Cavemandd's spirituality thread.

[cavemanDD]

Yeah.. I am basically going to explain how and why I think all things "paranormal" or completely normal in my own reasoning... to me that is.. however... I've learned through the past that my perception of these things are constantly changing as I try to actively search for the bigger picture.. I used to have about like... 11 pages of a blog and so.. for that reason, I have not created this post yet.. but I plan on it.. I'm just postin to let everyone know its commin'!

Actually maybe I'll start a new one after this because I'm sure people might want to comment on this and it would kind of steer from the original post... which might take until like 8 pages of replies for me to write!.. I don't know.. I'll figure it out.

I'll say this much... I used to be one pissed off human being, with all sorts of god damn problems I wasn't even aware of... Not only will I try to explain how I percieve my reality, but also how it has changed my life.. sorry... I dont want to use the word "it"... that sounds like i'm preaching a religion.. . "I" changed my life.. through the desire to rid myself of foreseable flaws in thinking, and through expanding the boundaries of my awareness...

I will also talk about my experiences with the common paranormal topics...

Telepathy, Precognition..Telekinesis or Manifestation...Meditation / "chakra" or energy work, and how its my belief that effectively, despite the fact I live in one of the dirtiest cities in the country and that I used to get sick twice a year, that I think through intent alone, I have not had so much as a sniffle for over 2 years.

Precognition.. When I was about 12 I was told by my aunt..who was told by... I don't like the word psychic.... but yeah.. told by a psychic a deal of information that would apply to me when I was about the age I am now. A few years after that I started to have many many dreams of particular events and people of signifigance and watched them all happen like 8 years later. It was a major contributing factor to pointing me in this direction and it made me do an overhaul of how I define my existence. I wrestled stubbornly with this "fixed" concept of destiny for about a year.

I have not yet been able to do anything too convincing with telekinesis yet, but when I do I plan on making a short video. I've been experimenting with a paper psi wheel for a while off and on... and just last week I formulated my own technique to "harness energy".. or rather.. confidence and motivation and joy... and I was able to move cardboard..which requires a great deal of effort just to move by blowing on it. Again.. I have nothing terribly valueable in that area yet, but I have some insights on it...

I can also talk about my experiences and perception of dreams and lucid dreams or astral projections (out of body experiences)... Theres a lot to cover, so its a matter of working up the "motivation" to do so.

I don't know, shit.. i'll get to it one of these days. ;).. Lets hope for tommorow..

Thanks for reading, I'll make a sincere effort to explain my view points and I hope it will come across in a clear way that you can think about it, and hopefully it may inspire you to push that boundaries of your perception as well. ;) Afterall.. my own is my own.. in no ways do i declare it to be THE truth... you must find your own answers... even if you ask another person.. its just another way of asking yourself because you must still analyse the given information and decide what value or personal truth it holds.

Anyways, its late, and i'm done for now.

[mojo]

Dude, i'm about the most unfit i've been for 15 years and i haven't had a cold for 3 years, doesn't mean much in the scheme of things. :) Except that natural hallucinogens are good for colds. Haha.

Having said that i do believe that we, as human beings, have much untapped potential within our psyche/nervous system. I do believe there is evidence for pre-cognition and telekinesis, i have experienced this on a small scale myself.

I look forward to your posts regarding this.

cheers mojo.

[cavemanDD]

Dude, i'm about the most unfit i've been for 15 years and i haven't had a cold for 3 years, doesn't mean much in the scheme of things. :) Except that natural hallucinogens are good for colds. Haha.

Having said that i do believe that we, as human beings, have much untapped potential within our psyche/nervous system. I do believe there is evidence for pre-cognition and telekinesis, i have experienced this on a small scale myself.

I look forward to your posts regarding this.

cheers mojo.

lol yeah.. but I just find it particularly interesting considering my consistent record of colds... and also considering I live in I think.. the dirtiest city in the country or something.. #3 maybe... I heard it somewhere.. and the fact that I work outside in all kinds of weather, never dressed for it either. Ha. I know I do have the ability to make a headache go away in like a minute..but I have no way to show that to anyone do i? heheh.. thats ok.. because I do it for myself, the reason I share my experiences with others is purely to guide or inspire. Its a path we travel personally..but not necessarily alone. I think we hold all the blueprints to how everything in our body functions... and that is actually really such a minor background process that we aren't concious of it. That being said I think we have the ability to heal or direct our body in any way we desire. Its like in Qi-gong where they teach to you move your blood with your thoughts... or how you can control your pulse in anyway you desire. I don't know if anyone watched that brief show phenomenon that was on? It looked like american idol but it was for psychic abilities haha.. I just like that they were presenting such content in a manner such as that.. to get it out there... Anyways... I laughed when the one guy dropped his pulse to like zero and everyone was scared as shit.. it was pretty cool.

Thanks for your post mojo ;) ... haha good job on staying healthy

[cavemanDD]

INTRODUCTION THING.. 8)

Alright.. so I'm gunna give this a go while i have the motivation! It's a god damn lot to explain and also wrap my mind around just trying to explain so thats why theres the delay. Again what I'm about to express...are MY beliefs..not necessarily "THE" belief... although very much of what I have to say... (if not all)..I think is pretty commonly shared among many people... I guess it just seems to resonate as a truth to these people.

Ok.. for starters... what is spirituality? I think to put it simply.. The continueous search for personal truth... Expansion of conciousness or awareness as they say... The idea of looking for answers which are already there... whether it be.. curiosity or ones desire to end suffering. I think we all are created inherintly curious.. we just can't help but wonder about our existence. I, myself have for most of life assumed there was no way I could ever figure it out...that I wouldn't know where to start anyway.. and that it was a waste of energy to even try to figure it out... But still I always thought there was something there... but even then still... As a kid I was bit of an asshole.. at least that was my sense of humour.. I always remained opened minded but I still ridiculed subjects such as magic..witchcraft..yoga... etc. I think someone even told me that the city I lived in itself had a spirit and I was like "yeah ok whatever.." You get the picture... I'm trying to say I used to be on the other side and now I'm so far on this one. I think society plays a lot in our acceptance of things... particularly family.. I'm starting to really see the depths of that. It's so easy for our oppinions to be affected by others... even through simple jokes.

I'll skip the part that actually led me onto this path, because its just simply..what it took to convince to me search for the bigger picture.. and that everyone has different events leading to this... perhaps a simple search on...aliens perhaps may have led you to a messageboard and it took off from there. :P

Ok so before I will even get into how I think certain "psychic..MAGIC POWERS" ( i see everyone grinning holding a strong skepticism heheh, understandable) are possible, and within everyones reach.. I'd have to start from the begginning. Hopefully this will make sense to you.. I tend to try not to talk flowery and poetic and more down to earth.
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OK HERE WE GO..

Lets start with disecting an object.. even using our "science" ;).. as a method.. as I do believe they do a good job when they keep an open mind..but they get so stuck in procedure and logic. Actually let me just get this out first... we fall back on science wayy too much I think. I do not think there is 100% proof or evidence of anything and rather its conditional to the individual, and in that regard.. I think believing something just because a scientist said so..is no different then believing something because a catholic priest said so.. :) .. 2 different people would say they are both equally qualified, ha ;) .. I love science but I think we need to look at this way... through a series of processes/ tests it shows us with a reasonable amount of facts (again reasonable being subjective to the individual here)... that something is possible or probable... like... through tests we know steel is really hard.. and that we can build structures with it, and its unlikely that it will fall down...or rather.. we understand that there is perhaps a low enough risk to trust it. Again.. i think thats what it comes down to.. how much trust we put into it... and somewhere around that concept.. be it ego or ignorance we decide to stay as an ABSOLUTE.. that THAT is the way it is, and thats all there is to know and any other theory is laughable if we cannot concieve of a way to test it. Its dangerous. I think we only hinder ourselves... and that technology is relevant to a cultures..acceptance..patience, co-operation etc. New theories are being proposed every day and its interesting how close science is getting to what was once thought to be purely imaginative and spiritual concepts.

Ok a little off track there... with the above in mind.. lets break down an object of "matter"... Pick any object you see around you, even a skin cell or something from your body. I'm gunna pick this coffee mug. I know its solid enough to hold a liquid..my hand cannot move through it.. its opaque.. and with enough force it can break... whatever right.. its a coffee mug.. theres nothing to think about, right? Ok well lets take the scientific approach... the coffee mug is made of these molecules right.. which give it characteristics, but the molecules are made of atoms, which have electrons.. and protons supposably..neutrons etc.. which give it it's weight or something... and that these particles are made of SUB-ATOMIC PARTICLES and it goes on and on. But where does it end.. perhaps it doesn't? And what.. science theorises that everything is affected by these 4 universal forces such as gravity, electro-magnetism, strong nuclear force and weak nuclear... I think that just scratches the surface. But ok so lets take a look at what we see here... an incredible intelligent pattern of information that seems almost immeasurable at the moment. Perceptually small things that make up slightly bigger things and so on and so on and to us.. we just see them as..household objects or simpe plants or something, which i think doesn't do justice to the amount of intelligent information there. I find "string theory" quite interesting because it relates to a widely believed spiritual theory, that the reality we percieve is essentially energy and vibration. (and thought... ;) ) As matter.. as we are led to understand.. is made of these particles and such and that their code is what basically gives it its "laws" of its nature... like density and function.. solid..liquid..gas.... And that maybe I couldn't walk through a wall... but what if I diss-assembled all the matter into particles..walked through and re-assembled it? Our science believes that energy cannot be destroyed either.. just transformed or manipulated.. This makes sense to me.. as you could burn something the parcticles seperate, but they are still there.. But.. again.. I am careful not to accept any absolute answers. But with this in mind... and that our body or some other subliminal being we may not be aware of it, is made of..or at least utilizes this energy.. and we know we have at least SOME control over its function... well... how far does it go? Perhaps we are only limited to the limit of our imagination? I think this starts to explain the possibility of "psychic powers".. really I see them as no different than..walking.. Considering you are suppsably made of this assortment of particles, well its pretty interesting how you are able to move it around. But I will get into that later.. along with "evolution" and growth / movement in general.

Ok i'm starting to get bombarded with information here.. i'm just trying to think of how to explain it. Basically.. I wanted to point out the genius that is our reality.. and everything really is amazing. Alright.. before I get into the "thought" factor.. I'm going to make a comparison or assessment of the universe to computers here.

It is my belief.. that there is a consisent duality in the reality we percieve...that can basically be broken down to yes or no.. To be or Not to be... 1.. or 0.. Yin or Yang... electrons...protons.. magnetic poles etc.. Like for example.. to understand what its like to EXIST.. we would need a deffinition or idea of what its like NOT TO EXIST.. or something like that... How can I explain this... like how can we really appreciate the value of YES... if there isn't a NO..??

Ok so lets compare this to vibration / frequecny.. which looks something like this /\/\/\/\/\/ ... like a soundwave you know? Or a heartbeat.. and perhaps the upper points represent YES... and the lower represents NO.. And that really it can be summed up as a straight verticle line or rather a single immeasurable point, but we expand it to percieve it and experience it. Alright... but lets take a more "logical" computer-like approach... as I think the world we percieve is just the universe trying to.. explain itself.. or its a construct from the great mind.

You look at todays computer games with the best sound, the best graphics, the best Artificial Intelligence.. and its pretty impressive.. now guess how realistic games could be in like...100 years.. Maybe we wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the game and reality... but maybe they are both equally the same?

Your high-tech computer games, when you break them down.. is a series of 1's and 0's... that your computer at its base runs on binary.... off and on... and I guess these patterns when assembled in a certain matter, produce certain results.. So if we could create this world that seems so realistic with a pattern of 1s and 0's.... i wonder... does it apply to.. the "real world" ?? And so our mind begins to spin.. :P

I've done a bit of programming myself and I'll state a few comparisons which are quite curious when applied to reality... Say theres a character named.. steve... hes an object in the code.. and he has variables that define his function... well lets say theres a variable: Stevehealth... and it equals 100 or something... means steve is healthy.. the way the program defines anyway... Well lets say... we wanted to kill steve...remove him... we'll say.. if stevehealth = 0 then stevevisible = false... steve dissapears... but heres the thing... his variables are still there...we could easily say..stevehealth = 1 million if we wanted to.. if the program called for it. So in this programming sense... if something exists...perhaps it cannot really UNexist?? Perhaps the void is illusional just like the program.. and that even if we were to DIE...and go "lights off"... our variables are still there and therefore can be given new values at any time. So... shit man.. in some aspect does that mean we are somewhat..immortal?.. I mean.. who knows how we might change.. but then again.. what does it really mean to exist? Is it that our programmer defines that? Perhaps...maybe we're the programmer experiencing the code? I find it also interesting that in a program...we'll say we created this artificial object named steve..with his variables... that.. his variables can be accessed from another object named john or something... and if we wanted to.. (if we were the programmer).. we could code it that john could define every aspect of steve's existence!.. but it also works vice versa... i think this begins to show, that if the universe was a code like this... then we are all inter-linked.. and of the same code.. the same source.. Perhaps we are the CODE..and the PROGRAMMER... and perhaps.. this is what GOD is..Not necessarily a single being but the combined being as a whole... which acts to serve the best interest of the whole... whatever that may be... Expansion..exploration of INFINITE variables? Trying to figure something big out I guess? lol.. or is just acting in according to its SELF DEFINED nature?

I think everything we percieve could very well have a unique mathematical pattern. Just like Pi.. and the Golden Mean.. or Ratio... these patterns that exist in.. EVERYTHING.. like the spiral of a galaxy or ripples in the water. Also.. I don't know if you notice.. but yeah..video games look pretty real these days but do you remember their shittier days? Things may look rather smooth and crisp now because we have the cpu power to do so.. but when you break it down.. all these 3d objects are made of triangles!!... perhaps our reality is as such? But perhaps the shapes go continuously larger and smaller.. I think you can actually get the spiral.. or golden mean by the way right angle triangles are aranged.. I don't know, look it up. ;) But it seems consistent that math is this.. universal language everything understands... percievably.. to me at least.

Ok well take this concept..think of the universe as math and code and think about how astrology might work. If the position of venus or something interjunction with this or that can sum up.. pretty damn well if you ask me..what kind of person I am.. (try a birthchart.. mine has stunning accuracy... but keep in mind.. I think it says what type of person you were when you were BORN... people change).. Ok so with this in mind.. with this astrology.... DAMN.. it seems like.. I affect planetary bodies of the universe!.. or they affect me.. At either rate we are inter-connected.. Such as.. I radiate energy or light...which bounces off or interacts with the planets energy etc.. Or perhaps its something greater connecting us.. a divine intelligent CODE or something. Thought perhaps?

Lets talk more about energy and nature...you hear all these psychics and such talk about "Light and Love"...ok well what is Light? Light is an energy... the colours we percieve have a unique wavelength as illustrated by our "electromagnetic spectrum"... Its funny how we associate what we see as being..generally what we think our reality is.. when really we know theres radio waves...gamma rays...infra-fred and microwaves and pretty much any percievable frequency of energy "dancing around".. and that we are SEEMINGLY limited to seeing this narrowband of energy.. or experiencing it.. perhaps because its all we would be able to handle at the moment.. and perhaps thats where evolution comes in.. You know... like ghosts... we think they aren't real because we don't see them.. well if they are this..assortment of energy..perhaps they are of a different frequency? And perhaps...being psychic in THIS sense.. is ones ability to percieve a wider band of frequency. Ok so light is another word for energy or a form of it.. I guess we could talk about the difference between positive and negative right? But lets keep talking about energy for a second.. and "love"...

We think about our existence as humans.. we eat plants..and animals to gain ENERGY.. so we can MOVE.. well..those plants get their energy from light.. the sun etc..They basically take the energy thats there and transform it into something we need... like organising energy into...DNA... :)...And we need to absorb these patterns of light/energy/DNA... its this certain energy compatability that has been programmed into our being.... And when our "physical" body dies.. our patterns become energy for something else.. Its the cycle.. and I think what really matters, is what happens between that.. The understanding.. the learning..the BEING..

Ok lets talk about love... we'll start with its most simple, superficial, concept. .. If you have a boyfreind..girlfreind..husband..wife...think about WHYYYY..you love them.. Think hard about it.. What attracts you to them.. why do you feel you NEEED them..? I think to put it simply.. it is a constructive relationship.. we have this need to be productive... to be happy..because "positive" feelings represent the positive side of existence. We have this need to create in some form... to LEARN.. to move forward.. and be happy.. and being with that person we can accomplish certain goals, feel certain feelings we want and feel..COMPLETE.. EFFICIENT.. Like that person is the missing piece to the machine which you are. They exchange ENERGY with you..and help organise it into these patterns to calculate some sort of outcome you desire... EDIT: I'd like to add that.. the pattern of their being is within a compatible nature of your own...Some people are just too different.. but if they had the knowledge or the energy or what not.. then perhaps they could make it work. I see freindships as the same... i mean.. my freinds are exactly the astrological configuration that I'm supposed to get along with, you know? All the people I am very attracted to are born within a certain period of the year. Again... compatible energy signatures... and maybe we seek these people/these connections out because we don't realise we have that outside potential within ourselves.

I think the duality of the universe can be summed up as Love and Fear...

Love = production..growth..creation.. positive emotions... knowledge
while Fear = counter-production or destruction..ignorance, hesitation and selfishness, the need to preserve ones being which often leads to negative things for everyone, everthing else because there is a lack of knowledge there.

You observe nature and it seems it has this desire to create..grow..love... But not without its balance..of course. I think in the universe a balance of yin and yang.. positive and negative must be present.

(I'm starting to lose mental capacity here.. I might be losing clarity but I wish to get this all out!, ha)

Actually I'm going to post something I wrote a while ago, it was on my blog.. the following is in regards to "WHAT IS SPIRIT?" The idea of spirit being..EVERYTHING.. the universe... GOD...


This is another message board post, of my interpretation of his statement, after meditating this is the conclusion I've arrived at. No doubt it will change in the future, as the post below would illustrate.,

light = knowledge = entirety of spirit = eternity

We are fragments of light.. fragments of spirit.. we shine (resonate) ourselves upon each other, the more we resonate..the stronger the connection with spirit, and the stronger the bond we make with each other (each other being other fragments of spirit).. I was trying to think why spirit strives to learn the nature of its being, its origins, purpose etc...Spirit is boundless and ever-expansive. The closer we take the truth, the closer we get to pure spirit..which I think just may be infinitely pure and simplified.. just as it moves out and gets infinitely complicated.. By raising our connection with spirit, we push its borders of simplified purity, we move it forward, in perception.. (this is still something I'm working with, I meditated on it and I think its best if I try writing it). By strengthening our connection with spirit, everything..we act as a generator..amplifying spirit in its entirety. Spirit is boundless, it must expand, and that is what we are doing, expanding it. Its like... PURE SPIRIT..is trying to fill a box.. but to do that it disperses fragments of itself, complicated spirit/light..which will then eventually become purer spirit.. its like spirit in its nature... is to expand, and be more then it is, trying to fill a box that cannot be filled, for it is eternity. Spirit is so vast it seems incalculable. But it is formless...so.. it never really expanded in the first place.. but rather maybe the expansion is a perception, into understanding how it came to be. In that respect.. I think maybe the illusion will dissapear the closer we get to pure spirit...which may be impossible, for it must exist in a state of infinte purity/simplication and infinite complication. I don't know what else to really say in that respect except spirit just "IS"..

We branch off, connecting to one another..helping each other grow as we grow..purify as we purify.. strengthening our bonds.... thus.. resonating purity..spirit... or spirit that resonates, binds spirit. To end resonation.. or to be without vibration is to not BE.. for it is complete and total seperation of spirit and so it does not exist. Exist = to be part of spirit.



white light = pure concentrated spirit, when we see things in colour, we are experiences the different frequencies of spirit, by pulling them apart and understanding them. Its like a prism.. how white light goes in and disperses outwards as different colours. You could say..the prism represents perception? I'm still going over it in my head but i'm starting to see the truth in the prism.

In essence, pure white light, pure spirit, goes through the archetictual prism our of mind as means to disperse it, to examine it. As well.. the prism disperses all other frequencies of spirit, not just colour of course.

Spirit distributed by prism..triangles = the most simplified shape..3 dimensions.. so maybe 3 dimensional space... is infact spirit distributed like a prism... i dunno, you know what i'm getting at.. these thoughts are still brewing, they are not yet mature..

it comes down to sacred geometry.. Spirit distributed by a PRECISE pattern. Perhaps to understand spirit.. is to backtrack everything we experience through sacred geometry and see where it leads us...back to spirit.

Since spirit is all, and the opposite is nothingness, .. It seems..as long as we live.. as long as we are a part of spirit..wherever we are in time/space and spirit..it seems... we will ultimately try and progressively move closer to spirit.. is this why productivity, light seems like THE WAY? Do we only move forward, but at any time we can shoot back and move forward again?

We are parts of SPIRIT... and we actively strengthen our connection with spirit, to move the other way would be to fade into a void..would it not? we'd resonate less and less and less until we don't resonate at all "nothingness".. but is it even possible to make it that far? Plunged into complete darkness? Things can be dissolved back into spirit.. back into existance.. I'm just going over in my head what the anti-spirit would be like..but spirit is everything! anti-spirit would have no characteristics, no perception because it is NOTHING.. it is devoid of perception, and it is nothing to percieve.

SPIRIT is all, and ........none is just none ?

The mere fact that we exist.. seems like we could never by any means un-exist.. i always believed this.. but now i'm starting to understand it more... and in that respect... we could percieve spirit on infinite levels...complicated or purified and perhaps we can travel the road to see how complicated we can get.. or like the path most of us are on now.. to see how purified and simple we can get. And I'm trying to think of the meaning of it all.. and I realise.. the mere fact that I am here learning, talking to anyone at all.. is moving spirit forward, like you know what I mean? The other direction would be to sever all communication from people, and disregard all knowledge..all spirit and be consumed by complication. You could look at 3/4th dimensional physics as an example of complications of spirit, for as we move closer to spirit, those physics seem to fade.

Right now, by my actions I am moving forward..towards pure spirit... action in itself is to move forward.. to move backwords would be to un-act? How do you traverse a seemingly one-way road backwards? FEAR / IGNORANCE I assume..

As it stands, this bit of spirit i'm being fed is complicated . It hasn't yet had a chance to move much closer to purity.. these are random thoughts.. random messages of spirit, which have entered my perception, and that I am rambling about... OR.... rather.. its my way of shining.. I am sharing information, sharing knowledge, distrubiting spirit or something like that.

To learn is to acquire knowledge, and knowledge is light, and light is a perception of spirit.. so as long as I or anyone, or any other piece of fragment learns.. we will move closer to purified spirit. And if we are spirit learning. we are spirit percieving itself.. we are spirit in motion. So in that respect.. spirit is frequency.. it is vibration.. To be without vibration/movement is it not exist, not exist of spirit.

SPIRIT = everything.. everything being the entirety of spirit, the entirety of itself.

And spirit = motion = life... If it moves, it is spirit!

But what is movement? I think movement.. simplified... movement is the means to gather information.. learning.. umm... MOVEMENT = SPIRIT.. its one in the same man..

Ok well my oppinion has more or less stayed the same as that.. maybe I should have worded things a bit differently..

This is so mind-boggling I may have gotten the information scrambled.

Basically.. I think I got my point across.. I think we are part of.. if not this all encompassing though that has created this reality to percieve itself through certain vantage points... Back to the programmer and the code concept...
And that you and me.. the birds and the trees..and subatomic particles of whatever nature are all inter-connected and related... and that the limitations or seperation is only an illusion just like the program itself.. and we can expand our being.. as is our nature to do... finding the truth within ourselves.. of our true nature.. And in this respect.. I think ANYTHING.... ANYTHING at ALL... is possible if it can be imagined through the thought process... its just that.. in this state of being.. this density.. it requires more energy.. and it is much more difficult.. These bodies we have are vessels for thought and we can manipulate our reality the same way we control our body... I believe our bodies are forms of energy..intelligent and near perfect... and our brain is merely the control center... it is this..centralised means for us to control our body.. and that our brain is merely a radio reciever for thought... thought which the universe as a whole shares...but which we experience a small fragment of that we believe to be our individuality... THAT.. and with the energy..chakra..meridian system linked to physical body parts... that perhaps the body is this form of this pre-existing energy pattern and this is just the way we choose to percieve ourself at the moment.

Perhaps we exist in multiple layers...infinite layers.. whatever the universe calls for at the moment.. as we encompass everything. Perhaps when we dream we enter different layers of perception... different realities..different beings with different frequencies... which could be the reason why its so hard to remember... its information we are currently unable to process... but through learning..and meditation and such.. it becomes easier..we grow.. we expand our awareness and dimensions of our being.... much like evolution.... a group of fish could posess a group thought..or group conciousness which gives them their perfect syncronus swimming pattern...the same with birds... they move..like magic..like one being.... Well what if the fish group thinks about its habitat...and thinks now and then how changing their colour to red would increase their survival chances... and then it happens... through telekinesis/ thought manifestation... taking X amount of time relative to energy / motivation / desire put into the thought...and TIME.. which is also perceptual and relative to the way we percieve our reality.. and that..If these the fish can evolve from a desire to GROW..or become something greater... perhaps we as humans can... or energy patterns that take the form of a human vessel... which could explain why some are born more psychic then others.... Perhaps someone had a life living in the woods... constantly listening.. using intutition to sense for danger that they eventually..EVOLVED... What if they evolved to such a point where they realised their greater connection to thier surroundings... and thus learned to love and co-exist with it harmony.. as to hurt or hinder it would only hinder oneself!.. and that perhaps its this love..or high frequency thought process which speeds up or allows evolution? ( Have you ever been half-asleep and gotten wierd messages in your head?... well your brain is in theta frequency.. its got a higher frequency then BETA / waking life)... so what if we were to evolve to the point where our normal thought frequency was around THETA rather then BETA? ..or even higher? Maybe we could pick up these said messages all the time? Supposadly.. (science talking here)... Fear/Hate as a longer frequency.. and perhaps this goes to demonstrate why it is a hindering force? If the frequency of matter or something started to get lower.. it might... fall apart? Just.. you start making the connections like temperature is relative to the speed of energy and that experiencing temperature is means to percieve the speed of energy... same with the rest of our senses.

The big picture I think i'm trying to paint here is.. I think we have it in us to do ANYTHING and EVERTHING imaginable and all it takes is a change in our thought patterns.. And wouldnt you know.. I'm starting to pick up these "messages"... that come as just thoughts to me... learn to move things with my mind... remember dreams.. astral project... and whole pile of mind blowing things and I think the under-lying consistancy here is... Compared to say.. 3 years ago... I have a LOT..more love for everyone and everything... I see beauty in all, intelligence and I work to rid myself of personal problems that I put onto others.. And this is why I spend the time and energy to write this out for all of you.. I am mentally exausted.. but its the love that drives me... hoping it will help you grow in someway... and in the process.. it helps my own growth..healing.. etc.. For you see.. I don't think you need to be selfish to get what you want.. I think being selfless is much more effective. You start to really believe that you can shape your reality in any which way you want..

And one last thing about energy.. someone said that thought creates energy.. I am inclined to feel this way kind of when put in this perspective.. i've tried a variety of meditation techniques and they all differ from each other.. but I think the underlying thing here is the INTENT..to have energy..to move the energy.. I did a meditation to absorb energy..using my own method... I found..just as they said... its linked to Joy and confidence.. and that perhaps... the feeling of joy..confidence...motivation...energy is the experience of efficiency.. its the feeling of how we percieve it.
I found after being full of this joy..this self-confidence and motivation... well... lets say theres was some interesting advancements in my telekinetic experiments!... and really..just to throw this in here.. I don't think telekinesis is limited to movment..I think its the same as power of attraction but more immediate... it is THOUGHT MANIFESTATION..putting the energy into a though to get what you desire... In that respect.. I think it could ...move a car with telekinesis..you could probably create a small object instaneously... just my theory.... I mean think about your dreams.. and think of them as just being a reality with less limitation...lense density and things require less energy.. :) ...
So in regards to that.. I think it really comes down to THOUGHT.. as being the main factor here.. that defines how we percieve our existence...THOUGHT.. and its intent.. its frequency...

Ok I think thats enough for now.. I'm sure I left some big gaps there..but you know what... this is just how I percieve MY reality in the moment.. You have your own to percieve!... afterall..even if we are of the same source.. I think we experience existence through different vantage points.. I hope this made some sense to you.. and I hope you managed to get through it.

Theres still much I could go over such as dimensions... time... etc.. factors of percieving our reality... More of the link between physical existence and dreams.. and more on this other "phenomena"

Its love, its growth, its nature.. its evolution.... ;)

Its the continious search for truth and redefining that truth... that to me is spirituality.. I would love to elaborate more on everything but I think I posted more then enough.. My third eye and crown is spinning rapidly haha..

If the top of your head feels like its burning or tingling.. or like its got needles in it.. Its a GOOD thing.. They say its the connection to spirit... enlightenment.. Again...totally up to your perception.

If you have any questions, if you actually read this at all.. feel free to ask, i'd be glad to try my best to answer them through my oppinion...

Thank you, and I love ya all. :P

- Steve.

[cavemanDD]

Ok one last thing I meant to include about energy that I forgot..

The comparrison of energy being created with thought.. and that the energy is experienced as joy..motivation..confidence.. etc..

If you have no confidence.. you might feel lazy.. or un-motivated... partciularly to try new things... Think about it like electricity... even if we have no confidence.. we can still perform simple tasks we are used to... because we are good at it.. we know how to use the energy so its an acceptable use of energy... But difficult things require more energy because there is more resistance... it is unexplored territory and we burn up more energry trying to accomplish it.... Thus our lack of confidence / motivation... our lazyness is like an internal control mechanism of our being to preserve energy... its a way of saying... Dude..you don't have enough to waste on difficult things.. stick with what you're good at.

And then.. this confidence.. this motivation is something we can create within ourselves.. within the mind.. and it suddenly gives us..JOY!... and this ability and DESIRE.. to do like.. EVERYTHING... we can take on difficult tasks.

I was told confidence would be the key to my success in life, and i'm starting to see what that lady meant.... There is so much I want to accomplish... but I need an incredible amount of energy to do so. I've recently learned to find this confidence, this energy... AND this balance within me.. and it has changed me forever..in such ways that I almost don't feel like me anymore... but replaced with a BETTER me... the one I always wanted to be... it was a strange transition.. I didn't know I had in me.

You have the ability to be whatever you wanna be, to do whatever you wanna do... it is within you! It its limited to your imagination and your energy...your desire... Think of it this way... we can love someone for instance... but HOW much...? How much do we wanna love them? I think energy / desire is that factor... Again... how MUCH do you wanna evolve/ grow?

Perhaps if we were able to love (theres that high frequency again).. in such ways we could not even imagine... and posessed so much motivation... then its percieavable to me at least... that some..other-worldly being could come down here and do things which would leave us speechless. (If there was a jesus.. or any other "god" we see in these religious texts)... perhaps they had so much god damn love and desire/energy that it made such things possible.. I for one think this planet could indeed be a project by a higher awareness, and that these gods could have been spiritualty evolved space beings. But even with all this energy... they would still consider themselves equal to us "lessers"... because we are all the same man. I think we held them up as "gods".. we did that ourselves..out of ignorance.. Shit.. this is where I'm going to lose you.. but I swear I had two dreams where i was on earth like 10 000 years ago and I had light comming out of my hands and i teleported 2 people with my thoughts...and my mind was blank yet I feel like I knew everthing..and I was just full of goodness... It was something else... I remember the second dream I asked the 3 guys to basically drain my energy or knowledge so I could learn on earth because I was tired of doing what I do...

Just to throw that in there... Whats even crazier is the description in my dreams are very similar to what other people have been saying.. and edgar cayces description of altantis I think someone told me.
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Ahh anyway, thats just my belief (at the moment of course)... but mainly.. i wanted to convey the power behind motivation, which is entirely within our control!

[cavemanDD]

Meditation is a powerful tool to remove distracting and unwanted thought processes or stimuli of our reality to leave us with what we want.. The ability to efficiently probe a thought..... we can clear our mind temporarily..which permanantly helps as well... and we can explore concepts on a deeper level.. or try some techniques.

You would be suprised of what sitting quietly and clearing your mind for 15 minutes a day can do in the long run.. but that scratches the surface of the effectiveness of meditation I believe.

If you want to solve your problems or get to know yourself.. pick a topic of which you have uncertainty...sit down.. or lie down... clear your mind (use whatever meditation techniques you choose... or your own.. its YOUR experience)..whatever... just get yourself FOCUSSED.. and explore the topic and see where it takes you..

Personally I like to meditate in my room the most.. with ambient music.. I find it helps bring me into a certain harmony..

I forgot to include that in my original post too... about the universal mathematics... i believe music is very mathematical and has a somewhat alchemical response... its a pattern organised which can produce mutliple results when we are exposed to it. I believe it can make us angry... or happy... or scrambled.. Next time you listen to music, see how you interpret it, and analyse your behaviour/attitude/feelings before, during and after it.

Myself I used to like the angry music.. ;)... now I'm like ahh.. well thats not nice.. i don't agree.. thats a short-sighted oppinion etc.. lol... I love heavy metal.. I just make sure I take only the positive out of it. :)


I don't know if anyone read that thread on that "FORUM" lol... about the 432 pitch being the correct and harmonious one.. and that our standard of 440 scrambles us? Again... what do THEY know? Does music really effect us in such a manner that a slight change could alter things? Personally.. I believe so.. Music is vibrational pattern like everything else to me.. it is a powerful tool... and perhaps our ability to appreciate or write music says something BIGGER about who we are.. and the intelligent beautiful mind that we all posess.

[cavemanDD]

More about... "universal laws" or code... If we are percieving the code and WE are the programmer... then these laws arent' so set in stone.. and perhaps its a matter of changing our mindset/ eliminating doubt, that we can dissolve these laws in a matter... and perhaps its a powerful group thought keeping these laws in place and that we just really need to get the full understanding as a means to..disregard these laws.

Yin and Yang... Left brain and Right brain.... perhaps imagination leads us to where we wanna get but logic is the only thing keeping us from jumping off a cliff? I think its a necessary for the learning process. Perhaps there are being that know no logic, and vice versa. I think we need to learn to let these forces co-exist... I mean... all our science started with a thought..imagination... I think we just need to let these 2 co-exist rather then..BATTLE..


Ok so I didn't touch on re-incarnation or nothin'

Lets put it this way... If the universe chooses how to percieve itself.. I think you and me (humans) have the same life-force and are in no means superior to say.. a small bird... Perhaps its stages... a graduatory learning process.. or a different type of existence all together... Could you imagine being a tree? Wrap your mind around that one... I hear its a good method to expand conciousness by trying to put your mind in another THING... that your thoughts aren't isolated within you and its a matter of shifting it to an object of attention...

Much can be learned by sitting still and silent, and just thinking or listening...

Anyways... say this thought exists everywhere, and its experiencing itself through my vantage point... I have a physical body... (and other bodies of energy we'll say)... and the physical body dies.. the energy dissolves its pattern... and whats left... the other subtle energy layers of my being and my thought.... and all I have to do is reconstruct a new pattern of energy.. a new vessel... given astrology and the synchronicity of the universe... perhaps this new vessel is just where and when you need/want it to be. I believe we incarnate in exactly the surroundings we need to experience to further growth.. including some of the same people if the cause for learning or comfort is still there.

I'd like to add this also... do you think by the end of your life.. you will be a worse person... or a better person? More ignorant... or wiser? I think this growth is almost innevitable.. and that.. when put into a perspective or re-incarnation.. and the knowledge gained in various life times.. some of us could essentially be born naturally... wiser?

I do not feel anger for ignorant people... I just think they need to learn, and I try my best to help... I recall past lives through dreams (believe me or not).. and I recall being very ignorant.. it was interesting.. I was like a bronze age soldier or something.

So I think we are part of this graduatory system.. we progress when we are ready to... Even our past life memories are there but they are saved in our unconcious memory... but our configuration is changed and thus... we change as people even if we do not remember changing... These memories CAN be unlocked though I believe... I have a freind that when she used to get in fights.. she'd just like blank out and start doing like Ninjutsu.. she is also "psychic"... Its like that guy (dont know his name).. where he studied like the 100th monkey effect... That monkeys are born knowing how to do things other monkeys have done before them on like a different island I think... re-incarnation or a group evolutionary knowledge.

I think if we had all these memories and egos / individual life-time personalities... in our mind... we would go into over-load if we weren't fit to handle it... and that we would dwell on the past instead of focussing on THE MOMENT. I dwelled on failure from like 10 years ago and I'm just getting that subconcious thought of it out of my mind, NOW... imagine... 1 million life times?

I think our configuration is there, even if our body is not... which could be just 1 part of an infinite perception of our being.

When I put this into perspective.. I try to learn the best I can.. rid myself of problems and help others as much as I can. I'm trying to evolve.. why? Maybe because this is getting old.. and I need something new.. and just, love and ridding myself of flawed thinking seems to be the way for me. I take great joy in seeing the world unfold in beautiful, loving ways.

And I tell myself.. that whats in the past.. is in the PAST... I have learned.. and I percieve in the MOMENT.. and all that matters to me is what I do NOW.. and to not make the same mistakes I made before and to help others do the same.

I see re-incarnation as not only possible.. but a very constructive learning process.

[cavemanDD]

lol everyones afraid to touch this one.. or read it for that matter!

It's a lot I know, and this is the condensed, un-explanatory version.. ha

[skunk]

That was condensed? Jesus man...Like I told you before, I'm going to need an entire day to respond to this. Glad you made the post though.

Ha we should get menguard, aac, and steve over here :). I tried, but with little success with mr rhodes.

[cavemanDD]

Yeah it would be good if we could get them over here. I wouldnt know how.. that god damn website has censored this website or any other message board for that matter from being posted. I haven't tried u2u's yet though.

It would be good to get some discussion goin though.

[cavemanDD]

A change in personal truth says I:

There is a duality to everything... one person seeks illusions and perception, another holds ignorance and chooses not to percieve.

Who suffers? They both do in my oppinion...

They both desire something, they are relieved when they get it... but then it goes away and they desire again, and because they desire with no end, they both suffer. Love ends suffering. We retreat in ignorance... for we wish to blind ourselves so we can be relieved from the burden of responsibility, to which knowledge is intwined. We also push the limits of perception, hoping that seeing a bigger picture will heal our soul, but in my oppinion, the truth is that both directions are infinite, and thus the suffering moves infinitely outward with it.

So how do we find peace... through the root or the crown? If it is the will to end suffering, to seek healing, then through the heart..?.., the BALANCE... we are set free. All dimensions of our being functioning in perfect unity, with the heart as the center, the balance in it all, for the heart does not discriminate.. it loves the righteous and the sadistically twsited, the all knowing, and the blind. To end suffering, by elimination of desire says buddha? To take as it is, for it is nature... To be at peace with ourselves and the world, to know only love.. Love is beauty, and beauty is harmony and unity.

So is that the truth lies in ones ablitly to love... or ones ability to percieve... or ones ability to non-percieve?

What is it that you seek?

I seek tranquility...harmony with all... Nature is full of life and death, and their beauty comes with their union. Spring can be seen as rebirth...things are re-created anew... summer everything is in good health, and autumn, everything is dieng...and winter.. its a deadland... but are they not all beautiful?

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I had a couple dreams once... of a being who's knowledge knew no bounds... he was one with the stars, but suffer did he.. His decision was made, to be re-born anew, to try and end his suffering, through a journey on earth. Perhaps to find the root to suffering.

I'd like to say that I have aquired a taste of inner peace today.. a love and full balance that has no comparison.. to just BE LOVE... neither comming nor going, just loving. I am in love. A higher frequency do I feel. All is beautiful to me, with or without flaw, of which I see neither, but just BEING love.

Yin and Yang, two sides of the same coin, each with different qualities, but the same aim... healing. Like 2 opposing armies, they can fight endlessly for eternity, trying to stomp out the other, both claiming superiority. One side says... we are the truth..for we hold the knowledge, perception is the key to end suffering, the other side says, NO (emphasis on "no").. "WE are the truth, for your knowledge is burdensome, its responsibility restricts our free will, it causes us to suffer.. so we must forget, so we can ease our pain.

The truth is in the middle, the truth is their interaction. They are seperate from each other yet intwined. They can keep fighting to what end? Is it that one is the catylist to the existence or non-existence to the other? Is it a paradox... back and forth do we go... as a frequency, up and down?

Perhaps we choose to follow the frequency UP..to which it has no end... or down, to which there is no reverse either, perhaps the secret to rest our souls and to be TRUTH, is to just BE. BE the frequency.

Ramblings ramblings ramblings. I hope this made sense. Just as an over-active chakra causes problems, as does an in-active... but in the balance, do we not we not just BE..PEACE...? Tranquiliy are we?

I AM THE CAUSE AND THE EFFECT
I AM NATURE

[cavemanDD]

Not mine, sorry if that was confusing. Buddha may have written it, it was on the page describing the buddha.


Words of Kindness

This is what should be done
Be the one who is skilled in goodness,
And who knows the path of peace:
Let them be able and upright,
Straightforward and gentle in speech.

Humble and not conceited,
Contented and easily satisfied.
Unburned with duties and frugal in their ways.

Peaceful and calm, and wise and skillful,
Not proud and demanding in nature.
Let them not do the slightest thing
That the wise would later reprove.

Wishing: In gladness and in safety,
May all beings be at ease.
Whatever living beings there may be;
Whether they are weak or strong, omitting none,
The great or the mighty, medium, short or small,
The seen and the unseen,
Those living near and far away,
Those born and to-be-born,
May all beings be at ease!

Let none deceive another,
Or despise any being in any state.
Let none through anger or ill-will
Wish harm upon another.

Even as a mother protects with her life,
Her child, her only child,
So with a boundless heart
Should one cherish all living beings:
Radiating kindness over the entire world
Spreading upwards to the skies,
And downwards to the depths;
Outward and unbounded,
Freed from hatred and ill-will.

Whether standing or walking, seated or lying down
Free from drowsiness,
One should sustain this recollection.
This is said to be the sublime abiding.

By not holding to fixed views,
The pure-hearted one, having clarity of vision,
Being freed from all sense desires,
Is not born again into this world.

[cavemanDD]

Buddha's 4 truths of suffering.

1. The Noble Truth of Suffering: There is Suffering - Rebirth, old age, disease, death, sorrow, lamentation, pain, grief and despair, association with objects we dislike, separation from objects we love, not to obtain what one desires cause suffering. There are also many happy hours and pleasure in man's life-time, but according to the law of nature, they are impermanent and these last only for a short time and vanish into nothing. Only sorrow, lamentation, pain, grief and despair are left by them behind.

2. The Noble Truth of The Arising of Suffering: Suffering has an origin - The Threefold Craving leads every being from birth to birth and is accompanied by joy and lust, seeking its gratification here and there, namely: Sensual Craving, Craving for Existence and Craving for Wealth and Power. There are also a sixfold craving, namely the eye craves for forms, the ear craves for sounds, the nose craves for odours, the tongue craves for taste, the body craves for objects, and the mind craves for noun, dreams or illusions. These Cravings and ignorance of the law of nature are the condition of origin of individual suffering.

3. The Noble Truth of the Cessation of Suffering: Suffering Can Cease - The condition of cessation of suffering is the complete fading away and extinction of this three fold craving, forsaking it and giving it up, the liberation and detachment from it. The condition of mind of a person who has been giving up his threefold cravings or this sixfold craving together with ignorance can realize Nirvana (or the Extinction of the Cravings).

4. The Noble Truth of The Path leading to the Cessation of Suffering: There is a Path our of Suffering - It is the 'Noble Eightfold Path' (or the 'Middle Path' because it avoids the two extremes of sensual pleasure and self-mortification), that leads to the Cessation of Suffering.