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pack3tg0st
06-17-2009, 02:17 PM
Obama is set to give a speech on banking and financial reform this afternoon at 13:00 EST.

[offsite=http://money.cnn.com/2009/06/17/news/economy/regulatory_reform/index.htm?postversion=2009061712:1c6ry8o0]President Obama plans to expand the powers of the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department.

Obama will call for the creation of a council of regulators chaired by the Treasury secretary to work alongside the Fed to monitor system-wide risk.

In his speech, Obama is expected to say that regulators were charged with "seeing the trees, not the forest."

"As a result, the failure of one large firm threatened the viability of many others; the effect multiplied," Obama is expected to say. "There was no system in place that was prepared for this kind of outcome. And more importantly, no on has been charged with preventing it."[/offsite:1c6ry8o0]

Now, when I read that, I remember the USA Patriot act... something that was designed to help us thwart terrorism, but in the end was used and abused to circumnavigate constitutional rights...

Thus, its important to view how this system could be abused in the future...

To me, this screams that the government is allowed to meddle in the affairs of private business in the name of "preventing economic disaster". Seems like a good idea on the surface, but this power given to the Fed and Treasury department will most likely be used in the future to steer large companies in the directions that the government sees fit. They will have to obey the FED... if they don't, they will simply be labeled a risk to the system, and the government will seize their company...

I don't know if this is the feeling anyone else gets... and maybe i'm gun-shy from the USA Patriot Act... but this whole idea wreaks of bullshit...

Most people don't realize that the Fed is not a government agency... The Federal Reserve is controlled by wealthy elite and members of the Banking cartels... We are now making it okay and legal for a private corporation to control other private corporations. In the event they don't want to be controlled, they will be compelled to comply by the U.S. Government...

This is like letting Microsoft police the software industry... What the fuck?

Ima Nasshole
06-17-2009, 02:43 PM
Exactly, what the fuck?

Including the President and the Supreme Court, there are only 545 of these fucks in Washington D.C. and they are solely responsible for the direction this country is taking. These 545 control 300,000,000+ in this country and now the Telepromptor in Chief seeks to usurp the constitution by giving the Federal Reserve powers of intervention and direction. Forgive me for asking, but under this expanded role by the Fed, what becomes of Common stock voting rights?

What the fuck is going on with this country?

boycotteverything
06-17-2009, 03:12 PM
Posted this on a different thread but it belongs here too-


I don't have any answers to that, Mur. I just have a sense that the house of cards is tumbling- Humpty Dumpty had a great fall- and that a kind man ought to be there to pick up the pieces while he wades through the goo. I'm confident we have that. Will it be enough? Nah. 'Enough' is a moving target. Just relax. At the very least we have a ticket to the last act of this sound and fury show. Just think about all those poor saps that checked out during the intermission...

Alessandra
06-17-2009, 03:46 PM
I say follow Iran's lead. And by that, I mean, millions of us stand up, and tell the fed to go fuck itself.

pack3tg0st
06-17-2009, 07:26 PM
Whoa Chii hehe

I'm 100% on your boat... but lets try to fix it within the system first...

It will fail... but at least we can say we tried...

Then we can start designing Flags :P

Cogburn
06-17-2009, 07:41 PM
How nefarious this is all depends on exactly what powers this new "regulatory council" is afforded.

The scary shit is in the "regulatory" bit. Regulate what, exactly? All these banks were playing by the rules at the time....

pack3tg0st
06-17-2009, 07:43 PM
warm fuzzies cogburn... its just warm fuzzies...

Meanwhile... anyone know how to sew a flag?

Cheezit
06-17-2009, 08:13 PM
but lets try to fix it within the system first...

Sorry, but i don't think that will work.
Especially when everythings controlled by "Them".

pack3tg0st
06-17-2009, 08:14 PM
Right... we know it won't work...

But at least if we tried, we could say "meh, we tried!"

Exhaust legal methods before illegal methods... and peaceful before violent...

Cheezit
06-17-2009, 08:34 PM
I know what you mean Pack, i just think; for the most part, it will be a waste.
Though, one good first action may be to change the name of the Federal Reserve and get rid of the Federal part.
People see federal and they think it's true government.

I know one thing, if billions of dollars is continued to be throw out left and right to big companys and no progress is made; and we've seen a lot of that, the people of this country will no longer tolerate it.
And the US will be like Iran is now with tons of people out on the streets.
Some question wether or not people in ths country still have a willingness to fight.
I believe the people do have a limit, a breaking point.
We just haven't reached it yet; though, we're on our way.

skunk
06-17-2009, 09:11 PM
Did you mean the patriot act 3?

Patriot Act II already came out (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_Reform_and_Terrorism_Prevention_Act_o f_2004).

Alessandra
06-17-2009, 09:32 PM
Im not sure I like that hot pink.

pack3tg0st
06-17-2009, 09:35 PM
Thats red chii lol

its just a normal flag with the white stripes turned black...

migth wanna adjust your monitor colors :P

screen gamma?

Alessandra
06-17-2009, 09:40 PM
ITS TOTALLY HOT PINK

pack3tg0st
06-17-2009, 09:51 PM
LOL its just this picture... with white colored in red...

Does it look pink here?

pack3tg0st
06-17-2009, 10:30 PM
Did you mean the patriot act 3?

Patriot Act II already came out (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_Reform_and_Terrorism_Prevention_Act_o f_2004).

Fuck, I fall asleep for five mins in 2004 and they pass another fuckin act?

assholes...

skunk
06-17-2009, 10:45 PM
You should know better than to sleep. There's only 24 hours in a day, best not to waste any time on it.

:P

pack3tg0st
06-17-2009, 10:58 PM
http://www.woolworths.co.nz/ImageServer/product_images/big/9313501144243.jpg

*crush*

*snort*

LETS FUCKIN ROCK!

http://media.buzzhumor.com/7/Blood_Shot_Eyes7973aa.jpg

Alessandra
06-18-2009, 12:23 AM
omfg XD