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Alessandra
05-29-2009, 05:22 PM
I thought this was the funniest shit I've read in quite awhile...

http://www.cracked.com/blog/what-if-kanye-west-is-retarded/

GhostOfCaptSpaulding
05-29-2009, 05:40 PM
A) Who da fuck Kanye West?

Dateline: Five years from now.

Q) Whatever happened to Kanye West?

skunk
05-29-2009, 06:09 PM
I heard he was a gay fish.

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Cogburn
05-29-2009, 06:55 PM
I'll hafta work up a post on this, but there is an ideological war going on behind the scenes in the hip-hop industry that seems to be NWO/Illuminati related.

Some industry folks, such as Nas, Pharo, and The Prodigy, have been saying for years that Jay-Z (and by extension his protege Kanye West) is working for the Illuminati to help foster their beliefs in the black community.

Both Jay-Z and Kanye spent a good portion of their youth in nuwaubianism communes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuwaubianism

Prodigy has been publishing hand written letters from jail highlighting how it all fits together.

http://fastactionnews.com/prodigy-from-mobb-deep-speaks-out-from-prison-against-the-illuminati-and-jay-z
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http://fastactionnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/page5.jpg

pHvRHmrBEOU

Something seems to be afoot with the "CEO of Hip-Hop" and his ilk.

Lexion
05-29-2009, 07:06 PM
For those not "hip",
HNIC =
Head Nigga In Charge

Regards,
Lex

Cogburn
05-29-2009, 07:10 PM
Request a mod move this to NWO/Secret Societies.... I'd like to have this around in the right section in case I or someone else gets a whim for more research.

skunk
05-29-2009, 07:45 PM
Immortal Technique is an underground rapper who is against the illuminati, along with Pharaoh Monche and Akir (possibly Mos Def as well). I didn't know about Prodigy until you mentioned him though cog.

Nas seems to have sided with HOVA and Kanye though.

skunk
05-29-2009, 07:48 PM
This song more or less references what I'm talking about:

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And you can't fathom the truth, so you don't hear me
You think illuminati's just a fuckin conspiracy theory?
That's why Conservative racists are all runnin' shit
And your phone is tapped by the Federal Government

Immortal Technique - Cause of Death

Cogburn
05-29-2009, 08:11 PM
The thing that's fascinated me about the entire deal is the way and the angle by which folks like Prodigy were introduced to the Illuminati conspiracy concept. The fact that it doesn't easily dovetail into existing "mainstream" Illuminati research is notable.

Using Prodigy and his crew's angle on things, RCA/BMG seems to be the prime Illuminati influence over the recording industry. I've done some research into RCA Records/Sony-BMG which I also need to formalize. People and dates where RCA current and ex-exec's played pivotal roles in spearheading several deals that seemed minor at the time but turned out to restructure the record industry, including such wonders as the formation of the RIAA in the 50s and parental advisory labeling in the 80s (via the RIAA, mind you).

Looking at the past 50 years of the music industry from a conspiracy mindset, especially with a focus on the past 20 years, reveals a surprising amount of interconnectivity and incestuous relationships.

Through simple internet research you can trace the exact people who moved between organizations and served on various regulatory boards.

It's almost as if the disciples of Dr. York didn't even feel a need to cover their tracks...

EDIT: Thanks for moving the thread...

Watcher-In-The-Shadows
05-30-2009, 11:45 AM
Oh, puhlease.
Kanye West is just another spotlight chaser aping and doing whatever he can to get himself in the spotlight for a few more minutes.
And if those other guys are anything like him....
Well, you can guess.

And this crap does seem to be a extention of "the whiteman out to get me" syndrome.

FancyFree
05-30-2009, 12:29 PM
That was hillarious!!!! I can't stand kanye and that hit the nail on the head perfectly, i thought. Good find!!! :)

skunk
05-30-2009, 02:02 PM
Wraith, I love how you always come across like you know everything. I don't think anyone else here is like that aside from be and his occasional bouts of psychosis.

Watcher-In-The-Shadows
05-30-2009, 02:45 PM
Or perhaps it's all in your head.
Especially seeing as to how often we don't see eye to eye..........
Some people after all don't know how to accept differences and so must find things to insult about those they view as rivals.
Never claimed I knew everything, and nor would I.

Otherwords, fuck you and should I expect BE like activity from you now as well?

Bitchkoma
05-30-2009, 03:37 PM
Also, sometimes people more or less agree with you, but you don't appear to notice it or you totally misinterpreted the response. It's happened a couple of time between you and I. No matter, it was mostly trivial and insignificant shit, like this Book of Kanye-isms.

Watcher-In-The-Shadows
05-30-2009, 03:38 PM
*blinks*
So he wasn't calling me a know-it-all?
If he wasn't I guess I should feel stupid.
If that's the case I apologise.

Bitchkoma
05-30-2009, 03:41 PM
Also, you appear to enjoy getting into side arguments.

theeindiee
05-30-2009, 03:42 PM
Settle down Wraith. I understand you. All this Illuminati and Nuwaubianism and all other isms, no matter how real the belief system may be and no matter how much it may be influencing things behind the scenes.... it's bullshit.

If David Rockafeller and a bunch of assholes, including Jay-Z, come knocking at my door for some reason and proclaim to me "We are the Illuminati!"

My response would be "No you're not." and slam the door in their faces.

I don't like really poking fun at people who don't deserve it, but when someone like Kanye throws himself on the fucking bullseye and someone nails it square in the center, I can't help but piss my pants with laughter because he asked for it! That was THE funniest thing I've read in a long time!

I also read the wiki thing about Nuwaubianism, and that reminds me a lot of the Urantia hippie cults that are starting to infect organic farming communities. Dude, preying on lost alienated souls is not cool. Fuck that York guy. Fuck Gabriel of Uraintia. Fuck L. Ron Hubbard. York is just a Racist violent deceiving asshole with a messiah complex. Does it even matter to his followers that he ADMITTED to molesting children?!?! Does Kanye/Afrika/Jay-Z/whoever really feel that alienated that they need to believe a child molester in order to feel secure?

Watcher-In-The-Shadows
05-30-2009, 03:42 PM
BK, have you or have you not noticed I go off on tangents fairly often? Whether or not it's an argument.

And we are in agreement Indiee.

Bitchkoma
05-30-2009, 03:44 PM
That's why you fit right in here. We all go off into tangents. What was the topic again?

Watcher-In-The-Shadows
05-30-2009, 03:56 PM
LoL! :lol:

The assclown Kanye West and his newest attention grabbing ploy?

theeindiee
05-30-2009, 04:12 PM
I usually don't believe what I read.... but many of those York quotes from Wiki are THEE most diluted fantastically racist and hateful pieces of garbage posing as truth which I've read in quite a while. Yes, us whites steal black people's blood in order to preserve our organs better! I admitted it!

boycotteverything
05-30-2009, 04:13 PM
That's why you fit right in here. We all go off into tangents. What was the topic again?i think it had to do with the first smart thing the Wrat has ever said here. but correct me if i'm wrong

I guess I should feel stupid.

Watcher-In-The-Shadows
05-30-2009, 04:17 PM
BE shut the fuck up fuckwit.
If someone wanted to read your idiotic intentional misintrepretations of cut and dry conversations they'd have pulled your string.
So, when is the next pussyache childish cryfest and declaration of leaving BE?
So I can have something to look forward to.

boycotteverything
05-30-2009, 04:18 PM
. Yes, us whites steal black people's blood in order to preserve our organs better! I admitted it!fuckit, Indy. don't feel bad. we all do it.

boycotteverything
05-30-2009, 04:19 PM
So, when is the next pussyache childish cryfest and declaration of leaving BE?right now! i fucking quit!

Watcher-In-The-Shadows
05-30-2009, 04:19 PM
Yes, us whites steal black people's blood in order to preserve our organs better! I admitted it!

LoL!
:lol:
Just don't tell them about how we hide under black children's bed in attempt to pull them under and eat them, indiee.
Crap I just did.
:lol:
Racism = stupid

Watcher-In-The-Shadows
05-30-2009, 04:20 PM
So, when is the next pussyache childish cryfest and declaration of leaving BE?right now! i fucking quit!

I can dream.

Cogburn
05-30-2009, 04:20 PM
I usually don't believe what I read.... but many of those York quotes from Wiki are THEE most diluted fantastically racist and hateful pieces of garbage posing as truth which I've read in quite a while. Yes, us whites steal black people's blood in order to preserve our organs better! I admitted it!
It's exactly that kind of "Jesus Camp" mentality that makes world-girdling conspiracies nearly self-fulfilling prophecies.

boycotteverything
05-30-2009, 04:21 PM
shit. i got banned from jesus camp.

Watcher-In-The-Shadows
05-30-2009, 04:21 PM
I usually don't believe what I read.... but many of those York quotes from Wiki are THEE most diluted fantastically racist and hateful pieces of garbage posing as truth which I've read in quite a while. Yes, us whites steal black people's blood in order to preserve our organs better! I admitted it!
It's exactly that kind of "Jesus Camp" mentality that makes world-girdling conspiracies nearly self-fulfilling prophecies.

How is that a "Jesus Camp" mentality?
Splain please?

boycotteverything
05-30-2009, 04:23 PM
does anyone remember what this thread was about?

Cogburn
05-30-2009, 04:52 PM
I usually don't believe what I read.... but many of those York quotes from Wiki are THEE most diluted fantastically racist and hateful pieces of garbage posing as truth which I've read in quite a while. Yes, us whites steal black people's blood in order to preserve our organs better! I admitted it!
It's exactly that kind of "Jesus Camp" mentality that makes world-girdling conspiracies nearly self-fulfilling prophecies.

How is that a "Jesus Camp" mentality?
Splain please?
The movie "Jesus Camp" was about the evangelical protestant right in the United States.

The woman who runs the particular camp in the movie states her reason for starting such camps was because the Muslims were radicalizing their children, so she sees it as her calling to radicalize Christian children for their god, too.

It's worth noting that the folks who are filmed in the movie were allowed to screen it prior to its release. It is, in their minds, an accurate representation of their philosophy.

Nuwabianism should serve as a reminder that such mentalities are not unique to recent times, nor are they consigned to just religious beliefs.

Evangelical Protestantism, Islam, Nuwabianism, the Klan, Mormonism, Sovereigns...

They're all the same. Ideologies of hate based on a skewed view of reality that are supported only in the perversion of the minds of the young.

... and if you dig around deep enough you'll find that each of the groups mentioned above was long-since infiltrated by the CIA, Mossad, MI6 or all of the above before they became "radicalized". When did this infiltration occur? During the 40s, 50s, and 60s.

Problem - Reaction - Solution.... decades before you or I were even born.

Don't take my word for it. Look it up yourself. This shit is old news... but you'll note that modern mainstream conspiracy theory always seems to leave out the important bits of information that 20 years ago used to be "mainstream conspiracy theory".

Watcher-In-The-Shadows
05-30-2009, 04:56 PM
Oh, I misunderstood exactly what you were saying.
I know the film.
I am not so sure it proves CTs though as extremism often has it's place in human nature.
We often polarize and split then start fighting.

boycotteverything
05-30-2009, 04:57 PM
Evangelical Protestantism, Islam, Nuwabianism, the Klan, Mormonism, Sovereigns... Fuck! Even Baba Ram Das??

boycotteverything
05-30-2009, 05:00 PM
extremism often has it's place in human nature.
We often polarize and split then start fighting.the very definition of erudition! thank you, Dr. Rat.

Cogburn
05-30-2009, 05:08 PM
Oh, I misunderstood exactly what you were saying.
I know the film.
I am not so sure it proves CTs though as extremism often has it's place in human nature.
We often polarize and split then start fighting.
... creating conspiracy in their wake to explain the inherent inequities around them.

Conspiracies exist. Adam Weishaupt was a real person who really did create the AISB. The P2 Lodge really did set policy for the entire country of Italy. The Bildeberger Group really does meet and discuss spiraling global population.

But it's when you start to get to origins of all of these groups mentioned in this thread is when you start to really ask yourself "Who made who?"

Answer that and the riddle is solved and all conspiracy websites can shut down tomorrow.

boycotteverything
05-30-2009, 05:14 PM
Adam Weishaupt was a real personisn't he the founder of NAMBLA? or was that Alan Ginsberg? My mind is foggy. that shit is for you and me... hahahaha

Watcher-In-The-Shadows
05-30-2009, 05:30 PM
... creating conspiracy in their wake to explain the inherent inequities around them.

Conspiracies exist. Adam Weishaupt was a real person who really did create the AISB. The P2 Lodge really did set policy for the entire country of Italy. The Bildeberger Group really does meet and discuss spiraling global population.

But it's when you start to get to origins of all of these groups mentioned in this thread is when you start to really ask yourself "Who made who?"

Answer that and the riddle is solved and all conspiracy websites can shut down tomorrow.

I call it human nature run amok. His capacity to create problems and to then disavow himself of any blame.
Socitial problems are after all the fault of every member of said society after all.
It's easier to pick a target and blame that one though.
You can see larger design in simular activities and you could be right but until tangable proof is shown I will continue to disagree.
Blaming all of lifes woes on something is something we seem to love to do. In this case it's a shadowy council of men.
But at it's heart it's a key component of that process known as "scapegoating", which brought us such lovely lunacy as the witch trials.

And I doubt conspiracy sites would shut down regardless, there is always room for a doubt and it is an industry based off of feeding off that room for a doubt.

Cogburn
05-30-2009, 05:40 PM
You can see larger design in simular activities and you could be right but until tangable proof is shown I will continue to disagree.
Are you asking for a connection between the AISB, P2 and Bilderberger?

P2 and Bilderberger have membership in common. Done.

If you're looking for a straight line between the AISB and the P2 Lodge it would be some pretty lengthy research, but I'd be willing to place a real bet that you could do it.

... but assuming that to be true, then the argument would next become "you can prove membership and interpersonal linkages, but you cannot prove any real conspiracy between them".

So let's cut to the chase then and ask the real question.... what proof is suitable?

Watcher-In-The-Shadows
05-30-2009, 05:45 PM
How about we next figure out the rank and title of the courtisans of the Faery King's Court?
Do you have a sketch?
It aint true without a sketch. :P
Sorry can't help myself.
I am not making fun of you, just being silly.

But in all seriousness, where's the proof?
And I am not talking conspiracy websites that almost always trying to sell you a book or something else but unbiased proof.

boycotteverything
05-30-2009, 05:48 PM
what proof is suitable?certainly you've presented none. it's all bullshit. if it's true that one becomes what one resists then your're devolving into a Wrat.

Cogburn
05-30-2009, 05:56 PM
what proof is suitable?certainly you've present none. it's all bullshit. if it's true that one becomes what one resists then your devolving into a Wrat.
More laziness.

Do you not know Silvio Berlusconi?

boycotteverything
05-30-2009, 05:58 PM
i did his hair transplants.

Cogburn
05-30-2009, 06:02 PM
How about we next figure out the rank and title of the courtisans of the Faery King's Court?
Do you have a sketch?
It aint true without a sketch. :P
Sorry can't help myself.
I am not making fun of you, just being silly.

But in all seriousness, where's the proof?
And I am not talking conspiracy websites that almost always trying to sell you a book or something else but unbiased proof.
See the above regarding Silvio Berlusconi.

I won't spam links at you because it could be selective reporting of the facts. Research that man, who he is, the things he has done and the organizations he has been and is currently a member of.

There are certain people on the world stage that are the physical manifestation of conspiracy, even in the face of the law.

The only thing left to deny is your unwillingness to accept the fact that there are indeed individuals that are determined to rule and control as large a portion of humanity as possible.

It's been true since the dawn of time, what exactly makes you think we're so enlightened at this period of time to escape Shakespeare and Virgil?

Kacen
05-30-2009, 07:15 PM
Immortal Technique is an underground rapper who is against the illuminati, along with Pharaoh Monche and Akir (possibly Mos Def as well). I didn't know about Prodigy until you mentioned him though cog.

Nas seems to have sided with HOVA and Kanye though.
He's against a group that doesn't exist anymore? Cute.

skunk
05-30-2009, 08:29 PM
*blinks*
So he wasn't calling me a know-it-all?
If he wasn't I guess I should feel stupid.
If that's the case I apologise.

I don't think you're a know it all wraith. I happen to enjoy reading your posts for the most part (read- I agree with you). Sometimes you need to not take things too personal or seriously however.


Does Kanye/Afrika/Jay-Z/whoever really feel that alienated that they need to believe a child molester in order to feel secure?

The fact they take a child molester seriously should be of more concern than their membership in secret societies in my opinion. However, if you want to get really paranoid, its all part of the game...

I like this point cog:


But it's when you start to get to origins of all of these groups mentioned in this thread is when you start to really ask yourself "Who made who?"


And this:


The only thing left to deny is your unwillingness to accept the fact that there are indeed individuals that are determined to rule and control as large a portion of humanity as possible.

Kacen et all: Call "them" what you will, but no word describes "them" quite the same as illuminati- whether the official organization still exists is irrelevant.

Cogburn
05-30-2009, 08:55 PM
Kacen et all: Call "them" what you will, but no word describes "them" quite the same as illuminati- whether the official organization still exists is irrelevant.
It's not the Illuminati, because if you research what they were about and what they did 235 years ago and then compare that to events that have been attributed to them in more recent times, it simply does not add up. The perpetrators of conspiracy in our modern age have merely successfully re-branded the Illuminati as the bad guy. History is written by the victors and Dan Brown and Fritz Springmeier are their authors of choice.

"It" has no name... or any name we would recognize. "It" is more than a secret society or religion or mystery school. "It" is a collection of individuals granted station by providence and united in a single-mindedness to rule and control.

Many have seen fit to elevate such a conflict to a spiritual level and ascribe spiritual components to these ruling elite. Still others have ascribed even other-worldly entities behind the elite themselves.

After a while it no longer matters, in my never humble opinion.

Once you have ascended the mountain so that you may observe the whole of the Earth for what it is, why lies at the summit is merely a footnote.

Kacen
05-30-2009, 09:00 PM
Kacen et all: Call "them" what you will, but no word describes "them" quite the same as illuminati- whether the official organization still exists is irrelevant.
Considering the original Bavarian Illuminati was simply a group of people who fought the Catholic church for secularism, I don't even see how the name could even be used for a group trying to rule the world. It's not fitting, since the Bavarian Illuminati's goals were not to rule the world. Hell, seeing as how you hate religion, I'd wonder why you wouldn't have sympathized with the Bavarian Illuminati's goals.

Use New World Order if you must, but Illuminati has nothing to do with it.

Though even then, the closest thing to a New World Order that isn't some delusional conspiracy theory based on pure conjecture is the U.N., and they're just a bunch of bumbling idiots.

skunk
05-30-2009, 10:38 PM
I'll concede the group known as the illuminati, founded by Adam Weishaupt, is not the same organization as what I am referring to. I wouldn't even call it an organization per say as that would imply the goals are shared among everyone and there exists a shadowy group controlling world affairs. I called them illuminati for sake of ease, not necessarily for accuracy. My bad.

:pound:

guinnessford
05-30-2009, 11:47 PM
I would assume we are talking about "TPTB" in ANY quest to do ANYTHING against the good, and betterment of society as a whole.

Wraith, Ive decided that it would be extremely hard for anyone here to give proof adequate for you to change your mind, and I respect the fact that you have made your mind up, and stick by your decision.

So you beleive absolutely nothing is wrong, no corruption, no insider shit, and everythings peachy fine.

Great, lemme know where you live cuz I would love to be in the town that youre in.

Is it that, or do you know that this world is full of nasty people in power, holding doom and gloom over our heads, waiting to take whats left of the wealth we have?

Or do you actually work for people that have those goals?

1.- you are blissfull, and have no clue
2.-you understand whats going on, and dont care
3.- youre part of the problem
4.-all the people in the world, held by a belief that there is a group of people abusing power for a long time, are ALL WRONG

Would you care to enlighten me?

And no, its not anger, or me being a dick, its me trying to understand what youre thinking.

guinnessford
05-30-2009, 11:51 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot... Tupac was in that crowd with "the Don Killuminati"

I didnt get much into it, but I remember some of his conversations about politics, but I wasnt into his music.

That, and I wasnt as awake as now, either.

Eyeforalie
05-30-2009, 11:53 PM
r]KIzIOt4KwHcr]
Well...I suppose its time to post this.

I guess as a hip-hop connoisseur, this was kind of known to me for a long time. Its pretty evident that talent doesnt get anywhere in pop music. It seems like in the last 8 years mainstream hip hop has taken a extremely frivolous downturn. The pop shit makes me puke...But there is a fast-rising underground movement that is in the know about all this shit.

guinnessford
05-30-2009, 11:55 PM
Eye, I have begun to like more and more of it, and yes... the made for t.v. shit sucks.

And I liked that

mojo
05-31-2009, 12:00 AM
Who's Kanye?
And who say's he isnt retarded?

guinnessford
05-31-2009, 12:06 AM
He may very well be.

Hes a rap/ r&b artist.

Whatever it is.

I dont think youd like it, Mojo but you cant try... just be careful it rubs off

Cogburn
05-31-2009, 12:09 AM
This was meant for a PM, but my response was more suited for public.

Most folks use the term "Illuminati" to refer to whatever cabal of white people are attempting to usurp individual freedom. It's a common mistake and therein lies the rub.

Words have power. Nigger = Black = Bad... It's not all without foundations in Freud.

New World Order doesn't fit because it's not "new" and it certainly doesn't encompass the whole world, though it may aim to do so. More groupthink.

It needs a new name.

mojo
05-31-2009, 12:11 AM
Eye, I have begun to like more and more of it, and yes... the made for t.v. shit sucks.

And I liked that

i like 1 hip hop band, thats it, local boy's the "Hilltop Hoods". The rest of the MS stuff is regurgitated crap.

s]LFCWHshsw_Ms]

guinnessford
05-31-2009, 12:14 AM
Agreed.

The powers that be is what I have called the group that may, or may not exist.

It kept things from escalating onto little "prove this, and prove that, and he never founded it for that" bullshit wars.

Or fuckin click and paste wars.

I could find articles that say the freakin sky is purple, and link to them.

If your mind is set that its green, its staying that way no matter how many links i staple to your forehead.

I havent been around the "C.T." sites long, but Ive picked up on all the patterns fairly quickly.

guinnessford
05-31-2009, 12:15 AM
Thats pretty good, Mojo.

Kinda like the Kottonmouth Kings.

skunk
05-31-2009, 01:11 AM
Kanye is still a gay fish. No one has proved otherwise.

Eyeforalie
05-31-2009, 02:45 AM
"doctor, do I have gills?"

Bitchkoma
05-31-2009, 02:49 AM
New World Order doesn't fit because it's not "new" and it certainly doesn't encompass the whole world, though it may aim to do so. More groupthink.

It needs a new name.

Or you can take an old but under-used name -- Dajjal.

Alessandra
05-31-2009, 03:08 AM
Kanye is still a gay fish. No one has proved otherwise.

no, he's a gay retarded fish.

Cogburn
05-31-2009, 04:00 AM
New World Order doesn't fit because it's not "new" and it certainly doesn't encompass the whole world, though it may aim to do so. More groupthink.

It needs a new name.

Or you can take an old but under-used name -- Dajjal.
Isn't that the advent of the antichrist in the Muslim faith?

Kacen
05-31-2009, 05:03 AM
I'll concede the group known as the illuminati, founded by Adam Weishaupt, is not the same organization as what I am referring to. I wouldn't even call it an organization per say as that would imply the goals are shared among everyone and there exists a shadowy group controlling world affairs. I called them illuminati for sake of ease, not necessarily for accuracy. My bad.

:pound:
Might as well call them Jamaica or something, because it has as much relevance.

The purported goals of this "shadowy group" that most conspiracy theorists talk about are nothing like the goals of the Bavarian Illuminati. So it makes me wonder how that name got latched onto it.

Add the fact that this shadowy group probably doesn't even exist...makes this whole situation even dumber.

Kacen
05-31-2009, 05:04 AM
New World Order doesn't fit because it's not "new" and it certainly doesn't encompass the whole world, though it may aim to do so. More groupthink.

It needs a new name.

Or you can take an old but under-used name -- Dajjal.
Isn't that the advent of the antichrist in the Muslim faith?
"Short stout man with one eye."

Muslims tend to believe the Freemasons are the Dajjal, so I've heard. They hate Masons and in most Islamic countries they're banned.

I guess the singular eye symbols used by Masons is how they made the retarded connection? Fuck if I know.

Bitchkoma
05-31-2009, 05:53 AM
Freemasonry ain't banned where I'm at. In fact I've a couple of friends who's dads are masons. It's just a charity club here, like Rotary Club and Lions Club. Nobody here is anti-freemason far as I know, unless they learn of that idea from western loonies.

Antichrist is a concept, like Dajjal. Forget the religious implications and it's pretty much the personification of all that is abhorrent in Man.

Kacen
05-31-2009, 06:13 AM
Well in middle-eastern Islamic countries at least, a lot of them consider it the Dajjal and ban it.

Watcher-In-The-Shadows
05-31-2009, 08:25 AM
See the above regarding Silvio Berlusconi.

I won't spam links at you because it could be selective reporting of the facts. Research that man, who he is, the things he has done and the organizations he has been and is currently a member of.

There are certain people on the world stage that are the physical manifestation of conspiracy, even in the face of the law.

The only thing left to deny is your unwillingness to accept the fact that there are indeed individuals that are determined to rule and control as large a portion of humanity as possible.

It's been true since the dawn of time, what exactly makes you think we're so enlightened at this period of time to escape Shakespeare and Virgil?

I will.
And I think you're confusing my stance a little bit here.
I never said conspiracy can't and hasn't happened.
I just have more than a little problem with the globe spanning super conspiracies that your standard CT buys into.
I think it's largely against mankind's nature and based of a great deal of observation is where I come to that conclusion.
It's always easier to blame someone else for the woes of the world when in fact it's each of our faults, to differing degrees.
It's easier to make huge leaps of faith and invent shadowy councils of rich and powerful men and blame THEM for all the failings of the world. Even going as far as to claiming that because they all went to the same Country Club that club is some kinda organization of evil.
And mankind, especially those members of it driven by greed.
Aren't about sharing with anyone, except perhaps their next "heir".

Kacen
05-31-2009, 08:51 AM
I just don't think there's an organized group trying to rule the world, working together, that is.

boycotteverything
05-31-2009, 08:55 AM
I just don't think there's an organized group trying to rule the world, working together, that is.and you are correct. shallow thinkers are always connecting dots and creating monsters just to stir the mob.

Watcher-In-The-Shadows
05-31-2009, 09:31 AM
I just don't think there's an organized group trying to rule the world, working together, that is.

100% agreed.

boycotteverything
05-31-2009, 09:37 AM
you, me, and kacen. now there's a club!

Watcher-In-The-Shadows
05-31-2009, 09:57 AM
LoL!
I have no problem with Kacen but I think grouping you and I together is begging for nothing but trouble.
:lol:

skunk
05-31-2009, 10:15 AM
The purported goals of this "shadowy group" that most conspiracy theorists talk about are nothing like the goals of the Bavarian Illuminati. So it makes me wonder how that name got latched onto it.

Does the phrase powers that be work for you kacen, or is that another group you happen to like?


Add the fact that this shadowy group probably doesn't even exist...makes this whole situation even dumber.


Where did I say that they did? Learn to read please.


I wouldn't even call it an organization per say as that would imply the goals are shared among everyone and there exists a shadowy group controlling world affairs.

boycotteverything
05-31-2009, 10:36 AM
Where did I say that they did? Learn to read please.well- i'd have to say that the two of you are in basic agreement. which is a revelation in itself- but a good one.

Bitchkoma
05-31-2009, 10:40 AM
Man, in teh end we all agree on that point. But it took a bit more dialogue to realize that we all have different ways of putting it into words. You know, it makes me think, it's so easy to get people to clash and splinter that if there was an actual organization out to take over the world, it'd be easy.

boycotteverything
05-31-2009, 10:43 AM
ta daaaaa... i give you-- the Borg.

Bitchkoma
05-31-2009, 11:01 AM
Google?

skunk
05-31-2009, 11:13 AM
It's so easy to get people to clash and splinter that if there was an actual organization out to take over the world, it'd be easy.

They're doing a great job aren't they?

:shock:

Watcher-In-The-Shadows
05-31-2009, 11:30 AM
It's so easy to get people to clash and splinter that if there was an actual organization out to take over the world, it'd be easy.

They're doing a great job aren't they?

:shock:

Considering that is with forgetting the fact that such groups are also human and thusly held to the same clashability and etc you speak of.

boycotteverything
05-31-2009, 11:31 AM
Google?The Gatesian Borg. Another word for it is Google. Same shit, different channel.

Infinite`Eternal`Forever
01-12-2010, 08:11 PM
I don't buy it. Not for a minute. Besides, aren't the illuminati racist??

Cogburn
01-12-2010, 08:18 PM
I don't buy it. Not for a minute. Besides, aren't the illuminati racist??

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/5869/553082-lol_wut_pear_glasses_super.jpg

Infinite`Eternal`Forever
01-12-2010, 09:12 PM
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/5869/553082-lol_wut_pear_glasses_super.jpg

Seriously, wasn't part of their plan for world domination to kill off a majority of the black race?

Cogburn
01-12-2010, 09:51 PM
Seriously, wasn't part of their plan for world domination to kill off a majority of the black race?

Not that I've ever seen.

You have something that says otherwise?

Infinite`Eternal`Forever
01-12-2010, 09:57 PM
Not that I've ever seen.

You have something that says otherwise?

The Illuminati believe that Blacks are the lowest inferior race. They founded the "Eugenics" movement to eliminate inferior races and manufacture a Master Race. Their program has been followed in Asia, Africa, Europe and the Western World.

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=11570

Infinite`Eternal`Forever
01-12-2010, 10:05 PM
The above also pretty much coincides with what I said in my rant about the cops when the subject shifted towards racism:


I'm bored, so I'll just drop a gem of knowledge. ;)

All the white supremacy started at the beginning of the slave trade. Let me paint a picture. You start enslaving a group of people and call them Negro (black object) and over the course of centuries you destroy all powerful African nations and grow accustomed to the black mans subservient existence. Your kids and their kids and their kids grow up seeing blacks as slaves, 3/5th's of a man as well as sub-human. You then substantiate this belief by claiming cultures different than yours have practices that are inferior or primitive because they are not white. Then you base the field of psychology, eugenics, religion, and evolution off of these claims and BOOM you have a monster called white power. :(

skunk
01-12-2010, 10:35 PM
First you'd have to demonstrate the illuminati exist. We're trying to do that now with no success :D

Infinite`Eternal`Forever
01-12-2010, 10:38 PM
First you'd have to demonstrate the illuminati exist. We're trying to do that now with no success :D

I'd say it's possible that they exist. But who knows...

Cogburn
01-13-2010, 03:33 AM
I'd say it's possible that they exist. But who knows...

You're not sure if they exist, but you are sure that if they did that they hate black people.

A special facepalm just for you.

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r28/spidermike_reborn/sisko_facepalm.gif

Infinite`Eternal`Forever
01-13-2010, 03:37 AM
You're not sure if they exist, but you are sure that if they did that they hate black people.

A special facepalm just for you.

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r28/spidermike_reborn/sisko_facepalm.gif

I never said that. I had asked 2 questions which were:

Aren't they racist and wasn't their plan for world domination to off the part of the black race.

Cogburn
01-13-2010, 03:46 AM
I never said that. I had asked 2 questions which were:

Aren't they racist and wasn't their plan for world domination to off the part of the black race.
Yes, but then when I asked you for proof you provided some rambling webpage that doesn't bother to support any claims with verifiable evidence, much less a reference to a book or someone else's research.

If that's the kinda thing you're going to use to support your statements you might as well ask Hissil to draft up something for you.