll piss someone off eventually and get spaganked. ...which is what i love about the guy.
SPAGANKED....
lololol
Even I'm getting bored making fun of myself...we got to get him back here.
You have connections?
GeneralStriker
06-19-2009, 01:10 AM
connections? sure- my connections and buck will get you on a bus.
He liked my 'I flew a microwave popcorn bag to the moon' comment and he even had a sketch. Good enough for me. This stuff is called opinion, although a few get heated at times. No biggie, at least here.
Guess he expected everyone to always agree with his position or at least give up and give in. He seemed to sling it with the best so I wonder about his leaving for his given reason.
GeneralStriker
06-19-2009, 01:17 AM
yeah- but he's not ready for the bonus round.
Ducky
06-19-2009, 01:20 AM
connections? sure- my connections and buck will get you on a bus.
"The hackin bushes roll like that....How bout a short beer?"
THANKYOU. Thankyou!
o]S4bd6MUVyYgo]
As long as he gets pictures...
or at least a few sketches....... :batman:
WarlordZeroOne
06-19-2009, 07:00 AM
Wonder if the person selling areas of the moon gets the water rights. forget, how much a small area costs but lots of stupid people have purchased from these sellers.and its TRUE. :lol:
GeneralStriker
06-19-2009, 09:56 AM
...its on the way as I type.....$600,000,000 , still looking for water,?......what about the Clementine data, they found a damn "lake-full"........what financed this mission,....Tami-flu sales?
GS NEWS EXCLUSIVE REPORT
GS NEWS can now announce that a careful study of the Clementine photographs seems to have sparked the interest of NASA by giving the agency a clue to the the possibility of the existence of water on Earth's largest satellite. The image in question was discovered by Mr. John Lear after an exhaustive study and seems to indicate that, while not conclusive, there may be compelling evidence of the well known beverage on the moon. Here, as a General Striker exclusive, is an enlargement of Mr. Lear's photograph of the anomaly in question discovered in Copernicus Crater.
http://czechmatediary.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/aiga_drinking_fountain_.jpg
Convincing evidence? We report, you decide.
InfraRedMan
06-19-2009, 11:18 AM
Lear isn't here anymore because he likes namby pamby, back patting, butt licking yes men. A testament to JL's weak character. The man doesn't want to think too hard or be challenged. He wants the path of least resistance. He wants to spend his time in the intellectual wimps paradise that is OM.
IRM :pound:
boycotteverything
06-19-2009, 11:23 AM
Lear isn't here anymore because he likes namby pamby, back patting, butt licking yes men. A testament to JL's weak character. The man doesn't want to think too hard or be challenged. He wants the path of least resistance. He wants to spend his time in the intellectual wimps paradise that is OM.
IRM :pound: Many agree with you. Here's a famous one! http://www.hoaxmasters.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&p=475#p475
Lear isn't here anymore because he likes namby pamby, back patting, butt licking yes men. A testament to JL's weak character. The man doesn't want to think too hard or be challenged. He wants the path of least resistance. He wants to spend his time in the intellectual wimps paradise that is OM.
IRM :pound:
some of the shit slung from the Beaver was getting out of hand , even for this joint.......that never seemed to bother him too much though , the admins sorted it out and the place settled back down to standard mayhem, I would attribute the last departure to a combination of the abuse, quite a nasty tone it had, directed at Pari Spolter, and the general response to just about anything said. The 2 main actors there have not been about since .........
anything is possible in this world, and as long as it is offered as a possibillity and not claimed as a hard fact, its possible for a reasoned conversation to take place, but to claim anything as fact without any hard proof is when things come unstuck , would not surprise me at all if a lot of the stuff he says turns out to be true.......around here I guess he freels like a Ford owner at a Chev rally :alien:
Cogburn
06-20-2009, 04:25 AM
(grumble)
Pari Spolter
(grumble)
Every half-wit with an iota of drug induced insight and a minimal classic education is looking to take pot-shots at Einstein.
Problem for John was that he signed on with a half-wit who's bullshit wasn't up to even the most cursory of real-world observations. If anything Pari let John twist in the wind, forcing him to defend her work against folks with a greater level of insight. I hardly see that as our problem.
Alternative theories for physical reality are fun to play with but in the end they still must be accountable to that very reality. Pari obviously didn't realize that.
John baited personal attacks. "Attack the information not the man" might have been our rule, but it wasn't his. You really can't blame anyone that got drawn into it for doing so.
Every half-wit with an iota of drug induced insight and a minimal classic education is looking to take pot-shots at Einstein.
classic Sagan 101............. :)
John baited personal attacks. "Attack the information not the man" might have been our rule, but it wasn't his. You really can't blame anyone that got drawn into it for doing so.
if ya cant beat em, join em....................not a good idea IMO, :rambo:
Spike1957
06-20-2009, 05:34 AM
If you still believe Nasa's fairy tale on why there going back, well you'll believe anything.
John...Hijack this thread and tell em why Nasa are going back again! :shock:
WarlordZeroOne
06-20-2009, 06:19 AM
They are going back to the Moon, i beleive its to help and advance the STARWARS project. you know shooting NUKES down before they can reach any height.
If you still believe Nasa's fairy tale on why there going back, well you'll believe anything.
John...Hijack this thread and tell em why Nasa are going back again! :shock:
who are you talking to spike ? Ive been a "bases on the moon" nut -job since the early 70's, a time when John Lear laughed in who-evers face that would have sugested the possibilities, as was also his take on UFO's, 90 % of what he says is not new, in fact most of its been around for donkeys years........and any way, John will be busy, so why dont you fill us in ........ 8)
WarlordZeroOne
06-22-2009, 06:11 AM
Its time the U.S.A. started to build a huge base on the moon,and beat every other Mother to it, then they can really keep an eye on that axis of EVIL, as well as a platform for investigating other planets etc,build a bigger Space Shuttle,one that can land on the moon and take off again back to Mother Earth.
Its time the U.S.A. started to build a huge base on the moon,and beat every other Mother to it, then they can really keep an eye on that axis of EVIL, as well as a platform for investigating other planets etc,build a bigger Space Shuttle,one that can land on the moon and take off again back to Mother Earth.
take a gander in here WZ0 :shock:
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/
Cogburn
06-22-2009, 01:02 PM
Its time the U.S.A. started to build a huge base on the moon,and beat every other Mother to it, then they can really keep an eye on that axis of EVIL, as well as a platform for investigating other planets etc,build a bigger Space Shuttle,one that can land on the moon and take off again back to Mother Earth.
take a gander in here WZ0 :shock:
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/
Damn, you're mean.
WarlordZeroOne
06-22-2009, 02:26 PM
KIWI is not mean Cog, i asked a question that i knew F/A about, KIWI kindly pointed me in an amazing direction for information on the statement i made above,and thanx KIWI,thats another thing about AmKoids some people go out of their way to help you and some other members cannot be arsed and when you get a web address that answers all the Q.s in my statement i call that GREAT.
Cogburn
06-22-2009, 04:34 PM
Aw geez... He's actually reading it and believing it...
KIWI you're really fucking mean.
Hey WZ0, Enjoy your new found "soul catcher" images. You get the Picard.
http://i43.tinypic.com/33k6j6e.jpg
KIWI you're really fucking mean.
attack the info not the man kima-sabi ...... :lol: