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skunk
06-11-2009, 07:08 PM
Myth Busted (http://www.opposingviews.com/articles/news-myth-busted-tough-marijuana-laws-don-t-reduce-use-r-1244745209)

Well no fucking shit. At least somebody is telling the truth these days. Legal or not, people are going to use substances to treat medical conditions, connect to "god", have visions, or just to feel good. Totalitarian laws will never stop people's experimentation with "bad" substances. In fact, drug use is probably higher because there's such a stigma involved with using any mind altering substances, unless of course its alcohol, tobacco, or any form of pills. The double standard is ridiculous.

The federal Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration recently released its annual state-by-state breakdown of drug use rates from the National Survey on Drug Use and Health (http://oas.samhsa.gov/2k7state/TOC.htm). And once again, the data (based on the 2006 and 2007 surveys) don’t match the official mythology — namely, that tough anti-marijuana laws reduce marijuana use (http://www.opposingviews.com/questions/should-the-us-legalize-marijuana).

As of the survey dates, 11 states had decriminalized possession of small amounts of marijuana, while 39 retained the threat of arrest and jail for even small-time marijuana possession. And, like previous surveys, use rates in the decriminalized states were statistically indistinguishable from the non-decriminalized states. Some decriminalized states, such as Nebraska and Mississippi, had use rates well below the national average. And some that maintain criminal penalties, such as New Hampshire and the District of Columbia, were well above the national average.

Sometimes decriminalized states had lower marijuana use rates than neighboring states that still jail marijuana users. Mississippi, for example, was lower than Louisiana; Nebraska was lower than Kansas.

This trend has been consistent in the nearly a decade that SAMHSA has been doing these state breakdowns, yet it didn’t stop decriminalization opponents in Massachusetts from claiming last year that decriminalization would somehow ]turn their state into a sea of potheads (http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v08/n963/a08.html?1233).

I'd be more worried about a nation full of drunks and pill poppers who do infinitely more harm than nonviolent stoners...

The other persistent myth is that medical marijuana laws increase teen marijuana use (http://www.opposingviews.com/questions/should-medical-marijuana-be-federally-legalized) by “sending the wrong message to kids (http://www.opposingviews.com/tags/kids).”

Teenagers wouldn't be chugging alcohol on the weekends or in college if we developed a healthy respect for drinking. However, since we're a species of fucktards, that shit will never happen.

Its fun to do something illegal. Some people probably wouldn't even smoke or drink alcohol underage if it wasn't a crime. There's some element of danger involved in using an illicit substance. Take the fun out, and there'd be less adrenaline-fueld users.

Again, the real-world trend doesn’t quite match the myth. Year-to-year changes in past-month marijuana use for 12-to-17-year-olds were almost all statistically insignificant. A few medical marijuana states showed increases while others showed drops, but none of the changes were large enough to be proof of a real trend. And state-based surveys, which have much larger samples within each state and thus are far more reliable, have consistently shown teen marijuana use decreasing in medical marijuana states since the laws took effect. (http://www.mpp.org/research/teen-use-report.html)

Wouldn’t it be nice if legislators everywhere could be persuaded to base laws on facts instead of myths?

Lexion
06-11-2009, 07:17 PM
You nailed it.

If it were legalized, I'd
still not smoke. I got
over it, a long time ago.

In a social setting, I may
take a hit off a pass, but
I have no desire for daily
use.

And the stigma of doing
something "naughty" DOES
influence teens to do it;
I agree 100%.

Regards,
Lex

theeindiee
06-11-2009, 07:25 PM
Aten on the last part, Lex.

Smoking weed, however... is great.

Ducky
06-11-2009, 07:32 PM
Some people develop their own little relationships with it:

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lala
06-11-2009, 09:01 PM
Tough law just raise prices . . . in the end harder drugs are cheaper and easier to obtain, they just tansfer frist time triers straight to them . . .or its glue, petrol, any pills, "p" usually the cheap home baked crap . . . . its always going to happen most have a go at sometime, at least pot the safest imo . . . . :)

boycotteverything
06-11-2009, 10:56 PM
most potheads that i know gave it up when piss tests threatened their livelihoods. so i'd have to believe that enforcement does indeed reduce use.

skunk
06-11-2009, 11:23 PM
Actually your argument implies drug testing reduces use, due to employment. Not the same thing. Coke is out of people's systems in 48 hours even though its known to kill people. Drug testing really works to stop people from using harmful drugs.

boycotteverything
06-11-2009, 11:30 PM
Actually your argument implies drug testing reduces use, due to employment.Exactly what I'm implying. I've watched a lot of good workers get the ax for failing random piss tests. The most common finding? Pot.

lala
06-11-2009, 11:38 PM
Actually your argument implies drug testing reduces use, due to employment. Not the same thing. Coke is out of people's systems in 48 hours even though its known to kill people. Drug testing really works to stop people from using harmful drugs.


Most harmful drugs are out of your system with in 24- 48 hours . . . pot take 3 months . . . do the math . . . you try speeding all weekend see how many days before you come right, but by monday no trace left . . . . have a joint and you risk 6-12 weeks before your system clean . . . and how long before you come right few hours!!!! :smokin:

boycotteverything
06-12-2009, 12:04 AM
The problem is with insurance companies. In my field, construction, they're the ones that require the random testing as a condition of continued coverage. They think some stoned carpenter might cut his fingers off with a circular saw. (They may be right!) And, yes- the shit does stay in your system for months. So... if you wanna keep working you either stop smoking dope, take a chance on cheating the cup or find a new line of work.

WarlordZeroOne
06-12-2009, 06:29 AM
I used to love smoking a few joints at week-ends play-time,but take a look, random testing its all becoming to much NANNY state,we are being cornered at evey turn,one more thing i read an article that 800 skunk plants on a skunk farm Produces £1,000,000 from the street, now the mentality of the growers is smart,it makes no difference if we lose a crop or 2 to the cops because there is so much money in it,i can,t blame the growers its get rich quick if you don't get caught.