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ChadAndrewAmKon
06-20-2008, 03:12 PM
Testimony of illegal alien care from 1 Florida hospital

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SoFlaPatriot (http://www.youtube.com/user/SoFlaPatriot) wrote:

No need to editorialize. Here is a sampling of the sort of facts the politicians and pro-illegal lobby want you to ignore, yet expect you to continue to bear the burden of. Is it any wonder scores of hospitals in border states and elsewhere have shut down or closed their ER units?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Foxtrot Oscar
06-20-2008, 03:22 PM
We had (still have) the same problem in Hong Kong with mainland Chinese coming over to have their kids here...

They are now no longer allowed citizenship and women over 6 months pregnant are very often turned away at the border.

The fuckers were running up massive bills in the local hospitals, getting their papers and legging it...

It's a bit more difficult now, but it still happens.

Health care over here is really good, the gov covers most stuff, much the same as the UK.

How many Americans do not have health care?

Sometimes - nah all the time - you look after your own first!

Fox

Yo Mama
06-20-2008, 03:28 PM
We don't even really look after our own much. It's every man for himself here, and a common attitude is "it's my tax money, so fuck you!"

The hallmark of civilization is how well it treats its disadvantaged. Which is why the US isn't really very civilized at all. It's all veneer.

apeci
06-20-2008, 03:57 PM
Hey! A couple days ago I, of my own free will, took some new toys to a local children's hospital. As long as nobody says, "You either pay up or men with guns are going to take your property and put you in jail," it's all good. The hallmark of civilization is how often it uses violence with the common good as justification. When people are released from the shackles of tyranny some might be surprised at how generous they can be.

I mean shit, it's my tax money, so fuck you! :P

Abolish state welfare and the "problem" of a torrent of people coming over the border will reduce to a trickle. It won't be worth it for anyone to come up solely to get medical care and then skip out on the bill. It would probably still happen sometimes, but deadbeats are nothing new.

Yo Mama
06-20-2008, 04:47 PM
As a disabled person who depends on SSDI and state medical care, I can't agree with that.

Sometimes people need help. Throwing out all the American citizens who are disabled and unable to work with the illegals is not right.

Maybe the feds ought to follow up on calls to them about illegals using the system illegally, like the woman talked about in the video.

apeci
06-20-2008, 05:17 PM
If people didn't have their labor and their property stolen from them by the violent criminal gang calling itself government the coffers of charities across the country would be bursting at the seams. Charities are the answer. They are the answer to illegal immigration, prohibitive medical costs, able-bodied welfare claims, etc. Government doesn't care if illegals manage to obtain welfare. They can always take more money from people by force to cover the costs. Charities on the other hand are held accountable by their voluntary donors. They are obligated to verify a person requesting assistance is eligible and has a legitimate need.

Whenever the blood thirsty reach of government has been shortened, the people's capacity for generosity quickly fills the void. Regardless of ones problems in life, those problems never justify the use or threat of force except in the prevention of or in response to force. If the state had some way other than violence to acquire funding for its welfare programs it would become justified in its existence. Otherwise it is nothing more than an exercise in evil.

Yo Mama
06-20-2008, 06:17 PM
Not buying it. Most people are not generous in this country. They're greedy and selfish.

I'd rather have a guaranteed income and medical care than hope that the local charity has enough to help me, thanks.

vckums
06-20-2008, 06:22 PM
Wht not just come over here legally?

apeci
06-20-2008, 06:49 PM
I'd rather have a guaranteed income and medical care than hope that the local charity has enough to help me, thanks.
If using violence to provide that guaranteed income doesn't make you the least bit uncomfortable and driven to find an honorable alternative then a medical disability is the least of your problems.

Still love yah, though. :)

mojo
04-20-2010, 04:53 AM
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