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Bitchkoma
05-17-2009, 04:05 PM
How Neanderthals met a grisly fate: devoured by humans (http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2009/may/17/neanderthals-cannibalism-anthropological-sciences-journal)
[offsite:3u9xpb42]One of science's most puzzling mysteries - the disappearance of the Neanderthals - may have been solved. Modern humans ate them, says a leading fossil expert.

The controversial suggestion follows publication of a study in the Journal of Anthropological Sciences about a Neanderthal jawbone apparently butchered by modern humans. Now the leader of the research team says he believes the flesh had been eaten by humans, while its teeth may have been used to make a necklace.

Fernando Rozzi, of Paris's Centre National de la Récherche Scientifique, said the jawbone had probably been cut into to remove flesh, including the tongue. Crucially, the butchery was similar to that used by humans to cut up deer carcass in the early Stone Age. "Neanderthals met a violent end at our hands and in some cases we ate them," Rozzi said.[/offsite:3u9xpb42]

It's not cannibalism if it's a different species, right?

Lexion
05-17-2009, 04:07 PM
That's a mighty fine hair to
be splitting.

Interesting, though. Thanks.

Regards,
Lex

Alessandra
05-18-2009, 03:12 AM
this makes me crave bacon. Where's the nearest neanderthal bulk store

Doc_Gonzo
05-18-2009, 03:21 AM
Throw em on a bun with some tomato and lettuce....

YUM!

Alessandra
05-18-2009, 11:52 AM
new sandwich: the NLT.

mojo
05-18-2009, 10:10 PM
i think there is also good reason to believe that some humans and neandertals co-existed, i dont believe for a moment that the reason for their disappearance was because we ate them all, lol.

theeindiee
05-18-2009, 10:41 PM
I'll bet this news article stimulated the beef industry today. Gives people scientific excuses for bloodlust. "Well see? We even eat human looking animals. The meat industry is just fine and we can continue closing our eyes lalalalalala...."

And then I see today on television the movie "The Animal". Rob Schneider is.... a stapler!

In summary, you can't become an animal. You are already an animal. Also, most humans wouldn't be able to stand killing something which looks like them, or looks as though it experiences like them..... So I highly doubt we ATE another species of human to death.

Nothing like retroactive racism. "They werre inferior to our race.... so we ate them to extinction."

Chickens and fish are fine foods. I'll stick with meat from those goddamn hybrid dinosaur cousinfucked relatives, the birds.

We should be suspicious of the birds. They have hidden agendas.

Bitchkoma
05-19-2009, 01:26 AM
:lol:

Indy... where'd you get those thoughts?

I was thinking that since the closest analogue to human flesh there is is pig-flesh, it's not unreasonable to think that Neanderthal flesh was probably quite similar. Also, I hear human meat taste like bacon.

Cogburn
05-19-2009, 01:29 AM
i think there is also good reason to believe that some humans and neandertals co-existed, i dont believe for a moment that the reason for their disappearance was because we ate them all, lol.
This is really pretty antithetical to the archeology that has come before.

We know there was cultural interaction, goods traded and even interbreeding.

You string up teeth as a symbol of conquest...

mojo
05-19-2009, 01:38 AM
Also, I hear human meat taste like bacon.

i thought everything tastes like chicken.

Alessandra
05-19-2009, 02:17 AM
Also, I hear human meat taste like bacon.

i thought everything tastes like chicken.


probably because our meat is kind of like pigs meat.

Watcher-In-The-Shadows
05-19-2009, 02:41 AM
i think there is also good reason to believe that some humans and neandertals co-existed, i dont believe for a moment that the reason for their disappearance was because we ate them all, lol.
This is really pretty antithetical to the archeology that has come before.

We know there was cultural interaction, goods traded and even interbreeding.

You string up teeth as a symbol of conquest...

Well in a bind we'll eat each other.
Yet we are not all universally called cannibals.
I think they found one case of it and are calling it the rule.
Which happens all toooooooooooooo damn often.

Bitchkoma
05-19-2009, 02:50 AM
Actually, it's the reporter who's calling it a rule. The archaeologist who made the discovery said that it might not be the rule, but it's still an important discovery, that some of our ancestors figured those other people tasted good.

Watcher-In-The-Shadows
05-19-2009, 02:58 AM
They don't know the factors of the situation.
Like I said we will resort to cannibalism if the situation warrents it.
It's not that we think each other are delicious either.

Cogburn
05-19-2009, 03:01 AM
They don't know the factors of the situation.
Like I said we will resort to cannibalism if the situation warrents it.
It's not that we think each other are delicious either.
So if you had to resort to cannibalism you'd save the teeth to make a pretty necklace?

Bitchkoma
05-19-2009, 03:46 AM
It's not that we think each other are delicious either.

I think you're delicious.

Watcher-In-The-Shadows
05-19-2009, 06:50 AM
They don't know the factors of the situation.
Like I said we will resort to cannibalism if the situation warrents it.
It's not that we think each other are delicious either.
So if you had to resort to cannibalism you'd save the teeth to make a pretty necklace?


This denotes them found them delicious how?
Trophies? Perhaps some sort of warrior eats the vanquished type protoculture?

KIWI
05-19-2009, 07:09 AM
How Neanderthals met a grisly fate: devoured by humans (http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2009/may/17/neanderthals-cannibalism-anthropological-sciences-journal)
[offsite:9ofchj9k]One of science's most puzzling mysteries - the disappearance of the Neanderthals - may have been solved. Modern humans ate them, says a leading fossil expert.

The controversial suggestion follows publication of a study in the Journal of Anthropological Sciences about a Neanderthal jawbone apparently butchered by modern humans. Now the leader of the research team says he believes the flesh had been eaten by humans, while its teeth may have been used to make a necklace.

Fernando Rozzi, of Paris's Centre National de la Récherche Scientifique, said the jawbone had probably been cut into to remove flesh, including the tongue. Crucially, the butchery was similar to that used by humans to cut up deer carcass in the early Stone Age. "Neanderthals met a violent end at our hands and in some cases we ate them," Rozzi said.[/offsite:9ofchj9k]

It's not cannibalism if it's a different species, right?

Farkin hill Bitch, that bloke draws a hell of a long bow doesnt he?......just read the whole article, must have been a slow day out on the "dig", this is science at work ? this noddy gets tax-payer research money to come up with this ? :roll:

KIWI
05-19-2009, 07:45 AM
If we did eat them I can see why now........ginger's :?



DNA evidence has revealed some Neanderthals probably had red hair after scientists discovered a pigmenting gene in ancient remains.

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Neanderthals, who lived around 400,000 to 28,000 years ago, are typically portrayed as dark skinned and dark-haired but some may have more closely resembled Europeans.


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Human ancestors less ape-like than thought. An international study of the bones of two cavemen found a gene that affects the production of melanin, associated with fair skin and fiery hair.

This indicates that some Neanderthals had pale skin and red hair, much like modern day humans.

Currently, less than 2 per cent of the world's population have red hair, with most of those being European.

The study, reported in Science journal, is one of the first to extract nuclear DNA from Neanderthal remains.

“The papers make Neanderthals more like modern Europeans, with light skin and hair colour and language abilities, and yet there are no signs of interbreeding with modern humans,” molecular biologist Carles Lalueza-Fox told the journal.

"This was a bit like finding a needle in a genomic haystack. I couldn't believe we found it the first time. I asked my friends to repeat the results.

"Eventually the variant was found in two separate Neanderthals in three different labs."

The authors of the study took fragments of DNA from Neanderthal bones found at Monte Lessini in Italy and from remains unearthed at El Sidron cave in northern Spain.

Past research has indicated the species was adept at tool making and survived in Europe until the arrival of modern man.

Scientists said a primitive European who saw more rain clouds than warm weather, would have been at an evolutionary advantage in having fair skin that allowed him to absorb more vitamin D from the sun.

Studies using the DNA technique are likely to discover far more than could be learnt from fossils, researchers said.

DNA from the bones found in Spain recently suggested that Neanderthals may have been capable of speech and actually used language.

Sceintists found a “language gene” in caveman bones that is only found in modern humans.

Bitchkoma
05-19-2009, 09:31 AM
I see redheads as particularly delicious, especially if the carpets match the drapes.

apeci
05-19-2009, 09:39 AM
Yum.

Interesting they call them "human ancestors." Neanderthals are not our ancestors as they are a different evolutionary line from homo sapiens. Of course there's the school of thought that "human" encompasses all the hominids from homo habilis on, but it's still inaccurate to call neanderthals our ancestors. Well... maybe the ancestors of some. Since homo sapiens will fuck anything and given the modern observational evidence I'm sure there's a few neanderthal genes floating around today.

KIWI
05-19-2009, 10:00 PM
I see redheads as particularly delicious, especially if the carpets match the drapes.

:lol: :lol: :lol: ........and...... :lol:

Lexion
05-19-2009, 10:01 PM
I prefer bare floors.

Just me.

Regards,
Lex