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theeindiee
05-24-2009, 04:16 PM
Well I had this idea to incorporate music into my meditation. I am a natural musician who is aware that music and "spirituality" are inseperable in their relation to one another. Playing guitar is enough to induce altered states of consciousness.

So, I found a book which suggests that the larynx is the focal point for activating other "chakra" centers.... such as the third eye, for one. This is interesting, since many Eastern meditation techniques involve throat signing, or humming a certain note for extended periods of time.

I wondered what effect introducing throat singing into meditation would do. I started off just breathing with slight muscle pressure on the larynx to create a slight "wind blowing noise", and just let my mind wander around that point of slight focus.... and that alone put me into a trance-like state. While in this trance like state, I observed a patch of light open up above me. Once this happened, I spontaneously started humming/chanting.... and as I did that, my vision expanded to a full 360 degrees. To either side of me, there was a sillhouette of my body, and behind the sillouhette were different shades of sillhouette extending into infinity. On one side, the colors around my sillhouette were bright and light, and on the other side, the colors were dark and heavy, and you could just barely make out the sillhouette. What I noticed was that, when I hummed, my light sided sillhouette would start to wig out and dance like a shaman on crack. Also, while it wigged out, massive surges of energy pulsated in all of these spectacular colors outward from the sillhouette and also all of the sillhouette trails into infinity pulsated.

My dark sided sillhouette actually started out at a very close proximity to my center self, but after a while of chanting, I moved closer to the light sided sillouhette.

It all ended rather painfully. Suddenly, a huge jolt of energy burst through my body, and my head and neck flew backwards and my spine arched..... and I was stuck arched backwards while this strong assed energy was pulsating through me, and it really hurt. When it was all over, it was like all of my bones had been knocked slightly out of socket, and I had to crack everything back in place.

So I dunno what happened, but it was intense.

lala
05-24-2009, 06:52 PM
Indy you might of trigger a different part of the brain . . . have a look at this!!! Just a thought :)


The effects of partial seizures can be quite dependent on the area of the brain in which they are active. For example, a partial seizure in areas involved in perception may cause a particular sensory experience (for example, the perception of a scent, music or flashes of light) whereas, when centred in the motor cortexEarly Work on Motor Cortex Function Back in the 1940s, Canadian neurosurgeon Wilder Penfield wanted to know which bits of epileptic's brains he could suck out without them noticing. To work out which were the really important bits of cortex he electricall, a partial seizure might cause movement in particular groups of muscleskeletal muscle Muscle is one of the four tissue types. The other three types are: epithelium, connective tissue and nervous tissue. The primary purpose of muscle tissue is to contract. Muscle contraction is used to move parts of the body, as well as to ms. This type of seizure may also produce particular thoughts or internal visual images or even experiences which may be distinct but not easily described. Seizures centred on the temporal lobeThe temporal lobe is part of the cerebrum. It lies at the side of the brain, beneath the lateral or Sylvian fissure. Seen in profile, the human brain looks something like a boxing glove. The temporal lobe is where the thumb would be. Behind (posterior to)s are known to produce mysticalMysticism is meditation, prayer, or theology focused on the direct experience of union with divinity, God, or Ultimate Reality, or the belief that such experience is a genuine and important source of knowledge. Perspectives of mysticism A wide range of pe or ecstaticAnother article on a related topic is titled ecstasy. Religious ecstasy is a trance-like state that is deliberately induced using a variety of techniques, including prayer, meditation, breathing exercises, dancing, fasting, thirsting, and the consumption experiences in some people. These may result in a misdiagnosis of psychosisPsychosis is a psychiatric classification for a mental state in which the perception of reality is distorted. Persons experiencing a psychotic episode may experience hallucinations (often auditory or visual hallucinations), hold paranoid or delusional bel or even schizophreniaSchizophrenia is a psychiatric diagnosis denoting a persistent, often chronic, mental illness variously affecting behaviour, thinking, and emotion. The term schizophrenia comes from the Greek words schizo split or divide) and phrenos mind) and is best tra, if other symptoms of seizure are disregarded and other tests are not performed. Unfortunately for those with epilepsy, anti-psychotic medications prescribed without anti-convulsants in this case can actually lower the seizure threshold further and worsen the symptoms.
http://www.economicexpert.com/a/Epilepsy.htm

Cogburn
05-24-2009, 07:41 PM
Look for music in perfect fifths or fifth interval harmonies.

Stanley Kubrick knew....

lala
05-24-2009, 08:19 PM
Look for music in perfect fifths or fifth interval harmonies.

Stanley Kubrick knew....

Cog have you heard of Gemetria! :) . . sorry Cog maybe if I spell it right you'd know what the hell I'm talking about . . . Geometria :)

theeindiee
05-25-2009, 01:41 PM
Cog.... the power chord is a fifth.

Chugga chugga chugga to God.

I actually resonate very deeply with fifths. Great harmonies.

I did a numerological analysis of my name and my name is equivalent with the number 555. Interesting tit bit.

Lala, are you saying I induced a seizure? Because I DO have a mild form of epilepsy... however this was pronouncedly different from one of my rare episodes. It felt like I was fucking with the kundalini.

GeneralStriker
05-25-2009, 02:58 PM
I actually resonate very deeply with fifths.Drink one before bedtime. I suggest Blackjack. Excellent medication technique with interesting results.

theeindiee
05-25-2009, 03:22 PM
you so cahrayzay

Cogburn
05-25-2009, 03:38 PM
Cog.... the power chord is a fifth.

Chugga chugga chugga to God.

I actually resonate very deeply with fifths. Great harmonies.

I did a numerological analysis of my name and my name is equivalent with the number 555. Interesting tit bit.

Lala, are you saying I induced a seizure? Because I DO have a mild form of epilepsy... however this was pronouncedly different from one of my rare episodes. It felt like I was fucking with the kundalini.
Hitler knew. He demanded all music at his rallies be played in the key of Concert A, or 440Hz. No matter what was played it directly resonated within 80% of the skulls of the attendees. Wagner wasn't random choice.

Music is physics and physics is math. Should we be surprised at the correlations between harmonics and geometria?

GeneralStriker
05-25-2009, 03:45 PM
Hitler knew. He demanded all music at his rallies be played in the key of Concert A, or 440Hz. No matter what was played it directly resonated within 80% of the skulls of the attendees. Wagner wasn't random choice.Source, please.

theeindiee
05-25-2009, 04:18 PM
I'm not surprised at all.

Cogburn
05-25-2009, 05:35 PM
Hitler knew. He demanded all music at his rallies be played in the key of Concert A, or 440Hz. No matter what was played it directly resonated within 80% of the skulls of the attendees. Wagner wasn't random choice.Source, please.
Google it yourself, lazy ass.

torbjon
05-25-2009, 07:13 PM
Cogburn:



According to Hitler and Goebbels (Hitler's second in command), the three master composers that represented good German music were Ludwig van Beethoven, Richard Wagner, and Anton Bruckner. All three composers lived prior to the 20th century.



Ludwig van Beethoven (1770-1827) believed that "strength is the morality of the man who stands out from the rest." Hitler identified himself with Beethoven as possessing that heroic German spirit. Beethoven was so loved by the German people that his legacy of music was unrivaled by any other composer.



Richard Wagner (1818-1883) was Hitler's favorite composer. During World War I, it is reported, he carried Wagner's music from Tristan in his knapsack. Often Hitler had Wagner's music performed at party rallies and functions. Wagner's music was uncompromisingly serious, and intensely Teutonic. It was not only Wagner's music that 'struck a chord' with Hitler, but also his political views. Wagner wrote a violently antisemitic booklet in the 1850s called Das Judebthum in die Musik (Judaism in Music) insisting the Jews poisoned public taste in the arts. He founded the Bayreuth festival, which in the 1930s and 1940s was used by the Nazi party as a propaganda tool against the Jews.



Anton Bruckner (1824-1896) considered himself a disciple of Wagner. Bruckner and Wagner were contemporaries composing much of their music between 1845-1880. Bruckner met Wagner in 1865 at the premiere of Tristan and Isolde in Munich. He dedicated his Third Symphony to Wagner. Music historians have referred to Bruckner's Adagio of the Seventh Symphony as the Adagio of premonition. It is music written with funerals in mind. Wagner died shortly after Bruckner finished it in 1883. Like Hitler, Bruckner had humble beginnings. He never forgot his "peasant roots." Much of Bruckner's early training and education was under the guidance of Augustine monks. He had a genuine love of nature and "the great German Fatherland." To Hitler, Bruckner exemplified the people. A movement from Bruckner's Seventh Symphony was played upon the news of Hitler's death in 1945.



http://fcit.usf.edu/HOLOCAUST/arts/musReich.htm

The Tristan Chord:


The Tristan chord is a chord made up of the notes F, B, D? and G?. More generally, it can be any chord that consists of these same intervals: augmented fourth, augmented sixth, and augmented second above a root. It is so named as it is the very first chord heard in Richard Wagner's opera Tristan und Isolde.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tristan_chord

Wagners Opinion:


He then supplies a Wagner-approved analysis, that of Czech professor K. Mayrberger (1878), who "places the chord on the second degree, and interprets the G? as an appoggiatura. But above all, Mayrberger considers the attraction between the E and the real bass F to be paramount, and calls the Tristan chord a Zwitterakkord (a bisexual or androgynous chord), whose F is controlled by the key of A minor, and D? by the key of E minor."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tristan_chord#Wagner.27s_opinion

I can't find anything on "Concert A" and 440 Hz being a Nazi requirement, a demand, or even a request....

So, am I a lazy fuck too? I took some time and looked, but I can't find anything to directly support your claim... BE / GS did ask nicely for a source... so now it's my turn... got a source for that? Point a brother in the right direction at least? Something? Anything?

Cogburn
05-25-2009, 07:25 PM
Verdi's A = Concert A = A-440 = 440 Hz

Requirement? Is there a professional musician in the house?

My statements are an extrapolation based on the facts of the Nazi musical selections made personally by the hierarchy and the pitch at which concert orchestra's are tuned.

You provided all the facts required in your post.

Going further requires actually stringing the facts together into a new concept.

Give it a shot... you might try it refreshing change as opposed to mindless Google's and linkspam looking for someone else to spell it all out for you.

Cogburn
05-25-2009, 07:56 PM
Christ... here...
http://www86.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=concert+a
http://www86.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=440+hz

Meet Daniel Levitin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Levitin). Read his works on 440Hz. He provides the scientific basis for the reason why Concert A is... Concert A.

This piece in the key of F Minor was reported to cause orgasms in women of the day. You could argue corset tightness if you want to, but he was still banned for life for playing it infront of unmarried women, none the less.
http://www86.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=f+minor
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Ever see Pink Floyd in concert? Music and lights to create a specific mental effect in the audience.
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The Nazi's intentionally utilized the same techniques to create a specific mental effect in their audience. Instead of a laser light show it was 250,000 torches and Nazi party banners in the style of the Roman Emperors.

You want to argue that they didn't understand the specific science?

Go right the fuck ahead, but then you're going to have to explain to me how they were able to utilize steel without knowing it's exact physical structure at the atomic scale.

Don't pretend to be stupid just to stop me from being mean to BE. If you don't want me to be mean, just say it.