Here it comes!

[pack3tg0st]

This could be propaganda... or this could be real... either way, this doesn't bode well...

Watch Israel now...

[offsite=http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.aspx?tabid=79:13c6fgyt]Is Hamas helping to quell Iran riots?

Several Iranians caught up in the post-presidential election rioting in Tehran told The Jerusalem Post on Wednesday that armed Arab forces aligned with the Palestinian terror group Hamas are playing an active role in suppressing the supporters of Mir Mousavi, who is believed to have lost a rigged election to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Some 20 Iranians have been killed so far at protest rallies that have now spread to other major Iranian cities. People who say they witnessed some of the killings insist they were carried out by Palestinian gunmen.

"The most important thing that I believe people outside of Iran should be aware of is the participation of Palestinian forces in these riots," said one young man.

Another man said he hoped Israel would soon "come to its senses" and deal ruthlessly with "those Palestinian animals."

When asked by the Post if perhaps the Arab gunmen he had seen could have been Lebanese terrorists aligned with Hizballah, he replied that on the streets of Tehran it is no secret - Arab forces aligned with Hamas are operating in the city on behalf of the regime.

Hamas, for its part, has publicly welcomed Ahmadinejad's reelection. The group has long been known to receive arms and funding from Iran, and Hamas terrorists often receive training in the Islamic Republic before returning to the Gaza Strip.

Meanwhile, Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak on Wednesday cautioned those in the international community against getting too gung-ho about backing Ahmadinejad's opponent. In an interview with Army Radio, Barak noted that Mir Mousavi is no less a fundamentalist Islamic demagogue than Ahmadinejad, and that his presidency would almost certainly not mark the end of Iran's nuclear program.

Barak's remarks echoed those of US President Barack Obama a day earlier, when he reminded reporters that Ahmadinejad and Mousavi share very similar views and policies, especially regarding Iran's quest for nuclear weapons.[/offsite:13c6fgyt]

Sigh...

this is going to play out like a soap opera isn't it...

[Snow Crash]

Considering the source, and the language used, I think this stinks of propaganda. I'm tempted to bet theres not even a fraction of any truth in this, and that its yet another crock of shit dreamt up by shit stirring zionists.

[skunk]

I'm with snow crash, look at the source. The problem with disinfo is that there's usually a grain of truth to it. What's true in the article?

[pack3tg0st]

Well, propaganda or no... it means that someone is trying to drag us into this conflict...

Could be Israel (two enemies, one fight), Russia (They've backed the Iranian Gov't) or even Iran... someone could have leaked that story that Israeli media is all to happy to run, or they could have dreamed it up themselves...

Either way, the story has oozed its way over to some mediocre coverage in the UK...

And now the Wall Street Journal is reporting it...

Its going to be covered by the MSM eventually... and the public sentiment will sway in the direction the artist desired...

True or not... this is a very bad scenario.

[skunk]

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Fucking hypocrites.

[pack3tg0st]

Trying to track this story on the Palestinian intervention... to see what happens to it...

Its growing in the blogosphere faster than shit...

UK Gaurdian and Wall Street Journal are covering it as news...

and now, another story popping up on the Jerusalem Post

[offsite=http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1245184851049&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull:3as5d7ma]Palestinian Hamas members are helping the Iranian authorities crush street protests in support of reformist presidential candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi, two protesters told The Jerusalem Post On Tuesday.[/offsite:3as5d7ma]

Sigh...

[skunk]

If it sounds like bullshit, smells like bullshit, tastes like bullshit, its probably...Ice cream!

[pack3tg0st]

yah, but people believe bullshit :P

thats the problem I'm trying to point out...

If this story gets picked up by CNN... you can bet your ass people here will be pissed, and want the pres to intervene...

Manufacturing of Concent to enter Iran: Successful

know what I mean?

[boycotteverything]

Short of some sort of massacre there's no way Obama gets dragged in. He's done enough already. It was the Cairo speech that inspired this uprising. The Persian middle class wants what we have- Barack Obama.

[WarlordZeroOne]

I'll taste the sauce (not the Source) i said the middle East is a melting pot. and it tastes CRAP.

[pack3tg0st]

Short of some sort of massacre there's no way Obama gets dragged in.

Suppose Israel gets involved?

We've been in bed with Israel for 50 years now...

Not just in bed for some mutual gratification...

50 years of spooning and love letters... and now a president can't even get elected in the U.S. unless he swears to the public he's got some sort of undying devotion to protecting Israel...

[boycotteverything]

I'll taste the sauce (not the Source) i said the middle East is a melting pot. and it tastes CRAP.hahahaha definitely a strange neighborhood.

[boycotteverything]

Suppose Israel gets involved? The Mossad is always involved in Iran. But this is bigger than even them. Israel will have to let the chips fall where they may.

[pack3tg0st]

hahahaha definitely a strange neighborhood.

LOL Understated slightly methinks lol

http://www.socalbubble.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/understatement.jpg

[boycotteverything]

hahahaha yeah. i'll take colorado or michigan any day of the week.

[WarlordZeroOne]

And you would be DEAD right boycott,only problem there's no Black Gooey stuff under that sand,at least i don't think so,its in the melting pot.

[Ima Nasshole]

It was the Cairo speech that inspired this uprising. The Persian middle class wants what we have- Barack Obama.
Holy shit! You need to put the fucking Kool aid down. Let's see, George Bush removed Iran's greatest external threat, and provided them with an example of democracy next door, and dinner jacket stole the election in a manner obvious to everyone outside the White House. But you think a few weak words by a Chicago Nobody started the revolution?

Question, when Obama's inaction gets all these people killed, will you still claim credit for him?

[pack3tg0st]

Actually nasshole... Obama's speech was worded and timed precisely to affect the Iranian elections...

That much was obvious...

[Ima Nasshole]

Once it becomes clear which side will be victorious, only then will Barry come out to give support.

If it looks like the Mullah's are winning, Barry will say something like Moussavi was "confused" and "disoriented." If on the other hand, the protesters win, Barry will claim full credit for creating peace in our time.

How lucky the world is to be have been given this Glorious Leader who is shrewd enough to hedge his bets down to the wire.

[boycotteverything]

, George Bush removed Iran's greatest external threat, and provided them with...hegemony in Mesopotamia? hahahah You're such a brain-dead ditto head. That 'Chicago Nobody' is the most inspirational American leader since Jack Kennedy.

[pack3tg0st]

After his speech and admission that the U.S. secretly affected Iranian politics in the past, if Obama decides to get involved at all, The Iranian people will not accept him... No matter who "wins".

He's doing the smart thing... he timed his speech perfectly, and said just the right shit to be able to get the people of Iran to tell the Mullahs what they want... It was actually a pretty remarkable PR acheivement... (Obama is an EXCELLENT propagandist, possibly the best in decades that's been in office)

Obama has stacked the deck so that the united states can't intervene... no matter who's "winning"

[Ima Nasshole]

Actually nasshole... Obama's speech was worded and timed precisely to affect the Iranian elections...

That much was obvious...
You truly think his speech had an affect on that election? Do me a favor Pack... Quote me a line or two from this "inspirational speech" that would enbolden the people of Iran to revolt. Let me save you the time, you can't.

Which leaves me wondering... How does not mentioning the Iranian people in his Cairo speech inspire them to action?

Also, how does not mentioning them for three days after this revolt began, continue to inspire them?

Let me guess, seeming to support the mullahs by hedging and caveats inspired them still further?

The man is an inspiration, even when silent.

And even when he's not showing power, soft or any other kind, he's in fact showing the greatest power of all -- LOVE.

Fucking A, all I've seen is that they're nearly begging for some show of support from Obama, which kind of suggests the Cairo speech didn't really do it for them. And even then, do you really believe the revolt would be happening if dinner jacket hadn't stolen the election in a manner that was obvious to everyone? The true inspiration for this revolt is the utter incompetence of the mullahs' in declaring a winner when barely enough time had lapsed to count a single precint.

Once again, you fuckers need to put the fucking kool aid down.

[boycotteverything]

The Iranian people will not accept him... No matter who "wins". I have to disagree with that. They've already accepted him and understand that, while he supports them, he's reluctant to give the Mullah's an easy target. The people of Iran are savvy, aware and forever intellectually curious. Don't sell them short.

[Ima Nasshole]

, George Bush removed Iran's greatest external threat, and provided them with...hegemony in Mesopotamia? hahahah You're such a brain-dead ditto head. That 'Chicago Nobody' is the most inspirational American leader since Jack Kennedy.
Brain dead? I got your brain dead right here.[attachment=0:39ozcz9h]On the hunt.jpg[/attachment:39ozcz9h]



Unless you have evidence that Obama's speech is a direct cause of this revolution, you are talking out of your ass.

The American colonists didn't just decide in July 1776 to declare independence, it was the culmination of a process that had been building for 13 years. Attributing this mass demonstration to a 30 minute speech in Cairo a couple of weeks ago is the height of projection and ignorance.

[boycotteverything]

Quote me a line or two from this "inspirational speech""The Holy Koran..."

"Something is happening and you don't know what is..
Do you, Mister Jones?" Dylan

[boycotteverything]

Here's another picture from that same day in July. Read it and weep, Mr. Limbaugh...

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd40/hibits/DNC/DSCN4742.jpg?t=1245332977

[pack3tg0st]

LOL nass... you haven't read all my stuff on Obama apparently... no kool-aide here...

The inspiration in the speech came when Obama offered to open a dialoga for peaceful talks with the world of Islam... He told the people of Iran that he would support them and their nuclear program for peaceful use (i.e. nuclear power plants).

His speech offering the olive branch made Ahmadinejad look like an asshole... He has been running the platform of "america is just a buncha dicks" for years... That speech was aimed specifically at the people... not the governments of the middle east...

Obama was the first modern president to speak to muslims with respect... look at his speech... he never once mentions "terrorism". When is the last time you heard a speech without the word "terror" or "terrorists"? Instead he calls them "extremists". The muslim world thinks that when we say "Terrorism" that we really are saying "Muslims".

Seriously man... that Cairo speech was genius... It was a Public Relations wet dream... everything was worded so specifically...

Now you might need to stop getting your political news from Rush Limbaugh and Faux news... You're falling for the rhetoric Nass... you're believing the bullshit spewed out, and repeating conservative talking points left and right... Take a step back, and conduct your own analysis of the situation...

I've never met or seen someone who was wrong 100% of the time... Conservatives would have you believe Obama is dead wrong on everything... its all propaganda... Throw shit at a wall and see what sticks...

Someone 100% anti-Obama is just as much of a sheep as someone 100% pro-obama... they just fell for a different propagandist's bullshit.

[boycotteverything]

Now you might need to stop getting your political news from Rush Limbaugh and Faux newsThe prospect of that is about the same as getting my cat to stop shitting in the garden. Ain't gonna happen. Ever...

[pack3tg0st]

Get Rush Limbaugh to shit in your garden... that might keep the cat away...

[boycotteverything]

He doesn't need my garden. He's got 25 million minds to shit in.

[hp]

Get Rush Limbaugh to shit in your garden... that might keep the cat away...

He quite often shits on the radio air waves and his herd of 'cats' keeps coming back. It appears the cats love his shit.

[Ima Nasshole]

LOL nass... you haven't read all my stuff on Obama apparently... no kool-aide here...

The inspiration in the speech came when Obama offered to open a dialoga for peaceful talks with the world of Islam... He told the people of Iran that he would support them and their nuclear program for peaceful use (i.e. nuclear power plants).

His speech offering the olive branch made Ahmadinejad look like an asshole... He has been running the platform of "america is just a buncha dicks" for years... That speech was aimed specifically at the people... not the governments of the middle east...

Obama was the first modern president to speak to muslims with respect... look at his speech... he never once mentions "terrorism". When is the last time you heard a speech without the word "terror" or "terrorists"? Instead he calls them "extremists". The muslim world thinks that when we say "Terrorism" that we really are saying "Muslims".

Seriously man... that Cairo speech was genius... It was a Public Relations wet dream... everything was worded so specifically...

Now you might need to stop getting your political news from Rush Limbaugh and Faux news... You're falling for the rhetoric Nass... you're believing the bullshit spewed out, and repeating conservative talking points left and right... Take a step back, and conduct your own analysis of the situation...

I've never met or seen someone who was wrong 100% of the time... Conservatives would have you believe Obama is dead wrong on everything... its all propaganda... Throw shit at a wall and see what sticks...

Someone 100% anti-Obama is just as much of a sheep as someone 100% pro-obama... they just fell for a different propagandist's bullshit.

Falling for the rhetoric? Just because some other ignorant fuck plants a limbaugh seed don't make the mistake of falling for it yourself. Bro, if you think for one second I am a Rush/Hannity/Fox talking head, you haven't read any of MY stuff. I respect you Pack, always have, always will, but the unending vistas and soaring heights of your ignorance are truly breathtaking if you think a 30 minute speech was the sole inspiration for these brave souls to take to the streets.

FYI, out of the 545 fucks in D.C there's only one that I believe has this country's best interest at heart, his name is Ron Paul and I had to write his fucking name in to vote for him. I'm not 100% anti-Obama, but I'm getting there fast.

[skunk]

If cat is code name for dumb fuck, that's an insult to cats everywhere. Rush Limbaugh's crowd makes jesus cry.

[hp]

Rush would have driven the first nail at the cruxifiction.

[boycotteverything]

Bro, if you think for one second I am a Rush/Hannity/Fox talking head, you haven't read any of MY stuff.I've read your racist insults. Your stuff... Straight out of the Limbaugh paradigm. You can't hide behind Ron Paul. You've been flushed into the open. You're an unprincipled Likud/ Neocon shill- the exact opposite of Dr. Paul.

[pack3tg0st]

Falling for the rhetoric? Just because some other ignorant fuck plants a limbaugh seed don't make the mistake of falling for it yourself.

I'm not... I regularly surf their sites for research into propaganda... I also hit up the Liberal sites... along with all the MSM news sites... Its all propaganda... The only way to REALLY know what's going on is to research it yourself...


Bro, if you think for one second I am a Rush/Hannity/Fox talking head, you haven't read any of MY stuff. I respect you Pack, always have, always will,

As I do you.


but the unending vistas and soaring heights of your ignorance are truly breathtaking if you think a 30 minute speech was the sole inspiration for these brave souls to take to the streets.

I see what you did there... I never once suggested that it was the sole inspiration... There are many contributing factors... however, judging by how the protesters are looking toward Obama and the U.S. for support, I would say that it had an effect... they feel like Obama is going to come charging in like a superhero and save the day.


FYI, out of the 545 fucks in D.C there's only one that I believe has this country's best interest at heart, his name is Ron Paul and I had to write his fucking name in to vote for him. I'm not 100% anti-Obama, but I'm getting there fast.

I would say most politicians feel they are doing what is in the country's best interest, they just differ on the methods needed to achieve what is best... Ron Paul IMHO probably has the best method in mind... But I don't think all the other fuckheads have malicious intent... They just have piss poor ideas.

[hp]

I would say most politicians feel they are doing what is in the country's best interest...

The problem is that their idea of the country is short about 290 million people.

[boycotteverything]

I would say most politicians feel they are doing what is in the country's best interest...

The problem is that their idea of the country is short about 290 million people.I'd say that most of them have only their own interests at heart- the main interest being getting their asses reelected.

[Ima Nasshole]

Bro, if you think for one second I am a Rush/Hannity/Fox talking head, you haven't read any of MY stuff.I've read your racist insults. Your stuff... Straight out of the Limbaugh paradigm. You can't hide behind Ron Paul. You've been flushed into the open. You're an unprincipled Likud/ Neocon shill- the exact opposite of Dr. Paul.
BE you worthless fucking hippycrite. How many more times must I cock slap you with your own words you ignorant fuck. When you cry foul and threaten to leave, why won't you just stay gone for fucks sake. Remember your misogyny thread, yeah, thought so. If not for the Apeci of 2009, those words would still be here to haunt you.

And Pack, you didn't suggest his speech was the sole inspiration, my bad I apologize, it was this stupid kool aid drinking fuck.

Hey BE, :pound: :pound: :pound: :pound:

[boycotteverything]

Remember your misogyny thread,Damn I loved that thread. You're the guy who photoshops dicks on young women, right? Great work, Mr. Asshole.

[pack3tg0st]

meh

[Snow Crash]

http://www.socalbubble.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/understatement.jpg

LOL

Thats a brilliant pic

[Snow Crash]

He quite often shits on the radio air waves and his herd of 'cats' keeps coming back. It appears the cats love his shit.

Pigeon, sir, it would appear that you are confusing cats with pussies...

[boycotteverything]

smite for truth!

[WarlordZeroOne]

New Topic Heading is This: Boy, Pack, Ima, Skunk. Nass, Homin: lol. :lol:

[boycotteverything]

Well shit, Warlord- feel free to jump in; the water's warm. Oh yeah- you just did...

[WarlordZeroOne]

No Fuckin ThANK-YOU .look at the title i made up and say it fast, thats the Laugh,Don't take it Personally, you are all great i like how you talk to each other you don't give a FUCK,thats good. i like AmKon.

[boycotteverything]

NEW DEVELOPMENT!!!

From here:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31422044/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa/


Meanwhile, state radio said Thursday that the council has invited the three defeated candidates in the election — Mousavi, Mehdi Karroubi and Mohsen Rezaf — to a meeting on Saturday to discuss their complaints.

Another pivotal figure in the escalating drama is former President Hashemi Rafsanjani, who heads the Assembly of Experts — a cleric-run body that is empowered to dismiss the supreme leader.

This could mark the end of the Supreme Leader. By the end of the day on Saturday the people of Iran may well have a new Supreme Leader who will call for a new election. Rafsanjani may be a corrupt cad but he knows which way the wind blows. I suspect that Mohamed Khatami may have a hand in this as well. Khatami is a good man. The People are on the verge of victory!

http://www.russiablog.org/KhatamiSmiling.jpg
Khatami. A good man.

[WarlordZeroOne]

Khat-Ami, Mon Ami,we are all good friends untill someone hurts us. Good Men are Rare, like Rocking Horse Shit.

[Snow Crash]

Khat-Ami, Mon Ami,we are all good friends untill someone hurts us. Good Men are Rare, like Rocking Horse Shit.

Does your dealer tell you about what he puts in the white powder?

[Ima Nasshole]

Remember your misogyny thread,Damn I loved that thread. You're the guy who photoshops dicks on young women, right? Great work, Mr. Asshole.
Oh you remember... Well then, to quote a moron you know well "You've been flushed into the open. You're an unprincipled Likud/ Neolib shill- the exact opposite of Barack Obama".

And I'm sure the dick I put on your daughters head was not the first one she's ever had there. If my memory serves me correctly, there's another photo around here somewhere with a dick on her forehead, I believe we was wearing glasses and sporting a mustache.

And by the way, it's "resident asshole" to you!

[pack3tg0st]

Fuck guys... chill out lol

http://www.janapochop.com/uploaded_images/no-drama-795172.jpg

[boycotteverything]

Damn, man- I'm just flicking a pesky gnat off my ass.

[hp]

As rare as hen's teeth...

[Ima Nasshole]

And I'm just wiping my ass with a boycott artist.

[pack3tg0st]

http://jenchoi.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/insp_sexual_tension.png

[boycotteverything]

fuck. what was this thread about?

[pack3tg0st]

oh man.. the propaganda in my OP is about to go viral...

It has hit GLP...

Lemme see if ATS has it yet?

edit: Nothing on ATS about this article yet... but with it on GLP, its only a matter of time...

More media picking up the story in the UK though...

[boycotteverything]

Nah- it's a dumb story.

There is a secret Grand Obama Strategy however. If the US is successful in midwifing the Khatami faction in Iran- Obama will make a personal visit to Tehran and seal the peace. At that point Iran inherits the Iraq war due its alliance with the Iraqi Shia. The fight against the Sunni factions (ncluding the Binny Boyz) becomes their fight in a grand alliance with the US, all of Europe, Pak, India and Russia. Binny's head is not far from the pike. Barack is no man to trifle with- he's no rope-doped Bush. Israel will be swept along in the irresistible tide like the little no-account Scarsdale suburb that it is- and there will be a Palestinian State. Just remember- you heard it here first.

[pack3tg0st]

Yah, its a dumb story BE... and its sheer propaganda...

But, its all the buzz in the conservative blogosphere...

Its on the Wall Street Journal's webpage... Sean Hannity's... The UK gaurdian...

its retarded, but its spreading... just like propaganda should...

[boycotteverything]

Read above. The world has a new chess grand master. Never mind- I'll re-post it.


There is a secret Grand Obama Strategy however. If the US is successful in midwifing the Khatami faction in Iran- Obama will make a personal visit to Tehran and seal the peace. At that point Iran inherits the Iraq war due its alliance with the Iraqi Shia. The fight against the Sunni factions (ncluding the Binny Boyz) becomes their fight in a grand alliance with the US, all of Europe, Pak, India and Russia. Binny's head is not far from the pike. Barack is no man to trifle with- he's no rope-doped Bush. Israel will be swept along in the irresistible tide like the little no-account Scarsdale suburb that it is- and there will be a Palestinian State. Just remember- you heard it here first.

[boycotteverything]

Machiavelli eat your heart out. There's a new sheriff in town.

[pack3tg0st]

Its hit the Forum areas of several MSM sites now...

still not being reported on... but its getting closer

[Yex]

Yah, its a dumb story BE... and its sheer propaganda...

But, its all the buzz in the conservative blogosphere...

Its on the Wall Street Journal's webpage... Sean Hannity's... The UK gaurdian...

its retarded, but its spreading... just like propaganda should...



The Guardian is the most left wing daily paper in UK and really shouldn`t be mentioned on the same line as that twat Hannity

[GeneralStriker]

Yah, its a dumb story BE... and its sheer propaganda...

But, its all the buzz in the conservative blogosphere...

Its on the Wall Street Journal's webpage... Sean Hannity's... The UK gaurdian...

its retarded, but its spreading... just like propaganda should...



The Guardian is the most left wing daily paper in UK and really shouldn`t be mentioned on the same line as that twat HannityDamn- I love the Guardian! You're absolutely right.

[Ima Nasshole]

Talk about inspiration...

Instead of listening to Tirico and VanPelt on my way to work today I was inspired to listen to Rush Limbaugh for some reason. And I gotta tell you, what I heard shocked me. Did you know Barack Obama illegally fired a guy (Gerald Walpin) for investigating one of his supporters in California? Holy shit! Evidently Obama broke his own law, he broke a law he fucking wrote, un fucking believable...

If this was Bush, the press would be having a field day.

Hope and change, I gotta laugh!

[GeneralStriker]

I was inspired to listen to Rush Limbaugh for some reasonhahahah nuff said

[Cogburn]

If this was Bush, the press would be having a field day.If this were Bush, the same amount of nothing would have happened as a result.

Need I remind you of the federal prosecutors that were illegally fired?

Stop trying to convince yourself there's a difference beyond skin color and reading level of our past and current Presidents.

[Ima Nasshole]

If this was Bush, the press would be having a field day.If this were Bush, the same amount of nothing would have happened as a result.

Need I remind you of the federal prosecutors that were illegally fired?

Stop trying to convince yourself there's a difference beyond skin color and reading level of our past and current Presidents.

Well Cog, if Bush broke a law firing those federal prosecutors, I guess that means Clinton did also? And which law is that by the way?

[Cogburn]

Damnit... I'm drawing a blank.

There was a law passed in the 19th century to preserve the continuity of the federal government between elections by removing the ability of the Executive branch to terminate the employment of non-appointed officials without due cause.

The problem was that every election even the county postmasters were being changed for folks that were in ideological agreement with the incoming administration.

Was it during Grant's administration.... shit I can't remember. I'll see if I can't find the name of it.

[Ima Nasshole]

Dude quit looking, I'm just busting your balls. And I must say at no point have I attempted to convince myself any of these douchebags are any different. For instance take Senator John Ensign (R) Nevada, this fucking worhtless tool cheated on his wife with a married woman and thought no one would find out... If all of this bullshit wasn't so serious it would be laughable. They are all the fucking same, every last fucking one of them (note I'm still holding out for Ron Paul, regardless of what buttfukeverything says about my party affiliation)

[Cogburn]

You know Ron Paul is a freemason, right? :)

It's all a stupid fucking joke and the only people that truly get mauled by it are those that avail themselves to such lunacy for legitimacy or sustenance.

Render under Caesar what is Caesar's. The rest belongs to me.

For as long as that may be maintained in any avenue of American society we are still free.

Politics is little more than Gossip Girls without the "XOXO".

[Ima Nasshole]

You know Ron Paul is a freemason, right? :)

Politics is little more than Gossip Girls without the "XOXO".

You think Biden is Baracks BFF?

Edited to add: Do you think all Freemasons are bad?

[Cogburn]

Of course not.

I am one.

[boycotteverything]

And now back to our regularly scheduled program...

This thing is far from over. We're watching the power of the state dissipate before our eyes. Mark this time- it's a model for the world. It's owing to the sea change in American polity which gave hope to the disposed all over the planet. These are truly exciting times. It's the beginning of imaginative overcoming. We only remain enslaved when we're complicit in our own captivity. Watch, listen and learn. The Persians have much to teach us.



NEW DEVELOPMENT!!!

From here:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31422044/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa/


Meanwhile, state radio said Thursday that the council has invited the three defeated candidates in the election — Mousavi, Mehdi Karroubi and Mohsen Rezaf — to a meeting on Saturday to discuss their complaints.

Another pivotal figure in the escalating drama is former President Hashemi Rafsanjani, who heads the Assembly of Experts — a cleric-run body that is empowered to dismiss the supreme leader.

This could mark the end of the Supreme Leader. By the end of the day on Saturday the people of Iran may well have a new Supreme Leader who will call for a new election. Rafsanjani may be a corrupt cad but he knows which way the wind blows. I suspect that Mohamed Khatami may have a hand in this as well. Khatami is a good man. The People are on the verge of victory!

http://www.russiablog.org/KhatamiSmiling.jpg
Khatami. A good man.

[Cogburn]

The people may have spoken, but what was it that they said, exactly?

Khatami is a western puppet and apologist.

The only thing such actions will bring is the delay of the riots.

Mousavi has never disavowed the policies of the Revolutionary Council. He has not backed away from a nuclear armed Iran. He has not stated that Israel (or Jews) have the right to exist.

So he said that the Holocaust happened and that Hamas was beneath their support. Wow. Earthshaking.

[boycotteverything]

ye of little faith...

[Cogburn]

ye of little faith...
Faith is only as worthy as the object of devotion.

There's no reason to have faith that it means anything more substantial than changing Obama for Bush.

Iraq war? Still going.
Gitmo? Still open.
War crimes investigations? Not happening.
Political cronyism? Still the way of Washington.
Corporate favoritism? ROFL Yup.

The only thing we got in the last election was soul food on the menu at the White House... and I voted for him because I like collard greens.

[boycotteverything]

The most impressive aspect, to me, of this Persian uprising is its lack of ideology. ideology is a trap. who knows what will come of it? the essential thrust of it all is anarchistic. will it become the world's first syndicalist society? certainly we can't know. i do know that i thoroughly respect the courage that i'm witnessing. oh- and by the way- saying that Khatami is an american puppet is simply to buy into the propaganda of the reactionary regime that defeated him with precisely that slogan.

[Cogburn]

All lie has a grain of truth.

There would be no Revolutionary Council were it not for the Shahs.

Perhaps they are simply people who know a puppet when they see one from previous experience.

[boycotteverything]

well- certainly they know oppression. they've doubled down on the Faustian bargain and perhaps they've learned. i'd say bookmark this page and revisit it on monday.

[skunk]

A related story:

Web Weapons Connect A Revolution In Iran (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/17/eveningnews/main5094474.shtml?tag=cbsContent;cbsCarousel)


[offsite:2coi5awm]The Iranian government's crackdown on the media - aimed at choking off protests - has been defeated by computer keystrokes.

The Internet is awash with anger, fueled by the disputed election, reports CBS News correspondent Bob Orr.

Gunshots can be heard in a YouTube video, which shows an injured protestor being carried to safety.

On the social networking site Facebook, where Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei appears to have his own page, there is a scene with demonstrators yelling at police.

But the frontline in this cyber-driven revolt may be Twitter where anonymous protestors and sympathizers are trading short messages.

"This is the first step," one blogger wrote. "We stop Khamenei and Ahmadin."

Another echoed a warning from opposition leader Mousavi, writing: "People will howl for the innocent killed on Monday."

The impact of Twitter has not been lost on the U.S. State Department, which called on the company to defer maintenance to allow the Web site to stay up.

"We promote the right of free expression," said Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. "I wouldn't know a twitter from a tweeter but apparently it is very important."

Computer forensics expert Gary Warner says he has found evidence that opposition forces are actually using Twitter to do more than pass information.

One can see an actual cyberattack against Iranian government Web sites triggered by a mouse click on a link posted on Twitter.

"Sitting in your living room or your office in the United States you can actually directly involve yourself in the conflict that's going on in Iran," Warner said.

The Iranian government is responding by taking down opposition Web sites and restricting Internet access. Protestors claim some computer equipment has been smashed.

It's impossible to know exactly what is going on in Iran but - accurate or not - information still flows.

"It's exceptionally difficult for a government to lock down communications in this day and age with regard to technology adoption," said CBS News cyberterrorism consultant Paul Kurtz.

Cyber experts say government officials cannot shut down all communications because their supporters use the same tools and they also want to know what opponents are saying. But there are signs tonight Iran's censorship is spreading and becoming more effective.[/offsite:2coi5awm]

[pack3tg0st]

Coincidentally... I just discovered this... on Twitter... from one of the "iranian" dudes twitting:

[offsite:12w2hhtp]RT Iran: The rumor about Hezbolah & Hamas helping Basij, until today I never believed it but I saw them today with my own eyes[/offsite:12w2hhtp]

I'm also seeing that the propaganda piece in the OP has now made it to the daily Kos

Canada Free Press has picked up the story:

[offsite:12w2hhtp]Encountering Hamas in Teheran is tantamount to meeting an African American at a KKK gathering.

And yet, the Sunni terrorist group from the Palestinian Authority is now joining hands with the Shi’ite mullahs of Iran to crush street protests in favor of opposition candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi and to solidify the re-election of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.[/offsite:12w2hhtp]

All this from the Israeli newspaper reporting it... This "information" on the Palestinians helping the Iranians all coming from one source... inside Israel?

Suspect to say the least... Judging by the way the origional "breaking" story was written... I'm still saying Propaganda.

[skunk]

A Mossad planted news article. Hm. Its not like they haven't done it before.

[pack3tg0st]

Would Israel really have anything to gain by making that claim though?

All they would get is a few ppl to go "oooh Palestine is eviiiil!"

I'm thinking, and this might seem odd... but I think Iran might have planted it...

Think about it... someone says Palestine... and the world goes... oh wait... yah, you handle that...

Why release in an Israeli media source?

Because it puts the United States in a fucked up situation...

[GeneralStriker]

Israel knows it's in their interests that Ahmadinijad falls. He's Hitler to them.

[pack3tg0st]

Either way... the Iranians have more testicular fortitude that us Americans do...

We've been allowing our elections to get stolen for a while now...

[GeneralStriker]

hahahaha yeah. they've been there too. this is all about the Cairo speech. i'm convinced of that. they're a nation of dreamers and poets.

[pack3tg0st]

I'm sure history will reflect that it was a result of the cairo speech...

But I'm also sure we'll get some "inside info" on those "foreign intelligence agencies" that allegedly have been "meddling".

[Ducky]

I'm sure history will reflect that it was a result of the cairo speech...

But I'm also sure we'll get some "inside info" on those "foreign intelligence agencies" that allegedly have been "meddling".

As long as there's no cupcake images...I'm happy.

[pack3tg0st]

You asked for it!!!

[spoiler:1n1qp30h]http://farm1.static.flickr.com/47/127410777_3c4053f7ba.jpg?v=0

HA! You were expecting something else weren't ya :P[/spoiler:1n1qp30h]

[Ducky]

Here's something for Pack to :pound:

g]X28NfgL9AhEg]

[pack3tg0st]

Its ok Ducks... I got two girls one cup!

[spoiler:1denq05a]http://inquisitr.com/extra/wp-content/2008/12/2girls1cup.jpg

You thought it was going to be somethign else again didn't you...

Pervert :P[/spoiler:1denq05a]

[Ima Nasshole]

hahahaha yeah. they've been there too. this is all about the Cairo speech. i'm convinced of that. they're a nation of dreamers and poets.
You know what I'm convinced of?

BE, I see by your post you've jerked off in your sock again.

Yup, all about the Cairo speech! Had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that Dinner Jacket and the mullah's failed (miserably) to accurately guage the time necessary (in declaring a landslide victory) to tally hand cast ballots in a national presidential election that the opposition knew was rigged 3.9 years ago. You're right, it had to be the 30 minute reading of a telepromptor in Cairo.

Thou shalt not drinketh thy kool aid.

[GeneralStriker]

Yup, all about the Cairo speech!So you finally get it. Very good, Mr. Limbaugh.

[GeneralStriker]

General Striker Breaking News Alert!

SUPREME LEADER SIGNS OWN DEATH WARRANT

In a surprise announcement last night at Tehran University, Ayatollah Khamenei announced that he is sentencing himself to death by stoning. In the first hours after his announcement more than 1 million baseball sized green cobble stones were sold at rock stands throughout Tehran according to Ahmad Silikoni, CEO of Rocks R Us LLC in nearby Qom. Mr. Silikoni reported that the demand was so high that a shortage of projectiles has resulted. RRUs main supplier, Rock 'n Roll Novelties, Inc. of Tehran, has announced that it has doubled its manufacturing capacity to meet the extraordinary demand.


BBC Tehran correspondent Jon Leyne says that Ayatollah Khamenei appears to have staked everything on this election result and Mr Ahmadinejad.

It all points to heavy crackdowns if the protests continue, our correspondent says
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8108661.stm

Stay tooned to this channel for more on this story as it develops...

[Ima Nasshole]

General Striker Breaking News Alert!

SUPREME LEADER SIGNS OWN DEATH WARRANT

In a surprise announcement last night at Tehran University, Ayatollah Khamenei announced that he is sentencing himself to death by stoning. In the first hours after his announcement more than 1 million baseball sized green cobble stones were sold at rock stands throughout Tehran according to Ahmad Silikoni, CEO of Rocks R Us LLC in nearby Qom. Mr. Silikoni reported that the demand was so high that a shortage of projectiles has resulted. RRUs main supplier, Rock 'n Roll Novelties, Inc. of Tehran, has announced that it has doubled its manufacturing capacity to meet the extraordinary demand.


BBC Tehran correspondent Jon Leyne says that Ayatollah Khamenei appears to have staked everything on this election result and Mr Ahmadinejad.

It all points to heavy crackdowns if the protests continue, our correspondent says
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8108661.stm

Stay tooned to this channel for more on this story as it develops...

You want the truth with what's going on in Iran?

You need to go here, fuck the BBC! (http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/today.guest.html)

[boycotteverything]

Cairo speech, Cairo speech.. na na na na na nana

[boycotteverything]

Rush Limbaugh pontificates on the evils of America and its President!

http://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/g-cvr-090619-khamenei-speech-2a.grid-5x3.jpg
Mr. Limbaugh at the famous EIB microphone yesterday

[Ima Nasshole]

Cairo speech, Cairo speech.. na na na na na nana
A bipartisan bill is being introduced in the house today because it seems BHO is NOT following up on his speech. Like I said, a 30 minute reading of a telepromptor is not a revolution make.

Telepromptor, telepromptor, telepromptor.

The man will need a telepromptor to explain the birds and the bees to his daughter.

[boycotteverything]

i've been wondering- does it pain you to be such a dour putz? or you're just used to it? inquiring minds want to know.

[boycotteverything]

oh my! don't google it. here it is: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/dour

[Lexion]

Not taking sides here, but....

Who did Barry direct his first
speech to after being elected
to ?

He's been directing this for
quite a while.

Cairo was just a part of the
bigger picture.

Regards,
Lex

[boycotteverything]

yes, Lex. you nailed it. and the world has taken it to heart.

[pack3tg0st]

Why is it a bad thing that Obama uses a teleprompter?

The "teleprompter" bullshit is pure Republican rhetoric...

Its like you're copy/pasting political "talking points"...

(and a Rush Limbaugh link? I hope you were joking...)

[boycotteverything]

Why is it a bad thing that Obama uses a teleprompter?asshole's inference? 'what can you expect from an affirmative action negro?' hahahahaha!

[pack3tg0st]

Remember when bush strayed from the teleprompters early in his first term?

Absolute train wreck...

edit: Wait... are we allowed to talk about the NeoCon's Lord and Savior in a negative way?

[boycotteverything]

in six months the divisive 'axis of evil'-'islamofascist'-'terrorist' slime of the preceding eight years has been shit-canned. can that be a bad thing?

[pack3tg0st]

Ask Rush...

Apparently its the path to socialism or something...

http://www.appletreeblog.com/wp-content/2008/12/limbaugh-idiot.jpg

Funny shit is... the author of that book... Just got elected to the Senate ROTFLMAO

[boycotteverything]

yeah- and it's gonna cause our resident dour ditto head to have a stroke.

[Ima Nasshole]

Why is it a bad thing that Obama uses a teleprompter?

The "teleprompter" bullshit is pure Republican rhetoric...

Its like you're copy/pasting political "talking points"...

(and a Rush Limbaugh link? I hope you were joking...)
The use of a telepromptor for such a "great communicator" is weak at best. Historically speaking name one great communicator who leaned on one as much as this guy, and I'll show you a good actor! If he's that fucking good pack, why does he need one of those? He looks like a 6 o clock news talking head.

And the link? Yes, to everybody but Kim that's me poking fun, to Kim Rush Limbaugh is my telepromptor.

Have a good day fuckers, I've got a busy schedule today and have no time to baby sitting you far left, state sponsored press eating (CNN, NBC, MSNBC, ABC), Obama cock gobbling Neo-Libs. :lol:

[boycotteverything]

Have a good day fuckers...and we know that sentiment comes straight from your dark little heart. thanks Mr. Asshole!!

[pack3tg0st]

Seriously... since when has the ability to memorize speeches affected someone's ability to govern? I think you're reaching here dude...

Show me a president that used index cards instead of a teleprompter, and I'll show you a president who can't speak english (George W.)

If one of the problems you have with a political figure has nothing to do with their policies or actual ability to do their job, than Yes, you are falling for the rhetoric.

Teleprompter... please... you do realize that all the guys who talk about obama reading a teleprompter use one themselves... (except maybe rush... but he reads off paper... and rambles quite a bit).

If you're going to criticize someone, at least be intellectually honest about it... State policies, or governing actions that you dislike... your "issues" with the teleprompter are irrelevant to his ability to lead...

and before you go there... Trying to make an argument to say it is relevant, would be asinine and intellectual dishonesty at its best...

anyway here's this... an article that states your Messiah used one too!

[offsite=http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/03/06/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry4848259.shtml:3qs0oh6o]There’s one reason above all others that President Obama uses a teleprompter in delivering most of his speeches: he’s good at it.

Ronald Reagan was the same way. He was more at ease in reading his speech off the dual screens of a teleprompter than looking up and down at a speech text on his lectern[/offsite:3qs0oh6o]

Now I'm interested to know: how does Obama using a teleprompter relate to the propaganda piece I've been tracking?

edit: Wow... fixed pre-coffee grammar train wreck.

[skunk]

Ouch, he called y'all (maybe me too, who the fuck knows) neoliberals. That's pretty low, even for a neoconservative :).

[hp]

Isn't that the new way to say 'commie something or other'.

[pack3tg0st]

How can I be Liberal or Conservative when I am into Anarchy?

edit: Oh wait... Neocons think anyone who disagrees with them is a Liberal... nevermind!

[Ima Nasshole]

Seriously... since when has the ability to memorize speeches affected someone's ability to govern? I think you're reaching here dude...

Show me a president that used index cards instead of a teleprompter, and I'll show you a president who can't speak english (George W.)

If one of the problems you have with a political figure has nothing to do with their policies or actual ability to do their job, than Yes, you are falling for the rhetoric.

Teleprompter... please... you do realize that all the guys who talk about obama reading a teleprompter use one themselves... (except maybe rush... but he reads off paper... and rambles quite a bit).

If you're going to criticize someone, at least be intellectually honest about it... State policies, or governing actions that you dislike... your "issues" with the teleprompter are irrelevant to his ability to lead...

and before you go there... Trying to make an argument to say it is relevant, would be asinine and intellectual dishonesty at its best...

anyway here's this... an article that states your Messiah used one too!

[offsite=http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/03/06/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry4848259.shtml:dl83n491]There’s one reason above all others that President Obama uses a teleprompter in delivering most of his speeches: he’s good at it.

Ronald Reagan was the same way. He was more at ease in reading his speech off the dual screens of a teleprompter than looking up and down at a speech text on his lectern[/offsite:dl83n491]

Now I'm interested to know: how does Obama using a teleprompter relate to the propaganda piece I've been tracking?

edit: Wow... fixed pre-coffee grammar train wreck.

first meeting over and I had a second to respond, Pack... watch him when he doesn't have one and you see some stammering. The guy can't talk without one, which leads me to ask, if he doesn't know the content of the speech, then who does. Talking head, good communicator, watch him when he doesn't have one and you see the "real" great communicator. We are only as strong as our weakest link, that's why I am fixated on the telepromptor... I am being told he is a great communicator, but he isn't without a telempromptor. And yes I'm reaching, but trolling is much more fun this way.

The dark heart, oooooooo

[pack3tg0st]

You forget all the Town Hall meetings and debates...

He seemed to communicate perfectly well in all those scenarios without a teleprompter... He CAN communicate rather well... But somehow, the Neo-cons and right wing extremists have figured out a way to turn this myth of him not being able to speak into a meme... Its all propaganda...

Watch the debates... They are unscripted... The only person who has a teleprompter is the moderator...

Town hall meetings... he doesn't "pre-screen" the audience and their questions before hand like Bush used to do... and I have yet to see someone ejected from a town hall meeting... He answers questions... and he does all that without a teleprompter...

Memorizing a speech though... is friggan tough... especially when its got to be delivered a certain way to ensure the propaganda goes undetected...


The dark heart, oooooooo

Dick Cheney?! :shock: where?!?!

[Cogburn]

With all the bullshit that Obama has pulled in the past 130 days you decide to focus on teleprompters? Really?

Does that mean that everything else is just peachy and that there's no greater causes to trumpet?

Whoever is pushing such nonsense is equally guilty of obfuscating the real issues of our day as those who are alleged to be in the tank for Obama.

Next I guess we'll be in a lather over Obama swatting flies as opposed to expanding the powers of the Federal Reserve.

Oh... wait a minute....

[pack3tg0st]

Sums it up pretty well...

Draw parallels where you like...

I'm sure you'll get the message :P

i]_qQX-jayixQi]

[Ima Nasshole]

You know Cog, the speech was incredible, I wonder how many other people could have read the promptor with the same results?
And exactly what are the results?

Besides this promptor thing the last 130 days have been downright peachy, it's guys like you that don't want to give the guy a break. It's like BE says, he's steering a big ship... And isn't it just like the neo-libs to down play "promptor-gate" as the true evil while attempting to distract us with something as trivial as expanding the powers of the Federal Reserve and Treasury.

And Pack, every single "Town Hall Meeting" was exactly the fucking same from one town to another. And don't try telling me the crowds were all "Joe the plumbers", Obama's campaign planted shills that directed the flow of questions to the topics he was prepared to answer, so yes I guess you can say it was scripted.

like this one (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2009/06/15/shill-attendee-obamas-healthcare-townhall-audience-wheres-media-)

and this one (http://chasblogspot.blogspot.com/2009/03/president-obamas-fake-town-hall-meeting.html)

and this one (http://24ahead.com/some-questioners-obama-town-hall-were-plants-seiu-donors-etc)

Let's not forget about this one... (http://dad29.blogspot.com/2009/06/plant-at-obamas-green-bay-town-hall.html)

Barack who's sane? Obama, Telepromptor in Chief of the United States.

[Lexion]

He's a puppet.

Name a POTUS that wasn't.

Meh,
Lex

[Cogburn]

Dependence upon teleprompters is such a superficial point I'm having a hard time relating to your justification of it being a character flaw of any worth.

In my estimation, being a "great communicator" involves the conveyance of complex or unique thoughts in a manner that is most easily understood by the greatest number of people.

For what it's worth, last I checked it was Ronald Reagan that held the moniker of "The Great Communicator".

Does that mean Reagan wrote his speeches or didn't use index cards or teleprompters or was it that when he spoke, regardless of the context, it made sense to people?

Now if you'd like to talk about Obama's administration I'd love to see a major policy decision that didn't involve inflation of the national debt of anything less than $500 million.

[boycotteverything]

Now if you'd like to talk about Obama's administration I'd love to see a major policy decision an offering of peace to your 'islamofascists?' that's major, no?

[Cogburn]

Now if you'd like to talk about Obama's administration I'd love to see a major policy decision an offering of peace to your 'islamofascists?' that's major, no?
Create peace in Muslim lands where we're currently at war and we'll have a conversation.

Offering peace to ideological opponents is not peace, it's appeasement for one side or the other.

Why is such an "offering of peace" to Venezuela less important if that's the case? Because they are Catholic?

[GeneralStriker]

it's appeasement Limbaugh couldn't have said it better.

[pack3tg0st]

like this one (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2009/06/15/shill-attendee-obamas-healthcare-townhall-audience-wheres-media-)

and this one (http://chasblogspot.blogspot.com/2009/03/president-obamas-fake-town-hall-meeting.html)

and this one (http://24ahead.com/some-questioners-obama-town-hall-were-plants-seiu-donors-etc)

Let's not forget about this one... (http://dad29.blogspot.com/2009/06/plant-at-obamas-green-bay-town-hall.html)



http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/files/2008/09/thestupiditburns.jpg

You didn't seriously just link a bunch of Blogs as sources did you?

Come on Ima... You're better/smarter than that... I know you are...

[GeneralStriker]

Come on Ima... You're better/smarter than that... I know you are...This ditto-head is neither 'better nor smarter' than his god.

[boycotteverything]

as in 1968- 'the whole world is watching!'

[mojo]

as in 1968- 'the whole world is watching!'

not in australia......were going to the pub.
we'll come out and take over after the rest of you maniacs go bankrupt or blow yourselves up.

[Ima Nasshole]

Now if you'd like to talk about Obama's administration I'd love to see a major policy decision that didn't involve inflation of the national debt of anything less than $500 million.
If you consider executing flys a major policy change we may have found something slightly less than $500 million. Unless of course he didn't pay $500 million for an official presidential flyswatter.

And pack, I was being a Troll, I have no idea what the fuck I posted... I may have even posted the same thing 3 different times. Sometimes whipping you wankers around can be way more fun than the work on my desk, sorry.

And Lala said I missed an asshole party today, did you guys have cake?

[pack3tg0st]

And Lala said I missed an asshole party today, did you guys have cake?

Just fudge...

tasted like shit though

[Alessandra]

And Lala said I missed an asshole party today, did you guys have cake?

Just fudge...

tasted like shit though


I lol'd