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KIWI
05-27-2009, 11:02 PM
found some later info on this........

here is brief explanation also on the discovery,


An unusual artifact found by sponge divers in 1901 off the coast of the small island of Antikythera near Crete, which appears to have been used for astronomical calculations and predictions. It is the most complicated piece of scientific machinery known from antiquity. The divers had been searching the sunken wreck of a Roman cargo ship and discovered a number of marble and bronze statues before coming across a large piece of corroded bronze. The archaeologist Valerios Stais later noticed that this contained the remains of gear wheel.

The "Antikythera Mechanism," it turned out, was made up of a number of gears and wheels. An X-ray analysis of the object showed that the internal gearing was remarkably complex and consisted of a differential gearing system. The device predated by about 1,500 years mechanisms of similar complexity in post-Renaissance Europe. A total of 82 fragments were recovered containing 30 hand-cut bronze gears. The largest fragment has 27 cogs.



Further research published in 2006



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An Anglo-Greek team published new results on the Antikythera Mechanism in 2006. This new work used advanced imaging techniques, such as three-dimensional X-ray microfocus computed tomography, to take detailed pictures of the device and uncover new information. The major structure the researchers describe, like earlier studies, had a single, centrally placed dial on the front plate that showed the Greek zodiac and an Egyptian calendar on concentric scales. On the back, two further dials displayed information about the timing of lunar cycles and eclipse patterns.

The Mechanism had some remarkably advanced features to allow for subtle astronomical effects. For example, the Moon sometimes moves slightly faster in the sky than at other times because of its elliptical orbit. To allow for this, the calculator used a pin-and-slot mechanism to connect two gear-wheels that introduced the necessary variations.

New text found on the device, combined with analysis of the dials, hint at the possibility that the Antikythera Mechanism could also have displayed planetary motions. Inscriptions mention the word "Venus" and the word "stationary," which suggest that the machine was able to look at retrogressions of planets. As well as calculating the motions of Venus and Mercury, the Mechanism might have also been able to display the other planets visible to the naked-eye – Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn – though experts continue to disagree on its exact scope.




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hp
05-27-2009, 11:13 PM
The largest fragment has 27 cogs

Quite remarkable given that the 21st century Amkon has only one cog.

Lexion
05-27-2009, 11:22 PM
The largest fragment has 27 cogs

Quite remarkable given that the 21st century Amkon has only one cog.

Smited.

Lex

theeindiee
05-27-2009, 11:30 PM
We are all cogs.... cogburn is just stating the fact that being a cog burns if you think about it too much. Maybe that's why some of us are trying to un-cog ourselves.

guinnessford
05-27-2009, 11:32 PM
I thought it came from the famous "Rooster" Cogburn.

Ducky
05-28-2009, 12:09 AM
Trying to find the vid where some guy made a working replicate of the mechanism.

GhostOfCaptSpaulding
05-28-2009, 12:14 AM
Trying to find the vid where some guy made a working replicate of the mechanism.

Here ya go: 8]4eUibFQKJqI8]

pack3tg0st
05-28-2009, 12:17 AM
This is one of the most fascinating discoveries IMHO...

There's a few History Channel specials on it too if ya can catch em while they're on...

Ducky
05-28-2009, 12:21 AM
Trying to find the vid where some guy made a working replicate of the mechanism.

Here ya go: 4]4eUibFQKJqI4]


That's the one!!!! :D

Way to go Goo!!!!

KIWI
05-28-2009, 12:38 AM
very cool Ducky/CGS,I never seen that before, ...........

GhostOfCaptSpaulding
05-28-2009, 12:46 AM
I like the little black and white ball that describes the phases of the moon...

Cogburn
05-28-2009, 12:54 AM
It's a 2,000 year old ship's timepiece. The captain would turn the crank one turn each morning. If the positions of the planets were a match, the captain could set a proper course across vast bodies of water.

... and it's not Greek and it's not Babylonian.

This isn't some tinkerer's toy. This is a finely crafted piece of engineering. Kindly highlight the culture that made clockwork gears 2,000 years ago.

The culture that made that had all of the technological capabilities of no less than Renaissance Switzerland.

EDIT: ... and the number of planets doesn't indicate that it was all the planets that were known... those are simply all the planets that are required for naval navigation in the northern hemisphere.

lala
05-28-2009, 01:20 AM
Found this on there site would be interesting to go, :)



The Antikythera Mechanism and its place in the history of science, technology and ideas

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By Antikythera Mec... - Posted on 13 February 2009

Date: Wednesday, 29 July 2009 - 9:00am - Monday, 3 August 2009 - 9:00pm
Location:
Corvinus University of Budapest

This conference is organized within the scope of the XXIII International Congress of History of Science and Technology (General theme: Ideas and Instruments in Social Context).

The following program is provisional. Sessions are indicative and the dates cited above are those of the conference (the final schedule is not yet available).
This page will be updated on a regular basis [last update: 15 February 2009
http://www.antikythera-mechanism.gr/node/473