Shuttle Launch.

[Chorlton]

So what's Mr Lears take on the latest Shuttle launch, what with his alleged belief in alleged secret space stations etc?

[boycotteverything]

today he are mostly reading

[boycotteverything]

So what's Mr Lear's take on the latest Shuttle launch, what with his alleged belief in alleged secret space stations etc?You'd best watch your step, Mister Chorlton or Mr. Lear will have his inside contacts crash the Hubble into your garage.

[hp]

How to get rid of another space shuttle...out of gas and waiting for AAA.

[Chorlton]

So what's Mr Lear's take on the latest Shuttle launch, what with his alleged belief in alleged secret space stations etc?You'd best watch your step, Mister Chorlton or Mr. Lear will have his inside contacts crash the Hubble into your garage.

I could use the insurance money

KACHIIIIIIIING !

[theeindiee]

They are launching the shuttle. In other words, they are launching a couple of million children located in far off third world countries you'ven never heard of into starvation and death.... because that shit is fucking useless and it's a great way to launder resources which could be used for healing sickness and poverty into inane crap which we are brainwashed into believing is important... but this world is being run into the ground by criminals and they need a faultering space agency to throw all the dirty money at so people can play space pong.

[Chorlton]

Maybe you could tell me why the governments of those starving thousands are sending spacecraft up and buying planes and guns? and what that has to do with a US shuttle launch?
The US along with the UK sends millions to these countrie's in Foreign aid.

[Lexion]

Now, they've found gashes in
the tiles.

Yeah.......

Guess they knew something
ahead of time to have the
second shuttle on deck.

And, when IT gets gashes
during launch; then what ?

Hello Russia ? NASA calling....

Regards,
Lex

[Chorlton]

Yeah but on the UK TV they said that this was a very dangerous mission and because the ISS was too far away they had to have a potential rescue ship standing by.

[Lexion]

Said the same thing here.

Still sounds fishy.

But hey, this IS a CT board.

:D

Regards,
Lex

[Aragorn]

is this bullshit ?


On April 13, the National Archive Records Administration made available almost 250,000 pages of documents from President Reagan's administration. It will take several months for researchers to read through the documents. The released material may yield insight into a curious comment found in President Reagan's Diary. The entry for Tuesday, June 11, 1985 (page 334) reads:

"Lunch with 5 top space scientist. It was fascinating. Space truly is the last frontier and some of the developments there in astronomy etc. are like science fiction, except they are real. I learned that our shuttle capacity is such that we could orbit 300 people."

This is curious since the Space Shuttle holds a maximum of eight people and only five were built for space flight. Even if all five took off fully loaded it would be impossible to place and maintain 300 astronauts in orbit. Was Reagan revealing the existence of a highly classified space program that could accommodate hundreds of astronauts in orbit? Apparently so according to dozens of military and corporate whistleblowers. Hidden within one of the ten unified combatant commands of the U.S. military, Strategic Command, is a highly classified fleet of aircraft carrier sized antigravity vehicles that operate in outer space.

http://www.examiner.com/x-2383-Honolulu-Exopolitics-Examiner~y2009m4d15-Reagan-records--Space-Commands-secret-antigravity-fleet

[hp]

May be the worst astronauts got stuck in the shuttle program - missed the cut for the AG program.

[Lexion]

The first reference to Solar Warden occurred in March 2006. A reliable source, according to administrators of the Open Minds Forum

From Page 2 (http://www.examiner.com/x-2383-Honolulu-Exopolitics-Examiner~y2009m5d6-NASA-decline-related-to-antigravity-space-fleet) of Aragorn's link.

I believe we are flying very
exotic craft.

In one of the "lost posts" I
commented that maybe the
phasing out of the shuttle
fleet may reveal to some ex-
tent, our capabilities.

One can only hope.

About carrying 300 people.
Kind of out of context.

300 over the entire shuttle
program ? Possible, I think;
given the length of the pro-
gram.

Pack 300 in the cargo bay ?
Hmm...maybe. But why ?

Taking quotes out of context
is a very slippery slope.

Plus, OM broke the news.

Yeah.....

Regards,
Lex

[Aragorn]

yea it seemed like the "carrying 300" was an out of context quote, but who knows really ?

i never heard of this "solar warden" crap before. you would think the military has somekind of secret craft wether it's anti gravity or not ?


If Reagan’s comments and whistleblower testimonies are correct, then the operational home of this secret antigravity space fleet, as shown in part one, is U.S. Strategic Command. The project name of the classified space fleet, according to several whistleblowers is “Solar Warden”. The existence of Solar Warden, if true, proves that NASA is a cover program using antiquated rocket propulsion technologies. If so, the 'futuristic' Constellation Program aimed to take astronauts to the moon and mars is a cover for an existing space program that regularly flies interplanetary missions using advanced antigravity propulsion technologies.

http://www.examiner.com/x-2383-Honolulu-Exopolitics-Examiner~y2009m5d6-NASA-decline-related-to-antigravity-space-fleet

[Lexion]

Deep breath....

The guy that wrote that
article runs This site (http://galacticdiplomacy.com/).


This website is dedicated to the development of 'track two' or 'citizen diplomacy' with extraterrestrial civilizations. This is a process whereby individuals and groups with no official government standing can establish contact and communications with extraterrestrials in ways that promote peace, fraternity and cooperation between humanity and extraterrestrial civilizations. This process is designed to complement 'official' or 'track one' Galactic Diplomacy that is secretly conducted by appointed government representatives without the awareness of the general population or elected political representatives (click here for more)

You decide his credibility.

I did, long ago.

Regards,
Lex

[Aragorn]

ok thanks, i now see why the info is questionable.

that's why i asked, i wasn't sure

peace

[Lexion]

Hey,
You and I got off to a rocky
start, because I'm an asshole.

But, stuff like this is what I
love to delve into.

Thanks for bringing it up, and
thanks for considering what I
brought to the table.

Now, when do we get to see
some of the exotic tech ?

Again, who knows.

Reverting to 60+ year old tech
just seems inane.

Meh, time shall tell.

Regards,
Lex

[hp]

Atlantis’ crew completed a planned survey of the shuttle heat shielding today, noting a few dings in tiles that experts will continue to analyze. Flight Director Tony Ceccacci said that upon an initial look, damage found during the inspection appeared to be minor and likely not a concern, but he said experts would analyze it as is normal to be certain the shuttle’s heat shielding is in good shape. The damage included small dings along an area of about 21 inches spanning four of the shuttle’s thermal tiles located on the starboard side of the spacecraft where the wing blends into the forward fuselage.

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/345874main_stbd-damage.jpg

[Lexion]

Was actually said the 21" scrape
was along the chine area.

Certain death, upon re-entry.

So, we get two shuttles up, at
one time.

Still sounds fishy.

Regards,
Lex

[Aragorn]

Hey,
You and I got off to a rocky
start, because I'm an asshole.

nah


But, stuff like this is what I
love to delve into.

Thanks for bringing it up, and
thanks for considering what I
brought to the table.


sure,..thank you for the advice


Now, when do we get to see
some of the exotic tech ?

Again, who knows.

Reverting to 60+ year old tech
just seems inane.

Meh, time shall tell.

Regards,
Lex

they gonna have to show us the star trek shit eventually

i am surprised it hasn't leaked out yet.

any idea if the military really has their own shuttle ?

if so where the hell is it launching from ?

[hp]

If it's anti-grav then maybe it just streaks off into space from some place in the middle of no where. Not much to see, just a blur.

[Cogburn]

This thread got me thinking...

I don't doubt that we have a secret space program, but NAVSPACECOM ain't it. SPAWAR isn't it, either, since they are basically the IT department of NAVSPACECOM.

NAVSPACECOM doesn't have launch facilities or the requisite logistical structures to support any sort of vehicle beyond internal logistics.

http://digital.library.unt.edu/govdocs/crs/permalink/meta-crs-9190:1

The link above is a document published in 1984 that outlines the funding and purposes of the military in space.

I'm not saying it contains all the answers you're looking for, but it does point in a few interesting directions.

[torbjon]

this seemed fishy to me too... since the git go. ALL space flights are risky... what made this "let's repair the Hubble" mission MORE dangerous than the last "let's repair the Hubble" mission?? The "reason" I can find is "space junk"...

This is the fifth mission, yes? The first four, no problem, space junk not an issue... Then Columbia blew up and there were safety concerns about the Shuttle itself, not space junk, that postponed that mission (that was like, five years ago or so)

They were gonna go fix the thing last fall, but the Hubble "fell silent" so they scrubbed a mission to go fix the thing because the thing was broken... NO Dual Shuttles then... ISS or other "space junk" not an issue just a few months ago...

but now... space junk.

From what I hear, this is the first time EVER that a shuttle stood by simply as a "rescue vehicle"... not a dual mission, just as a "what if" or "just in case" mission... that's Spendy.

So, if they don't need it for a rescue, what are they gonna do with the thing? Do a flyby of New York for a Photo Op??

This whole thing seems whack... and Staged. Wonder if there will be some really groovy "look over here while we do something over there" news in the not too distant future...

[Alessandra]

there was a space junk issue with the ISS earlier this year, I believe. They were about to abandon the ISS.

[torbjon]

Interesting...

so "space junk" is threatening the ISS, the Hubble, and anything else in those orbits (the Shuttles)...

sooooo, the mission is to fix / service the Hubble... NOT to clean up the "space junk"...

that's about as smart as a sack of hammers.

Sounds like my country to me.

carry on.

[Cogburn]

I think the contrived feeling we're all getting is because it is contrived.

Given how Columbia went down... with that damage being present for the entire mission before the final catastrophe on reentry... they are making a grand show of things this time around. I'm sure it's for their own people as well as the public at large.

For as "advanced" as the space shuttle is, it's interesting that it cannot detect an outer hull breach... especially when measuring a simple change in unexpected pressure between the tiles and the inner hull would do the trick.

I mean... these guys did watch "Star Trek" when they were designing it, right?

The space shuttle program was such a colossal fucking waste...

[torbjon]

"The space shuttle program was such a colossal fucking waste..."

I was "only a kid" when Nixon et al. scratched Apollo in exchange for Shuttle... but even then I could figure out how utterly STOOOPID that was...

I was born into Moon and Beyond... Apollo/Soyuz... Star Trek here we come...

And I was given (and forced to foot the bill for) worthless (and over priced) low Earth orbit...

I think we all have a right to be Pissed Off about that.

[GeneralStriker]

Why can't they find a way to send the shuttle fleet to the moon instead of just endlessly circling the earth? Same goes for that useless space station.

[Cogburn]

"The space shuttle program was such a colossal fucking waste..."

I was "only a kid" when Nixon et al. scratched Apollo in exchange for Shuttle... but even then I could figure out how utterly STOOOPID that was...

I was born into Moon and Beyond... Apollo/Soyuz... Star Trek here we come...

And I was given (and forced to foot the bill for) worthless (and over priced) low Earth orbit...

I think we all have a right to be Pissed Off about that.
Vertical takeoff is the hobgoblin of little minds... or greedy mouths.

The cost of a space shuttle launch isn't in the preparation, it's in the recovery and recycling of solid fuel boosters and the main tank...

Wonder who wins those contracting bids? Would it be Lockheed-Martin or another interested party?

[Ima Nasshole]

There's no such thing as space junk, we've never been to the moon, the astronauts are all liars, there are birds, fish, trees and rocks on the moon. Not to mention the high speed subways, 6 mile high towers, tractors that drag moons around, and...









































I have the sketches to prove it.

The above is for the purpose of stimulating debate, just in case John hasn't figured out we're up and running yet.

[GeneralStriker]

well i guess that about sums up the moon thread.

[Chorlton]

they gonna have to show us the star trek shit eventually
i am surprised it hasn't leaked out yet.
any idea if the military really has their own shuttle ?
if so where the hell is it launching from ?

Dont worry. I'm sure Loopy Lear and his Fantastic Fantasies will be along soon to tell us.