ChadAndrewAmKon
05-18-2008, 08:54 PM
Subject: Ducky got BANNED from Sohai too! (http://amkon.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=26522#p26522)
I'm curious as to how we'll be able to expose them for the liars they are. Why would the average user believe us?
I'm reading through the issues thread, and most of them are kissing sohai's ass.
Would all of you (meaning: each & everyone of you, anti-COINTELPRO folks), who want AboveTopSecret.com to be exposed for what it is ( it's an "online tourist-trap" made for forum-addicts, 'post-count-whores', conspiracy-theorists, anonymous Feds & freemasons) please tell me why the staffers at this website won't use the name: AboveTopSecret.com on this website? Will you ever stop hiding the truth behind "Sohai"?
I want to encourage people to visit websites like this a lot more often, but before I continue to do so, I would like all of you to tell me & other new members of this website what's so bad about exposing the domain-name of AboveTopSecret.com at this website? In other words: Why is it so "taboo" to refer to Bill Irvine & Simon Gray's website as AboveTopSecret.com, rather than "Sohai"?
Don't be like the super asshole-owners (and a number of their minions/moderators) of AboveTopSecret.com.
I have witnessed people who have noticed the actions of Bill Irvine, Simon Gray, & their staffers (minions):
1. They censored, deleted & edited terms, such as "porch-mason", and "fag" on numerous occasions (when people have posted their opinions about "low-degree freemasons"), at that website.
2. They banned people (including folks, who have gotten "post-banned") from that website for asking unanswered short-questions.
3. They ignore people, who have spent a lot of time to help their online-community by posting over 200 stories & articles, at that website.
4. They post-banned their own conspiracy-master: John Lear & others like Eric Dubay (http://www.myspace.com/sheeplerevolt)
5. They make "secret-moderators", who have several-accounts to use, in case they ever want to pretend like they're a guest of that website, rather than a moderator, who may decide to ban or edit peoples' posts at that website.
6. They promote & advertise for several of the world's most dangerous & treasonous companies, such as:
1. Google:
An organization managed by fiat-Federal Agents, who collect all of our data, in order to create a profile with a list of our preferences, such as the domain-names of all of the websites we visit or for which search, on a daily basis.
2. World Government/U.S. Navy:
An organization that works for the Bauer-Rothchild family & their Zionist/Nazi-cronies.
Here's 1 of of their banners for the Navy at AboveTopSecret.com:
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk242/Amkon/PID_546831_navy_takeover_728x90.jpg
3. Ford:
An organization that has been using & abusing their mexican workers, for decades. Many of their managers & male-employees have even been caught picking up their female-employees in their company-vehicles & eventually raping those employees.
4. Verizon/AT&T:
Bought & Sold by the Bauer-Rothchild family, and managed by the National Security Agency (which shills for the same people, who manage the CIA, and other groups of mass-murderers).
Don't censor me, like this lady was censored by the asshole-owners of AboveTopSecret.com:
Laura Knight Jadczyk (http://laura-knight-jadczyk.blogspot.com/2006/01/abovetopsecretcom-cointelpro-update_10.html), who was once a member of that website & Amkon.net too.
Her Testimony about both of these websites can be found here:
• laura-knight-jadczyk.blogspot.com/2006/01/abovetopsecretcom-cointelpro-update-2.html (http://laura-knight-jadczyk.blogspot.com/2006/01/abovetopsecretcom-cointelpro-update-2.html)
• laura-knight-jadczyk.blogspot.com/2006/01/abovetopsecretcom-cointelpro-update_10.html (http://laura-knight-jadczyk.blogspot.com/2006/01/abovetopsecretcom-cointelpro-update_10.html)
Here is Darrell Kern's reply to Laura's previously stated concerns about AboveTopSecret.com (including this website) (http://www.blogger.com/profile/03780815878227295051):
I digress- back to ATS. I stumbled across a thread which was encouraging members to share their short stories both fiction and non-fiction and within this forum thread, ATS offered contests and rewards for these materials. I instantly saw a very nasty conflict of interest between ATS and their talent agency- William Morris Agency. When I mentioned this to a staff member- I received many "assurances" and was told they have such and such attorney and it was all covered and not to worry as agreements were currently being drawn up as a movie deal about the site was being developed which had nothing to do with member content. Further, It was revealed to me certain aspects of the deal which was a 5% agency fee which is standard with William Morris Agency (not entirely true.)
With this information I knew (because of my history as a talent agent) that ATS was in way over their heads and had no or little idea what they were talking about. Given my particular advice and offer of it was NOT wanted at the time- I began posting on subjects of interest to me.
The gang up attacks increased and the same members would follow me from post to post and refute anything and everything I said or question that I asked.
So in the course of researching a post I came across a website called "Amerikan Konspiracy dot net" after an ATS member friend suggested I check it out. There was/is a member at AMKON who's posts on the net I greatly admired. This man is named John Lear. Because Mr. Lear had made numerous posts at ATS- I signed up on ATS only to find he was no longer a member. I found him at AMKON as an active member, so I joined AMKON to follow his posts. I do not always agree with Mr. Lear- but I have found that his extensive research into subjects is comprehensive and generally I reach the same sources when I embark on voyages of discovery. So for me- I find him credible and highly entertaining and informative to read.
Back to ATS- Upon returning to the home site- I mentioned AMKON to a few ATS friends as a fun and less restrictive site ( we could swear and be stupid or silly when our funny bones needed a good tickle). I never suggested they join the site- but only to check it out.
I was banned from ATS for even mentioning AMKON. Once at AMKON a friend of mine asked me about the original stories wanted forum because there also existed a similar forum at AMKON. So before this friend posts his creative literary endeavors he wanted to know what my opinion on the matter would be. So i told him what I knew about ATS and their "deal" with William Morris Agency via the claims from ATS's CFO. I explained that I needed to conduct some research with my contacts and asked him not to say anything.
Sadly my request for confidentiality had not been honored as he had already spilled the beans to a few people which led to questions from them as well. I found out that the William Morris Agency does not represent ATS nor it's staff or site owners and much investigation revealed many aliases of site owners and many nefarious things which led me to formulate an opinion that ATS is a COINTELPRO organization and I will hold this opinion until all research is completed.
This is where the fun starts (well not really- but it is interesting and the reason I am posting this long-winded experience in this thread is because every disinformation tactic has been used!). ATS began sending spies over to AMKON since AKMON hit the net- but the activity increased substantially and my posted findings and research began getting debunked by a series of "newbie members" who began signing up quite fast and in record numbers!!! All calling me a liar and worse. I found myself in the middle of a tremendous battle of the highest drama level (it literally was more entertaining that a soap opera). It came down to litigious threats- typical webgang activity and all 25 techniques were employed against me. When I did not capitulate or become intimidated (I was drawn in and I threatened exposure and posted entertainment industry consequences which would be imminent should the truth resemble my opinions). Soon ATS sent a site owner to handle the bad blood- he came in and immediately used all 25 techniques! This situation is now officially hilarious upon reading the information here.
All in all- I wish I had come across this site and the above information before and this situation would have had less histrionic on my part.
In closing, I have never experienced being banned from a website because I belonged or participated in another! Fascism at its simplest or the simplest answer tends to be the right one. My gut instincts told me to get away from ATS almost immediately- however, my lack of experience in participating on boards directly led me to stay until I became more seasoned and after reading these posts I can see where a slow indoctrination process via a series of repetitive defensive actions on my part could transform me into a full fledged disinfo agent without even realizing it!
And that is very scary to me.
All I can say is my experience at ATS was horrible and manipulative and what I have learned from it is I can just as easily get lost in self-defense and defending the unable as I can in absorbing truthful information.
Also, AMKON.net has been throughly infiltrated by ATS staffers as well as ATS disinfo gang members and over the last few days I have decided to withdrawal from that site as well. As sweet as some of the people are at AMKON they have no idea the site has become infected with the same disease- or maybe they do- even great clothing designers knock off their own designs and sell them to outlet stores!
I'm curious as to how we'll be able to expose them for the liars they are. Why would the average user believe us?
I'm reading through the issues thread, and most of them are kissing sohai's ass.
Would all of you (meaning: each & everyone of you, anti-COINTELPRO folks), who want AboveTopSecret.com to be exposed for what it is ( it's an "online tourist-trap" made for forum-addicts, 'post-count-whores', conspiracy-theorists, anonymous Feds & freemasons) please tell me why the staffers at this website won't use the name: AboveTopSecret.com on this website? Will you ever stop hiding the truth behind "Sohai"?
I want to encourage people to visit websites like this a lot more often, but before I continue to do so, I would like all of you to tell me & other new members of this website what's so bad about exposing the domain-name of AboveTopSecret.com at this website? In other words: Why is it so "taboo" to refer to Bill Irvine & Simon Gray's website as AboveTopSecret.com, rather than "Sohai"?
Don't be like the super asshole-owners (and a number of their minions/moderators) of AboveTopSecret.com.
I have witnessed people who have noticed the actions of Bill Irvine, Simon Gray, & their staffers (minions):
1. They censored, deleted & edited terms, such as "porch-mason", and "fag" on numerous occasions (when people have posted their opinions about "low-degree freemasons"), at that website.
2. They banned people (including folks, who have gotten "post-banned") from that website for asking unanswered short-questions.
3. They ignore people, who have spent a lot of time to help their online-community by posting over 200 stories & articles, at that website.
4. They post-banned their own conspiracy-master: John Lear & others like Eric Dubay (http://www.myspace.com/sheeplerevolt)
5. They make "secret-moderators", who have several-accounts to use, in case they ever want to pretend like they're a guest of that website, rather than a moderator, who may decide to ban or edit peoples' posts at that website.
6. They promote & advertise for several of the world's most dangerous & treasonous companies, such as:
1. Google:
An organization managed by fiat-Federal Agents, who collect all of our data, in order to create a profile with a list of our preferences, such as the domain-names of all of the websites we visit or for which search, on a daily basis.
2. World Government/U.S. Navy:
An organization that works for the Bauer-Rothchild family & their Zionist/Nazi-cronies.
Here's 1 of of their banners for the Navy at AboveTopSecret.com:
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk242/Amkon/PID_546831_navy_takeover_728x90.jpg
3. Ford:
An organization that has been using & abusing their mexican workers, for decades. Many of their managers & male-employees have even been caught picking up their female-employees in their company-vehicles & eventually raping those employees.
4. Verizon/AT&T:
Bought & Sold by the Bauer-Rothchild family, and managed by the National Security Agency (which shills for the same people, who manage the CIA, and other groups of mass-murderers).
Don't censor me, like this lady was censored by the asshole-owners of AboveTopSecret.com:
Laura Knight Jadczyk (http://laura-knight-jadczyk.blogspot.com/2006/01/abovetopsecretcom-cointelpro-update_10.html), who was once a member of that website & Amkon.net too.
Her Testimony about both of these websites can be found here:
• laura-knight-jadczyk.blogspot.com/2006/01/abovetopsecretcom-cointelpro-update-2.html (http://laura-knight-jadczyk.blogspot.com/2006/01/abovetopsecretcom-cointelpro-update-2.html)
• laura-knight-jadczyk.blogspot.com/2006/01/abovetopsecretcom-cointelpro-update_10.html (http://laura-knight-jadczyk.blogspot.com/2006/01/abovetopsecretcom-cointelpro-update_10.html)
Here is Darrell Kern's reply to Laura's previously stated concerns about AboveTopSecret.com (including this website) (http://www.blogger.com/profile/03780815878227295051):
I digress- back to ATS. I stumbled across a thread which was encouraging members to share their short stories both fiction and non-fiction and within this forum thread, ATS offered contests and rewards for these materials. I instantly saw a very nasty conflict of interest between ATS and their talent agency- William Morris Agency. When I mentioned this to a staff member- I received many "assurances" and was told they have such and such attorney and it was all covered and not to worry as agreements were currently being drawn up as a movie deal about the site was being developed which had nothing to do with member content. Further, It was revealed to me certain aspects of the deal which was a 5% agency fee which is standard with William Morris Agency (not entirely true.)
With this information I knew (because of my history as a talent agent) that ATS was in way over their heads and had no or little idea what they were talking about. Given my particular advice and offer of it was NOT wanted at the time- I began posting on subjects of interest to me.
The gang up attacks increased and the same members would follow me from post to post and refute anything and everything I said or question that I asked.
So in the course of researching a post I came across a website called "Amerikan Konspiracy dot net" after an ATS member friend suggested I check it out. There was/is a member at AMKON who's posts on the net I greatly admired. This man is named John Lear. Because Mr. Lear had made numerous posts at ATS- I signed up on ATS only to find he was no longer a member. I found him at AMKON as an active member, so I joined AMKON to follow his posts. I do not always agree with Mr. Lear- but I have found that his extensive research into subjects is comprehensive and generally I reach the same sources when I embark on voyages of discovery. So for me- I find him credible and highly entertaining and informative to read.
Back to ATS- Upon returning to the home site- I mentioned AMKON to a few ATS friends as a fun and less restrictive site ( we could swear and be stupid or silly when our funny bones needed a good tickle). I never suggested they join the site- but only to check it out.
I was banned from ATS for even mentioning AMKON. Once at AMKON a friend of mine asked me about the original stories wanted forum because there also existed a similar forum at AMKON. So before this friend posts his creative literary endeavors he wanted to know what my opinion on the matter would be. So i told him what I knew about ATS and their "deal" with William Morris Agency via the claims from ATS's CFO. I explained that I needed to conduct some research with my contacts and asked him not to say anything.
Sadly my request for confidentiality had not been honored as he had already spilled the beans to a few people which led to questions from them as well. I found out that the William Morris Agency does not represent ATS nor it's staff or site owners and much investigation revealed many aliases of site owners and many nefarious things which led me to formulate an opinion that ATS is a COINTELPRO organization and I will hold this opinion until all research is completed.
This is where the fun starts (well not really- but it is interesting and the reason I am posting this long-winded experience in this thread is because every disinformation tactic has been used!). ATS began sending spies over to AMKON since AKMON hit the net- but the activity increased substantially and my posted findings and research began getting debunked by a series of "newbie members" who began signing up quite fast and in record numbers!!! All calling me a liar and worse. I found myself in the middle of a tremendous battle of the highest drama level (it literally was more entertaining that a soap opera). It came down to litigious threats- typical webgang activity and all 25 techniques were employed against me. When I did not capitulate or become intimidated (I was drawn in and I threatened exposure and posted entertainment industry consequences which would be imminent should the truth resemble my opinions). Soon ATS sent a site owner to handle the bad blood- he came in and immediately used all 25 techniques! This situation is now officially hilarious upon reading the information here.
All in all- I wish I had come across this site and the above information before and this situation would have had less histrionic on my part.
In closing, I have never experienced being banned from a website because I belonged or participated in another! Fascism at its simplest or the simplest answer tends to be the right one. My gut instincts told me to get away from ATS almost immediately- however, my lack of experience in participating on boards directly led me to stay until I became more seasoned and after reading these posts I can see where a slow indoctrination process via a series of repetitive defensive actions on my part could transform me into a full fledged disinfo agent without even realizing it!
And that is very scary to me.
All I can say is my experience at ATS was horrible and manipulative and what I have learned from it is I can just as easily get lost in self-defense and defending the unable as I can in absorbing truthful information.
Also, AMKON.net has been throughly infiltrated by ATS staffers as well as ATS disinfo gang members and over the last few days I have decided to withdrawal from that site as well. As sweet as some of the people are at AMKON they have no idea the site has become infected with the same disease- or maybe they do- even great clothing designers knock off their own designs and sell them to outlet stores!